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President Obama's Deficit Plan 'Worse Than Nothing' Says Former U.S. Comptroller

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First Posted: 09/20/11 08:17 PM ET Updated: 11/20/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- One of the experts who attended President Obama’s Rose Garden deficit speech is hammering the White House Tuesday, saying the president is using a bogus standard to show savings when really his plan leaves the deficit in worse shape.

The White House strongly denies the contention.

David Walker, former U.S. Comptroller General, is a noted budget hawk who ran the Peter Peterson Foundation, funded by Peterson, a private equity billionaire who has invested heavily in campaigns to slash the budget. Now he heads the Peterson-backed Comeback America Initiative. He initially released a positive statement, praising Obama for focusing on some pressing deficit drivers.

But that was before he had a chance to read the fine print, and see where the numbers were coming from, he said.

"I was shocked and saddened to find out that they have created their own baseline for determining savings," Walker told The Huffington Post. "If you enacted all of their proposals, you would be significantly worse off in 2021 than if the Congress and the president just went on a 10-year vacation."

Walker said the problem is that rather than use the baseline for future spending determined by the Congressional Budget Office, the Obama administration used its own figures. Where the CBO bases its figures on current law -- which says the Bush tax cuts expire next year and Medicare will soon cut payments to doctors -- the White House estimates at least some of the tax cuts will be kept, and Congress will fix the doctor payments.

A White House spokeswoman countered that the White House's benchmark is in fact more realistic, because Congress indeed is unlikely to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire or let Medicare payments to doctors be slashed.

"The adjusted baseline we've used is the most accurate reflection of current policy and the most illuminating way to demonstrate to the American people what actual savings will be created by these proposals," said White House spokeswoman Meg Reilly. "It's consistent with not only standard administration budget practice, but also with the Fiscal Commission, Gang of Six and others. And we've been transparent in all budget documents about precisely how the adjusted baseline is calculated."

But Walker says the different numbers only serve to confuse people, and since the Obama administration's baseline estimate is about $6 trillion worse over 10 years than the CBO's, it is easier to show savings. When Obama says he cuts $3 trillion to $4 trillion, it’s at least $2 trillion short of what would happen if nothing is done, according to Walker.

"[The White House's] debt-to-GDP [ratio] is 74 percent in 2021, versus the current law CBO baseline of 61 percent," Walker said. "The way they're keeping score is worse than doing nothing."

He contended that ignoring the current law is politically palatable, but makes it harder to deal with the structural problems the actual laws present.

An administration economics official echoing Reilly pointed to a recent article by White House National Economic Council director Gene Sperling, which argued that other baselines are more accurate and that the deficit-slashing super committee can use different baselines as well.

Walker agrees that the committee can do that, but he thinks it's just as bad and confusing.

"What I'm concerned about is the Joint Committee on Deficit Reduction has the ability to decide what they're going to use as the basis for determining savings," Walker said. "They can end up creating some kind of thing like this, too, to make it look like they are doing more than they are."

"Both the president as well as this joint committee needs to use the latest CBO current law baseline, because if they don't, they're not credible and they're not consistent," he added.

The administration official countered that the White House at least has been consistent in its assumptions, and details where they differ from CBO.

"No one expects current law to happen," the economics official said. "We have done this in every one of our budgets."

Walker also noted that while the White House assumes the changes in law when it comes to tax cuts and paying doctors, it does not assume the expected draw-down from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Instead, it counts the withdrawals as new policies that save money.

"It's time to quit playing games with the numbers," Walker said, referring to Congress and the White House. "They need to be honest with the American people."

Reilly said the White House is doing so, and that the war savings are properly counted as new.

"While the overseas contingency funding savings included in the proposal are consistent with the president’s policies for troop levels in Iraq and Afghanistan, constraining discretionary spending with the cap we’ve proposed is new," Reilly said. "And counting this savings is consistent with House budget proposal and others."

