Casey Anthony's Father, George Anthony, Tells Dr. Phil He Blames Her For Caylee's Death (VIDEO)

Appearing on "Dr. Phil" for the second time in two days, George Anthony said he blamed his daughter, Casey Anthony, for the death of his two-year-old granddaughter, Caylee.

"Yeah, I blame my daughter for Caylee not being here today," George Anthony told Dr. Phil McGraw. "I lost Caylee three years ago and I believe I lost Casey at the same time. I believe that. She is responsible."

Casey Anthony was acquitted of killing Caylee in July. She was convicted on four lesser charges of lying to police and was released days after the trial ended. She is currently in Florida, serving a year of probation stemming from an unrelated 2010 conviction on check fraud charges.

George and Cindy Anthony have dramatically different points of view about their daughter's level of involvement in their Caylee's death.

Cindy Anthony said on the show that she does not know what happened on June 16, 2008 -- the day her daughter's attorneys claim Caylee drowned in the family swimming pool.

"I don't know, but something happened that day that forever changed [Casey's] behavior," she said. "I buy the part that Caylee drowned but I don't buy the circumstances surrounding the drowning."

George Anthony had a different point of view.

"I believe something else happened to her. ... I believe Casey or someone else she was with possibly gave too much to Caylee. She fell asleep and didn't wake up," he said.

When McGraw asked, "Too much what?" Anthony replied, "Possibly some kind of drug or something like that."

The drugs would have allowed Casey Anthony to "go out and have a good time. To be with friends," George Anthony said. His wife was visibly surprised by his response.

"This is the first time that I've heard this out of his mouth," Cindy Anthony said. She added: "I don't buy that for a moment. I'm sorry. We disagree about this. ... I'm really kind of shocked to hear that today."

George Anthony also said he suspects his daughter was present when Caylee was buried in the woods near their house and said that she "probably had some help."

Despite the difference in opinion, Cindy Anthony said she was not angry with her husband.

"If that's how he feels and he is finally getting that out in the open, then I think that's a good thing for him because he's held so much in," she said.

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• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Casey Anthony goes over paperwork during a break on the final day of arguments in her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Assist. State Attorney Linda Drane Burdick presents the final portion of rebuttal at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 5, 2011

  Casey Anthony stands for the arrival of the jury at the start of the second day of jury deliberations in her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Tuesday, July 5, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Spectators in the courtroom listen to the rebuttal presented by Assist. State Attorney Jeff Ashton on the final day of arguments in the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Assistant State Attorney Jeff Ashton gives the final rebuttal in the Casey Anthony murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Judge Belvin Perry listens as Assist. State Attorney Jeff Ashton present rebuttal on the last day of arguments in the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Casey Anthony with her attorney Dorothy Clay Sims on the last day of arguments in Anthony's murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 4, 2011

  Cindy Anthony, wearing bracelets in tribute to her granddaughter Caylee Anthony, listens during the final day of arguments in the trial of her daughter Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, July 4, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 3, 2011

  Defense attorney Cheney Mason presents a burden of proof chart during closing arguments of the Casey Anthony murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Sunday, July 3, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 3, 2011

  Jose Baez points and yells in the direction of the prosecution table during his closing arguments in the Casey Anthony murder trial in Orlando, Fla., Sunday, July 3, 2011. Judge Belvin Perry called a sidebar during the arguments to deal with the outburst. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder charges in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted on the charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 3, 2011

  George Anthony listens to closing arguments in the murder trial of his daughter, Casey, in Orlando, Fla. on Sunday, July 3, 2011. Casey Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 3, 2011

  Casey Anthony reacts while listening to the state's closing arguments in her murder trial in Orlando, Fla., Sunday, July 3, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty, if convicted.

• Casey Anthony Trial July 3, 2011

  Assistant state attorney Jeff Ashton presents closing arguments for the state in the murder trial of Casey Anthony in Orlando, Fla., Sunday, July 3, 2011. Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 30, 2011

  Casey Anthony gestures during her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse Thursday, June 30, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, has plead not guilty in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 30, 2011

  Spectator Matthew Bartlett is taken away by sheriff deputies on a contempt charge for his obscene gesture toward assistant state attorney Jeff Ashton during Casey Anthony's murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse Thursday, June 30, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Casey Anthony, 25, has plead not guilty in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 30, 2011

  Lee Anthony testifies during the murder trial of his sister Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse on June 30, 2011 in Orlando, Florida. Anthony's defense attorneys argued that she didn't kill her two-year-old daughter Caylee, but that she accidentally drowned.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 30, 2011

