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Occupy Wall Street Protesters Settle In, Despite Weather And Police Clashes

Occupy Wall Street

First Posted: 09/29/11 03:11 PM ET Updated: 11/29/11 05:12 AM ET

NEW YORK -- The members of Occupy Wall Street are not allowed to use megaphones, so they've adopted a low-tech workaround.

At their twice-daily general meetings in Zuccotti Park in Manhattan's financial district, whoever has an announcement to make speaks slowly and clearly, with a pause every few seconds, so that everyone within earshot of the speaker can repeat back what he or she just said -- amplifying it for the crowd of hundreds to hear.

That crowd, which in some ways resembles an indie-rock concert audience -- mostly young people, with a smattering of Baby Boomers, and a higher than average quotient of hair dye -- has been gathered here, steps from Wall Street, since September 17. They've been addressing a mishmash of concerns and causes -- from war to income inequality to corporate influence in politics -- that has left many onlookers bewildered.

The occupiers' speak-and-repeat technique is time-consuming, but their willingness to use it suggests a group not easily discouraged. Many of the protesters have been camped in this park for what is now nearly two weeks, sleeping on foam pads, cardboard boxes, and a ragtag collection of mattresses and furniture.

Despite lousy weather, media skepticism and clashes with the police -- including an ugly incident this past Saturday in which an officer pepper-sprayed several young women during a march -- the faithful seem to be in it for the long haul.

"Indefinitely," said Shon Botado, one of the protesters staffing the first aid station, a couple of tables spilling over with donated cold medicine, vitamins, tampons and other paraphernalia, when asked how long he was planning to be there. "Until change is made to the financial structure."

What that change might look like, no one can say for sure.

Whatever one might say about Occupy Wall Street, it's hard to accuse it of being a single-issue movement. The crowds of people in and around Zuccotti Park have as many different reasons for being there as you can name.

Some said they have come to register their dismay over the environment. Some are there to protest military occupations in other countries. At least a few were moved to attend after the September 21 execution of Troy Davis.

But economic concerns seem paramount for many. Several hand-lettered placards express outrage that banks and bankers weren't punished more severely in the wake of the financial crisis. And the protesters speak often of the national wealth gap -- the vast differences in income that separate the richest 1 percent of Americans from everybody else.

But the group is also devoting considerable energy simply to keeping itself going.

There are about 200 people sleeping in this one-block park every night, eating donated food and running into nearby restaurants to use the bathroom. An internal structure has emerged, one that seems to be getting more sophisticated every day.

At a megaphone-free meeting Wednesday afternoon, delegates from various committees stood and offered updates, assessments, encouragement and advice.

The Comfort committee, which handles bedding and clothing, needed donations. A woman from the Food committee said that her group was just fine on donations, but asked if anyone was willing to make their kitchen available.

"We have a lot of food that could be cooked and brought back here," she said. It was not an outlandish request: A number of New Yorkers have opened their apartments to the protesters, letting them shower and charge their electronics indoors.

Someone from Community Relations reported that local Financial District residents had voted down a resolution against the protesters at a community board meeting -- a welcome signal of support. But, the speaker added, some locals were still concerned about noise at night, so members of Occupy Wall Street were going to sit down and meet with them.

One young woman weighed in with a grim weather report: The forecast called for rain, followed by plummeting temperatures on Friday. "We are going to have to pick some useful strategies to deal with this weather that we know is coming," she said.

Someone stood up to announce a group meditation session happening later that afternoon. Someone tried to lead the group in a song, which was tabled for after the meeting. Someone else declared that his ukulele had gone missing.

It wasn't exactly a Parliamentary session -- and with everything first being said, then repeated en masse, it took twice as long as it otherwise might have -- but most of those present seemed committed to the process.

With the group's priorities so diverse, it's unclear how long the Occupy Wall Street movement will actually stick around. The group has yet to formalize a list of demands or conditions under which it might disperse.

Yet the protesters seem to be thinking in terms of months, not days. Botado, who has been in Zuccotti Park since the movement launched on September 17, said that the group is open to the idea of spending the winter there.

And while the protesters' run-ins with law enforcement seem like they might deter curious outsiders -- in addition to the pepper-spraying incident, at least 80 members of Occupy Wall Street have been arrested in the past two weeks, and several people have been injured by police batons -- many of the people present on Wednesday said they didn't get involved until after these confrontations.

While this is going on, the cause is gaining momentum outside New York. Similar protests have been held or are being planned in dozens of other cities.

The lack of clear direction may eventually prove a stumbling block to the occupiers, but the mood in lower Manhattan this week was one of cheerful energy. A sign -- one of perhaps 100 strewn about the square, or being waved to and fro by demonstrators -- read, "DEMOCRACY MAY BE HARD BUT AT LEAST WE ARE DOING IT."

"What's change?" said Rob, a protester who said he has worked in minimum wage jobs all his life, and asked not to be identified by his full name. "What isn't change? We're here. That's change."


