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Fed Launches $400 Billion Stimulus To Spur Growth, But Economists Predict Minimal Impact

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First Posted: 09/21/11 03:45 PM ET Updated: 11/21/11 05:12 AM ET

The Federal Reserve has unleashed another creative attempt to stimulate the economy, moving to increase its holdings in long-term securities in order to drive down long-term interest rates.

The Fed plans to sell $400 billion in short-term Treasury notes and buy $400 billion in Treasury securities that will mature in six to 30 years, in an attempt to encourage spending by consumers and businesses. The project has been dubbed "Operation Twist," after a similar stimulus undertaken by the Fed in 1961.

The move would push interest rates on mortgages down, which the Fed hopes would encourage people to either buy homes, in turn stimulating the housing market, or refinance their mortgages at the lower interest rates, which would give them more cash to spend. More spending by homeowners could help spur a virtuous circle of hiring, increased income, and spending that reinforce one another.

But the program will not have a major impact on economic growth or unemployment, economists say.

"It's not the missing link to an economic recovery," said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wells Fargo Securities.

Vitner told The Huffington Post that most people with good credit have already refinanced their mortgages, since interest rates are currently so low. He said that even if rates were to decrease further, it would not help people with bad credit -- including the 23 percent of Americans who owe more than their home is worth -- since they do not qualify for refinancing in the first place.

Operation Twist's overall effect on the economy will be "marginal," said Gregory Daco, principal U.S. economist at IHS Global Insight. Daco said that long-term interest rates, which are already low, have fallen even lower because investors have been expecting this move from the Fed for a while. As a result, they have largely priced in the potential impact of Operation Twist, and interest rates may not be able to fall much more.

"I don't think the Fed holds a magical wand that could all of a sudden solve the current situation of weak growth," Daco told The Huffington Post.

Operation Twist may also be unlikely to make a dent in consumers' reluctance to spend, since high unemployment continues to diminish people's confidence in the economy.

"Homeowners are relatively insensitive to mortgage rates when they are lacking confidence," Yale economist Robert Shiller, an expert on the housing market, told Bloomberg News. "The dramatic thing that is happening now is that their job isn't secure, if they even have one."

But there are some people "at the margin" who may decide to refinance their mortgages once long-term interest rates drop, said Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody's Analytics. The "tens of thousands of dollars" that people would save may encourage them to spend more, Faucher said, in turn stimulating the economy. The Fed's move also could boost stock prices, which could make people feel wealthier and confident enough to spend.

At the very least, Vitner said of Operation Twist, "it doesn’t hurt."

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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:17 AM on 09/23/2011
Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. revealed the Bankers Manifesto

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We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion.

We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When, through process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through influence of the strong arm of government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under control of leading financiers.

People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned

http://www.illuminati-news.com/bankers-manifesto.html
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joebhed
Greenback Revolutionist
10:45 AM on 09/23/2011
So, we're either taking to the streets, where their police state awaits our arrival, or in tribute to Mr. Lindbergh, we're taking back the money system.
With a pen.
http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_Act_FINAL_112th.pdf

For the Money System Common
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
11:53 AM on 09/23/2011
Why do we not try both to give the Elite something to think about
We Stand With the Majority of Americans: Human Needs, Not Corporate Greed

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A large majority of the American people consistently support the following agenda:

Tax the rich and corporations
End the wars, bring the troops home, cut military spending
Protect the social safety net, strengthen Social Security and improved Medicare for all
End corporate welfare for oil companies and other big business interests
Transition to a clean energy economy, reverse environmental degradation
Protect worker rights including collective bargaining, create jobs and raise wages
Get money out of politics
The government, dominated by elite economic interests, is going in the opposite direction from what the people want. The American people’s agenda is our agenda. For more see: The American People Could Rule Better than the Political and Economic Elites.
Oct 6th can we count on your help? if so bring a friend
http://october2011.org/standwiththemajority
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:11 AM on 09/23/2011
The motto of the Fed.."We lower interest rates REAL LOW then when the consumer buys more than they can afford WE raise the rates very high causing the consumer to lose all of their assets to the ultra rich for pennies on the dollar."