  Krystal Holloway, also known as River Cruz, reacts when questioned about transcripts from her police statements during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Thursday, June 30, 2011. Holloway claims to have had an affair with George Anthony, Casey's father.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 29, 2011

  George Anthony reacts during his testimony in the murder trial of his daughter, Casey, in Orlando, Fla., Wednesday, June 29, 2011. Casey Anthony has plead not guilty to first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee, and could face the death penalty if convicted of that charge.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 28, 2011

  Casey Anthony sits in court at her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Tuesday, June 28.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 28, 2011

  Lee Anthony, right, returns to his seat next to his mother Cindy Anthony after he testified in the murder trial of sister Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Tuesday, June 28.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 28, 2011

  An aerial photo showing the location where Caylee Anthony's remains were found is projected on a courtroom monitor in the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Tuesday, June 28.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 28, 2011

  Roy Kronk, a meter reader for Orange County, testifies during the Casey Anthony murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, Tuesday, June 28, 2011, in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 28, 2011

  Roy Kronk, the meter reader who found Caylee Anthony's remains, testifies in the murder trial of Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Tuesday, June 28.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 27, 2011

  Defense attorney Jose Baez, left and Assistant state attorney Jeff Ashton, center, look over evidence with witness Dr. Kenneth Furton, a forensic chemist, during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, June 27, 2011. Anthony, 25, is charged with the murder of her 2-year old daughter in 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 27, 2011

  Casey Anthony, left, listens to her attorney Anne Finnell before the start of court in her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla. on Monday, June 27, 2011. Anthony, 25, is charged with the murder of her 2-year old daughter in 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 27, 2011

  Jason Forgey, a canine handler for the Orange County Sheriff's Department, testifies during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Monday, June 27, 2011. Anthony, 25, is charged with the murder of her 2-year old daughter in 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 27, 2011

  An image projected on a courtroom monitor shows a portion of a Powerpoint presentation entered into evidence at the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Monday, June 27, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 23, 2011

  Cindy Anthony testifies during her daughter Casey Anthony's murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 23, 2011. Casey Anthony is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee in 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 23, 2011

  Casey Anthony sits at the defense table during a recess during her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, on Thursday, June 23, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 23, 2011

  Evidence is lined up in front of Dr. Barry Logan, an analytic chemist, as he waits to testify on day 26 of Casey Anthony's murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 23, 2011. Anthony is charged with killing her daughter, Caylee.

• Casey Anthony Trial Photos

  An image projected on a courtroom monitor shows a photograph entered into evidence during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 23, 2011. Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 23, 2011

  Judge Belvin Perry on day 26 of Casey Anthony's 1st-degree murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 23, 2011. Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial Photos

  A picture of computer reports from the Anthony desktop computer is shown on a courtroom monitor on day 26 of Casey Anthony's first degree murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Thursday, June 23, 2011. Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008. (AP Photo/Red Huber, Pool)

• Casey Anthony Trial June 22, 2011

  Casey Anthony talks with her attorney Jose Baez, left, during a recess in her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Wednesday, June 22, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 22, 2011

  Cindy Anthony listens in court during the trial of her daughter Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Wednesday, June 22, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial Photos

  An image projected on a courtroom monitor shows a photo entered into evidence in the trial of Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 22, 2011

  Dr. Michael Sigman testifies about air samples during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Wednesday, June 22, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 22, 2011

  Maureen Bottrell, a forensic geologist for the FBI, testifies in the trial of Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Wednesday, June 22, 2011. (Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel/MCT)

• Casey Anthony Trial June 20, 2011

  Judge Belvin Perry, center, holds a sidebar conference with attorneys in the Casey Anthony murder trail in Orlando, Fla., on Monday, June 20, 2011. An infuriated Perry warned the Anthony defense and prosecution today that he is getting fed up with games being played during the course of the trial. Court was recessed early without explanation.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 20, 2011

  Assistant state attorney Jeff Ashton listens to Judge Belvin Perry's directions during the Casey Anthony trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Monday, June 20, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 20, 2011

  Defense attorney Jose Baez, second from right, and his client Casey Anthony listen to assistant state attorney Jeff Ashton talk to Judge Belvin Perry, not pictured, before the start of court at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Monday, June 20, 2011. (Red Huber/Orlando Sentinel/MCT)

• Casey Anthony Trial June 20, 2011

  Casey Anthony enters the courtroom for the 22nd day of her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, Monday, June 20, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial

