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Pittsburgh, Syracuse Apply To Join ACC: AP Source (VIDEO)

AARON BEARD   09/18/11 12:50 AM ET   AP

The Atlantic Coast Conference has received application letters from Pittsburgh and Syracuse to join the league, a move that would leave the Big East scrambling to replace two of its longest tenured members.

Florida State President Eric Barron told The Associated Press on Saturday before the Seminoles played No. 1 Oklahoma that the ACC was excited about adding to its "northern tier."

"Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who have applied, these are solid academic schools, and the ACC is a truly academic conference," Barron said. "Certainly great basketball teams, a good history of football.

"I'm sure consideration will be very fast. I'll be surprised if it's not tomorrow (Sunday)."

Late Saturday night league officials announced a 9:30 a.m. ET Sunday teleconference but did not disclose the subject of the call.

Barron confirmed that 11 of 12 ACC presidents attended a meeting in Greensboro, N.C., on Tuesday – the other participated by phone – and unanimously approved raising the exit fee to $20 million – up from $12 million to $14 million – for any member leaving the conference.

"The great thing is that the conference is strong and committed to a unanimous commitment to staying together," North Carolina State Chancellor Randy Woodson said. "And to the extent that this is kind of a dramatic shift in conferences, we're trying to be proactive and stay strong."

The Big East's exit fee is $5 million, though schools wanting to leave must provide 27 months' notice.

A jump by Pittsburgh and Syracuse could lead to another dramatic shuffle in college athletics. Texas A&M already has announced its intention to join the Southeastern Conference, leaving the future of the Big 12 in doubt. The board of regents at Oklahoma and Texas are meeting Monday to discuss the possibility of the universities leaving that conference.

Big East spokesman John Paquette declined to comment on the possible defections. Pittsburgh spokesman E.J. Borghetti said athletic director Steve Pederson also wouldn't comment. Syracuse AD Daryl Gross also declined comment.

Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich said he believed the departures were a done deal.

"I think it was kind of a shock to everybody," he said. "We'll have to work around it. ... There was a lot of tradition in both programs. They brought a lot to the Big East. We'll pick up the pieces and surround ourselves with other teams that are out there. We all have to follow the landscape."

If the move goes forward, Pittsburgh and Syracuse would become the fourth and fifth schools to leave the Big East for the ACC in the past decade. Virginia Tech and Miami joined in 2004, and Boston College followed a year later as the ACC's 12th member.

Syracuse is a founding member of the Big East, and Pittsburgh joined the league in 1982.

News of a possible Big East upheaval came on the heels of the death of its founder, Dave Gavitt, who died Friday night after a long illness.

North Carolina athletic director Dick Baddour said the ACC created a committee last year of athletic directors, university presidents and faculty athletic representatives to examine possible scenarios of both expansion and defections. Baddour, one of the four athletic directors on the committee, wouldn't reveal specifics of those discussions nor comment specifically on Syracuse and Pittsburgh.

"If you think about this nationally, it's obvious that the world is turning upside down and you want the ACC ... to be in a position where we are strong in all areas, that all of our sports are strong, that our television packages are strong as well," Baddour said shortly before kickoff of the Virginia-North Carolina game.

Speaking on a pregame radio show, Virginia Tech athletic director Jim Weaver said: "We want to move forward and be the best we can be, and that's what we're going to do."

The New York Times first reported news of the talks involving the ACC on Friday, and CBSSports.com first reported Saturday the schools had filed applications with the ACC.

Until now, the focus of this most recent round of conference realignment had been on the Big 12, with the board of regents at Oklahoma and Texas meeting Monday to discuss their conference futures. Oklahoma could be heading to the Pac-12 and taking Oklahoma State with it. Texas has stated its desire to keep the Big 12 together, but the Pac-12 could be an option as well as football independence, a la Notre Dame, which competes in the Big East in all other sports.

Pac-12 Commissioner Larry Scott attended 23rd-ranked Texas' meeting with UCLA at the Rose Bowl on Saturday, but said he had no plans to meet with Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds or President Bill Powers.

Scott talked with Texas, Oklahoma and several other Big 12 teams last year while his conference added Utah and Colorado, signing a massive television contract along the way.

Scott reiterated the Pac-12's stance on expansion: The conference is "not being proactive," but has been approached by universities and is willing to consider growing again. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State have been linked with a Pac-12 move for several weeks, and Scott has confirmed several unidentified schools recently approached him for preliminary discussions.

"I'm surprised there's been so much activity so quickly," Scott said, alluding to the upheaval in conference alignment talks the past few weeks. "There's been a lot of transition in a short time."

Scott said no school has applied for admission to the Pac-12, but also said the conference has no formal application policy.

