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Rick Scott Backs Drug Tests For Welfare Beneficiaries, Public Workers And Himself


First Posted: 09/27/2011 4:20 pm EDT Updated: 03/03/2013 10:42 am EST

Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) is standing by his state's new policy of drug testing welfare recipients even after the American Civil Liberties Union challenged the scheme in a lawsuit and just 2.5 percent of beneficiaries flunked the first round of tests in July, triggering additional calls for the policy's repeal.

The governor highlighted the issue during a speech at a recent Conservative Political Action conference in Orlando, and added that he would like to see testing for public employees as well, a policy he previously enacted but later rescinded. In an email to HuffPost, Scott spokesman Lane Wright said that not only had the governor's stance not changed, but that he would be willing to subject himself to drug screening.

"Scott has said he is always willing to submit himself to a drug test," Wright wrote.

Scott's drug testing initiative is popular with Sunshine State voters and with lawmakers outside of Florida. State senators in Ohio and Oklahoma have said they will introduce welfare drug testing laws modeled on Scott's plan. The Ohio proposal would subject unemployment insurance beneficiaries to the screenings as well. A spokesperson for Ohio Republican State Sen. Tim Grendell did not respond when HuffPost asked why Grendell saw need for the tests.

And in South Carolina, Republican Gov. Nikki Haley said she still wants the unemployed to pass a drug test even after admitting her claim that hundreds of job applicants had recently failed tests turned out to be bogus.

Drug tests may not be a great way to save government dollars. According to a back-of-the-envelope analysis of the first round of drug tests by the Tampa Tribune, "the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800-$98,400 for the cash assistance program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year." That five-figure savings could be wiped out, however, by the as-yet unknown cost of administering the program and defending it in court.

HuffPost readers: Getting cash assistance in Florida? Submitted to a drug test? Tell us about it -- email arthur@huffingtonpost.com. Please include your phone number if you're willing to do an interview.

A report by the Foundation for Government Accountability, a conservative think tank in Florida, found that Scott's drug testing plan could save the state $9 million next year. The report noted that more than 500 applications were denied in August because the applicant did not complete a drug test. Applicants are required to pay for their own tests, which cost roughly $30. If they pass, they are reimbursed.

Elizabeth Lower-Basch, a policy analyst with the progressive Center for Law and Social Policy, said applicants who didn't take a drug test may not have had the money to pay the upfront cost. "People typically don’t apply for cash assistance until they're down to their last resources," Lower-Basch said. "They may, even if drug free, choose to keep the power on for a month, or to put gas in their car, rather than paying for the test."

The analysis extrapolated an annual savings rate based on the number of denied applications, but the average beneficiary receives benefits for just four and a half months, according to Joe Follick, communications director for the Florida Department of Children and Families. Folic said nearly 92,000 Floridians receive benefits and that the average household gets $240 a month. Only 20 percent of applicants wind up receiving benefits. Follic said he did not expect the 2.5 percent rate of flunked tests to change much as the drug screening program matures.

It's not all about saving money, though.

"The a cost benefit is of secondary importance to ensuring the cash assistance is going to the children," said Wright, the Scott spokesman. "That's what the money is intended for. It's also important to make sure we're not funding someone's drug habit with taxpayer dollars."

Arthur Delaney is the author of "A People's History of the Great Recession," HuffPost's first e-book.

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03:50 PM on 10/20/2011
The saddest thing about this piece of legislation that was endorsed by (R) Governor Rick Scott is the lack of statistical data used to support his idea. There is not one shred of evidence that links or would suggest that persons who receive this type of aid are more likely to be users of drugs. There are 67 counties in the State of Florida. Mr. Scott is telling the world although I don't have proof, but I can do what I want because I am a racist. THE GOP. BAD FOR AMERICA. BAD FOR 2012. BAD FOR OUR FUTURE.

There is financial aid, MGI Bill, unemployment benefits, WIC, grants, fellowships, etc.......
None of the type of government assistance I just mentioned requires the use of a drug screening.
The public sector and private sector are like comparing apples to oranges.
The public sector is protected by the US Constitution. The private sector is not protected under our Bill of Rights.