  During forensic expert Dr. Spitz's testimony, Casey Anthony turns her head away when photos of the skull of her daughter, Caylee Marie, were shown at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Saturday, June 18, 2011. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 18, 2011

  Forensic expert Dr. Werner Spitz testifies in the trial of Casey Anthony, talking about autopsy results of the remains of Caylee Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Saturday, June 18, 2011. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 18, 2011

  Chief Judge Belvin Perry expresses deep frustration at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Saturday, June 18, 2011, that defense attorney Jose Baez attempted to elicit critical testimony from William Rodriguez, testimony that had not been disclosed to the prosecution earlier. Perry may end up punishing Baez with a contempt finding, but he reserved ruling on that matter. Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 18, 2011

  Casey Anthony, right, consoles her attorney Jose Baez after Chief Judge Belvin Perry expressed deep frustration that defense attorney Jose Baez attempted to elicit critical testimony from William Rodriguez, testimony that had not been disclosed to the prosecution earlier. Perry may end up punishing Baez with a contempt finding, but he reserved ruling on that matter. at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Fla., Saturday, June 18, 2011.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 17, 2011

  Casey Anthony is shown at the defense table before the start of court in her murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, Friday, June 17, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 17, 2011

  Dr. Tim Huntington, forensic entomologist, testifies during the murder trial of Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse, Friday, June 17, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 17, 2011

  An evidence photo showing trash found in the trunk of a car is held by an attorney during the Casey Anthony murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, Friday, June 17, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 17, 2011

  George Anthony listens to testimony during the murder trial of his daughter Casey Anthony at the Orange County Courthouse, Friday, June 17, 2011 in Orlando, Fla. Anthony, 25, is charged with killing her daughter Caylee in the summer of 2008.

• Casey Anthony Trial June 16, 2011

  Casey Anthony, with her attorney Cheney Mason, during day 20 of her first-degree murder trial at the Orange County Courthouse, in Orlando, Florida, Thursday, June 16, 2011.

Cindy Anthony had many potential excuses for her daughter's bizarre behavior, but did say she believed there is "something seriously wrong with ... her thought processes."

But, in regard to the verdict that set her daughter free, Cindy Anthony did not mince words.

"I believe that justice for Caylee was when her mother walked," she said. "I believe that with all my heart because I know the love that those two had and I know that Caylee's soul would never have rested. ... I believe it was an accident and until someone can prove differently that is what I believe."

Comments

[smitthy]

09:06 AM on 09/20/2011

I read that Baez was on the View to a welcoming thunderous applause (not). Anyway he is continuing his George bashing, and stated that Caylee died on Monday, June 16th in the AFTERNOON. During the Trial he stated it was the EARLY Morning Hours.

[moondawg95]

12:36 PM on 09/20/2011

Unbelievable smtthy - I thought he said morning as well. Maybe his new "high profile" case is overwhelming his brain & he'll slip up real good on something else concrning Casey's case & things could be looked into more deeply. I 'd love to see him mess up bad enough to open an investigation into it all. I'm on the west coast, so I'll watch it in a few, it hasn't aired yet.

[Susan Shaffer]

05:40 PM on 10/28/2011

according to Baez outline in the trial it did sound like it was morning but since Casey woke late that day (it was about 10-11 from what I remember) then wouldn't the discovery be at that time and not early morning.

[smitthy]

06:32 PM on 10/28/2011

Well... ? Conundrum? Baez has not been very consistent on the matter, nor Casey... for sure.

[Bogym]

11:07 PM on 09/19/2011

Imagine going through a tragedy like this. Dr. Phil is doing nothing but creating a situation that these people will not be able to handle. He doesn't need to know their deep feeling's and surprising thoughts. None of us do at this stage. Pandering to the emotions of parents who are obviously decimated by the loss of their loved ones...One bodily and the other spiritually.The only healing this family will ever have is with the Lord..none of us can do it. Certainly not a TV pundit pretending to care for an hour! I pray that the Father and Mother find peace and forgiveness for their daughter..wouldn't you want that?? Then the truth..whatever it is..can be told to them..if not already....it is now, none of our business to second guess what they should have done or should have done.. Dr. Phil..as for you..no words can express my scorn for you...you serve YOU!

[SUES4U]

06:02 PM on 09/19/2011

Cindy Anthony needs help...she is in serious denial about her daughter. Claiming Cadseys seizure problem explains away her guilt is a cop out for not being able to face the truth. Her daughter was 'not' a good mother by any definition. A few pictures of smiles and hugs and she is a loving parent??? Only when she was in the mood as I see it. Her parents enabled her for too long and when she was on her own the baby was a mere inconvenience--that she took care of. Her being found not guilty is a travesty!!! Her dad believes she is guilty!!