CLARIFICATION: A previous version of this article phrased Pete Peterson's relationship with David Walker in such a way that Peterson's connection to the Comeback America Initiative might have been misconstrued. We have updated to clarify those relationships.
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WASHINGTON -- One of the experts who attended President Obama’s Rose Garden deficit speech is hammering the White House Tuesday, saying the president is using a bogus standard to show savings when r...
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06:57 PM on 09/26/2011
TO: JO ELLA We are American sisters, and "we" will win. I feel your hearts anguish in everything we're facing today, but I also see, hear and feel your determination in not giving in to the realities American's are facing today. Know what JoElla, it's a privilege to be able to comment like we all do, even on these blogs. But, some people don't realize even this "Right to Free Speech", could be on the chopping block along with many other "Rights" the far leftists and socialistic people in our government are working on. God loves you, and so do I..!!
03:36 AM on 09/23/2011
These are the exact same old GOP talking points from back in 1993, when President proposed almost the same plan as President Obama is proposing now - to restore tax rates on the ultra wealthy. Predictably the GOP's collective heads exploded. "Job killing!", "socialism!" "class warfare!" yadayada.

Clinton had come into office facing a giant deficit courtesy of Reagan's tax breaks for the wealthy, and Bush1's inept management. It was a huge fight and the bill passed even though not one single GOP voted for it. The taxes had their intended effect and Clinton restored the U.S. economy, ushering in the greatest era of prosperity the United States has ever seen.

The republicans were wrong then, and they're wrong now.

Let's remember history when we hear these same old talking points. Read more at http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/002158.htm
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Democrapper
Tell it as I see it.
10:20 PM on 09/22/2011
Wake up Democrats! Obama is using Chicago politics of smoke and mirrors. He's a bald face liar.
03:09 PM on 09/25/2011
Na, don't say that. Let em keep voting. They have no clue about history. Liberal will tax their young to stay in power. Repub get their money from corporations. Liberals steal their money from unions which are regular workers and local taxes. Bill Clinton started taxing social security benefits. Liberals wil tax when there is no more money. See greese.
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redscarecrow
Left-wing knowitall
04:44 PM on 09/22/2011
Just more right wing palaver...
03:09 PM on 09/25/2011
Yea, I'm sure you read it and know all the facts.
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redscarecrow
Left-wing knowitall
09:50 PM on 09/25/2011
I know a toadie of the rich when I see one.
12:25 PM on 09/22/2011
What more would you expect out of obama who is out to destroy America. He needs to be run out of office. He is worthless.
danceswithdata
What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?
12:06 AM on 09/22/2011
I do not pretend to understand very much of all the budget controversy that has been raging far too long, mostly at the expense of the hard working middle class. It has become so complicated that many people choose to just tune it all out when they hear the congress members and others, like White House officials, carry on about it. The bottom line is that Americans are generally smart and fairly well educated and it is truly pathetic that we can no longer band together and make some plans that will benefit the majority and pull us out of the deep, dark hole we have dug.
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Roxee
"Feeling" you're right, doesn't "prove" you are.
08:28 PM on 09/21/2011
As one of the people responsible for the Global Financial Crisis I have no interest in anything this man has to say.
hsmachine
life's short, live it fast
07:54 PM on 09/21/2011
Sorry your president in training looks like he doesn't have a clue on how to run the country. I wish that wasn't true but alas it's a fact.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
10:56 PM on 09/21/2011
Larry Summers has informed us that there are no adults in charge in the WH.
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juicybrisket
true emancipation is a fantasy...
12:01 AM on 09/22/2011
there weren't any adults in charge from 2000-2008 either....
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smburwick
07:23 PM on 09/21/2011
ahjuci: I read an eastern soviet newspaper piece that said the problem in America is the mindset who elected this socialist to office.
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smburwick
07:07 PM on 09/21/2011
cynical one from yesterday. yes.
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georgechevrolet
06:38 PM on 09/21/2011
Thank God for the Tea Party electing Speaker Boehner and other republicans that took Obamas piggy bank away, we would be in even more trouble/debt than we are now if not for them!
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
07:24 PM on 09/21/2011
Yes, thank God for the TP'ers and Boehner and his "wedgie" Cantor... without their help and caring nature and assistance our credit rating would still be in tact.. our debt would be 1 trillion dollars less but for Boehner insisting in 2010 that their boys get another bite of the pie, with the extention of the Bushy Tax Cuts..

