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Palestine Statehood Bid: Obama's U.N. Visit Could Bring Another Troubled Middle East Moment

Palestine Statehood Bid Obama Un Visit

By BEN FELLER   09/17/11 11:38 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- Dreaming big, President Barack Obama once envisioned this would be the moment when world leaders would gather to herald a new state of Palestine.

What waits for him instead at the United Nations this coming week is closer to a diplomatic nightmare that may isolate the United States, anger Congress, deepen the Mideast divide and cloud the rest of his agenda.

Fed up with failed talks with Israel, Palestinians plan to appeal directly to the U.N. for statehood. Obama is adamant that that approach will undermine the chances of a Palestinian state by ignoring the unresolved issues with Israel. So now he is in the unenviable spot of opposing an effort whose goals he supports and he's nearly standing alone in doing so.

From the U.S. perspective, the options are not good.

Should the Palestinians press their case for full U.N. membership to the Security Council, as seems likely, the U.S. will veto it.

If the Palestinians go before the General Assembly for a lesser but still elevated form of member recognition, the U.S. lacks a veto there and will simply vote against it, placing it firmly in the minority and perhaps inflaming the Arab world.

American diplomats were making a furious effort to sway the Palestinians to drop their bid and restart talks with Israel over borders and security. But as the time grew short ahead of Obama's scheduled arrival in New York on Monday, his administration already was trying look beyond any U.N. action in hopes of influencing whatever comes next.

"This is lose, lose, lose," said Andrew Exum, a senior fellow with the Center for a New American Security. "A resolution before the U.N. Security Council will hurt the United States with the Arabic-speaking world if Obama is seen as standing in the way. The Israeli government and the state of Israel will feel more isolated. And Palestinian frustration will only grow."

That frustration is surely felt at the White House, too.

Obama is facing questions about his commitment to Israel and his support among Jewish voters despite a record of support for Israel that analysts say has been strong and fair.

He has not been able to sway Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to abandon a bid that Obama calls a distraction. Members of Congress are angry about what they see as the Palestinians' end-run around Israel and warning of intervening themselves. The world has watched as Obama's domestic fights with lawmakers have undermined the standing of them all.

"There's no question that he comes in with a perception, globally, that his hands are tied," said Shibley Telhami, a scholar of Middle East policy and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

On the sidelines of the gathering, Obama will meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in hopes of finding a way to restart Mideast negotiations. The White House said it had no such talks to announce with Abbas.

Even if the U.N. action on the Palestinian bid takes place after Obama departs New York, it is already casting a shadow over his broader message.

Over a busy stretch of meetings and speeches on Tuesday and Wednesday, Obama will give attention to the uprisings that have tossed aside dictators and sped hope for democracy across North Africa and the Middle East. The president and the U.N. itself want to hold up the international intervention in Libya as a success story of unity and strategic might.

Yet Obama steps back on the world stage under the weight of Mideast peace expectations that he himself set with his U.N. address of last year.

"We should reach for what's best within ourselves," Obama said last September in pushing for negotiated agreement on a sovereign Palestinian state. "If we do, when we come back here next year, we can have an agreement that will lead to a new member of the United Nations."

Instead, Israeli-Palestinian talks collapsed.

Obama tried in May to inject some life by spelling out terms that could get both sides back to talking. He endorsed ironclad Israeli security and an independent Palestine that would be on the borders that existed before the 1967 war, in which Israel occupied East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza, as adjusted by land swaps agreed upon by both sides.

Obama intends to stick with those principles and keep pushing for direct talks.

U.S. and European diplomats have been scrambling for the past week to craft a formula to bring the two sides together and avert the U.N. showdown. Their efforts have thus far come to naught. But envoys from the international group of Mideast negotiators – the U.S., the U.N., Russia and the European Union – planned to meet again Sunday in New York.

"It's a hard problem that's taken, of course, decades to address," deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said. "But I think our fundamental message is going to be if you support Palestinian aspirations, if you support a Palestinian state, the way to accomplish that is through negotiations with Israel."