[babybelle]

05:20 PM on 09/19/2011

My comment on the interview today:
Georges reaction to the verdict has me wondering if he would someday file a wrongful death lawsuit.
Of course something like that would only happen if him and Cindy broke up and that doesn't look likely.

[Theresa Cavender]

10:03 AM on 09/20/2011

One could only hope and cross fingers!

[moondawg95]

12:41 PM on 09/20/2011

That, in my opinion, isn't out of the realm of possibility babybelle. I thought of that as well. If he & Cindy are together, maybe not, but he was so firm with his responses, I could see him doing it. Can't say I disagree with him at all on his views on Casey & the allegations either. It's obvious he wasn't just blaming Baez for the trashy remarks either. I don't see Casey moving home anytime in the near future.

[babybelle]

01:09 PM on 09/20/2011

The possibility of George filing a wrongful death suit are probably slim, but it sure would send a message to Casey that George is going to have the last word and he isn't going to put up with anymore of her BS .

[sweetjudi1]

03:43 PM on 09/19/2011

Daddy is hiding something I could feel it since thje beginning,what ever he is trying to hide is about himself.

[babybelle]

05:45 PM on 09/19/2011

Ah yes, sweetjud !
Daddy was so good at hiding that those experienced savvy detectives assigned to the case never even suspected him!
Who knew George was such a brilliant guy?
You should notify the Orlando police what you are feeling. Maybe they give you a job.
Don't count on it though! LOL

[moondawg95]

12:43 PM on 09/20/2011

babybelle - I have to agree with sweetjudi, to a degree.... He was hiding how angry he was & how badly he wants to kick booty on Baez & Casey for the lies, but nothing else in my opinion.

[firststatemate]

09:30 PM on 09/18/2011

Cyndy Anthony is just an evolving mess of denial and delusion. George is the only salvageable one in the family, the only one touching base with reality. The truth is they don't any more about Caylee's death than we all do, and as Casey's parents they don't want to look at all the evidence objectively and arrive at the conclusion that most of the country has.

[ctportorange6]

08:53 AM on 09/20/2011

I think this is the truth. Caylee died and Casey took off with her in the car couple days. She did not contact parents in those 31 days I would say, they contacted her all the time most likely. I think they assumed she was actually out of town and therefore thought they could rest awhile from all the commotion that Casey caused. Peace at home for a few days and Casey accepting responsibility with Caylee thankfully. As time went by, Cindy may have started wondering. Then as more time went by, she felt apprehensive. Towards the 3 and 4th week a little panicky. Just wanted to see Caylee to hug and have her back home. Then the end: Cindy realized car smell. George would have gone for the car earlier but probably thought of cost and an extra day or so would not add that much on as the expensive part already on the bill towing etc. So working and all he got to it in a couple more days. Hence smell, hence Cindy smelling the odor and the crap hit the fan big time. Fear and no Caylee seen for a monbth.

[moondawg95]

12:51 PM on 09/20/2011

I think George is the only one, not in denial with all of this. I felt he was very fair in his speaking of Caylee's death & the facts surrounding it all. As he said, he felt she was probably drugged, but he just wasn't sure by what. I agree, as certain facts, were not proven, because of the lack of DNA, so his statements, were fair & he does seem to feel as most of us do. Stating Casey was too blame & wanting her held accountable for it with at least one of the 2 lower counts she was charged with, was exactly what I'd hoped for as well. I feel he looked at it very objectively.

[ctportorange6]

04:24 PM on 09/22/2011

True, Moon.

[bfda9]

06:53 PM on 09/18/2011

George Anthony in my book is also guilty of hiding Caylees Little body n her mother even lied in court to save Casey from going to prison .I can not believe they go on dr . phil and now switch thier stories.I wonder how much they got payed ,they are monsters just like casey and will reap what they soul.George Anthony was a so called cop n had no clue what his daughter did give me a break if they Loved Caylee they would jhave taken better measures to keep her safe n away from this Monster of thier Casey Anthony.Casey is out there still drinking and parting and LiTTLE CAYLEE IS GONE N THEY CALL THIS JUSTICE .

[ctportorange6]

09:07 PM on 09/18/2011

They had to trust Casey or they had nothing left. Neither parent was guilty of Caylees death. As hard as Casey is, she would have told and set herself free from a 3 year prison lock away. What could she tell if she were the guilty one. That left no one to put the blame on for her to escape. When you study all long and hard you will return to Casey at the root of it all.

