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Rick Perry As Pro-Immigrant? Not Quite, Students Say

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First Posted: 10/03/11 06:19 PM ET Updated: 12/03/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Maria Fernanda Cabello, a 20-year-old junior at Texas A&M University, moved to Texas from Mexico when she was 12 years old. She and her family came into the country on tourist visas that later expired, and she is now undocumented. Cabello graduated fifth in her class in high school and is now studying political science, with plans to go to law school when she graduates in 2013.

After that, she isn't sure what she'll do. The governor of her state, GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry, helped her go to college by signing a law in 2001 to provide in-state tuition to some undocumented students. But he is not helping her, or any other undocumented immigrants, with much else. Because Perry does not support the federal DREAM Act -- which would give students like Cabello a path to legal status-- his supposedly "soft on immigration" stances do not extend to helping undocumented young people work in the United States. Even after the state pays to educate them.

"That's what's a little upsetting about Rick Perry," Cabello said. "We're all very thankful that he signed the in-state tuition into law, but at the same time he says he does not support the federal DREAM Act. So we're kind of in limbo."

Perry is being criticized by both sides for his immigration policies, which are more centrist than most of the Republican field but still far to the right of Democrats. From the left, critics point out that most of his policies are tough on undocumented immigration, with attempts to crack down on community policing strategies that help undocumented immigrants. From the right, candidates attack him for being soft on immigration, arguing his in-state tuition bill is a magnet for undocumented immigration.

Other candidates have hit Perry hard for signing the in-state tuition law, which allows anyone who attended at least three years of high school in Texas to get in-state tuition, provided they sign an affidavit saying they will apply for legal status as soon as they can. But beyond that law, his positions on immigration, for the most part, mirror those of other Republican presidential candidates.

"Perry is no moderate on immigration," said Frank Sharry, executive director of pro-immigration reform group America's Voice. "He's not as extreme as the rest of the Republican field, but he's no moderate. He always says 'secure the border first' before we can talk about more reform. 'Secure the border' in Republican speak means comprehensive immigration reform -- never."

Texas was the first state to give in-state tuition, in a relatively non-controversial vote in 2001 (only four members of the legislature dissented). Twelve states followed over the next decade: California, Utah, New York, Washington, Oklahoma, Illinois, Kansas, New Mexico, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Maryland and Connecticut.

The laws are far from "amnesty," or blanket legalization for undocumented immigrants -- they don't even help students toward legal status. In fact, Perry opposes bills that would allow undocumented immigrants to gain legal status, such as comprehensive immigration reform or the federal DREAM Act, which would allow some undocumented young people to get work authorization and green cards in exchange for going to college or joining the military.

Perry repeatedly defended his law in recent weeks, taking jabs from fellow Republican candidates who call it an incentive for more immigrants to move to the United States. Perry says it was important to help undocumented young people get an education so they could contribute back to the state.

"Are we going to kick these young people over to the curb and say you can't have access because the fact of the matter is that there is no way they can pay the out of state tuition?" he said at a town hall appearance on Saturday. "And are we going to have them on the government dole over here, where they're not educated, or are we going to have them in our institutions of higher learning, paying in-state tuition, pursuing citizenship?"

Most arguments for the federal DREAM Act mirror the remarks Perry has made in defense of his in-state tuition law. Proponents of each argue the young people were brought into the United States by their parents and have been educated in public K-12 schools. The state invested their education up to this point, so the federal DREAM Act, and Perry's law, are about allowing them to work and contribute in turn to the country. President Barack Obama made a similar argument for the federal DREAM Act in a round-table talk with Latino news outlets.

But students who benefit from the in-state tuition, though grateful for the law, say it does not really allow them to work in many professional settings. Since Perry does not support the federal DREAM Act, his arguments for the in-state tuition law don't match reality, they say. The students get an education, but they can't use it.

"It's a love and hate relationship with Rick Perry. ... Rick Perry has made the state a better place but he needs to take a step forward and put the kids to work, because they're ready to work" said Stephanie Canelas, a 20-year-old Texas A&M student. "They're more than willing to serve."

Canelas, a college sophomore, has lived in Texas since moving to the United States from Honduras 11 years ago. Like Cabello, she and her family came in on tourist visas, then overstayed them.

She is one of an estimated one percent of all Texas college students -- many of them undocumented -- to benefit from Perry's in-state tuition law, according to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. The law also benefits American citizens and legal residents who were born out of state. Since 2001, more than 35,000 students benefited from the law, receiving about $33.6 million in in-state tuition benefits and financial aid from fall 2004 to summer 2008.

But Texas financial aid is only partially funded by state taxes. The state has no individual income tax, only a sales tax, meaning the undocumented families pay into the system in the same way as others. Most state universities are supported by the Permanent University fund, which gets most of its money from oil drilled on state-owned land in western Texas. Tuition, in the end, funds only about a quarter of the universities' overall funding, with most coming from other revenue sources.

"Here in Texas we have a sales tax, so my parents and I have been paying into the system forever," Canelas said. "Now we get to benefit from it as well."

