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Violent Crime In U.S. Drops For Fourth Consecutive Year

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First Posted: 09/19/11 06:20 PM ET Updated: 11/19/11 05:12 AM ET

Violent crime has declined across the country for the fourth consecutive year, new federal statistics indicate.

Murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault dropped six percent in 2010, according to FBI data. Property crime fell nearly 3 percent from 2009 numbers.

Those statistics, however, are questionable, former FBI agent Harold Copus told The Huffington Post. According to Copus, crime rises whenever the economy takes a dip.

"Bad guys do not participate in the down economy," said Copus, now head of Copus Security Consultants in Atlanta. "It is not like there is a board of directors meeting and they say, 'Listen, the economy is off, people are being laid off, we need to drop back on crime a little bit.' That doesn't happen. They just have to go and rob more people to make up for it."

The FBI said that the data, which is still preliminary, comes from more than 18,000 city, county, university, college, state, tribal and federal agencies. It is those agencies, and not the FBI, that skews the data, according to Copus.

"I am not going to say the stats aren't sent in that way, but you have to look behind the stats," he said. "I won't name names, but I know there are departments out there that will bundle their stats. For example, they may have seven or eight break-ins at a mall in a given day. They know they won't solve them, so they will write them all up as one incident instead of eight."

Though such break-ins wouldn't be classified as violent crime, they show one way in which crime statistics can be manipulated.

The reasoning? It is politically motivated, Copus said.

"It comes down to political pressure. Large stats make cities look bad and it impacts tourism and any number of things. So you may have a mayor who says, 'You keep turning in numbers like that, and I am going to lose my job -- but you'll lose yours first.'"

That narrative might sound familiar to fans of the television show "The Wire," where the accuracy of crime statistics in Baltimore were called into question. But the controversy isn't just the stuff of TV fiction.

Last year, the NYPD came under fire after a police captain was reportedly forced to step down for falsifying crime stats in an attempt to make crime rates in his precinct seem lower, according to the New York Post.

In police reports, New York City cops lessened the value of stolen objects to reduce the number of felonies and even tried to convince crime victims to not lodge complaints, retired officers told The New York Times in 2010.

The FBI is standing by its preliminary statistics, which the agency has presented in the 2010 edition of the FBI's annual report "Crime in the United States."

A spokesman for the FBI did not immediately return The Huffington Post's call for comment.

But Copus remains skeptical of the new numbers.

"Take them with a grain of salt," Copus said. "If you really want to gauge crime in your area, watch the news. You'll get a pretty good idea where things stand if you see one story after another about home invasions and other violent crimes."

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Violent crime has declined across the country for the fourth consecutive year, new federal statistics indicate. Murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault ...
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Jerry Bourbon
11:04 AM on 11/07/2011
Funny. We were PROMISED that if the ban on guns-that-look-like-real-assault-weapons were to expire, the streets would RUN WITH BLOOD!

What happened?
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Conlaw Bloganon
Ron Paul 2012!
10:57 AM on 09/28/2011
Meanwhile, crime in NYC (And likely also Chicago and California) is on the rise. Good thing they've got all those draconian gun laws to keep people safe, right? WRONG.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Cops-Seek-Suspect-Wanted-in-Subway-Robbery-Attempted-Robbery-130380803.html
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Conlaw Bloganon
Ron Paul 2012!
10:34 AM on 09/28/2011
Huh. A record high number of law-abiding Americans have bought guns and gotten a permit to carry over the past 4 years, and crime is down. Kind of the opposite of what the Brady Campaign said. But this phenomenon is exactly what we (law-abiding gun owners) and the statistics behind us have been saying all along.
Rexter
Question everything.
06:27 AM on 09/23/2011
"Has Violent Crime In The U.S. Really Dropped?"

Not really, the statistic only includes crime committed by citizens of the U.S. Illegal immigrant gang bangers were removed from the tally.