There also have been reports linking Texas to the ACC, a move that likely would include Texas Tech.

When the Big Ten was looking to expand last summer, there was plenty of speculation about Big East schools on the Big Ten's target list.

But the Big Ten added only Nebraska (from the Big 12). A few months later the Big East announced TCU from the Mountain West Conference was joining the league in 2012 as its ninth football member and 17th overall.

"Nothing ... surprises me because it's been happening, the rumors have been going on for weeks now of who's going to where," TCU AD Chris Del Conte said.

The Big East was close to signing a contract extension for its television rights with ESPN this year, walking away from a nine-year deal that reportedly was worth about $1 billion.

Big East Commissioner John Marinatto said in August that the Big East felt it was in a position of strength as the last major football conference to negotiate a deal because there would be more bidders on the market with NBC expanding its cable presence and Fox becoming more involved in college football.

The Big East's situation is tricky because of seven nonfootball members – such as Georgetown and Villanova – that help make it one of the nation's strongest basketball conferences. The basketball schools and football schools often have different agendas. But losing Pitt and Syracuse would be a huge blow to Big East basketball as well as football.

The other football-playing members of the Big East are Rutgers, Connecticut, Louisville, South Florida and Cincinnati.

There already has been speculation that West Virginia would be a target for the SEC to balance out that conference and grow to 14 members if and when Texas A&M finally joins.

The ACC would end up with 14 members if it adds Syracuse and Pitt, but 16 might make more sense. Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany has said his league is set with 12, but could reconsider if other conferences make additions.

It seems likely that the latest news about conference realignment won't be the last.

"I think some things will take shape in the near future," Weaver said.

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AP College Football Writer Ralph D. Russo in Tallahassee, Fla., AP Sports Writers Luke Meredith in Iowa City, Iowa; Jaime Aron in Fort Worth, Texas; Joedy McCreary in Raleigh, N.C.; Hank Kurz in Blacksburg, Va.; Beth Rucker in Lexington, Ky., and Greg Beacham in Pasadena, Calif., contributed to this report.

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06:58 AM on 09/18/2011
It's so funny that after so much talk about TX and OK, SYR and PITT, both losers SAT, are going down in history!
The ACC + Big East theory doesn't make sense, because do you want a 20-team conference?
So we are getting unregulated, free market invisible hand stuff!
ACC took SYR and PITT as second or third choices because why wait for TX , which  might stall as the jackals of the SEC, Big 10, or whatever picks it clean?
The Big East Basketball Theory is like a direct-to-DVD movie. Football is king of college sports.
Big East needs to put together 8 to 12 pretty good football schools, with flexible geography.
Seton Hall, DePaul, and Providence do not belong in a major conference with BCS football.  Is that mean? Is the unregulated free market mean?
11:16 PM on 09/17/2011
Take your Yankee schools and keep them in the "Big" East. Duke and UNC can keep ACC basketball where they need to be without any help.
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Mike Clark II
memphis, journalism major. nuff said
10:23 PM on 09/17/2011
ok this is what i say: let the big east and the ACC COMBINE! there are rumors the big east wants my school (U OF MEMPHIS) and if they join the big east, which will merge with the ACC? OH GOD! THE ACC WOULD HAVE SOME MAJOR BASKETBALL POWERS!!!!!!
11:10 PM on 09/17/2011
You ever heard of Duke and UNC???? We don't need any more lame Big East schools bringing down the ACC.
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Mike Clark II
memphis, journalism major. nuff said
08:35 AM on 09/18/2011
just do not insult my school! and duke and UNC are 2 of the former NCAA basketball champions, right?
10:15 PM on 09/17/2011
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
10:11 PM on 09/17/2011
As a big uconn fan, i can tell you this is not going to sit well with other big east schools like georgetown and villanova. Its all about the money. Screw tradition and loyalty. After boston college left the conference,it caused alot of hard feelings. Now the big east will have to invite baylor and iowa state to fill the void..what a joke....i guess football is king but basketball is better
01:55 AM on 09/18/2011
There is always Kansas, the Big East is a weak football conference, and with the Big 12 falling apart, Kansas might be a good invite. The SEC probably won't want them because they are not a strong football school, and the Pac-12 won't take them. So the Big East makes sense.
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Quotidien
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08:46 PM on 09/17/2011
Football is the money making beast...dragging Basketball along with it.

Syracuse is the face of the Big East. This will be sad.
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08:23 PM on 09/17/2011
All pretense that collegiate athletics is amateur is gone NCAA basketball and football are professional sports. When are we going to start paying these guys.
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10:37 PM on 09/17/2011
As soon as you can figure out a way to pay the girls.
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11:18 PM on 09/17/2011
Pay based on revenue earned not on some idealistic reasoning.
08:00 PM on 09/17/2011
"at least ten schools have reached out to the ACC"? Who? OK, eight more. West Va, ...?