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NEW YORK -- The members of Occupy Wall Street are not allowed to use megaphones, so they've adopted a low-tech workaround. At their twice-daily general meetings in Zuccotti Park in Manhattan's fina...
NEW YORK -- The members of Occupy Wall Street are not allowed to use megaphones, so they've adopted a low-tech workaround. At their twice-daily general meetings in Zuccotti Park in Manhattan's fina...
 
 
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01:25 PM on 10/20/2011
if we ignore all the claims about hippies,

anti antisemiti­sm, communism,
the main agenda of occupy wall street is

to make a voice against the
government about the economic disparity

and unemployme­nt in America,
there may be communists or even hippies in

the crowd, but the main ideal is to

correct capitalism­, not to remove it,

america cannot exist without it. Critics

are saying that they must come forward

with demands,
but they are telling what is the problem

and it is the government­'s job to solve

them,
take an example, it there is some problem

with a product( here the
economy) it is the job of the supplier to

rectify it, the customers just
'demands' that the product be rectified,

that is the 'demand'. The general public

is not understand how the economy works,

it is the guys who make the regulation­s

(or deregulati­on) who know how it works.

So
occupy is more or less also about the

rights and equality in American economy.

If the government is least interested in

addressing these issues, it is the

government­'s responsibi­lity to come up

with some action plan, and let the people

see through it, and accept it, not the

other way round, so all this demand for a

'demand' is just hogwash,
01:24 PM on 10/20/2011
The general public doesn't

understand how the economy works, it is the guys who make the regulation­s(or deregulati­on)

who know how it works. So
If the government is least interested in addressing these issues, it is the government­'s

responsibi­lity to come up with some action plan, and let the people see through it, and accept

it, not the other way round, so all this demand for a 'demand' is just hogwash, Instead we have

a blinding divide and conquer strategy where obama 'embraces' the protesters, making it a rep,

dem issue overnight.
11:51 PM on 10/11/2011
people seem very confused
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SOTM
The kids they dance and shake their bones
01:29 PM on 10/11/2011
Rally behind the re-implimentation of Glass-Steagall.
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08:53 AM on 10/11/2011
"The group has yet to formalize a list of demands or conditions under which it might disperse." What the heck do these people want? For the 1% to say "Oh, I'm sorry I got a good education, worked my butt off and made a lot of money... Here, you can have it." Wall Street won't be able to do anything about whatever it is they're all upset about. They should be protesting in Washington or better yet, disperse and go get a job. I don't know a lot of employed people who have the time to hang out in a park all day protesting against the rich.
08:55 AM on 10/13/2011
I'm employed, married, own a home, and am an ordained deacon. I go down to Zuccotti Park as often as possible to march and discuss and stand with the other protesters. Everyone who claims to not understand what the Occupiers want is being purposefully obtuse. The economic and political power in America has become so concentrated that both the economy and the democracy are failing. The 99% want to restore the both the economy and democracy. Working hard, and studying hard didn't fix it. Voting for candidates who said all the right words, didn't fix it. So peaceful protest is the next available option.
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09:36 AM on 10/13/2011
I appreciate your reply, and I'm not being "obtuse". Other than awareness, there doesn't seem to be any goals or demands that the protesters are wanting. Unfortunately, I don't think these protests will change a thing because people on Wall Street don't make the laws. I own a graphic design business and I pay nearly half of everything I make in taxes. Believe me, I want reforms just like everyone else, but until we get the right people in office to make these reforms this country will continue on a downward spiral. Seems the only thing left to do is pray. God bless you, Adam.
08:43 AM on 10/11/2011
Word on Wall Street is that the protesters are ordering in loads of flesh filled sandwiches and cheesy, pepperoni pizzas. By now, most people have heard that animal consumption is one of the leading causes of world hunger and global warming. It seems that most of the 99% could care less about the people who are so poor they didn’t even make the chart. http://thedownstreamvegan.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/protest-like-its-1963-eat-like-its-2011/
08:56 AM on 10/13/2011
Actually if you BOTHER TO LOOK at the Occupy Wall St site, under donations, it requests ordering vegetarian options for the occupiers.
01:49 PM on 10/13/2011
I bothered. There should not be any animal abuse and oppression going on. Plenty of people are eating animals there. Animals need a voice on wall street. You cannot enslave any member of society and expect to live in peace. Why do people get so defensive when their own victims are given even a small voice?

"To recognize connections would mean feeling sympathy for another being. This requires acknowledging the privileged position one occupies in the world, the privilege created by inequality."

