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Obama Avoids 'Green Jobs' Talk, Skirts Political Quagmires

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First Posted: 09/09/11 05:02 PM ET Updated: 11/09/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's jobs speech on Thursday night was infused with the passion that many who campaigned for him in 2008 had been waiting to hear again. Yet despite his combative rhetoric, the president largely avoided the “green jobs” talk formerly at the center of his economic message.

"From an energy policy perspective there was really nothing there, which is a little surprising given the historical focus of the Obama administration on green jobs and given the number of significant provisions that are set to expire at the end of this year," said Tyson Slocum, director of Public Citizen’s Energy Program, in an interview with HuffPost.

Still, the president's zeal won over a number of green advocates, including BlueGreen Alliance's David Foster, who said Obama's call to action could help pass clean energy tax incentives that have been stymied by political bickering.

"His agenda will set the stage for revitalizing our economy and doing the work that America needs done," Foster said in a statement Thursday night. "Now the Congress needs to respond by quickly breaking the logjam on the jobs crisis."

Since House Democrats don't have the numbers to force a vote on the American Jobs Act, Obama's jobs plan may have few avenues for passage or even a vote save through the super committee, HuffPost's Sam Stein reports.

Green advocates note that the 2011 jobs plan is decidedly less committed to green principles than Obama's 2009 economic stimulus plan, which outlined an agenda he said would "finally spark the creation of a clean energy industry that will create hundreds of thousands of jobs over the next few years, manufacturing wind turbines and solar cells, for example -- millions more after that."

"There wasn’t much of a proactive agenda for the type of large-scale weatherization or renewable energy deployment that he talked about doing in his campaign and as part of the stimulus that never really was adopted as part of the stimulus but that his administration was geared towards," said Slocum. "Instead he was talking about advanced bio-fuels and fuel-efficient vehicles and the larger context of making America competitive again. But nothing really specific on energy, which I was a little surprised by."

Flash back to February 2009, when Obama, speaking at the Energy Department, put green jobs at the center of his agenda, citing the latest bad news about jobless claims as a reason for quick action:

WATCH:

While there was no more talk of wind turbines and solar panels on Thursday, the president's $447 billion plan includes new spending on infrastructure, which it pays for by repealing oil and gas company tax incentives and collecting more revenue from big corporations and the highest-earning Americans.

And some greens, shaken last week by the administration's rejection of the Environmental Protection Agency's tougher smog standards, were mollified by the president's promise not to "let the economic crisis be used as an excuse to wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades." He said in the speech:

But what we can’t do -- what I won’t do -- is let this economic crisis be used as an excuse to wipe out the basic protections that Americans have counted on for decades. I reject the idea that we need to ask people to choose between their jobs and their safety. I reject the argument that says for the economy to grow, we have to roll back protections that ban hidden fees by credit card companies, or rules that keep our kids from being exposed to mercury, or laws that prevent the health insurance industry from shortchanging patients. I reject the idea that we have to strip away collective bargaining rights to compete in a global economy. We shouldn’t be in a race to the bottom, where we try to offer the cheapest labor and the worst pollution standards.

Obama also announced a $25 billion effort aimed at modernizing more than 35,000 public schools. “Funds could be used for a range of emergency repair and renovation projects, greening and energy efficiency upgrades, asbestos abatement and removal, and modernization efforts to build new science and computer labs and to upgrade technology in our schools,” says a White House summary of the American Jobs Act.

Obama walked a fine line on Thursday as environmentalists watched for him to give voice to their priorities while Republican critics watched for him to promote what they call the same failed policies.

“He keeps talking about green jobs. Where are they? Let's have real jobs. We can have energy jobs. Let's get that done. And if I'm president, I'm making that happen on Day One," said Mitt Romney during Wednesday night's GOP candidate debate.

The failure of Solyndra Inc., the California solar company that received a $535 million federal loan guarantee from the U.S. government before laying off 1,100 workers and filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, gave the president's critics further ammunition.

The president skirted political quagmires by avoiding talk of "clean energy" -- he didn't use the term once -- and in doing so managed to win over Republican critics while still assuaging green groups' worst fears.

"The proposals the President outlined tonight merit consideration," Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a statement. "We hope he gives serious consideration to our ideas as well."


See the full text of the president's speech and video here
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The lukewarm embrace of the Natural Resources Defense Council's Frances Beinecke seemed to capture green groups' collective sentiment.