Most member-states at the U.N. hold such strong views on the Palestinian pursuit of statehood that it is hard to see how a speech by Obama will make much of a difference, said Mark Quarterman, a former U.N. official who studies global response to crises at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

"There might be frustration, but no shame, in not making the progress you think you should make," he said. "The problem is now the Palestinians seem to have lost patience and are moving forward through another avenue. It's not a diminishment of the United States. It is a difficult process is moving very slowly for a variety of reasons, some of which the United States has very little control over."

Obama will address the world body on Wednesday.

He told a group of reporters recently that the fundamental challenge is the same: Neither side has made the compromises necessary to achieve peace.

"This issue is only going to be resolved by Israelis and Palestinians agreeing to something," he said. "What happens in New York City can occupy a lot of press attention, but it's not going to actually change what's happening on the ground."

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06:32 PM on 09/21/2011
This article is very disingenous; either that or wholly ignorant. Palestinians have no concessions to make. They are not the occupier, Israel is. Palestinians, including Hamas (as well as the whole Arab League, which votes yearly on this very issue), have already agreed to a ceasefire/making peace with Israel (and in the case of the Arab League, even full diplomatic relations with Israel) IF Israel would obey UN resolutions and international law and return to the pre-'67 borders. Israel simply refuses to do this. THAT is what the problem is, NOT that Palestinians need to concede that which they don't have. It's about land and always has been. And Palestinians are tired of talking and "negotiating" for 44+ years while Israel and America and a couple island nations that vote with them in the UN (Palau, Micronesia, etc., that get aid from America and Israel) make a pretense at trying to solve this supposedly insolvable puzzle. It's quite simple, actually, and always has been. Israel should return to the '67 borders and obey international lay, and America should stop supporting Israel's violation of international law. That means America needs to stop sending weapons and bulldozers to Israel that Israel uses to brutalize the Palestinina poeple, all the while incrementally stealing their land.
11:57 PM on 09/21/2011
67 lines were not borders, they were armistice lines. International law does not require Israel to withdraw to these lines. Res. 242 specifically says "territories" not THE territory for a reason. It also calls for clear and recognized borders to be ESTABLISHED between the parties. Israel will not be going back to the 67 armistice lines. My family bleed all ready once defending it, there will not be a second time.
06:44 AM on 09/22/2011
Yes, "territories," meaning ALL territories Israel occupied in the '67 war: The West Bank including E. Jerusalem, Gaza, the Golan Heights. So, not sure what your point is w/r/t UN Resolution 242 saying "territories" vs. "territory." And "borders" vs. "armistice" lines is semantics as well. Palestine can't have official borders until Palestinians are allowed to have a state of their own land, which Israel and the US have thus far prevented. So, Israel needs to return to the "armistice line"--the Green Line, and end its illegal occupation. The whole world agrees it's an illegal occupation and that Israel is violating international law--the Fourth Geneva Conventions--on a daily basis--every time Israel bulldozes a Palestinian home, confiscates Palestinian land, moves Israeli citizens onto occupied land, destroys olive and other fruit trees/agriculture, confiscates the water, etc. Maybe your family should learn to stop coveting and taking what does not belong to them. Then the bleeding on both sides will stop (which is far heavier on the Palestinian side due to Israel's disproportionate use of force). And exactly how does one "establish" borders when one side continues to steal land (courtesty of American aid and weapons), and the other side is awakened in the middle of the night and told it has 15 minutes to get out of their house at 5 a.m. before its bulldozed to the ground by those with the weapons and the tanks? Nice value system you got going on there.
07:32 AM on 09/23/2011
Israel's High Court also ruled that parts of the separation wall (that 30' monstrosity that Israel built literally through the middle of Palestinian living rooms and crops on occupied land) was illegal. Last I heard, Israel has yet to obey the ruling of the court and tear down those sections of the wall. Your government and soldiers pretty much do whatever the **** they want. Also, the International Court of Justice ruled the wall was illegal and violated the rights of Palestinians.
06:16 PM on 09/21/2011
Members of Congress are angry at Palestinians for asserting their most basic human rights!? Gee, imagine the kind of anger Palestinians must feel when they pick up a white phosphorus shell off the ground that burned their house or their child to a 2200-degree crisp, that says: "Made in the USA." According to Amnesty International and HRW, these chemical weapons used in Operation Cast Lead were gifts from America--which always can be counted on to promote democracy around the world when deemed beneficial to American financial interests and goals, and quash democracy where America sees it as not being in America's interests. So much for all that talk about America safeguarding human rights around the world. Certainly not the human rights of Palestinians, which America violates every day with its money and weapons and words and UN vetos and congressional resolutions.
05:50 PM on 09/21/2011
All you have to do is look at the picture--the faces--to figure out which one (and his people) has been historically stomped on and which one gets his way every single time (that perpetual look of smugness, knowing America is firmly in its pocket). And then there is the one in the middle, the moral coward, who once spoke so eloquently in his book about human rights and the evils of western imperialism. Long gone are those days, the days of "Nobody has suffered like the Palestian people" (if not verbatim, close) and meeting with the Palesintian-American community in Chicago. Now it's "Greenlight the weapons to Israel, veto every UN resolution condemning Israel's war crimes against Palestinians, condemn the UN Goldstone Report findings (and thus Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc., findings), and endlessly support resolutions in Congress praising Israeli aggression and violation of Palestinians' human rights, all the while selling to ignorant and uniformed America that this is what it means for "Israel has a right to defend itself." Since when does defending yourself include building a 30-foot wall through your neighbor's house and land, coming with a bulldozer in the middle of the night to bulldoze your neighbor's home, and intentionally firing the chemical weapon white phosphorus on civilians (all shells made in the USA, I might add).
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09:33 PM on 09/20/2011
Forget playing the Israeli Card against Obama!
Israeli Defense Minister and former Prime Minister Ehud Barak on Pierce Morgan was asked to comment on Rick Perry's claims Obama was not concerned on Israeli security and Ehud replied,"President Obama has shown support for Israel MORE than any recent President and that President Obama is a friend of Israel." Now shout it to the masses.
07:04 AM on 09/20/2011
Too bad should of thought of that before supporting Israel unconditionally.
08:08 PM on 09/19/2011
Pres. Obama, just say no to Israel, cut the cord
03:10 PM on 09/19/2011
Negotiatio­ns are the best way to secure borders, not to create a state. Negotiations have been at a standstill for quite a long time now.
Appealing to the UN might be the best way for the creation of a state but not for securing borders.
Appealing to the UN and negotiations are just 2 different steps in a process. Securing the borders doesn't need to be done necessarily prior to the creation of a state.