[IamYourDrillThrall]

09:12 AM on 09/19/2011

I don't agree that they are monsters. NO evidence George hid the body; not one shred. And exaclty how did you expect them to control their daughter? She was an adult. Short of throwing her out of the streets (with Caylee, which is kinda what happened) they couldn't be with Casey 24 hours a day. They had their own lives to live, jobs to go to, bills to pay (hers.)

[ctportorange6]

06:38 PM on 09/19/2011

I do not agree they are monsters either, IAMYOURDRILLTHALL. No one is perfect. Today it is harder raising teenagers/PEER PRESSURE. Some are just not controllable. There are not words to even describe this one and her problems except the sociopath reasoning. I still say from what most people say, they are beyond help if diagnosed with such if that is the correct way to word it. Yes, someone has to deal with one to see if they really have the characteristics such as weekly counseling. I do not even hold my breath on Casey. It is a dead giveaway that she is one from all indications. However, lets see how this grief counseling that most likely Baez has pushed through gets any answers. BUT we do know all that is uncovered is private information, so????. Therefore, they can counsel her all they want to but no one is allowed to let out one peep as to what they discover with her. I would say if professionals see her from afar, then if they see her many personality traits displayed lets put it, then they can just about hit the nail on the head that she definitely fits the description of one and can evasively disclose it with care. They have to be careful voicing such because of law suits. I would bet a bipper on it she is.

[moondawg95]

10:17 PM on 09/19/2011

After seeing today's interview, my book on George is definitely closed. I don't think that man had a darn thing to do with any of it. I also found it interesting on how it was brought up about how Casey more than likely put a stop on Baez on going after Lee, when he was the one she stated Definite allegations of sexual abuse by. Why would she have done that when all she had actually stated before was she thought, maybe George had done it as well? It makes no sense, other than Casey's a sick minded .....I'll be nice. Cindy was actully very kind about George & the allegations thrown at him. It was nice to hear discount them all as lies as well.

[Parade Keegan]

06:00 PM on 09/18/2011

These parents are despicable, publicity hounds IMO. Anyone listening to this "mentally unstable" (illness pre Caylee) cannot seriously swallow his "take" on anything. These people are obscene IMO and are not "honoring" their granddaughter, they're "killing" her over and over IMO!

[ctportorange6]

09:08 PM on 09/18/2011

Some people on here need help. Be the first to cast a stone if

[coco6665]

03:09 PM on 09/18/2011

what is wrong with this picture, you would think by the posts that casey anthony is the only mother to kill thier kids

[jessijaynes]

11:05 AM on 09/18/2011

I think that because of the intensive media microscope, much ado is being made about nothing regarding George and Cindy. While there may actually BE families who fit the Norman Rockwell myth in America, they're not the majority. Cindy is an enabler, who used avoidance rather than confrontation with her mooching do-nothing daughter. George nearly destroyed their marriage with his gambling and his failure to unite as a team with Cindy in big decisions. I believe most every family contends with problems, some of even larger proportions. The big difference between the Anthonys and most all of us is their daughter is a psychopath who murdered her own child. This case exploded in the media, so now we look at them with great scrutiny.

There is lots of "George should've" or "why didn't Cindy" posts on here. I think George and Cindy do that to themselves on a daily basis. But prior to this case, they were doing their thing like we all do. With Caylee in their lives, it was made all the better. I participate in the scrutiny, and although these interviews interest me, I am coming to see that these aren't heinous monsters who participated - on ANY level - in this crime. They're just two people who, before their daughter made headlines, went to work each day, came home each night, and filled the in-between with the stuff of daily living... that we all do.

[ctportorange6]

01:00 PM on 09/18/2011

Correct, Jessijaynes. I think you have certainly hit the nail on the head.

[ptuph1]

04:59 PM on 09/18/2011

Hi, Jessi .....

Am responding to one of your other posts here because the thread had become so narrow at the other location that I couldn't reply there.

You asked when the Anthony's will next appear on the Dr. Phil show. It is scheduled for tomorrow, Monday, Sept. 19, according to everything I've seen and heard about it on TV.

Hope this gets to you in time. Good luck. And, again, thanx for all of your wonderful posts.

[jessijaynes]

06:15 PM on 09/18/2011

ptuph, thanks so much. I hope I can catch it. And thank you for your kind words.

