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Government Shutdown Averted, But Bigger Battles Are Still To Come

Congressional Approval Rating

TOM RAUM   09/28/11 04:44 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — After the U.S. avoided a government budget crisis in the nick of time for third time this year, the public seems fed up with the nonstop partisanship that led to the close calls.

Rising public disgust turns up in poll after poll that shows Congress' approval ratings far lower than President Barack Obama's. Weighing down his own numbers are a teetering economy and dour jobless numbers.

Yet the political grandstanding is likely to continue, even grow.

At the heart of every major standoff this year is a deep philosophical disagreement on the size and role of government. There are sharp disagreements on spending cuts and taxes, and on whether deficit reduction or more spending to prod a flailing recovery is a higher priority.

These are arguments sure to reverberate more loudly as the presidential election nears.

"I think this thing continues until next November's election," said James Thurber, a political scientist at American University. "With the campaign started, it's very hard to stop it."

As to the current state of political polarization, Thurber said: "There are very few people in the middle who are moderate and who can bring about compromises. And that creates an environment where you have this crisis approach to even fairly small issues."

Some 82 percent of people disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job, according to a Gallup poll released this week. The survey also shows record or near-record criticism of elected officials in general, government handling of domestic problems, the scope of government power and government waste of money.

The poll results may reflect the shared political power arrangement, with Democrats controlling the White House and the Senate and Republicans in charge of the House. "Partisans on both sides can thus find fault with government without necessarily blaming their own party," said Lydia Saad, senior Gallup poll editor.

A budget deadlock that raised the risk of a government shutdown this weekend was apparently broken when the Senate approved a short-term measure to fund the government through Nov. 18.

The Senate also passed a one-week spending bill, which the House was expected to approve Thursday. Next week, the House will debate the longer-term Senate measure keeping the government running through Nov. 18. House leaders have voiced support for the measure and Republican conservatives have not lodged objections.

But it will only get harder from now on.

The most recent fight had been over a relatively small amount of emergency disaster aid money and whether it should be offset, as tea-party influenced House Republicans want, by corresponding cuts in other programs. In November, the entire budget for the budget year getting under way Oct. 1 will be under review. The stakes will be huge.

The budget talks seem certain to be complicated by the shape of any proposal put on the table by a 12-member bipartisan supercommittee. It faces a Nov. 23 deadline for coming up with $1.5 trillion in deficit-reduction measures to take effect in 2013.

Both sides have dug in their heels. Obama's speeches have taken on more partisan, combative tones, and he's proposed a jobs stimulus program that would be paid for in part by raising taxes on the wealthy.

Obama includes the whole GOP field of presidential aspirants in addition to directly criticizing GOP congressional leaders. "I urge all of you to watch some of these Republican debates. It's a different vision about who we are, who we stand for," he said this week while raising money in the West.

At the same time, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, has declared tax increases "off the table."

Members of Congress have seen their standing tumble in the eyes of the public after their squabbling brought the government to near calamity three times since April.

Then, Boehner and Obama reached a budget deal little more than an hour before a government shutdown was to begin. On Aug. 2, Congress agreed to legislation raising the government's borrowing authority just hours before the Treasury was to run out of cash to pay all its bills, raising the risk of default.

The squabbling cost the U.S. a downgrade in its credit rating anyway from Standard & Poor's a few days later.

The rating service removed for the first time the triple-A rating the U.S. had held for 70 years. It blamed the weakened "effectiveness, stability and predictability" of U.S. policymaking and political institutions at a time of rising economic challenges.

In an Associated Press-GFK poll last month, 53 percent of those surveyed said they would like to see someone else win their congressional district.

The poll found that 46 percent approve of how Obama is doing his job, down from 52 percent in June. But it also showed congressional approval at a new low, 12 percent, with disapproval at 87 percent, a new high.

The philosophical dispute at the heart of every major domestic-policy standoff this year is the GOP's insistence that reducing the deficit is the priority and it must be done with spending cuts alone, not tax increases. Democrats want shorter-term spending to prop up the recovery, combined with a mix of longer-term tax increases and spending cuts to trim deficits.

It's not only divided the two parties in Washington, "it pretty much splits the country in half," said Michael Dimock, associate research director at the Pew Research Center. He said that when people were asked "what should be the priority, reducing the budget deficit or spending to help the economy to recover," Americans were nearly evenly divided with just under 50 percent on each side.

