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Moody's Downgrades Eight Greek Banks On Exposure To Government Bonds

ELENA BECATOROS   09/23/11 12:51 PM ET   AP

ATHENS, Greece — Moody's downgraded eight Greek banks Friday, citing their exposure to their government's bonds and the deteriorating economic situation in the country as it struggles to convince creditors it's doing enough to get more bailout cash.

Moody's Investors Service downgraded National Bank of Greece, EFG Eurobank Ergasias, Alpha Bank, Piraeus Bank, Agricultural Bank of Greece and Attica Bank by two notches from B3 to CAA2.

Though downgrading Emporiki Bank of Greece and General Bank of Greece, which are majority-owned by France's Credit Agricole and Societe Generale respectively, to B3 from B1, Moody's said their parents continue to provide strong support. As a result, their ratings are three notches higher than the others.

The agency also warned that further downgrades were possible by slapping a negative outlook on their ratings.

Shares on the Athens Stock Exchange plunged by more than other indexes in Europe, closing down 3.9 percent at 797.95 points. Bank shares led the rout, with declines of more than 8 percent.

Greece has been kept solvent by a euro110 billion ($149 billion) bailout in 2010 from other eurozone countries and the International Monetary Fund. But it needed another massive bailout this summer, and has angered international creditors by lagging behind in commitments to implementing reforms.

European officials are speaking openly of the possibility of a Greek default, and the fears have roiled international markets. A default could send shockwaves through the banking system and the global economy, leading to losses for banks holding Greek government bonds and dragging down other eurozone countries with shaky finances.

Dutch central bank president Klaas Knot said he could no longer rule out the possibility that Greece will be unable to pay back its debts.

"I won't say that Greece cannot default," Knot said in an interview with Dutch newspaper Het Financieel Dagblad, published Friday. Knot, who recently became president of De Nederlandsche Bank, is also a European Central Bank governing council member. The ECB has insisted Greece must stick with its bailout plan and has opposed default.

"I have long been convinced that a default is not necessary," Knot said. "But the news from Athens is sometimes not encouraging. All efforts are aimed at preventing this, but I am now less positive in ruling out a default than I was a few months ago."

Greece needs an euro8 billion ($11 billion) bailout installment by mid-October to keep from defaulting on its massive debts as it moves into a fourth year of recession. The troika is due back in Athens next week to complete its review and recommend whether Athens should receive the next funds.

"The implicit contract between Greece and the rest of the euro area – official support in exchange for a good faith effort – is breaking down," said David Mackie of J.P. Morgan in London.

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, speaking from Washington Friday, said the second, euro109 billion ($146.39 billion) bailout for Greece agreed on in July may have to be re-evaluated.

"I would be surprised if the preconditions for the payment of the next (aid) installment in September had changed, but not the preconditions for an additional program for Greece," Schaeuble said.

Officials had said at the time that the euro109 billion figure was an estimate that might need adjustment after Greece's debt inspectors from the IMF, ECB and European Commission, collectively known as the troika, had taken a closer look at financing needs. Another variable is the contribution of banks and other private investors, which are being ask to give Greece easier terms on its bonds.

But Schaeuble's comments are the most vocal acknowledgment to date that the second aid package may face a deeper review.

Greek bondholders have already agreed to take a 21 percent loss on the value of their investments in a swap for new bonds. That loss is relatively mild by the standard of government defaults, which often inflict losses of 50 percent or more. But some economists say the current swap arrangement does not give Greece enough debt relief.

To secure its next bailout installment, the government this week announced another round of tax hikes and pension cuts, angering an already austerity-weary public. Greece faces another general strike on Oct. 19, while all public transport workers and taxi drivers are to hold a 48-hour strike next week.

After repeated rounds of austerity measures that have included salary and pension cuts in the public sector and waves of tax hikes, Greece finds itself in the grip of a major recession, with its chances of returning to growth next year essentially out of reach – the IMF predicted that the Greek economy would contract another 2 percent next year after this year's 5 percent.

