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Europe Aiming To Ramp Up Crisis Fund As Other Nations Raise Alarm

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First Posted: 09/25/11 11:54 AM ET Updated: 11/25/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Dan Flynn and Jan Strupczewski) - Europe is working to ramp up the firepower of its bailout fund, top officials said on Saturday, as the United States, China and other nations raised the alarm about its debt crisis hurting the world economy.

Financial markets plunged last week on fears that Greece's near-bankruptcy could spread to other euro zone countries, heaping pressure on European policymakers to prevent a repeat of the chaos that swept the world in 2007-2009.

The European Union's top economic official, Olli Rehn, said as soon as the region's governments confirm new powers for their 440-billion-euro fund, known as the EFSF, attention will turn to how to get more impact from the existing money.

"We need to find a mechanism where we can turn one euro in the EFSF into five, but there is no decision on how we could do that yet," another senior European official said on condition of anonymity.

The United States and other nations have urged Europe to leverage up the fund, possibly with support from the European Central Bank.

But officials from the ECB and from Germany, the region's paymaster, remained wary of using the central bank, which has a strict mandate to pursue low inflation.

"We should not think of leveraging a public pot of funds as a free lunch," said ECB Governing Council member Patrick Honohan.

Nonetheless, arming the euro zone with a bigger warchest to lend to governments or shore up banks was the focus of top finance officials from around the globe who met in Washington for semiannual meetings of the International Monetary Fund.

The sovereign debt crisis threatens to throw the euro zone into recession and has placed a troubling drag on an already slow U.S. economy. It could come to weigh on emerging economies too.

"Brazil's experience with past crises suggests you have to confront the problems in a fast, consistent manner," said Brazilian central bank chief Alexandre Tombini.

"The longer it takes, the higher the cost, the more contagion spreads. You have to act with overwhelming force."

The IMF's steering committee said in a statement that the euro zone was committed to whatever was needed to resolve the single currency bloc's crisis.

It warned that the global economy had "entered a dangerous phase, calling for exceptional vigilance, coordination and readiness to take bold action" to cope with Europe's financial stress and prevent it infecting others.

European officials were scrambling to put in place a comprehensive crisis-fighting plan by the time leaders from the Group of 20 nations meet in France in early November.

Greece is at the epicenter of the crisis but it has threatened to spread to several other euro zone countries. Italy, the third-biggest economy in the currency bloc, has also struggled to retain investor confidence, but Italian Economy Minister Giulio Tremonti said on Saturday its financial house was "in order."

U.S. Treasury chief Timothy Geithner, in his most explicit warnings to date, said the ECB should take a more central role in fighting the crisis. "The threat of cascading default, bank runs, and catastrophic risk must be taken off the table," he said.

CALMING NERVES

Investors took some comfort on Friday from signs of new resolve by European officials, after nearly two years of what many saw as half-hearted action.

"It is encouraging that ... European officials are signaling a better appreciation of the depth and potential consequences of the crisis," Mohamed el-Erian, co-chief investment officer of bond giant PIMCO, said on Saturday after further signals that Europe was bolstering its defenses.

"Now they need to translate this into decisive actions underpinned by a common vision of what they want the euro zone to look like in five years time."

Some policymakers now talk openly of a possible Greek default and the need to move much more aggressively to prepare for it.

"Decisions as to how to conclusively address the region's problems cannot wait until the crisis gets more severe," Geithner said.

His warning was echoed by China's central bank governor, Zhou Xiaochuan, who urged quick action to bring greater financial stability to the Europe.

Canada's central bank governor, Mark Carney, told Canadian radio that the euro area's bailout fund should be more than doubled to "the neighborhood of a trillion euros."

BATTENING THE HATCHES

A default by Greece could cause a domino effect in other highly indebted euro zone countries, putting at risk European banks which hold their debt.

Greek Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos said Athens was determined not to default and would stay in the euro zone.

"Greece will always be in the euro and Greece will never go bankrupt because this would be destructive for the euro zone and for many other countries beyond the euro zone," he said.

Athens is in tense talks with the IMF and European authorities to secure a new 8 billion-euro installment of its rescue package.

In return, it has pledged deep austerity measures but negotiators are frustrated at what they say is Greece's slow reform pace. A loan payment, however, is still expected to be made in October. The next installment is due in December.

Venizelos was quoted by two newspapers on Friday as saying an orderly default with a 50 percent "haircut" for bondholders was one way to resolve the heavily indebted euro zone nation's cash crunch. European banks have agreed to take a 21 percent loss on their Greek bonds in a restructuring deal.