Yeah, thank the Good Lord we know now what "hostage taking" really means, and who benefits from taking hostages... Protect & defend Koch's corporate states of America... I dont think its God you need to thank for the evil these guys do...
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bouncerdave2011
Every day I'm shuffling
07:46 PM on 09/21/2011
Mr. Beers of the S&P said on FNC, ”Cut, cap and balance would have overted the downgrade since it is the only serious outlook on the debt.”

S&P official, David Beers, added that ‘fiscal policy, like other government policy, is fundamentally a political process.’ But, rather than building consensus on how to best rein in the nation’s staggering debt, the downgrade left political leaders as divided as ever. Politicians on both sides used the decision to bolster their ideological positions.
06:32 PM on 09/21/2011
More smoke and mirrors from 3 card Monty Obama.
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georgechevrolet
06:35 PM on 09/21/2011
Yup, that is all he has ever been and it took long enough for people to catch on but better late than never.
Welcome to Carter part Duex!
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
07:32 PM on 09/21/2011
I'll take it... Carter part II, III or IV... anything but Bush II, as in Perry or Romney..
Obama 2012... Go Black and you'll never go back.....
danceswithdata
What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?
12:13 AM on 09/22/2011
Sorry georgy, but I don't know what "duex" means. If you're going to flaunt foreign words it would be better to learn how to spell them first.
06:21 PM on 09/21/2011
Maybe president Romney or Perry will get 49 states like Reagan did
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js0860
09:01 PM on 09/21/2011
And Obama will campaign in all 57 states like he did in 2008!
06:15 PM on 09/21/2011
I am kinda amazed that Obama supports keep blaming the CURRENT situation on Bush. If I remember correctly, and I do, Obama and his campaign said " WE WILL FIX THIS PROBLEM, ITS TIME TO GET RID OF GOVERNMENT AS USUAL." Well, where is the fix? where is the "new" way government runs? Whatever your beliefs on Bush, its about time we start holding Obama accountable for his "speeches" and campaign promises....WHERE IS THIS MIRACULOUS FIX? As most responsible officials said 3 years ago, watch it carefully, but with careful SMALL interjections of government, the "crisis" will deflate.
06:37 PM on 09/21/2011
He's going to tell you next week...wait..no...the week after that....wait ..no...2 weeks after that or maybe 3.....make it 4....let's make it 4 months......no...wait.....
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
07:37 PM on 09/21/2011
Like a pig in the poke.... Dont know what your getting until you get it home... Obama ended up with a wet paper bag of shittttt with a big Texas hole in the bottom... You try to fix that... and see if you get your hands dirty...

..and if you have a way of fixing that bag.... let the Pres know... Im sure he'll be happy to have you solve this mess of economy....
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discouragerofhesitancy
ignore this sentence
06:04 PM on 09/21/2011
Boy the troales are just tying their panties in a gleeful twist over this article, giving credence to a person with credentials like Walker's. There must be lots of bridges in the Black Forest of Germany left unattended.
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georgechevrolet
06:17 PM on 09/21/2011
What is the matter? No Palin bashing threads? Surely you can fin a anti American site somewhere to cheer-lead.
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discouragerofhesitancy
ignore this sentence
09:57 PM on 09/21/2011
It takes one to know one, sounds like you have experience.
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jmac44
Motto: Sweep the HOUSE CLEAN 2014"
07:39 PM on 09/21/2011
Now you see, I thought the "trolls" were the ones bashing our President.... see how that works.