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Democrats: New York 9 Loss Doesn't Mean Anything For Obama In 2012

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First Posted: 09/14/11 02:25 PM ET Updated: 11/14/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Democrats were quick to defend the party against its losses in New York's ninth congressional district and Nevada's second, saying on Wednesday that the elections are not a "bellwether" for public opinion of President Barack Obama.

"The bottom line is it's not a bellwether district. Anyone who tries to extrapolate ... is making a big mistake," Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said of his former district on a Democratic National Committee call.

"We are not going to sugar coat it, this was a tough loss," the Democratic Congressional Committee admitted in a memo released on Wednesday. Still, the committee, which is responsible for fundraising and electoral strategy for Congressional Democrats, was quick to say the results of New York 9 "are not reflective of what will happen in November 2012."

The media narrative of Tuesday's special elections mainly focused on New York 9, formerly held by Democratic Rep. Anthony Weiner, who resigned in scandal in June. Observers have declared the Republican win a victory for pro-Israel politics, a rebuke of New York's gay marriage law, a turning tide against Obama and a response to the faltering economy.

Mostly, though, headlines have focused on what the loss means for Obama, particularly in a district that has been blue since 1923. Nevada 2, by contrast, is typically a Republican district and came as less of a shock.

It's possible that voters in New York 9, like voters overall, have soured on Obama somewhat since he was elected in 2008. After the special election, the Associated Press cited Siena poll figures from Friday that only 43 percent of likely voters in the district approved of Obama's job performance.

Of course, it's impossible to pinpoint the exact reason why Democratic candidate David Weprin lost to Republican Bob Turner in New York 9, but Democrats argue economic concerns, not Obama's unpopularity, may be the primary culprit. Obama's jobs plan, then, could help him in 2012, Schumer said.

"I think the jobs issue is going to be very, very important, probably more important than just about any other," he said. "The fact that the president has a strong, robust plan on jobs, and I think the Republican plan would not resonate in this district. I think the president will do well in this district."

The White House also responded to the special election losses, saying they should not be viewed as a referendum on the president. New York 9, in particular, was a special case in a specific district, White House Spokesman Jay Carney said, according to a pool report.

"Special elections are often unique and their outcomes don't tell you very much about future regularly scheduled elections," Carney said. "You can make those predictions and look foolish in 14 months or not, I'm simply saying we do not view them" as a referendum.

It's common for the losing side in a special election to argue that the results should not be taken as a sign of broader trends. After Republicans lost a special election in New York's 26th congressional district in May, National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said it would be "naive and risky ... to predict the future based on the results of this unusual race."

Special elections are "poor indicators of broader trends or future general election outcomes," Sessions said at the time. "If special elections were an early warning system, they sure failed to alert the Democrats of the political tsunami that flooded their ranks in 2010."

Moving forward, Democrats plan to push a message that Obama is pro-jobs and growth, in hopes that the issue will help him win his re-election bid.

"Our chances remain quite strong," DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said on a conference call. "While the Republicans are spending the year courting the Tea Party base and signing onto any pledge the Tea Party demands, the president's out there fighting every day to create jobs."

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WASHINGTON -- Democrats were quick to defend the party against its losses in New York's ninth congressional district and Nevada's second, saying on Wednesday that the elections are not a "bellwether" ...
WASHINGTON -- Democrats were quick to defend the party against its losses in New York's ninth congressional district and Nevada's second, saying on Wednesday that the elections are not a "bellwether" ...
 
 
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02:49 PM on 09/18/2011
It will be decided on coming 2012 what thing any one has what thing does not.
poppie0144
use our natural gas
07:59 PM on 09/16/2011
You know, we constantly have people saying dumb things. I don't how you can lie, know you're lying. Look people straight in the eye. Oh I forgot, she's a politician.
10:48 AM on 09/17/2011
Well she is Wasserman Schultz and has been lying to the people of Florida for years. Chuckie boy is a moron and continues to show his foolish side to the people of New York. By the way, wasn't Weiner man his protege? I hope NY and Florida both go for someone besides bho...
05:56 AM on 09/16/2011
Nothing to see here , move along, move along...
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dad4lifesl
Educated White Heterosexual Male & a Proud Vet!
06:22 PM on 09/15/2011
I would partially agree with the title of this article if it were not for his current low poll numbers, the fact he did not get a bump from his speech to Congress, and the results of last midterms elections. You put all those ingredients together and you have a recipe for a GOP runaway next November unless he can pull a rabbit out of his hat in the next year. The problem is,
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intellectualTradition
corruptisima re publica plurimae leges
04:46 PM on 09/15/2011
no one does denial and spin like the left.....which is how they get their heads handed to them in 2010
02:33 PM on 09/15/2011
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Very funny.

Democratic strategist James Carville has just one word of advice for President Barack Obama: panic.

In a CNN op-ed, Carville said Tuesday’s two special election results are a warning to the White House – and a sign the president must make drastic changes now to stave off the Republican momentum.
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"The Average Age at These Things Had to Be 72.4. They put every old crank in the country at these things."

Dem Strategist James Carville
On the Tax Day Tea Party Protests

I guess you agree with THAT too.
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IT1579
04:44 PM on 09/15/2011
I'm a Libertarian, so why not. But then why panic if the opposition is so feeble? It doesn't make sense does it.
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IT1579
02:28 PM on 09/15/2011
Very funny.


Democratic strategist James Carville has just one word of advice for President Barack Obama: panic.

In a CNN op-ed, Carville said Tuesday’s two special election results are a warning to the White House – and a sign the president must make drastic changes now to stave off the Republican momentum.



