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Palestine Statehood Bid: U.S. Launches Last Diplomatic Offensive To Prevent Vote

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AMY TEIBEL   09/14/11 02:48 PM ET   AP

JERUSALEM — A high-level U.S. team kicked off a new round of shuttle diplomacy on Wednesday in a last-ditch effort to contain the diplomatic fallout from the Palestinian statehood push, but the odds of a breakthrough appeared slim as the Palestinians pledged to go ahead with mass rallies to draw world attention to their bid.

U.S. diplomats Dennis Ross and David Hale arrived late Wednesday for talks with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders. They were to travel to the West Bank on Thursday to talk with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

Washington is trying to persuade the Palestinians to drop their plan to ask the United Nations to recognize an independent Palestinian state, but so far without success.

The Palestinians are turning to the U.N. after peace talks with Israel broke down, hoping a U.N. bid would boost their statehood drive. Both Israel and the U.S. oppose the campaign, saying there is no substitute for negotiations.

An Israeli official said there was "a very intensive effort" under way in hopes of finding a formula that would allow negotiations to resume. "We hope we succeed. It's not a foregone conclusion," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was discussing a sensitive diplomatic matter.

There was no immediate Palestinian comment. Officials have said they remain determined to go to the U.N. unless Israel accepts their demand for a freeze on West Bank settlement construction and commits to a Palestinian state based on the cease-fire lines that mark the West Bank, east Jerusalem and Gaza – areas captured in the 1967 Mideast war.

With the odds of a breakthrough appearing slim, the Palestinians plan to submit a resolution to the United Nations during the annual General Assembly, which begins in New York on Tuesday.

Although the vote would not change the situation on the ground, the Palestinians believe U.N. recognition of a state along the 1967 lines would give them leverage in future negotiations.

Netanyahu wants to keep parts of the West Bank under any final peace deal and says that Israel will never relinquish control of east Jerusalem, home to sensitive Jewish, Christian and Muslim holy sites. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

Israeli-Palestinian talks stalled nearly three years ago, reviving only briefly last September before foundering again over Israeli settlement construction.

Palestinian activists announced Wednesday that they are planning two major demonstrations next week in connection with the U.N. bid: The first will be on Wednesday, and the second will come two days later on Sept. 23, when Abbas is scheduled to address the General Assembly.

The Palestinians say they are determined to keep the rallies peaceful.

"We want to tell world leaders that the Palestinian people seek freedom and independence and need your support," said Amin Maqboul, a senior official with Abbas' Fatah Party.

He said the rallies will take place inside West Bank towns and cities, and avoid Israeli military checkpoints and any other flashpoints like entrances to Israeli settlements. Police will ring the demonstrations to prevent any clashes with the Israelis, Maqboul said.

Israeli security officials are concerned that isolated incidents could touch off more widespread unrest. Soldiers and police have been training for months in preparation for possible violence.

Israeli leaders have also hinted of retaliation, including financial sanctions or the possible annexation of parts or all of the West Bank.

In addition to the U.S. efforts, the European Union's foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton, and special international Mideast envoy Tony Blair have been meeting with the sides this week. U.S. officials said Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton has been in touch with both Ashton and Blair in recent days.

While Israel has tried to play down the significance of the vote, a setback in the U.N. will add to a growing sense of isolation.

Turkey, a former ally, recalled its ambassador earlier this month after Israel refused to apologize for its May 2010 raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla that killed nine Turks.

Israel's ties with Egypt have been tested since the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak in February. Tensions boiled over last weekend when a mob attacked Israel's embassy in Cairo, forcing the evacuation of dozens of diplomats and their families.

A U.N. report released Wednesday praised state-building achievements by Abbas' government but warned they were at risk because of the stagnant political process.

Abbas' Palestinian Authority governs the West Bank, but lost control of Gaza to Hamas militants in 2007. A reunification pact signed in May between the Palestinian factions has not been carried out.

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Fred Ricardo
The white hat, Truth, Justices and theAmerican way
12:00 PM on 09/16/2011
I just don't believe America will pander to Israel for a few votes in the next election. What happened to this country and its values.

Israel is blocking a Palestine State because it will be hauled in front of the International Criminal Court where it can't win.
09:29 PM on 09/15/2011
The main reason that the US and Israel are trying so desparately to prevent this vote is because being recognized as a state removes the major hurdle from the Palestinian's going to the ICC. Israel knows that it will lose on nearly every issue in a fair court of law including on such issues as the Gaza Blockade, Separation Wall, Settlements, Borders and Right of Return. The Orwellian mantra of "peace can only be achieved through negotiations" is repeated ad nauseum by Israel and its allies to circumvent the international legal process.