THE WORLD IS WAITING FOR YOUR EVIDENCE (R) RICK SCOTT. YOU HAVE NO LEG TO STAND ON AND THIS DECISION WILL BE REVERSED AND WE HOPE FOR THIS LAW TO BE REPEALED. WE DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR RADICAL IDEAS. WE WANT RATIONAL IDEAS.
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01:14 PM on 10/04/2011
Well, it makes perfect sense in GOPRickWorld:

Upon losing one's job, a worker who previously, for 5, 10, 20 years was a responsible, hard-working, trusted, loyal employee and productive member of society, IMMEDIATELY morphs into a lazy, shiftless, parasitic drug addict.

And they want to make this insanity public policy law.
01:25 PM on 10/02/2011
What is the problem? Soldiers have to be subjected to drug tets; they are government employees and Americans too! I have no problem with subjecting welfare recipients to blood tests as long as a positive test means treatment rather than punishment, that is, elimination from welfare roll or jail. However, after prositive test and a second positive test, then the recipient can go off the roll. Most importantly, the test must be administered at a public medical institution, not a private cooperation that is created and given the contract to syphone money from taxpayers in the name of drug test.
04:39 PM on 10/02/2011
That would be "Corporation."
09:15 AM on 10/03/2011
you don't have the same rights in the military as you do as a civilian, the military is not a democracy, it pretty much has it's own separate government from the rest of us.
08:38 AM on 10/02/2011
I have a real problem with the government, employers, and schools being able to demand bodily fluids from anyone of us. Whats next, body parts? I am a bit right wind and do believe in the "Slippery Slope" aspect of government. When do we put our foot down and stop the take over by the National Socialist movement? If we want to deny help to the "needy" then just deny it and stop hiding behind fake, irrelevant morals.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
09:10 AM on 10/01/2011
OK move forward with this logically. Shouldn't any entity that gets public funds and benefits be drug tested? Or is this policy only valid when it targets poor people?

We should drug test the CEO/CFOs and board of directors of all companies (which are people too) that receive tax insentives? How about the small and disadvantaged businesses that get subsidized contracts they should be tested too. How about the oil and agriculture companies with their tax breaks and loopholes - test them too!!!
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MarvinM
Where's the Ka-Boom?
08:34 AM on 10/01/2011
I have no doubt, if pressured, Rick Scott would indeed take the same drug test. Voluntarily.

Would he pressure the FL legislature to pass a law saying all FL governors must take a drug test, the results of which would been publicly released? I think not.

And if the governor has to take a drug test, why not all our elected leaders? When will Scott be pushing his "Drug Tests for Senators and Representatives" legislation?

Oh. That would be never.
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Karen BruceHolmes
Poor People Lack Good Lobbyists
11:17 PM on 09/30/2011
This is suppose to be government out of our lives? Puhleezzzzzz

The cost of testing people who cannot afford food and housing, much less drugs, seems the pinnacle of bad Big Government spending programs....
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tbassar1
That rug really tied the room together
06:17 AM on 09/30/2011
Gee, Gov Scott, we probably should also make sure that anyone applying for public assistance has no unpaid traffic tickets. I mean, why should the government give them money when they owe the government money? Better check with the IRS to make sure they don't owe the federal government money, too. Or how about this: Instead of public assistance, make these poor people who weren't criminal enough to defraud the governmet out of billions of dollars, take out a loan for the help they are to receive. They can have future paychecks automatically deducted to pay back the help they receive, and you could charge them interest, too! Rick Scott's only rival as an emetogenic is large doses of ipecac.
03:44 PM on 09/29/2011
All this indiscriminant drug testing going on nowadays is demeaning and an invasion of everyone's privacy. When people are expecting a drug test, there are products on the market that will rid the body of the substances anyway. I believe the only drug tests given should be for jobs that involve the public safety. Anyone who thinks a person is going to feed a drug habit with a puny little welfare check is delusional anyway. A lot of insurance companies don't test for marijuana anymore, because it is so mainstream, they finally realized they were turning away too many customers.
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MiamiMama
09:29 AM on 09/29/2011
What about the danger of all of the corporate executives that have cocktails during lunch then drive back to work? That seems to be a much bigger problem. But Rick's Scott's wife is happy with the decision.
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Ma Lucille
a crack ~ that's how the Light gets in
12:03 AM on 09/29/2011
"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis."
George W Bush - Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