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02:45 PM on 09/15/2011
The 9th congressional district in NY MEANS NOTHING in the great political scheme of things.
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03:42 PM on 09/15/2011
Especially when weiner was the representative.
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IT1579
08:07 PM on 09/18/2011
Keep thinking that. I prefer Carville's take.
12:47 PM on 09/15/2011
Got kicked in the nuts. But can still perform...!
priceut
Enjoying the springtime of my senility.
06:53 PM on 09/15/2011
Geez. And no time outs in this league.
05:58 AM on 09/16/2011
Gasp....LOL.
12:15 PM on 09/15/2011
Israel is not going to be, abandoned, and this blame it on the Jews thing is dicey. Voting for President based on how that President treats a foreign country is really a problem. I'm not a New Yorker and have trouble seeing how someone in New York votes for local representation based on Israel policy? This is just going to make the TEA Party and Republicans go nuts.

It is way past time for the Left/Progressives/Liberals to shelve their problems with Israel and realize that though Bush and the military did a good thing in getting rid of Saddam Hussein and the quest to "drain the swamp" of the non-democracies around the world is a great needful thing, we cannot go about it the way we have with Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan ... it turns our country into a fascist disaster,and kills the economy and eventually freedom and liberty.

Corrupted Islam is the driver for a big section of the world, and then there is crime or thuggery, and it needs to be stopped ...AND ESPECIALLY IT NEEDS TO BE REGULATED IN DOING ANY KIND OF BUSINESS WITH SUCH COUNTRIES BECAUSE IT CREATES CORRUPTION IN THE US AS WELL.
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09:48 PM on 09/23/2011
I am so confused. Why are Jewish people here voting for fascists here? Now I have to move out of the district and go to AUSTRIA where I can at least have health care? This is SO backwards. What's going on?
10:14 PM on 09/23/2011
LOL, who knows?
12:08 PM on 09/15/2011
Conservatives really don't care about anyone who isn't rich.

Even the people working for them.

When Ron Paul was asked by Wolf Blitzer if a person should simply be left to die in his world view, the audience cheered and Paul gave a sickening response....

"That's what freedom is all about: taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to take care of everybody—" .....

His OWN campaign manager has NO health insurance, got sick, and_died_in debt.

Just like Ayn Rand.
02:09 PM on 09/15/2011
"Just like Ayn Rand."
I've heard that said before. Is there a legitimate reference to back that up? I'm curious as to whether there is any truth behind the image.
02:27 PM on 09/15/2011
Is that ALL you people DO is hear things SAID?

Do you NEVER investigate for YOURSELVES?

AFRAID you'll find out a FACT?
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rsicorp
Taxpaying American
02:14 PM on 09/15/2011
FYI conservatives donate more way money and personal time than liberals. Just a fact.
02:28 PM on 09/15/2011
Just an unsubstantiated bit of CRAP.
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IT1579
02:29 PM on 09/15/2011
Ba rry is trying to change that by eliminating the tax deduction for charitable contributions.
12:03 PM on 09/15/2011
I'm behind him still but if he does throw it all away he can only blame himself and his advisers (looking at your Rahm). He came in with a huge mandate and started capitulating and telling us on the Left that he would not even try to fight for our priorities ever since the Health Care debate. He picked Wall Street over Main Street on the bailout. He chose the Right wing establishment tax and deficit lies over the demonstrable truth that REAL Keynesian stimulus would get us back on our feet. He put the priorities of those that hate him and will always hate him over those of we who supported him in 2008. All bad choices that keep costing the Dems elections.

We don't demand perfection and we know you can't win them all but not even trying was a huge let down after we worked so hard for him. He's got my vote but now that I know he's more DLC than Hillary ever was (which I know is a BOLD statement) I won't be sending any money since I know that he's got no intention of fighting for us. I'll give it to Elizabeth Warren instead!
12:01 PM on 09/15/2011
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And yet the GOP will be the majority in the senate, house and take the presidency in 2012.
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If you people had concentrated on JOBS....

rather than making sure the "n---er president" FAILS.....

you'd be running them already.
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rsicorp
Taxpaying American
02:16 PM on 09/15/2011
Racial slurs aside, he is making sure he fails
02:29 PM on 09/15/2011
"HE" who?
petersjlynn
Wherever I go, I'm always there.....
11:59 AM on 09/15/2011
Gee. There is striking resemblance of these comments to the ones Nancy Pelosi made before the 2010 elections and we all know what happened then.....eh?

Democrats play on the ignorance of Americans. And such ignorance tends to follow wherever they go.
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11:59 AM on 09/15/2011
Obama will have a supermajority in congress to work with in 2012, sorry gop, your boy Bush will put you on the sidelines for several years
02:10 PM on 09/15/2011
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahah.....
oh, man....my ribs.....hee heeeee.....
ah...stop it...I cant breathe.......whoo!
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democrats for life
republicans need not apply
02:36 PM on 09/15/2011
i heard monkeys like to laugh alot too, monkeyboy
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supergenius02
02:31 PM on 09/15/2011
What color is the sky in your world? I think you someone gave you 2008 polling data instead of the current 2011 polling data by mistake.
02:51 PM on 09/15/2011
The MORE Perry talks....

the HIGHER Obama's NUMBERS go.
11:56 AM on 09/15/2011
Teapublicans believe the Flintstones was a documentary on the Science Channel.
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
12:10 PM on 09/15/2011
Now that made me laugh!
02:12 PM on 09/15/2011
While Libocrats know it was more like "Dinosaurs"?