If Israel's actions are legal as its supporters claim then they should have nothing to fear from the Palestinians challenging them in the ICC. It is the peaceful, fair and legal way to resolve this long standing issue.
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Vlady
Better Late
03:07 PM on 09/16/2011
"peace can only be achieved through negotiatio­ns"
05:46 PM on 09/17/2011
If your platitude was true then all historic peace agreements between occupiers and occupied would have to have been reached only via negotiations. There are many historical incidents that prove otherwise however I cannot even think of one lasting peace agreement between oppressors and the oppressed that was achieved only through negotiations!
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alterego55
Flash your citations or leave!
02:39 PM on 09/15/2011
Israel is nothing more than a cold war anachronism that has no diplomatic or strategic purpose for the US. All Israel does, is give Muslim extremists reasons to put targets on the backs of US citizens.
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anton123
03:23 PM on 09/15/2011
Be sure that they would do it even without Israel.
You line of thought remind me of a Chamberlain - only if we would appease Hitler with part of Czechoslovakia, they will leave us alone. Did it really help?

Are you familiar with quote? "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce".
I'm afraid that this is what happening now - another wave of appeasement. This time to radial Islam by "enlightened world".

It's naive and very dangerous approach.
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piul05
Are you looking at my ears?! (Mo-om!!!)
04:48 PM on 09/15/2011
Inane and devoid of facts - a poorly argued point and even worse analogy.
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warmonkey
10:28 PM on 09/15/2011
"Be sure that they would do it even without Israel."

Why? For what reason?
I am not so sure that Muslim Extremists would even exist.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
08:02 PM on 09/15/2011
So if we stopped supporting israel entirely and the extremists still hate us, will you be surprised??
08:37 PM on 09/15/2011
And if the USA shafts Israel, and the hatred towards the USA drops sharply as a result of that Very Public Shafting, will you be astonished?
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alterego55
Flash your citations or leave!
12:15 PM on 09/16/2011
And, we have to close our bases in the Middle East.
01:22 PM on 09/15/2011
It's their land...it was TAKEN from them after WWII and they have EVERY RIGHT to have their land and country back...Let us remember they TOOK the land from palestine to CREATE Isreal. And Isreal had and has no real claim to this land. It is theirs and theirs alone. Let them become a country they were the ones kicked out and abused and now since the US is the puppet of Isreal they are moving against the rightful heirs and people of this land. Let them have their election and let them be...
01:53 PM on 09/15/2011
Thank you for the badge =) I see the truth and I speak it.
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glorybe1929
02:14 PM on 09/15/2011
Everything you said Is BS. They fought a war to claim that right and it is theirs to keep. The Palestinians may go find a new land, like everyone in America did. We are originally from all over the world. What's with their," this IS mine deal??"
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Gracie fr
02:47 PM on 09/15/2011
European Jewry immigrated to Israel. The Palestinians were already there and displaced by the hundreds of thousands in 1948....
04:05 PM on 09/15/2011
Excuse me? Have you not learned history? hell even if you just watch the history channel you would know this...but here is a cliffs note text version of what happened

Formation of Israel

The Holocaust, the killing of approximately 6 million European Jews by the Nazis, had a major impact on the situation in Palestine. During World War II Britain, which had been granted a mandate over Palestine by the United Nations, forbade entry into Palestine for European Jews escaping Nazi persecution.

On November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favor of a Partition Plan that created the State of Israel. The British reliquished their mandate over Palestine in 1948. War broke out between the Arabs and Jews soon after. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, established the state of Israel as an independent state, with the rest of the British Mandate of Palestine split into areas controlled by Egypt and Transjordan.

In 1949, Israel signed separate cease-fire agreements with Egypt on February 24, Lebanon on March 23, Transjordan on April 3, and Syria on July 20. Israel was able to draw its own borders, occupying 70% of Mandatory Palestine, fifty percent more than the UN partition proposal allotted them. These borders have been known afterwards as the "Green Line". The Gaza Strip and West Bank were occupied by Egypt and Transjordan respectively.
12:47 PM on 09/15/2011
Why should the Palestinians believe anything that comes out of Dennis Ross's mouth and what kind of idiot would sent Ross to talk to the Palestinians in the first place. He's Israel's lawyer in the Obama adimistration. What foolishness.
01:27 PM on 09/15/2011
In the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Dennis Ross is the Israeli fuel for stoking the fire of hatred. His presence is detrimental to the Palestinians and to the US long term interests in the Middle East. He should be removed immediately.
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02:36 PM on 09/15/2011
Why? Because Ross is Jewish? So what. George Mitchell is of Lebanese ancestory. Were you crying foul about him too?
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Want2knowY
05:14 PM on 09/15/2011
Profound.
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Boduognat
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate.
12:40 PM on 09/15/2011
Once upon a time there lived a vain Emperor whose only worry in life was to dress in elegant clothes.