I'd really like to see Vandy, Duke, Tulane, Army, Navy, Wake, BC, and Temple form a Power Ivy League with no football scholarships. Real amateur football from big strong schools with academic distinction. Lots of trick plays and cheerleaders with glasses!
07:08 PM on 09/17/2011
Pittsburgh and Syracuse aren't on the Atlantic Coast,it doesn't make sense. If they want to leave,join the Big Ten plus two.
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Jerald Lawson
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07:13 PM on 09/17/2011
Ever looked at a map? They are right next to the Atlantic coast. Closer than a lot of the teams in the ACC. You don't have to be right on the sand to be in the ACC.
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08:05 PM on 09/17/2011
Pittsburgh is close to the Atlantic coast? Need to check a map chief. Most of the ACC teams are within 100 miles of the coast.

But league names are nothing but semantics anyway.
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08:25 PM on 09/17/2011
Jerald you need a geography course I live in Syracuse and my parents live in Jersey. Syracuse is nowhere near the Atlantic coast.
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Quotidien
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08:47 PM on 09/17/2011
And the Toronto Blue Jays are in the American League...your point?
10:41 PM on 09/17/2011
NORTH American...
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10:48 PM on 09/17/2011
North America?
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goldengirl43
Older than dirt!
06:58 PM on 09/17/2011
Cannot stomach college football or basketball anymore. Just a racket as far as I'm concerned.
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ernie3
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06:26 PM on 09/17/2011
Big time college football has become such a racket.It has become as corrupt and phony as the Republican Party.
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benji85
06:44 PM on 09/17/2011
Watch the South Park episode Crack Babies, Cartman goes to a college AD to figure out how they get away with their "slavery."
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06:08 PM on 09/17/2011
Should have added that Pitt and Syracuse would further dilute the competition in the ACC.

The conference would be adding teams that in football will immediately compete with Duke and NC State for the cellar.

It's a bad move for the conference to make.
08:28 PM on 09/17/2011
You haven't been keeping up. Pitt has quality in both football and basketball and if Holgerson has his way will be in the top 25 within the next few years. Marrone has changed the culture at Syracuse and his kids will also be in the top 25 within the next few years. The basketball league will be unmatched. Pitt and Syracuse are wise to be proactive and the ACC will be happy to have them to reestablish the rivalries with the ex-Big East teams already there.
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11:30 PM on 09/17/2011
Syracuse just got blown out by a mediocre USC team that is working with limited scholarships and hamstrung recruiting.
Pitt just got beat by a limp Iowa that lost to Iowa State last week.

I dont think either team will actually be as bad as Duke in football (which by the way, I limited my observation to... football), but they aren't two quality football additions. They are lower tier football programs. As an aside, they are already in the strongest BB conference.

And please give the benefit of the doubt in terms of "keeping up."
05:32 PM on 09/17/2011
How about some tuition relief for the students?
04:23 PM on 09/17/2011
The loss of Syracuse would be no great loss to the Big East. Syracuse is a has been school, that cannot compete in the Big East. They are looking to move to a weak football conference, so they will look better to to the Alums, basketball has always been a secondary sport for Syracuse, even with a national championship they still only live for football.
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05:08 PM on 09/17/2011
Are you sure?
05:54 PM on 09/17/2011
Don't think so...
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04:10 PM on 09/17/2011
Ultimately it will devolve into four superconferences - the ACC, SEC, Big10, Pac12 - each comprised of 16-20 teams. The lesser teams will wind up wherever.

Interesting that the NCAA is just standing back idly not saying a word.
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04:17 PM on 09/17/2011
Yup, more like each Super conference will have 32 teams, and play 16 game schedules in football and 41 games in basketball.........

College athletics is a joke, which is why I no longer watch it
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05:56 PM on 09/17/2011
Man... I dont know. I don't see 16-game schedules though. That's the main argument the NCAA now throws up against a simple playoff, that it's too many games and takes away from studies.
05:48 PM on 09/17/2011
The schools outside of the six BCS conferences lose million on their athletic programs. If those schools are left over after the formation of the four 16 team superconferences, I suspect that many of them will just give up football rather than lose millions in money will being blown out repeatedly by schools from the big conferences.
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05:51 PM on 09/17/2011
or they can play in the fcs
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06:00 PM on 09/17/2011
Oh I know, Ive read the arguments. Exceptional, first-place teams outside the non-automatic qualifying (aq) conferences make *less* money actually playing in a bowl game than the really bad teams from AQ conferences make *not* playing in one because their conference makes a bundle when the champ gets in.