now many of those 'hardworking peoples' are unemployed & even scorned for their loss - UI is an insurance - the Masters of the Universe who caused/profited from the crash should cover the extended costs.
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10:04 PM on 09/28/2011
This is a typical diversionary tactic by Republicans. Voters are upset, and they want justice, so Republicans jump in and offer up a convenient scapegoat -- single mothers on welfare, or uemployed people. Those people might be doing drugs, dammit, so let's test them before they get money. Meanwhile, the real villains in society -- thieves on Wall Street and in corporations -- hide from public view. This is Republicans pitting the lower- and middle-classes against each other. It's easy to drug test a welfare mom; it's difficult and costly to weed out the real criminals, who can afford high-priced lawyers. Someday maybe we can take the time to weed out welfare cheats, but for crying out loud, let's nail the real villains first.
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Karen BruceHolmes
Poor People Lack Good Lobbyists
11:20 PM on 09/30/2011
And in the 90s it was the so-called Cadillac driving hoochy mama that had 18 different kids by 18 different daddies... of course demonizing single moms is much easier than helping children living in poverty... and children are the ones that pay for these cruel propaganda campaigns
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TedEjr
If satire goes over your head, don't stand up
07:34 PM on 09/28/2011
From the article---"Scott has said he is always willing to submit himself to a drug test," Wright wrote (END)

Do these tests also detect psychotropic medication? So many of his actions are so bizarre, he must be taking psychotropic meds.
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Just-a-Guy
'cuz youd rather talk to someone you disagree with
05:27 PM on 09/28/2011
I have no problem with confirming welfare recipients aren't using their free money on dope.

Rick Scott may have ulterior motives, as many of you suggest.

But why would anyone be opposed to verifying that people aren't taking our tak dollars and putting it in their veins, or up their nose?
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Brian Gilmer
Good citizens make good citizens.
06:17 PM on 09/28/2011
Then the testing should happen after receiving government money not before.
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Just-a-Guy
'cuz youd rather talk to someone you disagree with
07:01 PM on 09/28/2011
Why?
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Marci Economidis
my job-creator already has a maid
07:33 PM on 09/28/2011
The issue for me is that originally Scott owned the testing facility and then when that came out he put it in his wife's name. Like that makes a difference.

Personally, I don't have a problem with testing anybody but I do have a problem with Scott charging $30 and that money going right back to himself.

Scott is trying ot make money on the poorest people in the state. A lot of the poor in Florida are elderly and disabled. I'm serious. They are.

Scott is using a stereotype to further enrich himself and satisfy his extremist base.

Go to Meals on Wheels and see what kind of people are getting aid, hint: it's not "Huggy Bear".
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sweetgreensnowpea
alien researcher with a notepad
04:47 PM on 09/28/2011
it is unfortunate there are no tests for the toxicity of bloated egos, the arrogance that made scott so brain numb and oblivious he had no idea how his health care company managed to bilk billions of tax payer dollars out of medicare and the government he so despises and compelled him to plead the 5th 75 times to save his bottom [line].
there are no drug tests for that.
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Marci Economidis
my job-creator already has a maid
07:36 PM on 09/28/2011
Thank you sweet for reminding us that Scott did plead the 5th. 75 times in the trial against his healthcare company for the largest Medicare fraud in history.

No way this guy "won" the election.
04:49 PM on 09/29/2011
I don't know how he got elected. I guess the people of Florida don't mind having a common criminal as their governor. I think there's a certain class of people in this country who will elect anyone as long as they promise to harass the poor and make their lives more miserable than they already are.