......................................and its happening right now.....................................
04:17 AM on 09/23/2011
Or is the plan for investors to snap up the cheap mortgages? It seems convenient that Morgan Stanley is pushing to have investors buy up the glut of homes for sale, especially foreclosures, and altruistically offer them "at affordable rents". From the article linked below: "There are about 2.2 million vacant homes available for sale in the U.S., and 7.5 million homes facing foreclosure that would add to the excess housing supply, causing values to drop further, the Morgan Stanley analysts wrote."

They explain how they are only doing this to help people, not investors, of course!

"“If nothing is done soon, we will find ourselves in a situation where owner-occupied housing becomes unobtainable due to lack of credit, while rental housing becomes unobtainable due to rising costs.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-08/bulk-buying-would-ease-u-s-housing-crisis-morgan-stanley-analysts-say.html
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Carolab
Just another hostage of the poopy heads
03:38 AM on 09/24/2011
Actually, this is already spurring refinance and the plan is to help those with even little equity.

My husband is working with buyers and this is helping them to make a move.  It's gotten to the point now where you can buy and it's cheaper than rent.

What's better, having a bunch of vacant houses that continue to drag the value of other homes down?

Wall Street Journal has this


http://onl­ine.wsj.co­m/article/­SB10001424­0531119045­6390457658­9182943679­612.html
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AlfredE69
Liberty Lovin' Tree Hugger
11:58 PM on 09/22/2011
Dear Ben:

Please deposit into my checking account, $50M. Thanks buddy and love your tie! J Press?
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Dave F
Former Republican. Liberal = liberty.
04:57 PM on 09/22/2011
"Vitner told The Huffington Post that most people with good credit have already refinanced their mortgages"

I did. It was that and refinancing my car loans that helped me gain back enough $$ per month from being put at 4 days a week 2.5 years ago. Now that I've saved a bit of that, I'm embarking on an entrepreneurial venture, to not only make some more money for myself, but to put more back into the system to create demand and spur economic activity for others.
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rel77
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused
10:19 AM on 09/22/2011
A lot of people like James Carville have been saying that the president should "fire a bunch of people" to show he's serious, or tough, or whatever. I don't agree about such a vague suggestion, but I do think it's well past time to fire most or all of his economic team.
I get the distinct feeling Obama and his staff are getting the "this is too complicated for you drones to grasp" kind of thing, and the fact is, their job performance sucks. Maybe they did a good job getting us through the immediate aftermath of the Wall Street crash, but since it was all of their good buddies who got us into that mess maybe that wasn't so hard. Since then it's become apparent that not one of them has a clue how to cajole/insist/strongarm the private sector into hiring or retraining unemployed workers, or how to stare down banks to free up all that money we gave them. I suspect it's because these guys are all best friends - if so, maybe it's time to hire some SOB's who graduated Magna Cum Laude from Brooklyn College and don't give a rats ass about how the Yale football team is doing this year.
I still like Obama as the mayor, but this town needs a new sheriff.
10:12 AM on 09/22/2011
After reading a bunch of the comments here I feel better than ever that B is at the helm. Amazing how everyone has become an economist of late. Problem is most don't have a clue.
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joebhed
Greenback Revolutionist
10:04 AM on 09/22/2011
""It's not the missing link to an economic recovery," said Mark Vitner, senior economist at Wells Fargo Securities."

So, what is the missing link to an economic recovery?
Answer - restoration of monetary sovereignty to the people of the United States, as called for in the Constitution.

Congressman Dennis Kucinich has the Bill for doing just that.
http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/NEED_Act_FINAL_112th.pdf

Wake up, progressives.
It IS the money system that is at fault.

