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United Auto Workers' Talks With GM Intensify Over Profit-Sharing Deal

First Posted: 09/08/11 09:21 AM ET Updated: 11/08/11 05:12 AM ET

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(Bernie Woodall and Deepa Seetharaman) - Contract talks between General Motors Co and the United Auto Workers union have intensified and shifted to consideration of the scope and terms of a profit-sharing deal for some 49,000 workers at the top American automaker, people with knowledge of the talks said.

In a sign of progress, GM Chief Executive Dan Akerson met on Tuesday with UAW President Bob King for over an hour at the union's Detroit headquarters known as Solidarity House, the sources said.

GM Vice Chairman Steve Girsky and UAW Vice President Joe Ashton, who is heading up contract talks with GM, also joined that meeting, which came with just over a week remaining in the current four-year deal with the union on wages and benefits.

GM has emerged as the focus of UAW's negotiating efforts in Detroit although parallel talks have continued with Chrysler Group LLC. Chrysler, now controlled by Fiat Spa, was put through a U.S. government-funded bankruptcy like GM.

Talks on Tuesday between the main bargaining teams at the UAW and GM ran late into the evening and were expected to continue into the evening for the duration of negotiations, one person said.

The sources asked not to be named because the contract talks remain private.

Girsky declined to discuss the status of the automaker's talks with the UAW on Wednesday, telling a meeting with financial analysts in New York that there was "zero upside" to talking about negotiations "given where we are in the labor discussions."

UAW local presidents who represent workers at GM's U.S. plants expect to be summoned in Detroit for a briefing on the terms of a contract settlement within the next week although major issues remain unresolved, three union officials said.

The framework of a GM deal could provide a template for negotiations at Chrysler on the central issue of profit sharing, although key issues remain unresolved, one of the sources said.

Meanwhile, negotiations at Ford Motor Co have made slower progress, two other people close to those talks said.

Ford is the only U.S. automaker to have avoided bankruptcy and is the only one of the Detroit Three that the UAW has the power to strike.

GM and Chrysler workers lost the right to strike when the companies emerged from bankruptcy in 2009.

UAW leaders appear to believe it has a better chance to win quick deals at GM and Chrysler before turning to Ford where talks are complicated by an ongoing grievance over bonuses paid out to white-collar workers.

All three U.S. automakers face an expiration of their current contracts with the UAW on September 14.

TALKS PROGRESSING

GM said talks with the union were progressing.

"We are continuing to talk with the UAW about a variety of issues that are important to our employees and our company," Jordana Strosberg said.

Chrysler spokeswoman Jodi Tinson said, "We're optimistic, but there's still lots of issues to work through."

Ford and the UAW had no immediate comment.

King, who took over leadership of the UAW in 2010, has said he was upbeat about reaching a settlement with the U.S. automakers that would reward workers with bonus-type payments without saddling the companies with a fixed cost that would hurt them compared with Japanese and Korean rivals.

The key question in the talks at GM and Chrysler has been how to structure a profit sharing deal for workers, sources have said. Some formulas under consideration would link worker pay to both profitability and measures of quality, sources said.

GM has also sought ways to offset that additional cost.

One proposal under discussion would allow GM to offer targeted buyouts to skilled trades workers such as electricians and pipe fitters at U.S. plants where it judges that it has a wide surplus of those more costly workers, people involved in the discussions have said.

In addition to a discussion of bonus payments, the UAW has been seeking an agreement that would guarantee increases in base wages over time to newly-hired production workers.

At GM, entry level workers start at about $15 per hour compared with about $28 for veteran workers.

About 5 percent of GM's current production workforce is now at that lower wage level, compared with about 12 percent at Chrysler.

The contract talks are the first between the two sides since the 2009 restructuring of GM and Chrysler in bankruptcies financed by the Obama administration.

The UAW has agreed to submit any unresolved contract differences at GM and Chrysler to binding arbitration, a provision read as ruling out strikes at the two companies.

The UAW authorized a strike at Ford through votes in August at union locals. However, union officials say that step was a routine part of negotiations. King said last week he would view a strike or arbitration at any of the companies as a personal failure.

Labor costs, including wages and benefits, for GM workers average about $56 to $57 per hour, compared with about $58 per hour for Ford and $50 for Chrysler, according to estimates by the Center for Automotive Research.

Toyota Motor Corp (7203.T) labor costs are about $55 per hour at U.S. plants and they are about $50 to $51 per hour for Honda Motor Co (7267.T).