“President Obama has presented a real plan to get Americans back to work -- unlike Republican leaders in Congress whose so-called jobs agenda would destroy our environmental and health safeguards," said Beinecke in a statement Thursday night. “We can put Americans back to work and still protect public health. To pretend that we must choose one or another is a false choice that needlessly puts workers and their families at risk. The next step is to build on the president’s plans by fully embracing clean energy jobs."

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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's jobs speech on Thursday night was infused with the passion that many who campaigned for him in 2008 had been waiting to hear again. Yet despite his combative rhe...
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Mafdet 04:57 PM on 09/09/2011
Back when Obama took office and surprised all by announcing that health care reform would be his first priority, my business partner and I said: Uh, small business hasn't had any banking support since Dec 2007 and so we and everyone else we know are about to cut more employees. What about that? And Obama's answer was "Green Jobs." Which we laughed and laughed about because we had jobs to offer right off  Read More...
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rlclark65
Was Lib, then got degree, job & family
12:35 AM on 09/13/2011
Maybe the fact that he put a half billion eggs into the Solyndra green energy basket trying to show how the green energy industry would save our economy and in less than 3 years they go bankrupt and show how little business sense Obama has and how driven he is by ideology. Maybe he could throw another half billion bucks at Solyndra? That is if they can find the CEO, I think he's in Brazil . lololloll
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fiddler3
physicist, musician, parent
12:25 PM on 09/12/2011
'Green jobs' is political kryptonite. Obama learned his lesson finally. His investments in green are rife with bad judgement, political pressuring, and shady characters. Green kills more jobs than it creates. In the tradeoff between eco-friendly and job creation we need to pick the side that creates/preserves jobs. That means we need to keep investing in fossil fuels and their applications.
10:37 AM on 09/12/2011
It is business that makes innovation and application most of the time.

Build a green city in a city such as Las Vegas that would add jobs and more people wanting to visit. Try making Las Vegas a City of advanced technologies and green at the same time. By making it more diverse and perhaps adding a advanced school of technology Las Vegas can redefine it self as a place to live and raise a family.

Green is a great business and can make a City boom and attract people globally what a great place to start it.

Plenty of sun for solar projects and people with creative visions there.

La Vegas needs a solution for water as other States by bringing a big green project and education smart solutions for the future will be discovered.

Green is GREAT for business and Humanity
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jsrl317
Persuade me or prove me wrong, and I will change
09:16 AM on 09/12/2011
I cannot believe they used the words "principles" and "Obama" in the same headline. That ladies and gents is what you call an oxymoron, similar to "military intelligence" or "compassionate conservative".

Fulfilling 27% of his promises tells the tale.
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Always Conservative
Shovel ready was not....
08:11 AM on 09/12/2011
Hearing the Community Organizer in Chief say "pass this bill quickly" is akin to a used car salesman telling you the fine print is of no consequence....
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
08:24 AM on 09/12/2011
Yeah, and according to the news, he said it 18 times. I guess he was aware that people tend to tune him out.
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rlclark65
Was Lib, then got degree, job & family
12:37 AM on 09/13/2011
Yeh, HaHa - Surprised he didn't say "This deal is only good today and it is such a good deal I can't by law offer it to you again if you turn it down today, and if you take it right now I'll throw in this handy dandy apple peeler"
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Always Conservative
Shovel ready was not....
02:23 AM on 09/13/2011
The Bassamatic!!!
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ssnt
Asknotwhatyorcountrycando4uaskwhtucando4yorcountry
07:39 AM on 09/12/2011
He did not want to call attention to the FBI investigation into the company in which he invested and lost a HALF BILLION of OUR MONEY.
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rlclark65
Was Lib, then got degree, job & family
12:38 AM on 09/13/2011
That money wasn't lost, it bought a bunch of tree huger votes. ROFL
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ssnt
Asknotwhatyorcountrycando4uaskwhtucando4yorcountry
08:05 AM on 09/13/2011
LOL, F&F
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ssnt
Asknotwhatyorcountrycando4uaskwhtucando4yorcountry
08:05 AM on 09/13/2011
Also, love your bio. That is what usually happens.
05:52 AM on 09/12/2011
All talk no action.
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gurukalehuru
cwtc7
02:58 AM on 09/12/2011
High speed rail is green. I'm aware that it does need to be powered, but in view of the number of cars it could take off the roads it is definitely a pro-environmental position.

