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Obama's Approval Rating Is Underwater, But Don't Try To Predict 2012 Yet

First Posted: 09/30/2011 3:44 pm Updated: 11/30/2011 4:12 am

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama's job approval ratings have hit new lows over the past month, yet he continues to hold slight leads over Republican candidates in head-to-head polling. Of the two, the approval ratings are a slightly better measure of Obama's re-election prospects, signaling a very tough contest ahead. But history tells us to be wary of both as predictors of the 2012 outcome. It is still very early.

The president's approval rating has risen and fallen over the past year, with brief bumps up in January, following passage of a budget deal and the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, and again in May, following the killing of Osama bin Laden. Since the debt ceiling debacle in August, however, the public's approval of Obama has dropped to new lows. Our trend estimate chart, based on all available public polls, gives him a rating of roughly 42 percent approval to 53 percent disapproval.

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Obama's net negative job rating stands in contrast to head-to-head polls showing him leading the front-running Republican candidates. For example, he runs slightly ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in seven of eight national telephone polls conducted in September. The HuffPost-Pollster trend estimate, filtered for telephone polls, gives Obama a lead of 3.7 percentage points (47.6 percent to 43.9 percent).

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Obama does even better matched against Texas Gov. Rick Perry. The same eight national telephone polls conducted in September show Obama leading by margins of 5 to 11 percentage points.

The contrast between the two sets of results has some asking which is a better indicator of Obama's re-election chances, the head-to-head polling or the individual approval ratings? The answer is that approval ratings are a better indicator for now, although neither polling measure provides a reliable prediction a year or more before the election.

Political scientists Chris Wlezien and Bob Erikson have examined the issue for "The Timeline of Presidential Election Campaigns," their forthcoming book on election forecasting, which is a subject they've studied for decades. A chart from their book (reproduced below with permission) shows that the predictive power of head-to-head "horse-race" polls increases gradually over the last 300 days of the campaign. These kinds of polls are highly predictive of the outcome in the final month before the election, but at 300 days out their predictive power is virtually zero.

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Election Day 2012 is still 402 days away, so as political scientist and occasional HuffPost blogger Brendan Nyhan put it a few weeks ago, "we shouldn't make too much of where Obama stands against his likely Republican opponents right now."

Further statistical analysis by Wlezien and Erikson shows that job approval ratings are slightly better predictors than horse-race polls until about 100 days before the election, but that the differences are small, and neither can predict the winner with much confidence a year or more out.

At the request of The Huffington Post, Wlezien and Erikson checked the data for presidential elections from 1948 to 2008. They found that, although job approval ratings at this point in the election cycle show some correlation with the ultimate vote for the candidate of the president's party, that correlation is slight (0.3 to 0.4) and not significantly different from zero.

What all this means is that none of these polling numbers can predict the winner of the presidency a year or more before the election. "Nothing much matters statistically at this early date, 13 or 14 months before the election," Erikson wrote via email. "Not approval, not trial heat polls, and not the economy."

The economy matters a great deal, of course, in driving Obama's current approval rating. It will also figure greatly in the choices that voters make in November 2012. "If we know that the economy will not improve even from today's low benchmark," Erikson added, "or that Obama will continue to flail, then we might start predicting a Republican win in 2012."

Obama will face a very difficult re-election campaign next year. That much is certain, but predictions of the outcome are premature. It's just too early.

Earlier on HuffPost:

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09:58 PM on 11/15/2011
What it means is that he will be first to use his new jobs plain he will be first in line
indamiddle
I do not support single party rule
12:09 PM on 10/15/2011
The problem is Obama has not seen the lowest numbers yet......The trend is more important than the snapshot
01:13 PM on 10/10/2011
For once the HP has one thing right...you can't tell anything at this point. However, America realizes that this man doesn't have what it takes to run a country. He's going down.
11:43 AM on 10/07/2011
I have to give him a B+ for his hard work and determination to do the right thing in spite of the opposition on the right. I am 70 yrs old and have never seen a harder working president. Yes he has made a few mistakes but there is so much on his plate with hardly any cooperation from the reps. I love this country and want us to continue to lead the free world, and he has done great things in foreign affairs, although I do believe we need to get out of Afghanistan asap. I am a fiscal conservative, an independent voter and putting it bluntly...I could never vote for any of those candidates put up so far by the republicans. they are are all incompetent......
01:14 PM on 10/10/2011
B+? B+? I think you need to go back into that cave in Afghanistan. On your last point, any one of those candidates will mop the floor with him...remember, he won't have his teleprompter in a debate.
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Mary Nissenson
07:03 PM on 10/06/2011
Good grief! Could we look at the central fallacy in all these polls please? The issue, in any election, is never how a candidate is doing in the abstract, but how he/she fares, in contrast to their opponent.

It's like saying that 58% of people surveyed don't like brussel sprouts. Ok. I'd buy that. But ask them if they prefer it to elephant dung, and I suspect the future for those little sprouts brightens considerably. And "elephant dung" comes mighty close to how even Repubicans, themselves, appear to view their current choice of candidates. (If not, why such a clamor to have someone... anyone.... jump into the race a provide them an alternative?)

The cards may seem stacked against Obama, but I'd play his hand any day, rather than Cain's, Perry's or Romney's. Obama's at least playing with a full deck and, so unlike the Republican field these days, isn't replete with jokers.
01:15 PM on 10/10/2011
I guess if more incompetent than Jimmy Carter is a full deck, his is stacked the wrong way.
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Mary Nissenson
04:01 PM on 10/10/2011
Let me build a bridge to another card metaphor for you.