[jessijaynes]

10:38 AM on 09/18/2011

People have asked again and again how is it Caylee told so many lies and her parents never suspected anything amiss? A woman I know has a daughter who is now about 28. When she was 22, she told her folks she was going back to school. They were elated, as she had no real job, and this was what they had hoped for. About a year and a half later, they had a family emergency and couldn't reach her on her cell phone, so they called the college. They gave them their daughter's name, and asked that they please find her and inform her they had to leave town quickly. The college told them no such student was enrolled. When the mother told me about this, my first question was, "How could you have not known?" She explained that her daughter had every base covered for this lie. She would leave each day with her backpack, and not return until late at night (studying in the library, ya know). She would use the computer to concoct memos and grade reports, even mimicking the college letterhead. She told them to write the tuition and book checks to her because they needed payment from her and this saved a lot of hassle (uh huh).

"Job" and "college" are things parents want for their children, so it's welcome news.

[ctportorange6]

01:29 PM on 09/18/2011

They were so elated that they never dreamed it was too good to be true. I can remember my parents gave me little calls just to see how I was doing. Being an only child, they had time to sort of check to see if I were ok since I was actually 4 hours away. I was also living alone in a room within a private home. I think Cindy and George did not check concerning Casey's jobs etc. as much because most likely Casey got snotty about just about anything that was investigating as to what she did with her time. I think that is at the back of Casey being told to be more responsible for Caylee's life in caring for her needs etc. And just as the couple did not check more so on their daughter because she seemed very responsible. It all seemed on the up and up. Actually with Casey, Cindy and George had to hope she was going to be responsible from 18 on with a child. I am certain they tried the best they could with Casey. Casey was a very dishonest young lady. The stealing is one of the problems that must have thrown Cindy and George terribly. There are jobs but probably nothing she would want to be tied down to. She wanted to party with singles and not accept she had a child to care for. This outcome was certainly not what George and Cindy ever visualized their entire life.

[Susan Shaffer]

04:25 PM on 09/18/2011

i get your point but George did investigate and he did find out that there was no job and he reported to cindy who yelled at him for following Casey. That was a full 2 years before Caylee disappeared. In 2 years cindy never questioned who this zanny was? What was her phone number? Invited her to the house for a bbq so that she knew who was looking after Caylee. Actually I think Cindy did invite them and Casey made an excuse why they didn't turn up.

[ctportorange6]

05:55 PM on 09/18/2011

I bet she did make all types of excuses concerning taking Caylee to a sitter. If Cindy was working, Caylee was being taken care of first by Casey some, then George, then Lee, then Cindy and the house was hectic, Cindy have maybe always thought she would get around to it and never did. What a mistake if so. George most likely ended up being the bad guy. He ruined Cindy's peace of mind when he discovered the lies. Something must have been disturbing him in the back of his mind. Somewhere Casey let something slip or he worried about little Caylee loving her so much. Cindy probably confronted Casey and trying to keep harmony did not follow up on what was going on later on until too late. This also was a cause of rebelling by Casey remember!!!!!! She did not want anyone to question her about Caylee as she thought she had it all lied about and covered until no one was none the wiser. Slick girl back then even. This family reminds me of one where everyone works and no one knows hardly what the other is doing half the time. It happens in the best of families too. Just thankfully an ending such as this does not always occur.

[ctportorange6]

06:09 PM on 09/18/2011

Check out Jessijaynes above comments in their entirety. You will find the one where he thinks he knows of a possibility of Caylees death time.

[Susan Shaffer]

03:45 PM on 09/17/2011

Davis, Cheryl – East Coast VP, Marketing and Sales (from emails Lee took from Casey’s computer and gave to LE). One of the people Casey named as coworker or supervisor. According to Lee Turtora, she does not exist. The only employee by this name was a server for Pat O’Briens’s in CityWalk. There is no “East Coast VP” for Marketing and Sales. See Coworkers, Alleged.

[Nadia Gruner]

04:48 AM on 09/18/2011

Can only post comment thru reply, sorry.
When her daughter turned 17 months old, she started realizing that she was put a sleep against her will. She had linked the sirups to the effect of sleeping so she started refusing taking it. Because she started refusing to be put asleep when it was convenient for her mother she started to put a fit and was fighting it every time. So Casey Anthony tried to outsmart the litle girl deciding that she should take her by surprise, by behind with "Etherethilene?" and increase the dose of the drug.
The rest is history. By the way, she has used her male friends to trick the baby. Anyhow, they all knew of the drug issue.

[ctportorange6]

01:32 PM on 09/18/2011

I think the one boy left town but most likely would have anyhow. Left word for casey he was gone. It is not telling what they know. They all probably ran different directions as far away from the Casey Anthony situation as they could get. I am not for certain these people were anything to write home about anyhow.