He changed clothes almost every hour and loved to show them off to his people...

And he lived happily ever after.
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anton123
03:26 PM on 09/15/2011
Too much grass today? ;-)
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Boduognat
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'entrate.
05:39 PM on 09/15/2011
Well, now that you mention it, it seems that the subsequent Israeli Governments have used something different than a mere joint.

A cocktail of speed, crack smack, LSD, steroids, crystalmeth and PCP seems likely.

But grass is not one of them.

At least, if you know the effects it has...

Peace, brother..
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12:10 PM on 09/15/2011
we are all hamsters on neocon "financially engineered" wheels...

Israel's "lawfare" against the Palestinian people

"What Israel has been negotiating over with the Palestinians is the form, the terms, and the extent to which Palestinians must recognise its rights without equivocation. It is this reality that has characterised the last two decades of negotiations with the Palestinians. Negotiations will never restore the internationally-recognised rights of the Palestinians; on the contrary, the negotiations that the Palestinians entered with Israel two decades ago are ones wherein one party, the Palestinians, must surrender all their internationally recognised rights and recognise instead Israel's self-arrogated rights, which are not recognised by international law or any other country for that matter.

Sixty-three years after the establishment of the Jewish settler-colony, this Palestinian act will not only lend the first international legitimacy to Israeli claims, it will constitute in effect nothing less than the first international recognition of Israel's self-arrogated rights. Israel need give up nothing in return."

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/05/20115684218533873.html
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anton123
03:26 PM on 09/15/2011
You such a hard propaganda worker.
So pity that nobody takes you seriously :-)
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07:26 PM on 09/15/2011
you have 1,290 posts & 60 fans

i have 300 posts and 147 fans

math is clearly not your strong point.

i am an American concerned ONLY about the welfare of my country.

you are an israeli with no concern for America except how neocons can use it as a tool.

you cannot address the content of my posts so you repeatedly launch personal attacks in your multitudinous posts. hasbara 101.
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11:35 AM on 09/15/2011
we are all hamsters on neocon "financially engineered" and "financially innovated" wheels

"Benjamin Netanyahu, 9 years ago -- thinking there is no record -- explains his actually strategy to inflict pain on the Palestinians. He also describes how easy it is to manipulate the US, and how he made sure that the Oslo Accords would mean nothing.

First he says that the plan for the Palestinians is to:

hit them hard. Not just one hit... but many painful [hits], so that the price will be unbearable. The price is not unbearable, now. A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing ... fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...

The woman Natanyahu is speaking to wonders if the world won't object to what Israel is doing to the occupied Palestinians (she uses the word occupiers herself. He says the world will say nothing, just that Israel is defending itself. As for the US...

“I know what America is. America is a thing that can be easily moved, moved in the right direction... Let's suppose that they [the Americans] will say something [i.e. to us Israelis] ... so they say it...” [i.e. so what?]"

http://crooksandliars.com/ian-welsh/israeli-pm-natanyahu-america-easily-move
11:34 AM on 09/15/2011
The American Left has jumped onto the bandwagon fueled by Saudi oil money. Racist Wahabbi Saudis have already bought hundreds of college campuses, stocking Middle East Studies departments with Muslim Brotherhood FRONT vetted people who agitate and promote extreme right wing Caliphate interests.

The MB has SILENCED our MODERATE MUSLIM brothers and sisters and we foolishly support them.
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Gracie fr
01:23 PM on 09/15/2011
A cut and paste from Robert Spenser's blog.....???
01:28 PM on 09/15/2011
HUH???? Do you even know what you are talking about? Do you have ANY idea how these people were KICKED out of their home land (their before jesus their when moses was alive there for a hell of a long time) then after WWII the "ALLIES" took land that was under "ENGLISH" control kicked out the Palestinians and gave them THEIR land to create the the country of Isreal....Now tell me does this sounds ODDLY like what the Germans did to the "jews" in and before WWII yeah so it was bad for the germans to do it to them but was ok for the WORLD to do it to Palestine...This is THEIR LAND this is THEIR HOME not the "jews" they never had land and this was never ment for them. The US is being puppeted by Isreal and we just seem to love it...So learn your history read your bible and open your eyes and STOP FLAPPIN' YOUR GOB IF YOU DON'Y KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!
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Gracie fr
02:44 PM on 09/15/2011
But I agree with you totally and was replying to chai walla's post....
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Want2knowY
05:21 PM on 09/15/2011
"­Now tell me does this sounds ODDLY like what the Germans did to the "jews" in and before WWII."