Please see the international Monetative Mission Statement that provides the framework for the Kucinich Bill.
http://www.monetative.de/?page_id=71

Then call your Congressman or Senator and tell them to have a look and support this brand new offering by the Congressman from Cleveland.
And spread that Greenback link around.

For the Money System Common.
12:44 PM on 09/23/2011
If we really want to break up the Fed's monopoly and destruction of our currency, then this is the bill we should be supporting: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.1098:%3Cbr%20/%3E
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joebhed
Greenback Revolutionist
05:21 PM on 09/23/2011
Sorry, I am opposed to free-banking.
The problem is not one of a national currency.
The problem is of private debt-based money creation, resulting in the debt-enslavement of the people.
I'm often surprised that Ron Paul doesn't get it.
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intellectualTradition
corruptisima re publica plurimae leges
09:54 AM on 09/22/2011
nothing says competence like DNC as run by liberals and progressives. Shame they don't purge the party

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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
09:45 AM on 09/22/2011
At this point, I am ready to print out pictures of Bernanke and Geithner and use them for dart boards! That is the only good use for these two - and every time I read of an announcement by one or the other, I grab my wallet and see if there are any more moths to fly out, along with the few dollars left.
09:39 AM on 09/22/2011
Like I said from the beginning the eight reasons the economy went bad were never fixed. Our government all it wants to do is throw more money into our problems.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
09:12 AM on 09/22/2011
As Bernanke said, this won;t create jobs, it might lower Home Mortgage rates a bit, but the lending rules as dictated by Fannie and Freddie (The Federal Government) make these loans unobtainable for most. THis week Jim Crammer the guy on MSNBC said HE was being asked to put 30% in cash down for a mortgage with a Credit Score of 700 and net cash on hand 10 times the loan amount...thats why houses aren;t moving, their is some demand...just try and get the money, it was actually easier a year and a half ago...
07:55 AM on 09/22/2011
EVERY TIME a person uses credit, new money is CREATED. This dilutes the value of your dollar and creates inflation. A guy with $5,000 can bid $125,000 on a home with an FHA loan which destroys the guy who was bidding $75k and didn't want to be in debt.

EVERY TIME you use a visa, student loan, car loan etc, you are creating new money and weakening everyone's dollars.

THE GOVERNMENT WANTS MORE OF THIS. They will publicly state savings area a good thing but they want to expand a credit ponzi forever. Their monetary system is based upon perpetual expansion.

THE GOVERNMENT wants an end to money. They want to force you all into labor for life without EVER GETTING AHEAD or being FREE.

SAVE YOUR MONEY. Saved money and a debt free life are FREEDOM defined in our society,

Take on no debts and do what is best for YOU. It isn't the 20ty century and the old rules will not work.
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joebhed
Greenback Revolutionist
09:57 AM on 09/22/2011
"Every time a person uses credit, new money is created." TRUE.
"This dilutes the value of your dollar and creates inflation." FALSE.

In a debt-based system of money, any growth in the economy requires new (debt-based) money be created on an ongoing basis.

The only way to have money for economic growth is for some person or business to use its "credit", creating new money. So, you're right, using "credit" creates new money.

But, the person or business using their credit to create new money does NOT cause inflation. Only when money is created in excess of the economy's production and consumption of goods and services - when money is created in excess of "demand" - does money-creation cause inflation.

Please see von Mises "Theory of Money and Credit, pg. 126.

"In theoretical investigation, there is only one meaning that can rationally be attached to the expression INFLATION(ital.) : an increase in the quantity of money (in the broader sense of the term so as to include fiduciary media as well), that is not offset by a corresponding increase in the need for money, so that a fall in the objective exchange value of money must occur."

So, the only way to have money creation cause inflation - that fall in the objective value of the money - is to create the money in excess of the potential growth of the national economy.