To battle the crisis, Geithner called for more cooperation between European policymakers -- who set their own tax and fiscal policy -- and their central bank.

One option to increase the potency of the EFSF would be for the ECB to commit large amounts of funding, with the temporary bailout fund putting forward money to cover potential losses.

German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said he was open to the idea of leveraging Europe's rescue fund but said that did not necessarily mean the ECB should provide the extra firepower. [ID:nS1E78N083]

In another sign of new thinking by Europe, Schaeuble said Germany backed bringing forward the launch of the euro zone's permanent rescue mechanism, which is currently scheduled for mid-2013. The new mechanism would give policymakers powers to impose losses on private bondholders in a default and could be leveraged more easily than the temporary version of the fund.

Germany, as the strongest economy in Europe, needs to play a central role in any effort to curb a debt crisis, but public opinion there has turned against further big bailouts for fellow euro zone countries.

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climbing panda
there's a log in my cabin
11:56 PM on 09/26/2011
What happens when Greece starts refusing the money?
08:08 AM on 09/26/2011
Can't Greece just lower taxes on the "job creators?"
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Norma Ward
07:26 AM on 09/26/2011
Here is an article outlining the world's entire sovereign debt problem, most of which has been accrued by developed nations:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/04/debtworld-were-drowning-in-sea-of-debt.html

The sovereign debt for the world's developed economies is anticipated to rise from 91 percent of GDP at the end of 2009 to 110 percent in 2015, an increase of 37 percentage points since the beginning of the Great Recession. There is no way that the IMF, World Bank, ECB or any combination of the above can bail the world out of this mess.
iam99
To know what you prefer...
03:02 AM on 09/26/2011
"We should not think of leveraging a public pot of funds as a free lunch," said ECB governing council member Patrick Honrihan.

This is misstated. Isn't it, rather, a pot of public funds that will be put to use to benefit a select set and not everybody?

It is yet another layer of ponzi.
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msjimmied
01:41 AM on 09/26/2011
Check out the communique issued by the IMF on Greece. Not once did they mention the country, and they end by saying they will meet again in April 2012. WTF! Make of it what you will.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/imf-releases-steering-commttee-communique-greece-full-text
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
12:14 AM on 09/26/2011
Elements of 'The New Euro Deal.'

The Deal involves
♦  an orderly Greek default
♦  an uncontroll­ed default of Ireland (very soon) and likely Portugal
♦ €zone countries anteing up to EFSF.
♦ US putting together a  £1.7-2 Tn war chest. EU countries can't do it; US has motive and ability.  Sunday Times says it's £3 Tn.   http://www­.telegraph­.co.uk/new­s/worldnew­s/europe/e­u/8786945/­1.75-trill­ion-deal-t­o-save-the­-euro.html  

Where did this info come from?
♦  Someone from a WorldBank/IMF briefing held in Washington released the info confidentially..(Geithner was there.)
♦  Osborne and Noyer (BoFrance) denied it existed. 
♦  Obama and Geithner are silent.  Kachink!

Who's behind it and why? 
♦  DE:  Exposure to almost every country is astounding; DE bankers/taxpayers are totally scr*wed.  Check this interactive chart:  pick any country to get to the chart; then select Greece ; move your cursor over other countries to see exposure.  http://www­.ft.com/in­tl/cms/s/0­/9686c004-­fca4-11df-­bfdd-00144­feab49a.ht­ml#axzz1Z0­c67Apj
♦  USofA:  The Euro system was based on FedRes (with strong Wall Street involvemen­t).  Obama can't bail out US banks again, they've massive exposure, but this is 'foreign aid' (from the taxpayers.)

Will the it work?  Doubtful, but it may buy a couple years. 
♦  Current debt status of EU countries shows startling yearly increases.  http://edi­tion.cnn.c­om/2011/BU­SINESS/06/­19/europe.­debt.expla­iner/index­.html 
♦  Ezone solidarity is waning:  EFSF needs capital; Slovakia said no to new bailouts, Slovenia hasn't ratified, more will jump ship.