Edwina, this is really beneath you. Are the Israelis sending millions of Palestinians to death camps? Are hundereds of thousands of Palestinians dying of hunger, disease and ill treatment? Are there millions fewer Palestinians in the world today than there were 60-70 years ago? Is the reason you make sure a foolish comparison because you want to use the holocaust as a weapon by which to taunt Jews? If so, you must know that you are an anti-semite.
11:24 AM on 09/15/2011
If the following wasn't so sad, it would be laughable:

Dennis Ross, ex AIPAC member and former chair of the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute is sent by the US as a part of a high level team to address the Palestinian statehood issue.

If this doesn't demonstrate AIPAC's control over American ME policy nothing will.

When the world community isolates itself from the US, Americans can only blame ourselves for allowing our administration to chose a path of self-destruction.
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10:56 AM on 09/15/2011
we are all hamsters on neocon "financially engineered" and "financially innovated" wheels

Ehud Olmert's aides on Wednesday said that the prime minister stood by his claim that his intervention made the US abstain from last Thursday's UN Security Council resolution vote on a Gaza cease-fire.

During a speech to local authority heads in Ashkelon on Monday, Olmert had said that Rice had been embarrassed when she was ordered to back down from supporting the resolution she had prepared, after Olmert intervened with Bush.

Olmert said he had called Bush and interrupted his Philadelphia lecture to ensure that the US did not vote for the resolution.

"I said: 'Get me President Bush on the phone,'" Olmert said. "They said he was in the middle of giving a speech in Philadelphia. I said I didn't care: 'I need to talk to him now.' He got off the podium and spoke to me."

According to Olmert, he told Bush that the US should not vote for the resolution, and Bush then directed Rice to abstain.

"She was left pretty embarrassed," Olmert said.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=129172
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grittyreboot
LOLitical activist
10:54 AM on 09/15/2011
Something about the words "diplomatic" and "offensive" right next to each other that doesn't sound quite right.
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10:42 AM on 09/15/2011
we are all hamsters on neocon "financially engineered" and "financially innovated" wheels

"In the case of Israel, the self-image of its leading politicians is far more crazed and split than such common-sense reminders can hope to remedy. Tzipi Livni says in 2009 that the assault was necessary, that it is going according to design, that there is no humanitarian crisis, and that the invasion will be good for the Palestinians.

Yet Ehud Barak in 1999, in answer to a question from the reporter Gideon Levy about what he would have done if he had been born Palestinian, replied without pause: "Joined a fighting organization."

Ehud Olmert says in a daring interview in his penultimate season in office that there will have to be a two-state solution and that Israel will have to give up a large part of the settlements it now holds. Yet Olmert devotes his final weeks in power to the merciless waging of this war, and refuses to convene his cabinet to take up the encouragement of a cease-fire"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/self-deception-and-the-as_b_158486.html
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anton123
11:01 AM on 09/15/2011
Hey hamster - are you working extra hamster hours today?
Did you oil your propaganda wheel?
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11:38 AM on 09/15/2011
if that's what you consider "QUOTING" neocon leaders, then sure.
10:40 AM on 09/15/2011
As many other posters have pointed out, it is VERY ironic to refer to the declaration and recognition of a palestinian state as "unilateral". The VAST majority of nations on earth, and dare I say the majority of people even in the nations that supposedly oppose it are supportive of this move and consider it long overdue.

Rather, it seems to me that it is DEMANDED by just about the entire world, with the exception of radicals in Israel and their supporters in a few (but hardly all) western nations.
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10:17 AM on 09/15/2011
we are all hamsters on neocon "financially engineered" and "financially innovated" wheels

"The Administration should make a conscious effort to move away from public demands and unilateral deadlines directed at Israel"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/15/aipac-lashes-out-at-obama_n_498947.html

Progressive Hero Alan Grayson’s Secret Life As An AIPAC Tool

http://maxblumenthal.com/2009/12/progressive-hero-alan-graysons-secret-life-as-an-aipac-tool/

New York - Rep. Weiner: Cut Palestinian Aid Until They Join Peace Talks

http://www.vosizneias.com/46374/2010/01/06/new-york-rep-weiner-cut-palestinian-aid-until-they-join-peace-talks

we learned Weiner is a tool.

We can never forget Jane Harmon literally works for AIPAC and just happens to be the 3rd wealthiest Congress member:

"Rep. Jane Harman , the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent that she would lobby the Justice Department reduce espionage-related charges against two officials of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, the most powerful pro-Israel organization in Washington.

Harman was recorded saying she would "waddle into" the AIPAC case "if you think it'll make a difference," according to two former senior national security officials familiar with the NSA transcript."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/jane-harman-recorded-on-w_n_188795.html