The fact that the Palestinians once having a state could then be able to go to the International Court of Justice cannot be called a distraction, can it ?
02:13 PM on 09/19/2011
BETRAYAL: is the breaking or violation of a trust or confidence that produces moral and psychological conflict within a relationship. Ed Koch, life long member of the democratic party, former congressman and former mayor of New York City together with members of AIPAC, openly supported the republican candidate (and winner) of New York's recent congressional run off.

The reason, to punish Obama for his support of using pre1967 borders in the Israeli Palestinian conflict.

Koch and company betrayed the entire democratic party for the sole purpose of advancing the interests of a foreign country.
03:14 PM on 09/19/2011
I say he has character for standing up for what he believes and putting his support for his country over his support for a political party.. too bad more people on both sides are not willingto do that.
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Talab
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05:57 PM on 09/19/2011
Too bad the country he's supporting isn't America huh
02:06 PM on 09/19/2011
Peace talks and negotiations between Israel and Palestine, generally hosted by the U.S., have been pretty fruitless over the past few decades. Statehood may give another mediator to a peace process. It could also potentially introduce alternative forms of international justice into the equation that at least the U.S. has been immune to, the International Criminal Court for example. I hope that Palestine gets statehood, sooner than later.
03:15 PM on 09/19/2011
support terrorism if you wish.
05:02 PM on 09/19/2011
http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht/display/ContentDetails/i/30886/pid/895

whose being bad children?
10:48 PM on 09/19/2011
Once a state, the so-called terrorists would be called soldiers...
01:29 PM on 09/19/2011
Maybe BHO will defect to Iran.
06:46 AM on 09/20/2011
More like Israel since he'll be using his veto to protect Israel not Iran, is reading an article that hard?
12:37 PM on 09/19/2011
I suggest that the greater the problems created for the United States by the actions of Palestine are directly proportional to the incorrectness of the US positions. Said another way, if you behave correctly you have nothing to fear and far fewer problems.
12:27 PM on 09/19/2011
But the US is an honest broker so how could there be a problem? Bed - made - lie. LOL.
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11:53 AM on 09/19/2011
Latifa Abu Hmeid was given the honour by the Palestinian Authority and chosen to launch their statehood campaign with the UN.
What did Latifa Abu Hmeid do to deserve that honour? She is the mother of 4 terrorist murderers no sitting in Israeli jails.