Here's a suggestion, though, for something he could do that would cost the federal government almost no money, save a whole heck of a lot of trees and be popular with everybody except Republicans: Maine Woods National Park.
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Esther21072011
I'm one of the 53% that pays taxes
06:25 AM on 09/12/2011
The only thing it would take cars off the road for is long distance travel - and most people don't do that in a bad economy - and usually they fly anyway. Most cars are used for daily commutes to work and errands etc - especially with the price of gas. High speed rail is just another pet project that is not worth the money.
07:01 AM on 09/13/2011
Airlines can't compete with high-speed rail for routes up to 500 miles long. The airlines had to shut down several routes in Europe because people prefer the train over flying. Want to know Air France's solution to high-speed rail? Start offering high-speed rail service. They figured if you can't beat them, join them.
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
08:29 AM on 09/12/2011
Americans love their cars. High speed rail is an oxymoron when it comes to saving money.
California-
“The state's high-speed rail plan is a zombie -- the walking dead -- still alive but with no real future.
Rising cost estimates and a lack of money for the project make it seem unrealistic. Momentum is building to abandon it and even de-authorize the bond funds voters approved for high-speed rail.
The federal commitment to the project is in doubt, as the LA Times explains here.
The only thing that could change that: a big boost in federal funding for the project. And if that were going to happen, it should have been mentioned by President Obama in his jobs plan speech Thursday night.”

Americans love their cars.
06:55 AM on 09/13/2011
Don't kid yourself - Americans don't "love their cars". We just don't have any other options except to fly which is a miserable experience. Amtrak's routes are very popular here in California and the high-speed rail project is very much alive and well. Construction starts in 2012 on the tracks and stations are already being built.

HSR is more popular now then in 2008 when we voted in favor of Prop 1A authorizing almost $10 Billion in bonds. We're not "de-authorizing" anything. Keep dreaming.
frank1946
Tell the Truth
12:25 AM on 09/12/2011
Green is a BUST ! No $$$ to continue the Subsidies and Direct Gifts !

What a sad commentary on Government Planning.

Wasted Billions on Special Friends ?
01:57 AM on 09/12/2011
When a new industry is born, there is always a shakeout phase as companies rise and fall. Remember Atari? Wang? Commodore? All viable tech companies at one time along with thousands of others.

When the automobile first came out, the Stanley Steamer was the rage. There were hundreds of others of all stripes and sizes. The gasoline powered auto won out.

We're in the early stages with green energy. Costs for solar energy, for example, are dropping fast as research and development proceeds. Just about every week, a new advance is announced. Current projections are for solar power to drop below fossil fuel supplied power around 2015. 

Green energy and related technology are NOT a bust as you claim. Sure, some companies are going to go down just as thousands of computer and software makers came, flourished and went belly up in the early days of the PC revolution. It's called a free market at work.

The Constitution mandates that the U. S. government invest in search and development. It's right there, very plain to see. 

Which companies do or don't make it is not important. What's important is to get off fossil fuels. And that is happening whether you like it or not. It's now inevitable. The only decision we have to make as a nation is whether we want to be a supplier of green energy technology or a customer. 
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
08:40 AM on 09/12/2011
Please. Obam's pet green projects are all going down the tubes along with taxpayer money. High speed rail is about to be abandoned in Califorinia. Americans love their cars. And the battery powered kind? No chance. The president set a goal of 1 million plug-in cars by 2015. He started handing out taxpayer money, announcing a $2.4 billion program in March 2009. Since the government was a majority stakeholder in GM at the time, the Chevy Volt became a model to be emulated. Except nobody wants it. GM only sold 125 Volts in July—and that’s with the government buying some of them.
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fiddler3
physicist, musician, parent
12:35 PM on 09/12/2011
The Constitution does not 'mandate' search and development by the US government. What plain language are you referring to?