Then Why do it?
This time allows pols and bankers to get out of office, but makes 'recovery' a very long term proposition (15-25 yrs) for everyone else.  The banks/investors/pols don't care about anyone else's misery, just getting away still rich and clean.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
08:03 AM on 09/26/2011
You are incorrect. The funding for the program will come from the European Financial Stability Fund (EFSF), of which the United States is not a member. See your first link.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
02:19 PM on 09/26/2011
BeckyBradshaw, I stand by my comment; I've also had an MBA for 30 years, and several years  as a financial exec at a Big 8.  I don't care what the spin is; there are only a handful of countries that can raise that much, and only US (possibly Russia) have  motive.  Take a look at the link about exposure they need at least another £2 Tn to just stave this mess off; the EFSF only has $692Bn.  Look at the link for debt increases: they can't possibly raise another £1.7-3 Tn, they're all tapped out.  But the US is 'helping', because our TBTF banks have massive exposure both first and second level; see that link.  BTW, my other sib and spouse are high up WorldBank execs...I'm not blowing smoke. 

If you think Obama's gonna let his biggest contributors take a hit, think again.  He needs that money for his $1 Tn war chest for 2012 (as an Indy, I'll probably do a protest vote against incumbents to lock up Congress for four more; from the stats, he's lost the Indies, so he'll probably tank in the election), and he can't back another bailout in the US; but this will be 'foreign aid.' Remember, this guy sent 47 warships on our dime to patrol the coast of Costa Rica (and protect all those beachfront resorts and homes owned by Americans; one of my sibs bought one, and is high up in the Admin.)
11:02 AM on 09/26/2011
Excerpt Zero Hedge:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/spirit-willing-flesh-weak

Look at what they are talking about doing. Look at how unsuccessful any of the previous, poorly thought out plans have worked. Contagion has spread. European bank shares are down 50% from a year ago. European stock indices are down 20% from a year ago. Portugal and Ireland are in deep trouble, and Italy and Spain are on the cusp of trouble. Will more bogus plans that don’t really ever get implemented, that fix nothing, but make the system more convoluted really do anything? Wouldn’t we be better off letting some defaults occur and picking up the pieces. Maybe more time and energy should be spent on how to pick up the pieces while some are still independent, rather than further linking everyone to the anchor? Maybe more time should be spent determining if Lehman was “solely†responsible for the problems in late 2008 and early 2009? Maybe the problem wasn’t Lehman defaulting and it was just another piece of a bigger uglier puzzle and we are so busy trying to avoid another “Lehman Moment†that we have lost sight of whether it is that important to avoid a default?
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
05:28 PM on 09/26/2011
Castlemike, faved!  I don't usually hit investor-type websites, but thanks for that link!  I read the stuff on the UK/EU econ/news sites most of the time, and they're stating € can't be saved but try not to get too negative and never go into possible motives.  I knew the US market funds had pretty much bailed out of EU about a year ago, but it looks like I missed some fun stuff on zerohedge!  I thought I was the 'black cloud of EU' on HP (lots of defenders here, but most are US posters); those guys are worse than me!
11:54 PM on 09/25/2011
http://market-ticker.org/

Forcing private creditors to write down their Greek bond holdings by more than the 21 percent tentatively agreed to in a July deal would quickly cause a "domino effect" that would see the crisis spread to other parts of Europe, warned Josef Ackermann, the outgoing chairman of the Institute of International Finance.

Such a move would ultimately cost taxpayers much more than just bailing out Greece and erode confidence in the euro, said Ackermann, who is also the CEO of Germany's Deutsche Bank, a major lender to Greece.

Tough xxxx. Your bank either loaned money to an entity without doing diligence on their ability to pay or knowing they could not pay. Either way the risk is yours - not the taxpayers - just as the mythical profits you extracted and paid yourself and your staff during the intervening years were yours.

You are now whining because the market's perception of the "value" of those loans is much lower than what you have them marked at. Despite having four years of foreknowledge of what having too much leverage does to a bank (c.f. our little crisis in 07 and 08) it appears you have done nothing meaningful to address this, nor have you marked your assets to market prices. We know the latter is true because if it were not you wouldn't care about this issue.

The correct thing to do is to force the banks that made idiotic loans to eat them.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
12:21 AM on 09/26/2011
There's two big reasons to do this; it will give the bankers/pols time to get away (think Blair) with their money, and the US can do it as a 'covert bailout' for the US banks who have terrible exposure.    It will however, extend the recovery time, and whether citizens and governments can survive that is questionable.  Faved.
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Peter007
08:40 PM on 09/25/2011
Everyone knows that Greece is bankrupt and in default. Its the politicians that want to keep their jobs that are lying to the public and claiming that there is a solution just up the road.

The general public knew there was a housing bubble before the politicians told them.
The general public knows that Greece is in default now.
08:17 PM on 09/25/2011
EFSF and IMF to the rescue...so who's funding the EFSF and IMF?