Nasser Abu Hmeid - 7 life sentences + 50 years - commander in Fatah's military wing the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades in Ramallah. Convicted of killing seven Israeli civilians and 12 attempted murders.

Nasr Abu Hmeid - 5 life sentences - Member of terror faction of Fatah, Tanzim, and convicted of involvement in two terror attacks and arms dealing.

Sharif Abu Hmeid - 4 life sentences - a member in one of the brothers' units carrying out terror attacks against civilians and soldiers. Accompanied a suicide bomber to his attack in March 2002.

Muhammad Abu Hmeid - 2 life sentences + 30 years - involvement in terror attacks.

A fifth son, Abd Al-Mun'im Muhammad Yusuf Naji Abu Hmeid, the one referred to as "Martyr," was a member of the military wing of Hamas, Izz A-Din Al-Qassam Brigades, and planned and carried out the ambush and murder of an Israeli intelligence officer.
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12:19 PM on 09/19/2011
That is pretty sick and twisted, can't say I'm surprised though.
01:32 PM on 09/19/2011
Deir Yassin Massacre, led by Menachem Begin and carried out by Begin's Irgun Zvei Leumi: Red Cross delegation visited Deir Yassin on April 11, 1948 and observed "a total of more than 200 dead, men, women, and children. An Irgun fighter testified years later that Irgun and Lehi men had killed 80 prisoners after the fighting was over. Begin was rewarded for his actions by being elected Prime Minister of Israel.

Following the killing of eleven Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972, at least 200 people, almost all civilians, were killed in Israeli "reprisal" raids in Syria alone. David Hirst, The Gun and the Olive Branch (London: Futura, 1978), 251-252.

For every so-called Palestinian committed atrocity, I can give you two committed by Israelis with ten times the casualties.
Rosin the Bow
Hail to the Victors Valiant
02:19 PM on 09/19/2011
So what? That doesn't make Palestinian atrocities OK
02:54 PM on 09/19/2011
Except your "atrocities" are a bunch of lies. Begin did not lead anyone at Deir Yassin for he wasn't even AT Deir Yassin.

And you cite some obscure reference to a book written by a biased author of proof that Israel purposefully killed 200 "almost all civilians"? Please give us a break.
11:46 AM on 09/19/2011
Well this will have to pass by Mayor Koch first after all he now is the representive to the Likud here and from his weekend comments is entrusted with the direction of the Jewish Vote..
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SaneUSA
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11:51 AM on 09/19/2011
Lame.
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12:53 PM on 09/19/2011
LOL
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10:34 AM on 09/19/2011
They hate Palestinians. The quotes from the Israeli leaders betray the doublespeak shown on Memri. Memri is believe me or not funded by the US.
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02:42 PM on 09/19/2011
That's odd. Because others on here continually say that anything on Memri depicting Arabs/Muslims cannot be believed because it is US funded. You know. The thousands of videos exposing the absolute hatred for Israel, Jews and Westerners that infests the governments and citizens of these ME countries. The translations are attacked, the filming, you name it. Classic 'The Emperor has no Clothes' scenario.
"Those little Palestinian kids in Kindergarten didn't really just say that Jews are pigs and monkeys......" You are imagining it!! Or, they doctored the tape. Or, they translated it wrong".
06:37 PM on 09/21/2011
Kind of like Israeli school textbooks are prevented from any mention of what the Zionists did to the native Palestinian Arabs during the Naqba. Just pretend it didn't happen.
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02:53 PM on 09/19/2011
NO!! Really!?!?! Wow, without your revelation we would have never known!

Thank you!