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Associated Press Deputy Director of Polling Jennifer Agiesta contributed to this report.

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09:23 PM on 09/28/2011
It's all about votes. It has little to do with ability. Can we find a person that can actually do the job no matter what type or color of people this candidate can attract? Ability to do the job should be the only critera. No wonder the "View" is so shallow.
04:21 PM on 09/28/2011
I think the emergency budget could be offset. Just stop the oil subsidies.
starfish123x2
Believe in something
04:29 PM on 09/28/2011
I have a better idea stop spending what you do not have. Be responsible.
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angryoldman
No1 told me when 2 run I missed the starting gun
03:54 PM on 09/28/2011
"We cuss Congress," Rogers said. "But they are all good(?) fellows at heart, and if they wasn't in Congress, why, they would be doing something else against us that might be even worse."
Will Rogers
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FabulousTahoe
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02:37 PM on 09/28/2011
The two party system in this country has to go: neither party can produce a candidate the people approve of and nobody else even gets a chance. If the whole political system is unavailable, the only thing left is for people to take to the streets like the #OccupyWallStreet protesters.
02:28 PM on 09/28/2011
Could prove problematic? Yes and the sun is a little warm. America gets the government it deserves. Evidently we have been very bad! The question is will anyone learn anything from this? As closed as minds presently are it's very doubtful. We're more likely to double down on stupid..
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
02:16 PM on 09/28/2011
right the dems want to move forward and the repubs want to repeal the 20th century

for instance - they don't want to spend money on storm damage/aid but are all for spending money on an investigation of planned parenthood
starfish123x2
Believe in something
04:33 PM on 09/28/2011
When can we see obama's budget and when will the liberals endorse his bill so we can get a vote. Then we can determine where to spend taxpayers money. Each congressman will have a chance to vote what he believes. Then we as citizens will decide in 2012 who has the correct vision. Tax and spend or less government and cut spending.
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
05:00 PM on 09/28/2011
oh get off of that - those talking points are old and completely transparent.

the repubs are more interested in investigating PP and PBS than coming up with a budget that can pass.
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
05:01 PM on 09/28/2011
your congressmen aleady voted to lower taxes on the rich and do away with medicare and medicaid
02:07 PM on 09/28/2011
These are artificial crisis. The real crisis is being played by Wall Street.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
12:55 PM on 09/28/2011
Since almost every Blue Dog has announced they aren't running for reelection, it's time for the Dems to make a big deal about their new, reformed, LIBERAL candidates, who vow to bring back America to the prosperity we enjoyed before the Conservative Movement began destroying our freedoms, job market, and economy.
starfish123x2
Believe in something
04:36 PM on 09/28/2011
Yes obama has only been a bystander for three years! Please take that course of action. Better to play the class warfare card, its your only chance.
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jsgaetano
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06:44 PM on 09/28/2011
"Play" the class warfare card? Conservatives have been playing that since Reagan. Funny how conservatives continue pretending the over $13 Trillion Reagan-Bush-Bush National Debt was created by "teh libr00lz".
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jsgaetano
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06:45 PM on 09/28/2011
BTW, Obama is a conservative. It's funny conservatives aren't rallying to keep him in charge, seeing how he's been pandering to them since he took office.
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tomteboda
12:33 PM on 09/28/2011
Congress cannot make anyone happy because Americans are divided into two camps. One wants more government, more government spending, and more government intrusion into our lives. They support higher taxes, heavier regulation of all commerce and industry and greater reliance on public welfare programs in all spheres.

The other group wants less government, less government spending, less government intrusion. They support low taxes, sensible regulation that doesn't stifle industry or commerce, and reduced reliance on public welfare programs.

The two viewpoints are mutually incompatible, and as they each make up at least 30% of the population, that's a guaranteed angry 60% before Congress even sits down to talk.