- Carol J. Adams, "The Pornography of Meat"

http://thedownstreamvegan.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/why-are-we-here-as-a-country-yet-again/
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robjh1
We Have Met the Enemy and he is Us: Pogo
12:28 AM on 10/10/2011
Gerald Rivera of Fox News was nearly attached Sunday while trying to report on the protesters in Zuccotti Park. He eventually had to leave the area.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UVXsgZj2do
06:44 PM on 10/09/2011
The “Occupy Wall Street” movement and the “Tea Party” movement are examples of citizens becoming active in politics. On political activism and the news media, Bob Gibson, Executive Director of the University of Virginia’s Sorensen Institute for Political Leadership, recently said: “It’s everyone’s obligation to follow the news as best they can, as they understand it, as they want to become involved in their communities. What we need are people who are going to find outlets that they trust and participate in their community’s affairs. The more people who are turned off by politics and turned off by the news of politics, it just leaves politics in the hands of fewer and fewer special interests. The more people who become involved and stay informed, the better off we are.” (Gibson appeared on the Charlottesville, VA, politics interview program Politics Matters with host and producer Jan Madeleine Paynter discussing journalism http://bit.ly/pm-gibson)
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03:10 PM on 10/06/2011
The US has one of the best systems in the world, but it needs a bit of tweaking.
The Politicians have to work for the people who voted for them, not for the Corporations who bought them.
10:00 AM on 10/08/2011
How very true
ajwriter
Healthy equilibrium, healthy democracy
06:48 PM on 10/08/2011
If everyone got out to vote, it would be a lot harder to ignore the people. Right now, elections are decided on who shows up, not who is in the majority.

These demonstrations show that voting isn't the only responsibility we have in democracy. But you can't skip the voting, either.

Someone ought to be working these protests making sure people are registered to vote, and that they understand that every race from the city counsel person to their state congressperson to the President is important. If young voters had understood that in the midterms, things would be very different now.

Remember to vote,
Remember Diebold.

With you in spirit.
09:01 AM on 10/13/2011
Which of the two bought and paid for candidates would actually take steps to limit the power and income of the handful of people and corporations that funded their campaign? Which of the two available candidates would lock their door to lobbyists?

If voting worked, we wouldn't have been building these the massive unbalances for the last thirty years.
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08:08 AM on 10/27/2011
Diebold - We vote so you don't have to!
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Gadgetman
No sense of humor? That's not funny!
11:06 AM on 10/04/2011
Man, what a difference between these protestors and the anti-Vietnam war protestors. In comparison, today's protestors seem pretty directionless and pathetic. They can't even articulate what they want their protest to accomplish.
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03:06 PM on 10/06/2011
The number one thing they want is to get politicians hands out of the pockets of big money.
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Ron666wood
Liberal Eisenhower X-Republican
05:43 PM on 10/10/2011
You mean they haven't been funded and given their "talking points" like the T-Party? It's a group of angry people that are fed up a government that is impotent in dealing with a crisis and their penchant to just poin the finger at another branch. This is what a true "grass roots" movement...not an orchastrated one. But it's definitely not conservative, because conservatives only permit a SINGLE message and everyone reads the same script.
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Gadgetman
No sense of humor? That's not funny!
12:16 AM on 10/11/2011
Yeah, I get that "they're" angry. A lot of us are. I sure am and I'm advocating that people take action and move their $ to community banks. I am hoping that a leadership emerges that can focus people on action-oriented strategies like that one. What tends to happen at progressive protests is that a primary messages gets diluted because anyone with a gripe starts to voice it and the focus gets lost. And yes, Regressitives don't seem to have that problem because they don't have any minds. They are just the follower side of the authoritarian personality.
mistergg69
obama 2012
10:25 PM on 10/03/2011
BANKSTERS GOT LUXURY....WORKERS GOT POVERTY
10:09 AM on 10/03/2011
Remember the Middle East protest..?? That's exactly how it brought down all them dictators.
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muddywood
First the truth, then opinion.
12:10 AM on 10/04/2011
And now Egypt is run by a military dictatorship.
Until the Jihadis take over.
09:11 AM on 10/13/2011
That's always how it goes when the powerful are too obtuse to listen to the people until they resort to violence. That is part of why the Occupy protesters are purposefully peaceful. Good government takes mutual respect and good communication, not things found in a revolution OR a plutocracy.
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Gadgetman
No sense of humor? That's not funny!
11:07 AM on 10/04/2011
These protests are lethargic compared to wants going on in the middle east.
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Ron666wood
Liberal Eisenhower X-Republican
05:44 PM on 10/10/2011
No, they are peaceful...except for the police excessess.
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05:37 PM on 10/02/2011
It's sad that New York city imposes such harsh conditions on the protesters:

Not allowed to erect tents (Boston, MA does allow this, for example),
Not allowed to use a megaphone
Entraps protesters in unwarranted mass arrests
Condones unwarranted police brutality

And many other things that Mayor Bloomberg (himself a Wall St. 1%-er) has done to discourage and impede the peaceful, democratic protests.

Fortunately, there is tremendous support "on the ground" from small business and individuals all over New York city.
04:36 PM on 10/02/2011
This is America. Peaceful protests, uniting in a single cause. This is the real America, not the America that the Wall St. Barons and war machine politicians have created. I thought that this would happen soon. now I am glad I can say officially that the New Revolution is here.
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04:13 PM on 10/02/2011
"Now is the winter of our discontent..."

You will never oppress freedom totally...give up now Wall Street and all the greedy of heart...your time is nearly over. No matter what the cost...greed must die.