[Susan Shaffer]

03:44 PM on 09/17/2011

Coworkers, Alleged – As noted in various emails Lee took from Casey’s computer and gave to LE, the following people are either Casey’s supervisors or she dealt with when being hired: Cheryl Davis (East Coast VP, Marketing and Sales), Katherine Hart (HR Manager, Universal Studios, Florida), Gabe Marsh, Michael Hamilton, Thomas Franck (Event Coordinator, East Coast Operations). None of the email addresses were valid when messages were sent to them.

[IamYourDrillThrall]

09:51 AM on 09/19/2011

I listed/watched all 9 parts of her inital testimony to police in an interrogation room..they're available for free on youtube (again, in 9 different videos). A couple of things stood out to me:

1. The absolute EASE with which the fake names of coworkers & friends just rolled off her tongue. No hesitation about their names, the spelling, where they lived, moved to....there was no way of knowing that she was making EVERYTHING up at the time, but in hindsight, this is someone who lies like you and I breathe in air. So silky smooth, so at ease with her new policeman friends.

2. Her behavior is odd & unusual for a young mother with a child (supposedly) missing. She laughs often, smooths out and fixes her hair constantly, and acts lignt-hearted and flirty with the officers. Granted, they acted the same way towards her. One detective asks her "Gee, I noticed you cut your hair; when did you do that?" It seemed an inappropriate question to ask her, unless he was doing it in order to establish a bond of closeness with her in the hopes she might reveal some truths.

If this had been me, I would have been a hysterically crying, puffy-faced wreck. Even if I could manage a few moments of self control now & then, any mention of my missing daughter would send ripples of panic and desparation thru my body and I'd start crying all over again.

continued...

[Susan Shaffer]

11:21 PM on 09/19/2011

the thing about the names is very interesting.
If you go to that who is who link I provided and then there is a person that worked with casey and said there was a juliet and a jeff but could not remember their last names.
one thing that crossed my mind when they said there were so many zeneida gonzalez that the police were investigating, so I did a search and lo and behold there is an actress with that name. and of course there is juliet lewis who is also an actress and then finally i searched the jeff name and that I think is also an actor's name. So it struck me that she might remember the actors and actresses names. I used to work with a bunch of gay guys and they all used to call each other after film stars. so nick jones became jennifer jones and then just jennifer. One guy was called gloria after gloria swanson. I never did know his real name. As Casey was working at universal I wondered if fantasy took hold and they used to call each other by the film star names. Did you see "the usual suspects?" perfect example of using part information and then create work of fiction. the part information will jog the rest of the story. The address she provided were either across the street from a friend's home or the same block of apartments.

[Susan Shaffer]

11:27 PM on 09/19/2011

cheryl L davis listed in imdb.com
Katherine Hart listed in imdb
Gabrielle Marsh listed in imdb
several michael hamilton listed in imdb
thomas franck listed in imdb
I wonder!@!!

[IamYourDrillThrall]

09:58 AM on 09/19/2011

Pt II continued...

Where is her intense concern for the whereabouts of Caylee?


She says, in one video, "A mother just KNOWS...she feels a CONNECTION to her child...and I just KNOW she [Caylee] is alive." But she says it like a robot; not a trace of emotion in her voice. And it was a lie. She KNEW Caylee was dead.

3. Body language speaks volumes. There are 3, maybe 4 entire clips of just Casey, left alone in the room, (but still being taped; not sure if she was aware that everything was being recorded even when she WASN'T being asked questions. Any hoodle: During the time spent alone, she spends 1/2 her time grooming herself. Two or three times she pulls out, then re-tucks in her blouse, then pouffs it out just enough to flatter her bosom and waistline, intensely scrutinizes her cuticles, picking away at them, straightens her trouser legs, lines up the creases, and of course, the hair. Never stops touching up her bangs, smoothing out the front, flipping it back and forth, the way teen girls do when they want to flirt with a boy they like.

When she isn't obsessing over her appearance, she sits in total silence, staring straight ahead, appearing relaxed. Hard as I try, I cannot wrap my head around what goes on in hers. Anyone?

[SUES4U]

06:11 PM on 09/19/2011

psychopath... no doubt about it.