It's either printed money, more debt or empty promises.

@planbeconomics
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drbob601
Soylent Green is People
07:11 PM on 09/25/2011
""We need to find a mechanism where we can turn one euro in the EFSF into five, but there is no decision on how we could do that yet," another senior European official said on condition of anonymity."

Magic?
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John michael Adams
05:55 PM on 09/25/2011
money talks
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TruelyFedUp
Ethics is nothing else than reverence for life.
07:06 PM on 09/25/2011
Are you THE John michael Adams?!!!
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
05:36 PM on 09/25/2011
Debt is a symptom. Politicians often make issues more complicated than necessary. Greece did not have a problem before it joined the EU.

It is irresponsible for leaders like Merkel to misrepresent the Greek people. Merkel, Germany's Chancellor, has accused the Greeks of early retirement and general laziness. Because of her position, these "facts" are often repeated.

According to Eurostat (EU Official Statistics), the minimum retirement age in Greece is 61.4. In Germany it is 62.

A study by Mercer Human Resource Consulting reports that an employee in Greece with 10 years’ service receives 37 days’ leave each year (12 of them public holidays) while a comparable employee in Germany will receive 33 days leave (13 of them public holidays).

Reference: http://www.greekcity.com.au/content.cfm?id=6671
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Druuna
Half & half - legal immigrant in a strange land
06:32 PM on 09/25/2011
Merkel is the GERMAN chancellor. She represents GERMAN interests. Got it?
Germany pays for all those countries, like Greece, who do not pay anything into the Union, but want all benefits. If Greece is broken, it is the fault of the Greeks and not the fault of the Germans. If Germans can retire at 62 it is because they can afford to do so. If they have 30 days vacation, it is because they can afford to do so. The Greeks can't and now they expect others to pay for their laziness, their rampant corruption and overspending.
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TruelyFedUp
Ethics is nothing else than reverence for life.
07:00 PM on 09/25/2011
This harsh mindset is the result of the infusion into cultures of the capitalist precept of hoarding. Rather than a system that insists that every citizen has a fair share of the land & resources of their nation to make them self sustaining we have been seduced into this idea of hoarding of resources and wealth for the extreme self indulgence of the few. And at the same time we are taught to degrade and belittle and reject anyone or any group that finds themself at the narrow end of the money funnel. And thus it is fine to start wars, steal a poor country's land and resources and genocide the losers.

If we are such an advanced species why can't we give priority to the happiness of humans, rather than the pursuit of and hoarding of profits?
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
07:57 PM on 09/25/2011
"Total financial collapse, once a problem only for developing countries, has now come to Europe. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) is imposing its “austerity measures†on the outer circle of the European Union, with Greece, Iceland and Latvia the hardest hit."

"Dozens of countries have defaulted on their debts in recent decades, the most recent being Dubai. If the once lavishly-rich Arab emirate can default, more desperate countries can; and when the alternative is to destroy the local economy, it is hard to argue that they should not. That is particularly true when the creditors are largely responsible for the debtor’s troubles, and there are good grounds for arguing the debts are not owed. Greece’s troubles originated when low interest rates that were inappropriate for Greece were maintained to rescue Germany from an economic slump. .

“The European Union and International Monetary Fund have told them to replace private debts with public obligations, and to pay by raising taxes, slashing public spending and obliging citizens to deplete their savings. Resentment is growing not only toward those who ran up these debts … but also toward the neoliberal foreign advisors and creditors who pressured these governments to sell off the banks and public infrastructure to insiders.†Michael Hudson

Reference: http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=975
barbra1971
Sherry Hunt my hero
12:43 PM on 09/25/2011
BRUSSELS | Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:27am EDT

BRUSSELS Aug 12 (Reuters) - The European Commission called Slovakia's decision not to participate in a euro zone bailout of Greece "unusual" on Thursday, but said it would not speculate on any repercussions for the country at this stage.

Commission spokesman Amadeu Altafaj said there were no indications any other members of the euro zone would follow Slovakia's move, which will not have an impact on Greece receiving funds from the 110 billion euro aid fund.

"It's quite an unusual decision but I will not speculate as to any any political consequences," Altafaj said of the Slovakian parliament's vote on Wednesday against Greek support.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/08/12/eurozone-slovakia-greece-idUSBRU01096220100812
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AmySeow
12:42 PM on 09/25/2011
More money printing. They will just keep doing this until the entire economy collapses. They are refusing to even try any solutions.
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Wealth-Mr-Andrew-Costello/dp/1463523017/ref