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Wealthy More Pessimistic About Economy Than Other Americans: Gallup

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First Posted: 09/13/11 05:40 PM ET Updated: 11/13/11 05:12 AM ET

Wealthy Americans are less confident in the U.S. economy than other Americans for the first time since the financial crisis, heightening the risk of a double-dip recession, a Gallup report showed Tuesday.

Eighty percent of upper-Income Americans said in August that the economy is "getting worse," up from 66 percent in July, according to Gallup's Economic Confidence Measure. At the same time, 77 percent of middle- and lower- are concerned the economy is getting worse, up from 71 percent in July, the report showed.

Wealthier Americans grew increasingly concerned in August after they witnessed pundits threaten financial armageddon without a suitable debt deal and an agreement that ultimately fell short of expectations, said Tim Quinlan an economist for Wells Fargo. The debate and the stock market volatility that came along with it as well as a Eurozone that's inching closer to crisis may be weighing on wealthier consumers, adding to concern that they won't spend, Gallup chief economist Dennis Jacobe said in the report.

"This is reminiscent of what happened during the financial crisis: upper-income Americans sharply pulled back on their spending, making the recession worse," Jacobe said in the report. "Upper-income Americans tend to have the disposable income to spend even when other Americans do not. If they reduce their spending going forward, it increases the chances of a double-dip recession."

Wealthy consumers spent an average of $119 dollars a day in August, down from the $128 per day they spent in July, according to a Gallup survey. Still, upper-income Americans are spending more than they did in August of last year.

Upper-income earners tend to have more of their wealth invested in the stock market, meaning the stock market swings in August were likely of particular concern to the wealthy. While high earners watched their wealth erode, their poorer counterparts were probably more worried about their dimming jobs prospects. Job creation stalled last month, according to the Labor Department, while the unemployment rate stayed at 9.1 percent.

Gallup's findings mirror other sentiment gauges. Consumer confidence dropped in August to its lowest level in two years, The Conference Board reported last month. The index, included responses from participants surveyed during the a period of historic stock market volatility, The Associated Press reported. During the same period in early August, falling confidence among those making more than $100,000 dragged down Bloomberg's Consumer Comfort Index.

Though a drop in confidence among upper-income Americans is more troubling than declines in general consumer sentiment, Quinlan said the boost in pessimism doesn't "jive" with "hard data," including a 0.5 percent jump in retail spending in July.

"The fundamentals haven't deteriorated nearly as much as these various levels of sentiment," Quinlan said.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia's manufacturing index -- a gauge of sentiment of purchasing managers in the mid-Atlantic region -- plummeted in August to its lowest level since March 2009. Still, actual manufacturing activity grew during the same month, the Institute for Supply Management reported. Quinlan said this is one of multiple discrepancies that indicates a drop in sentiment among wealthier Americans may not be reason for panic.

The reality that the U.S. economy may continue along at its pace of anemic growth could be hitting small business owners and corporate managers, who tend to be wealthier, contributing to the decline, the Gallup report said. Bill Dunkelberg, chief economist for the National Federation of Independent Businesses -- a small business advocacy group -- echoed the sentiment, saying the the U.S. economic outlook appears bleak deterring businesses from investing.

''Private sector decision makers think longer term and they don’t like what they see,'' Dunkelberg said in a statement released Tuesday with the NFIB's monthly small business survey. ''There is little clarity or certainty. When people are uncertain about the future or fear it, they don’t spend or invest, and they chase after protection—and protection is unlikely to come from the government.”

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Wealthy Americans are less confident in the U.S. economy than other Americans for the first time since the financial crisis, heightening the risk of a double-dip recession, a Gallup report showed Tues...
Wealthy Americans are less confident in the U.S. economy than other Americans for the first time since the financial crisis, heightening the risk of a double-dip recession, a Gallup report showed Tues...
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
12:28 AM on 09/15/2011
The wealthy are worried that they'll run out of people to take advantage of. When that happens they'll only have others like themselves to steal from.
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JackWhistle
09:28 PM on 09/17/2011
No, no, no. They are worried that others like themselves will only have them to steal from. They never worry about their own actions.
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Timma
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08:10 PM on 09/14/2011
1) It fits with the meta story of the wealthy
2) It's strictly political
3) The "not wealthy" have already lost as much as they can.
06:00 PM on 09/14/2011
The earnings for the rich starts from 90k. This is just a living wage in many places. The mode of the distribution would be a more helpful number. That would show whether more people polled for this report are earning around $100K or around $1M.
In the former case it is easy to see how a few hundred people spending $1000 a day would be averaged out by 1 million people spending in tens of dollars a day. And if the people earning around $100K are concentrated in wealthier pockets around the nation, then the cost of living is probably higher. This would justify their reluctance to spend more . It would also explain their pessimism.
Honestly, the rent for a 2 bedroom apartment where I am located runs at about 2k. And I am not optimistic about the future at all.
07:43 PM on 09/14/2011
This person has it right.