[ctportorange6]

06:54 PM on 09/19/2011

Remember how she did all the straightening hair, pushing blouse into skirt, straightening it out. She even worked on herself the day the court reporter read off charges, and consequences. She messed with herself so much, that she had me nervous at times. Also the only one that smeared their eyeshadow and looked like death during the whole trial was Cindy. Casey was so cautious working on the tears way under her lash line. At one point I thought I was going to holler out during the trial and my just watching it on tv. Leave your face alone, Nut. That kept coming to me when she kept with the same hanky as someone else noticed using it over and over. Yours or mine would have been saturated if talking about a dead child of ours, showing the pictures, the bones etc. I honestly think she is the most hateful person that I have ever seen concerning the death of her child. No type of reaction to the death of her child. Casey knows what she is doing, saying and is just cold. I mean out right cold no heart whatever. If I am stepping on someone toes that thinks she is wonderful, sorry, just what I think and will not change my mind. I would really feel bad if something happen to her. I think she deserves to see how many people that know her on the street cross to get on the other side from her.

[Susan Shaffer]

03:38 PM on 09/17/2011

I stumbled upon a site that had an interesting tidbit

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/whos-who/
#

what is interesting is how casey received emails from her supposed employer @events.universal.com but that the police tried the return email and they didn't work. To create such a fake email requires some sophisticated IT knowledge.

since the rpsocution bothered to engage IT professionals to analyse the hard drive, I am surprised that more effort wasn't put into finding out who sent these mails.

[IamYourDrillThrall]

10:01 AM on 09/19/2011

Could Casey have accomplished this bit of fraud herself, or do you think this implies someone helping her?

[Susan Shaffer]

11:09 PM on 09/19/2011

I am not aware of her having this sort of it skill. I don't know how to do it, do you?
even though the email is fake can't you find out info about the routing of the email from the source code of the email? eg open a mail,click on file, then properties and it gives much more detail about the routing of the mail. I am surprised that the police didn't get an IT professional involved since it is such a curious thing to happen.
I didn't see the post with regard to the rose bush. In a way it seems feasible.
1. she did ask for the shovel. The car was always reversed into the garage on 18th.
2. the body was not dumped on june 18 and I know this because the car did not smell until june 25. It has been one of my ongoing questions of where the body was during that week. If the body had been in the yard the neighbours would have wondered about the smell.
3. three things slow down decomp, burial, submersion in water, refrigeration. I wondered whether she had tried to bury the child and then George noticed the disturbed ground. That is why I was suspicious of him since his deposition shows he is almost anally retentive. Correction, not almost, is. The anthony's have a freezer and that was discussed in George's deposition. If the police had thought it was large enough they would have tested for evidence.

[ctportorange6]

07:10 PM on 09/19/2011

Did you notice where Casey was living with Tony beginning June 9. How much you want to bet this is about when Cindy set her foot down with Casey telling her she had to take care of Caylee more than she was. Why, Casey was gone all the time and not coming home, Susan. So somewhere between June 9 and June 16, Casey went into a tizzy and then end of Caylee. She was living with Tony and then 7 days later, June 16, is when Jessi you and I wonder what happened. Caylee would have been a problem starting then June 7. I wondered if Jessi and you had noticed this. George was home the morning of June 16 so all happened in the afternoon I bet, Susan.

[Joyfull40]

07:01 AM on 09/17/2011

This case was turned into a public spectacle via Nancy Grace from day one. Why they even bothered with a trial is baffling as Nancy Grace had already taken over as Judge & Jury. If NG decides a person is guity of a crime, even if they could be innocent, she easily convinces the gullable public who dote on her every word, the person is guilty. As for the trial itself, the parents should have been on the stands.There's no way the parents, especially the father are not involved with this childs death.

I find it ironic that people are so rabid about the CA case they couldn't let it rest if they tried. If it was proven beyond a doubt that Casey Anthony was innocent, most wouldn't believe it as their brainwashed heads could not accept it.

I also find it ironic that barely a soul has a word for 7 yr old disabled Jori Lirette who was bludgeoned, decapitated & dismembered by his father. Where's all the public outrage over this young childs death? Not newsworthy enough folks?

[rah138]

01:10 PM on 09/17/2011

But she was acquitted, so Nancy Grace didn't get her way, and Casey can never be tried for it again. Even if she wrote a book about how she did it.

[whoknew222]

01:19 PM on 09/20/2011

She certainly can be charged with another crime, there are a great many different manslaughter and degree related charges that she was not indicted on. She will NEVER tell what really happened, if she does they can, and will, charge her with one of those.

[ctportorange6]

03:03 PM on 09/17/2011

I got tired of hearing Nancy Grace as it was repeats every night. I think I listened a couple nights and quit on that. She was assuming as all of us are. Of course we are not assuming Caylee is dead. We do know who left with Caylee and who never brought her back to Granny and Pop's ever again too.