Incidentally, this concept that government is "broken" when representatives and Senators have to talk and negotiate is a bizarre new idea. Our entire political system was designed specifically to allow groups, both large and small, to have a say in legislation before its passed and affects everyone.
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wrabbitt
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12:54 PM on 09/28/2011
You failed to mention the lobbyists piece of the pie, government can't work for either 30% of the population if the power has already been swayed to the corporate side by lobbyists.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
12:58 PM on 09/28/2011
You mean a bunch of Faux-Americans are Saudi-funded hate groups who hypocritically demand Big Gubment jobs, but preach that Big taking money from Gubment is morally wrong... while Real America wants to keep Socialism Security, expand Medicare to cover everyone in the nation, and to preserve the Constitutional rights and freedoms written of by our liberally-minded Founding Fathers.
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wrabbitt
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01:04 PM on 09/28/2011
Single payer for health insurance would lower premiums 75% and take lobbyists out of the equation. I paid into MY Social security for 50 years, its not entitlement its my money.
11:52 AM on 09/28/2011
From a Republican perspective the public's loss of confidence and faith in the legislature is just fine. That's been their goal all along.
starfish123x2
Believe in something
12:09 PM on 09/28/2011
The Republicans are doing as their constituents requested.After two years of spending by the dems in power, give taxpayers a voice in the process.
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Larry Lambert
You're for America or for the t-party
12:32 PM on 09/28/2011
to undermine the USA?
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wrabbitt
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12:55 PM on 09/28/2011
Two years of spending by Dems? What about Shrub spending like a drunken sailor for 8 years?
11:24 AM on 09/28/2011
It's still more popular than the Nancy Pelosi-led Congress, which had a 9% approval rating. Of course, the Republican-led Congress didn't have tax cheats writing the tax laws.
11:53 AM on 09/28/2011
And from what orifice did that number appear?
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:01 PM on 09/28/2011
LOL... Republicans have as much credibility on the tax cheat issue as Wesley Snipes.
02:22 PM on 09/28/2011
How do you explain Charlie Rangel? Nancy Pelosi promised the most ethical Congress in history. Nancy Pelosi promised to drain the swamp. Nancy Pelosi was bitching about a culture of corruption. So why did she continue to defend Rangel?
11:23 AM on 09/28/2011
These stories always crack me up. While congress approval rating is at an all time low congress always has a low rating. That is because these polls are based on national surveys and congressional races are local. If you take that same smaple of voters and also asked them how their own congressman is doing the approval goes way up. And that is because people always think it is the other members of congress who are at fault. Do not beleive that because the ratings are so low that the dems are not in as much trouble as they were in 2010.
11:18 AM on 09/28/2011
FIRE Congressional Lawmakers (Vote them out)!!!! Please sighn the petition!!! http://wh.gov/4Dk
11:24 AM on 09/28/2011
Why sign a petition just vote them out. All of them.
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wrabbitt
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12:59 PM on 09/28/2011
Because the next ones already know lobbyist money from their campaigns,Laws need to be changed, at the ballot box or the hard way. America can't stand much more. Angry people are much harder to govern than sheep,
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
01:01 PM on 09/28/2011
Yes, vote all the conservatives out!
03:46 PM on 09/28/2011
Need 5000 signatures!! Sighn the petition! http://wh.gov/4Dk
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11:08 AM on 09/28/2011
The debate about the size and role of the federal government has been raging since before we adopted the constitution... What is different this time is that proponents of non-intervening small government have taken no compromise positions, and fail to acknowledge that their past actions of deficit spending during periods of economic growth significantly contributed to the federal debt crisis, and put the country in a situation where it was unprepared to deal with the recent economic crisis. In fact, deregulation was a direct contributor to the financial meltdown. While I agree that we need to limit the federal government, I do not agree that we should not allow deficit spending during periods of with stagnant or declining economies.
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sippewissett
We are ALL Americans, not just the noisy few.
11:08 AM on 09/28/2011
A "deeply unpopular Congress"? Kick the TPers out in 2012 so we un-fang the GOP and can get back to work turning the country around instead of always pushing against The Party of No.
11:29 AM on 09/28/2011
The party of no was the democrats during the Bush administration. Why does the fact the republicans say no to the president surprise you?? The dems and liberals whined for eight years about Bush and everything he did and how much money he was spending. Yet when this president triples the spending you all go right along with it and scream more, more, more. You are all hypocrits. And he is done in one.
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wrabbitt
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01:01 PM on 09/28/2011
2012 will belong to Obama, the teapublicans have already shot themselves in the foot.