This is potentially a very misleading article, as is often the case when the research methodology is not provided or described, because Gallup defined "wealthy" as an income of $90,000 or more. Unfortunately, that is barely middle class in many places, especially if it represents the wages of 2 workers.

Net worth is a much more accurate measure of "wealth" and the Federal Reserve Board research provides very good data on this.
04:35 PM on 09/14/2011
Why would they be so glum? No one has started building guillotines in the square for the bourgeois..... Yet! Never happen in America, only the French have the nads for that! We are completely sheepafied. You work, they profit, just keep sucking it up..
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Timma
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08:11 PM on 09/14/2011
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teachone
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03:07 PM on 09/14/2011
The wealthy are most pessimistic about the economy, as they are the ones who are trying to bring it down, with the help of their little workers they have planted in our government and others in this country who hold all the money, republicans/teaparty/big business/wallstreet, they are all in this together and it is intentional to sabotage President Obama and make him fall, while also creating two social classes in an attempt to overtake our government and dictate to the people of this country! They are not fooling the american public or anyone else worldwide, by playing "stupid and innocent", they are far from either of these things, but instead, quite dishonest, unethical, immoral, greedy, deceiful, powermad and ruthless!!! In Gods time he will bring them all down, " God takes the things created for our harm and turns them around using them for our benefit!!" The sinful, greedy, evil will never win against God, when will they ever learn?
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Nic the wonder puppy
When life throws lemons, throw them back
02:29 PM on 09/14/2011
I maybe only a dog, but if the rich don't start creating jobs, their wealth will dwindle
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02:07 PM on 09/14/2011
Lesson to be learned - If products are not made in America employing Americans, Americans will not be able to buy your product as they will have no income. While the short term gain from moving manufacturing overseas made you wealthy, the long term loss of a market place will make you poor. See, since corporations weren't paying any wages to those foreign workers, an alternative market was not developed. Now since all your wealthy buddies had to keep up with you and did the same thing, it completely drained the economy.

You can only concentrate wealth for so long because at some point, there will be no one left to buy. Please note, 400 families in this country have greater wealth than 150,000,00 combined. So instead of 150,000,000 consumers, you have 400. And those 150,000,000 consumers are now dependent on a government that doesn't have any tax base coming from 150,000,000, instead it is just going out. So that means someone will have to foot the bill because event the Fed can't just keep on printing money or we may lose the dollar as the oil standard exchange. If that happens, this little recession is nothing.

How is that greed working out for ya? Glad you didn't pay living wages. I mean really, I am not sure if the interst alone several hundred million would be enough to live on.
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J T K
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12:17 AM on 09/15/2011
If there's nobody to buy certain products then the market will change. Those products will lose prominence or disappear entirely while products that are in demand by will rise in prominence and enter the marketplace. Companies make what people buy, when people stop buying the companies will stop making these products because it won't make economic sense to continue.
01:35 PM on 09/14/2011
What? There's nothing more to loot?


http://theweek.com/article/index/98972/rabbis-and-organ-trafficking
12:01 PM on 09/14/2011
The poll is flawed if they used anything less than 500k as rich. 100k is not even close to rich! 100k today is now middle class
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12:35 PM on 09/14/2011
100K can't be middle class when in 2010 the median income was 49K :-| Anyone complaining about not having enough and making 100k+ needs to downgrade
01:39 PM on 09/14/2011
so not true.... where do you live.... 100k in nyc isnt much
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Timma
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08:12 PM on 09/14/2011
If that's the case then I'm paying way too much in tazes...
11:35 AM on 09/14/2011
Maybe they finally realized the jig is up and that 80% of American (their market) is bankrupt.
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12:46 PM on 09/14/2011
Yep! Can't sell to broke people!
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loki
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01:59 PM on 09/14/2011
but when will 80% of the American people get fed up with supporting the rich? Its time to take our lives back from the parasitic tyrants. by force if need be, but it is past time to do it.
11:23 AM on 09/14/2011
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Rightlygay
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11:21 AM on 09/14/2011
$119 / day ! That cant be right...I am far from wealthy and easily spend $100 / day....If thats all they are spending.......we have a serious problem......
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Bishop Coxcomb
11:15 AM on 09/14/2011
Wait... the title of this article suggests there are people out there who are actually optimistic about our economy.
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Indigo1941
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10:35 AM on 09/14/2011
I thought the super-wealthy had all fled to Uraguay or the Grand Caymans. What're they doing here? Slumming? Obviously their spending is down, there's nothing left on the shelves but old warehouse junk.
10:15 AM on 09/14/2011
The super wealthy suffer from greed and attachment - they fear loss more than those who no longer have anything to lose.