Your examples of Atari, Wang, Stanley, etc are all interesting -- and involved very little investment by the federal government. What makes the 'green' revolution different is how much the industry has been warped by federal investment -- usually driven by the wrong motives. Green would be more effective as a potential revolution if the government let the market deal with the disruptive nature of the technology in its usual manner.
10:41 PM on 09/11/2011
The reason the President did not push his "green" agenda as a part of his "jobs" speech is that he has learned how far out the technology is from really having much positive impact on our economy. For example, one of his signature solar energy companies that he invested $500 Million of taxpayer money into three years ago just went into bankruptcy and fired 1100 employees. He also is aware that his energy strategy is coming apart at the seams primarily due to an overzealous EPA and DOE who are crippling the energy businesses in the country and costing thousands of jobs instead of creating badly needed jobs. The EPA's new power to set the level of carbon output by coal fired power plants given to them by a backdoor executive order bypassing Congress is going to eventually decimate the coal industry causing massive layoffs and driving the cost of electricity sky high. States like West Virginia get 92% of their electricity from coal fired power plants using coal mined in West Virginia. Now you know why he did not bring up his alternative energy plans in his jobs speech.
heckmepitus
Truth, justice and the American way
06:25 PM on 09/11/2011
Green is a shame, a tool of the Left.
08:56 PM on 09/11/2011
Tell it to our kids.
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Esther21072011
I'm one of the 53% that pays taxes
11:56 PM on 09/11/2011
Our kids are already smart enough to know it.
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Skunkman
old & decrepit
05:49 PM on 09/11/2011
A lot of blather here from the not-bright right, most of whom would rather see 15 or 20 million of their fellow Americans struggle through another few years of jobless pain rather than give the nod to anything proposed by the White House. Unfortunately, I'm afraid that their heroes in D.C. - Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, McConnell, Kyl, et al. -- will read this nonsense and block the legislation. Frankly, telling countless out-of-work Americans that it's just their tough luck to be jobless during the Obama administration and that they'll just have to wait while the Republicans beat back any solution that might help the President's re-election chances is not policy. It's not even politics. It's sadism.

Mike:
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Esther21072011
I'm one of the 53% that pays taxes
11:58 PM on 09/11/2011
It's reality. Those of us that work hard every day are tired of the never ending spending - it has to stop - and giving people YEARS of handouts of taxpayer money is counter productive - and we simply can not afford it. And before any left wingers say it - no - they did not pay into the system. In all but 2 states the employer pays the full unemployment levee - not employees. And it's based on 26 weeks of benefits - which are long gone.
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babybrut
Living in the Error of Obama
08:49 AM on 09/12/2011
Let Obama show us how he plans to pay for this. First democrats said it wasn't Obama's job to come up with a plan, now suddenly Obama is sending one to the special committee. Go figure. That's the problem with democrats. The have no core belief system. Power and money are all they care about, and will go whichever way the wind blows them. Since Obama instigated the government healthcare takeover, unemployment has averaged 9.4%. See any correlation there? His pet projects in the green community have all failed, including high speed rail and electric cars. Why do you think he isn't talking about it anymore??
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Skunkman
old & decrepit
11:30 AM on 09/12/2011
Ask your right wing pals at FOX. They have the answers you're looking for, babybrut.

Mike
whatushouldvedone
A fighter for Justice...
05:06 PM on 09/11/2011
Frankly,
I wish that every fricken thing this man says is not put under a microscope!
Damn!
If he sneezes and wipes his nose on is shirt it will be relayed as President
came with teary eyes!

Just to make it clear to the writer...
The focus is on emergency needs as in ASAP

Green jobs will do nothing for the people who's homes are water logged!
Green jobs will not help the unempoyed at the pace it needs to be
to counter unemployment numbers...

Sure you don't work for FOX?
annyp
A Canuck, eh!
04:50 PM on 09/11/2011
The President talked about education which is needed for these green jobs. In order to get to the place of alternative energy you need scientists and engineers to develop the ideas and then educate people to operate the high tech manufacturing jobs. There is a lack of educated people at the present time and the more education is cut the worse it is going to get. A company certainly isn't going to manufacture here whie the brain power is in another country. They go to where the brain power is. He is fighting for these jobs but people have made a choice not to listen.
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ColoLibertarian
He can't lead a hungry dog to a bone
05:08 PM on 09/11/2011
What _hogwash.

Do you really think that all those uneducated Chinese workers are better educated than the existing American workforce?
annyp
A Canuck, eh!
05:29 PM on 09/11/2011
Yes.
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SCStoday
Can't seem to locate those jobs promised?
08:25 PM on 09/11/2011
Yes
04:11 PM on 09/11/2011
It's not over. A $852 million loan guarantee just went to to the Genesis Solar Project in California, just after Solyndra went kaput.
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SavageLeto
The Fulcrum
05:36 PM on 09/11/2011
Centralized Solar--- is kind absurd-

Especially when they have to invent whole systems- that naturally hit massive cost over-runs due to so many piggies at the trough...

Heck the powerlines from the windmill farm in Cali was running at 50 billion-- Which is absurdly expensive and wasteful ...

Especially when there are so many naked roof space in this nation... Especially when PV panels are getting cheaper by the second... Especially when so many able bodied people could be put to work manufacturing and installing them...

Especially how finally utilizing the Sun's rays for immediate need- would give us so much needed breathing room.