The government insists it hopes to post a primary surplus – spending less than it earns before taking interest rates on outstanding debt into account – next year.

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Mike Corder in The Hague and Gabriele Steinhauser in Washington contributed.

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ATHENS, Greece — Moody's downgraded eight Greek banks Friday, citing their exposure to their government's bonds and the deteriorating economic situation in the country as it struggles to convinc...
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Morgantheaxe
Right is wrong, and left is correct!
01:37 AM on 09/24/2011
Ever notice people that scream about wanting Greece to default fall in to two catagories? They are either people with no investments or people who work in investment banks that are shorting the heck out of Greek bonds. This is why you want government NOT to act like a business.
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
12:33 PM on 09/23/2011
Working in the financial market sector, I follow the debates on the best/worst scenarios for Greece, Europe and, ultimately, the world economy. The Greek finance minister this morning denied reports (from apparently reliable sources) that he had proposed to Greek legislators three possible solutions: (1) a disorderly default on Greek debt; (2) an orderly default; or Greek acceptance of conditions for the payment on the €109 billion coming up shortly. But I just read a very interesting analysis from an international investment strategist. This is really scary stuff, folks, but it is well worth the read ... if you want to stay ahead of the news flow: http://brontecapital.blogspot.com/2011/09/models-for-greek-sovereign-default.html
03:07 PM on 09/24/2011
I read...including responses. I think I'm way over my head, but I'm going to guess that there is some potential opportunity for more universal security in commodities.
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
03:24 PM on 09/24/2011
Commoditeis make sense to me, but beware: these markets are so incredibly volatile, they could RADICALLY change direction in a nanosecond!

But good luck anyway. -:)
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arthur-in-miami
10:45 AM on 09/23/2011
This is horrible - The Greek's do not want any compromise at all, they want to be cared for like children that have lost their way while middle aged and have whealthy parents waiting to take care of them. This is the most emotional display of countymen over taxes and money that I can recall in my 50+ years, that is why I can only assimilate it to a child and it's parents. I fear the worst for a country that I love and have visited countless times.
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
12:27 PM on 09/23/2011
Arthur, I am as critical of the Greeks as anyone, but the world is forcing down their throats such drastic austerity measures that it is downright unproductive. What good does it do to tell govt workers to take a 25% pay cut, a huge cut in retirement and work harder, plus massive layofss when the end result is a 3%+ plunge in GDP and an even steeper decline in tax receipts, perhaps as high as a 30% plunge? 

Simple solutions that inflict enormous pain on a people do not necessarily produce the best results. It doesn't take an economist to understand that if tax receipts fall dramatically, in large part due to draconian austerity measures, the Greeks will NOT be able to meet their debt payment commitments. The same applies to a family or individual.

The world rush toward austerity is like a a huge train running at full speed right smack into a granite mountain. We are in for a big shock in the months ahead. Sadly, instead of even debating the correct policies, most politicians are taking the worst possible solution: austerity in the midst of a world recession!
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arthur-in-miami
12:45 AM on 09/24/2011
Your thoughtful comments are well stated. I feel for the people of Greece, but wonder whythey burn tax bills instead of paying them and showing good faith and why they have not apid them when they could have. The greeks should return to their own wconomy - they are not a country of peole that can easily assimilate to aq group. I think it would be best for them and that they find resources that they can utilize to contain and reduce the current debt - the ongoing issue with the Greeks is that only about 10% of the citizens actually pay their taxes and the rest just slide by, this has been "acceptable" somehow for generations - It is possible I am wrong but in the end the country will have an uphill battle either way - no matter it is as you said a wor;ld wide financial crisis and as a US abroad I think it boild down to the Bush Cheney and Blair craziness of the last 10 years ....well enough bad news - perhaps tomorow we will see a new hope for peace somewhere in the world a fight won for democracy in Yemin or help for the ravaged areas of saomalia - g'nite friend