Won. No Trump.
12:36 PM on 10/05/2011
Rasmussen this morning has 43% strongly disapprove with 42% approval and only 19% strongly approve. When you have more people saying they strongly disapprove than their total approval it is not good news for for the president. And if things do not get better fast those numbers are going to go lower.It won't be long until the only support this president will have left is the unions and those kids protesting wall street.
12:27 PM on 10/05/2011
It is no wonder that his approval rating is so low. Did anybody else catch the comment about he did not regret the whole solyndra debacle in the interview with George Steponopolis? Even though the paper trail clearly shows that many of his economic team did not agree that it was worthwhile!! It shows how out of touch with reality he is. If he does not care that he flushed more than a half of a billion dollars of the peoples money he deserves to lose the support of the people. I used to think that when his whole economic team resigned he might be changing his stripes and get us to a realistic fiscal party. Now I realize they left because he is in the stratosphere in regards to economic policy. I do not know about the rest of you but I do not want a dime of my money heading to Washington right now.
12:06 PM on 10/05/2011
I have but one comment.
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11:48 AM on 10/05/2011
Oh right, it doesn't mean anything. Stick your head in the sand some more. How low can it go is all I have to say.
thatgirljd
It must be really easy to be a liberal!
11:19 PM on 10/04/2011
We are circleing the drain right now , another 4 years we will be flushed away.
thatgirljd
It must be really easy to be a liberal!
11:13 PM on 10/04/2011
He gets re-elected we are all going to be living in camps. It will be the end of America as we know it.
08:57 PM on 10/04/2011
I don't care how bad his ratings are at the moment I just cannot see myself voting for any party that has 1- The Tea Party nuts or 2. Cantor as a part of its gang. Nope not feeling it for the Reps sorry!
12:14 PM on 10/05/2011
It is a shame that you vote party over what is or is not good for the country. As bad as things were at the end of the Bush administration, this president has made them worse. To read your comments show you put failed ideology over anything else and that is just sad. And it is one of the biggest problems in America today. That is why most people in this country are independants and why it is us who always swing the elctions. We realize that both political parties are blowing smoke. And it is up to us once agian to decide which smoke is toxic. It is a shame we missed it on that last one in 08 but 2012 things will change.
04:21 PM on 10/06/2011
I call it as I see it! The Republican Party has managed to hijack my Religion and use it for their own gain. They profess to be Christian and then Act like the Devil clapping when ask if they would let a person on life support die if they did not have health Ins. Shame on them and Shame on the Churches and Preachers who are allowing the Republicans to use them just to get votes. This Christian Independent is not a fool and will not be lead by the noes by any group stomping on my believes just to gain my vote. Americans want them to work with the Democrats the key word here is work Together not tear this Country down just to satisfied your egomaniac Republican Party.
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04:01 PM on 10/03/2011
if they the Repubs go with one of their lunatics O will win if they come up with anything even approaching normal he will be gone. He sold people a complete bill of goods last time as bait&switch politicians are known to do and there is always a price for that.
12:19 PM on 10/05/2011
The lunnies are there to be used as a lightning rod for the left. They are there as a typical political ploy to force the other side in using resources. Both political parties do it and it sure gets the other guys panties in a bunch. Us independants use it as a source of entertainment and allows us more fodder to make fun of both sides. Better than reality tv. Don't worry the guy that comes out of the gop will be a adequate foe and will most likely become president.
RightRealDeal
Keep The Change
01:07 PM on 10/03/2011
Three years of outright failure is the real story, and all you need to know.
ZWTARocks
Anybody but a Republican 2014-2024
01:20 PM on 10/03/2011
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT...the three years of the regressionist republicans putting political interests ahead of the best interest of the nation is ALL WE NEED TO KNOW! That and republican ideology and policies is what got us into this mess in the first place...this is important because those running for 2012 are running on the same ideology and policies...putting such people into office to carry out polices that have already proven to be destructive would be insane...OBAMA 2012...ABAR 2012.
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09:10 PM on 10/03/2011
Too bad the Republican followers are just loyalists rather than realists. IT'S MORE THAN JUST A PARTY, IT'S ABOUT THE AMERICAN FUTURE. If some Republicans can admit that the 'trickle-down' theory doesn't work (i.e. mobile oil, etc.) and that 'less government' led to the glutton of corporate America (i.e. Enron, ect.), perhaps we can move forward.
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caution08
let no-one change your beliefs!
02:38 PM on 10/03/2011
those clown repubs were put in office by the people to find jobs , they did the opposite. the repubs are the ones missing the economy up. they walk around signing pledges like clowns , they havent created not one job. you have Cantor running the house , cause the speaker of the house is afraid of the greasy faced clown. Bush lowered taxes for the riichest people , he said it would create jobs and it will trickle down , hes a liar. Wall Street was screwed up when Obama to office.
ZWTARocks
Anybody but a Republican 2014-2024
03:49 PM on 10/03/2011
...not only have they NOT CREATED EVEN ONE JOB they are destroying jobs in the government sector...this is unconscionable in this economic environment...it would be different if they had good reasons for doing it but they are only doing it because of politics...OBAMA 2012...ABAR 2012.