(Reporting by Bernie Woodall and Deepa Seetharaman; editing by Carol Bishopric)

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10:11 AM on 09/12/2011
Its funny how many people forget that Gm, Ford ect employees are taxpayers too......
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Squirdlock
06:51 AM on 09/09/2011
You just got to love these Nissan republicans
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Squirdlock
06:49 AM on 09/09/2011
Corporations or people? Which side are YOU on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKWfnO7fhQM
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Giverny
Truthiness
10:39 PM on 09/08/2011
When the economy was 'tanking' Ford was still doing alright but they told the blue collar force that they were going to have to take some TLO's and some were going to have to take buyouts and others could take a chance with permanent layoff. Then they said we have to drop profit sharing, holiday pays, hourly wages drops so we can stay afloat. They said we're getting rid of 700 white collars. After the concessions, Ford rehired the white collars, reinstated their profit shares, holiday pays and anniversary bonuses and told the blue collars, you ratified the contracts with those concessions in them. But they say the unions are the ones who cause the expense, right? Then the CEO packages expanded, the bonuses got larger and the new hires work for half the wages because they swindled the unions. Ford didn't take a buyout because they were sound, and still are.
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Alex Turnbull
If your not progressing, your regressing
10:57 AM on 09/09/2011
Ford in 2006 mortgaged all of thier holdings and it gave to them 26 billion dollars. It was enough for Ford to weather the storm and market down turn of 2008. With that money they also revised thier vehical lineup and brought to market better disigned and better fuel effecient vehicals. I hope very much that Ford and GM succed with thier business plans going forward. Now Giverny, being truthful, GM is on much firmer ground then Ford because during GM restructuring they were able to dumped much bad debt and it's total short and long term debt is much smaller then Fords. Ford has 95 billion dollars of debt to GM 18 billion.
PS: Both ford and gm houly pension funds are underwater.
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Giverny
Truthiness
01:44 PM on 09/09/2011
Fords pensions have 98.6 cents on a dollar and they do not need to pay it out en masse. They payouts we will there and are payed out at 100% so you are mistaken on this scare tactic.
02:25 PM on 09/08/2011
Obama bailed GM out with taxpayer money BUT Obama made sure GM could keep building factories in communist China! So Obama made sure US workers got the short end of the deal. Now GM is using it's massive investments in China as a weapon against US workers. Thank the Obama administration!
09:37 AM on 09/08/2011
Think the union will bankrupt GM, again?
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LumberjackAR
Leaping from Tree to Tree!
09:43 AM on 09/08/2011
They didn't in the first place. Greed,corporate mismanagement, and a tanking economy did.
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Morgantheaxe
Right is wrong, and left is correct!
02:48 PM on 09/08/2011
Learn Doofus. The unions gave huge concessions to help the company. They are doing it again...hence the "quick deal at gm and chrysler" part of the story. The dispute at Ford is about HUGE bonuses paid out to execs and upper management all while telling the workers to bad so sad we gotta cut more costs. Not fair for the boss to get more hooker and boob job for the mistress money and the workers to get told to take a haircut now is it?
redonthehead
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09:11 AM on 09/08/2011
So to sum up. GM goes bankrupt in 2008. The bondholders essentially got nothing so that the Obama administration could give a great big chunk to the unions. In December 2010 GM does it's IPO @ $33/share and the union cashes out. In early 2011 the union employees get a profit sharing check of $4300. The stock is now worth $22/share.

So the shareholder gets screwed again, losing roughly 1/3 of their investment. The company will pay out what profits it earns to the union employees rather than retain earnings for future growth or to weather the coming economic storm. The government (the taxpayer), who bailed out GM and still owns a huge chunk of stock will continue to lose money.

I wonder if the administration has a hand in this?
09:34 AM on 09/08/2011
the corrupt and illegal bankrupcy that was allowed to happen did screw the bond and shareholders and now the unions want profit sharing we how about GM show an actual profit first, not a paper one and then do some profit sharing with all the Amercian taxpayers that bailed them out.
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Morgantheaxe
Right is wrong, and left is correct!
02:54 PM on 09/08/2011
Bankruptcy is not now nor ever been "illegal."

The unions lost out like everyone else in the bankruptcy. They took pay cuts and good chunk of their pensions.

The company IS making a profit and the union IS working with management hence the part of the story you obviously didnt read about "gm and chrysler making a quick deal."

When there is profit the employee should get a profit sharing check.

NOTHING about what you mentioned has to do with stock price. Market forces beyond company performance are driving stock prices lower virtually across the board.

But hey you don't really want reality you want to put bs political talking points out there so carryoncryassing.