Nobody's use of a student loan or car loan weakens anyone's dollar.
Sorry.
04:35 PM on 09/22/2011
Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary event. When the FED increases the supply of money and lowers interest rates they are conducting monetary policies through a transmission mechanism to engender price stability with low inflation which their target is 2%. Inflation is caused by more money chasing fewer goods so prices go up. It has more to do with the velocity of money than the actual reserves, and of course the price of capital. However, in a highly debted nation where consumers are underwater and overlevered due to easy money policies and securitization and savings from overseas with lower prices due to outsourcing, debt must be paid down before they consider spending more and have more confidence, esp since they have lost a lot of their net worth and have no equity.
10:22 PM on 09/22/2011
Absolute bunk. Nonsense. Stuff you were told and stuff you never thought to question.

1. The real assets behind money creation are the real money. A loan is created off of past labor and future labor. Without collateral, a downpayment etc. no bank will lend you money.

2. Read the Federal Reserve Act itself - 1913....the FOMC shall maintain credit aggregates in tandem with the economy's ability to grow. Excess credit is just that - it is credit the economy has no need for. You can match credit to underlying growth and maintain growth with NO INFLATION whatsoever.

3. Every new dollar DOES dilute the purchasing power of existing dollars. This is indisputable and goes to the heart of all economics for every nut harvested by one squirrel comes at the expense of another.

"Nobody's use of a student loan or car loan weakens anyone's dollar.
Sorry."

Sorry yourself. You're wrong!

"The only way to have money for economic growth is for some person or business to use its "credit", creating new money. So, you're right, using "credit" creates new money."

You have it in reverse. The car came BEFORE the new money. The college came BEFORE the loan and the house came BEFORE the mortgage!

Money creation only occurs in tandem with past AND future growth.
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Jack Daniels Esq
Hold the ice
05:19 AM on 09/22/2011
Our government is like trash - nobody believes in them or believes a word they utter
Obamy - like the weak CEO of any corporation - has to go - its a top-down exercise
Until Americans believe in the Feds, they are wasting our money, several times over

Impeach Obamy Now
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Wendy Davis
Banned!
08:12 AM on 09/22/2011
Back the truck up. "Until Americans believe in the Feds, they are wasting our money, several times over. What does that mean? Alan Greenspan has testified before congress that his failure at maintaining regulations resulted in corporations, banks and investment firms focusing on their shareholders profits and little else. "I was wrong." Greenspan states. google it. In fact, I think he knew he was wrong, I think that cash and assets ended up exactly where he wanted them - in the hands of Zionists - war over oil to fuel massive military campaigns in the ME - after Israel pushes the final envelope far enough to start a war that will never end - Which will kill the young and healthy men world wide, while thse now superwealthy multibillionaires stand before the million dollar ocean views and talk about which wine they should have for dinner. YEAH RIGHT. Get over your party, it's bigger than that.
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Peter Combs
Amused by the illogical..no, NOT a Republican
09:08 AM on 09/22/2011
Zionists? Israel is a minor player on the world stage when it comes to the economy....., lets not get rediculous..and what about Italy? Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, China is heading into a slowdown...

World economys rise and fall on Bubbles, they ALWAYS have..,always. No Bubble? no rise..its that simple....

Deregulating the Banks through the repealment of Glass Steagle and Changing the Commodity rules left the door open for abuse.

Blamming "Zion"..is little more than code for your own bigotry..
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intellectualTradition
corruptisima re publica plurimae leges
09:55 AM on 09/22/2011
fruitcake alert !!
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Jack Daniels Esq
Hold the ice
08:55 AM on 09/22/2011
Calm the truck down, toots - we're talking American jobs here
And it is embarrassing that Bibi chucks Obamy under the bus

This admin is clueless - did ya sleep through the Wall Street
Bankstas sell crippled mortgages episode these last 3 years?
04:31 AM on 09/22/2011
Lower the long term rates. The short term rates are already near zero. Inflate the currency... bankrupt our banking system.......pass the champaigne....and party like its 1935!
07:56 AM on 09/22/2011
Yup. Pass the schnitzel.