Statistics = Liars figure and figures lie.
07:19 PM on 09/21/2011
Several years ago In Dallas, the powers that be changed the method they used for reporting crime. They came up with this one for example: if an apartment complex had 6 cars broken into overnight, it was counted as 6 seperate crimes. It is now counted as one crime since it was in the same parking lot and occured at roughly the same time. This is nothing more than manipulating the numbers so they can go on the 6 o'clock news and tell the public what a great job the city is doing. I also had a Grand Prairie officer tell me that another reason that felony crime was down is because of changes in the law that took what were once felonies and made them misdemeanors. He told me this as he was taking my statement about my house being burglarized.
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dbrett480
01:39 AM on 09/21/2011
This is due to a combination of factors; better and more aggressive law enforcement tactics, crackdowns on gangs, use of technology in crime-solving, and most importantly more criminals in prison.
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
08:39 PM on 09/20/2011
Small, fast-moving pieces of metal about nine millimeters wide are one of the main reasons why violent crime decreases.
11:36 AM on 09/20/2011
You know, the censorship on this site is ridiculous and without reason. You can't even make an honest comment about crime statistics and what's gone on at the ground level from someone who has been in a position to observe things first-hand, without having it blocked for no good reason.
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Footwarrior
Progressive Apparatchik
10:58 AM on 09/20/2011
The US has two methods of determining crime rates. Incident reports from police agencies that are compiled into the Crime in the United states report and the National Crime Victim Survey. NCVS also shows a drop in violent crime over the last few years, indicating that the drop is real and not just underreporting of crime by our nation's police agencies.
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Jerry Bourbon
10:42 AM on 09/20/2011
We were told, nay we were PROMISED, that if the ban on certain guns-that-kinda-sorta-look-like-real-assault-weapons were lifted, and if Wisconsin enacted a "shall issue" concealed carry regime, and if Arizona stopped requiring permits entirely to concealed carry, then the streets of America would turn into RIVERS OF BLOOD!!!!!

What happened? Where is the blood?
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
08:31 PM on 09/20/2011
Shhhhhhh... it's invisible blood.
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
08:41 PM on 09/20/2011
[lifts scab on arm]

HERE IS THE BLOOD!
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JulezSD
10:27 AM on 09/20/2011
This guy says watch the news really the same people that has the slogan if it 'bleeds it leads'. The news loves to over hype some stuff and other stuff for some reason they miss. Here in San Diego a little infant kid named Jahi Marques Turner missing news media talked about it for two seconds but how long did they stay on the Aruba story? They have selective reporting and I for one will take with a grain of salt anything they say. People shouldn't base what they know on anything the media says cause they always have different standards on if and how they report.
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mackbolan
Libertas inaestimabilis res est
07:40 AM on 09/20/2011
if you look at the data violent crime like murder was double back in 1974...crime has been going down ever since and at the same time gun control has been dieing...in fact only one state now forbids the carry of concealed weapons...
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
08:41 PM on 09/20/2011
On the other hand, in the UK, violent crime has been increasing with gun control.
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SevenUPtheUNCOOLA
give me reproductive freedom or give me death
04:24 AM on 09/20/2011
violent crime is down? yet every day here there is a fresh horror story about murder suicide. maybe the stats are skewed.
09:24 AM on 09/20/2011
There are even more that you dont hear about. Makes you wonder how many there actually are
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Jerry Bourbon
10:43 AM on 09/20/2011
If it bleeds, it leads. Meanwhile, when the 100 pound female produces her concealed handgun and forces a wanna-be rapist to flee, it does not even get reported to the police, much less make the news.
02:32 AM on 09/20/2011
It has??? Then are the stories in the papers reprints? I just can't believe that could be true.
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Mister Grumpy
An Angry American
12:09 AM on 09/20/2011
The rate of violent crime hasn't dropped. The criteria for what constitutes as a violent crime has been changed. If this was really true then our prisons wouldn't be over crowded, filled with repeat offenders. So overcrowded that some states have to send its criminals to private "for profit " prisons because the state run facilities have no more room.
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Grumpy Man
Disappointed idealist
08:38 PM on 09/20/2011
Instead of lumping all violent crimes together, let's just look at murder rates. I would think that changing the criteria for murder might be difficult. Dead is dead.

According to the DOJ & the FBI murder rates have been cut in half in the past three decades. Is there evidence to the contrary?