On other immigrant-related issues, Perry has proved to be far less moderate than his predecessor as governor, former President George W. Bush. While Bush pushed for comprehensive immigration reform at the national level, Perry helped to pass a bill requiring identification to vote and vetoed a bill to give undocumented immigrants driver's licenses.

Perry originally opposed Arizona's S.B. 1070 law, which requires police to ask for papers from those they arrest and suspect to be undocumented, saying he would not support such a law for Texas. But he supported a similar bill called S.B. 9 in Texas, which would have banned so-called "sanctuary cities" where officers are instructed not to ask about immigration status. The bill would have also required the use of Secure Communities, a controversial immigration enforcement program that turns over all fingerprints taken by local police to federal immigration authorities. It failed in the Texas state legislature.

"He was for in-state tuition, but the context was quite different," Sharry said. "George W. Bush had just gotten elected president, and Bush was famous for being a true moderate on immigration. In-state tuition at that time was viewed as kind of a stepping stone to broader reform, and Perry was seen as part of that Texas tradition."

"He may have been a moderate in 2001, but in 2011 he's not," he added.

Still, Perry is likely to continue to be attacked by Republicans for the in-state tuition law, which Republicans say takes spots away from Americans in favor of undocumented students. Cabello said that assertion is absolutely false.

"I don't think I'm taking anybody's spot because I worked very hard to get here," she said. "I didn't get accepted to A&M because I'm undocumented -- they're status-blind. All they saw was my application and all of the things I had achieved. I feel like I deserve to be here. I earned my spot."

Now, students who benefited from the law just want a chance to use their education going forward. Karla Resendiz, 25, went to the University of Texas at Austin with in-state tuition under the Perry law. She graduated in 2010 with a degree in pharmacy, which she cannot use because she is undocumented. Resendiz was a National Merit Scholar, meaning her preliminary SAT scores were in the top 96th percent of test-takers, and she graduated in the top five percent of her high school class.

"It's a shame that immigrants, and immigration in general, is getting used as a political pawn when there are real people behind these arguments," Resendiz said. "There are students who have a lot of potential, and until people stop using it as talking points and start looking the people behind this law, it's going to be really hard to move forward."


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Mitt Romney does not mention immigration or the border on his campaign website. But he elaborated on his positions in a Sept. 2 speech to the Republican Hispanic National Assembly, saying the country must crack down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants and address immigration "in a way that is civil but resolute."

"Our country must do a better job of securing its borders, and as president I will," Romney said. "That means completing construction of a high-tech fence and investing in adequate manpower and resources."

Romney criticized other governors for signing bills that allow undocumented immigrants to pay in-state college tuition, an idea that he vetoed as governor of Massachusetts. "We must stop providing the incentives that promote illegal immigration," he said.

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WASHINGTON -- Maria Fernanda Cabello, a 20-year-old junior at Texas A&M University, moved to Texas from Mexico when she was 12 years old. She and her family came into the country on tourist visas that...
WASHINGTON -- Maria Fernanda Cabello, a 20-year-old junior at Texas A&M University, moved to Texas from Mexico when she was 12 years old. She and her family came into the country on tourist visas that...
 
 
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12:42 PM on 10/08/2011
Do not be fool by the liberal journalists lies that Perry is tough on illegal aliens. Perry is an open-border enabler of illegal immigration. I'm a Texan myself and my state is over-run with 1.6 million illegals and they are still a drag on society while on welfare as well. This is proof Perry in-state tuition vision has failed.

Another thing, those that get the in-state tuition rate, do not apply for citizenship. Once they graduate, they join extreme, pro-Latino organizations to protest and force us to give them citizenship for free: Amnesty!

And look at what certain students are doing here. This article talked about a student that ranked 5th in her school and took political science in college. This young lady, if granted citizenship, would push for Latino issues, rights, culture, heritge that's totally inconsistent with America values and our heritage, culture and image. She is still a Mexican Loyalist at heart and only pretend to be an American.

We do not want nationalistic immigrants from Mexico. Their presence here is counter-productive to America. We need to mass deport all of them through attrition through enforcement.
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01:14 AM on 10/07/2011
This is stupid. Here we have a well educated, but undocumented, person who can productively contribute to the US - and pay all federal and state taxes - and the US is turning them away! The right complains about illegals wanting hand outs, yet here is one who wants to earn her keep and contribute to society!
09:06 AM on 10/05/2011
Mexicans come here and wave their flags showing their Mexican pride. Mexico in fact is a country to be ashamed of (daily killings, crime). What we should be doing is saying we will give you in state tuition if you will agree to go back and help Mexico after grduation. I am telling you, Mexicans and many other Latin states dont respect us. They dont respect our borders, our laws, or our customs. Why should we bend over backwards to worry about what THEY want. Deport them alll!!!!
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becky bradshaw
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04:26 PM on 10/05/2011
Mexico has a problem with violence because their neighbor to the North has a drug problem.

Latinos have come to the U.S. because they were invited. With not very subtle winks and nods, both Bush and Perry rolled out the red carpet.

Reference: https://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/rick-perry.html
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Viper1st
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06:29 AM on 10/05/2011
"Because Perry does not support the federal DREAM Act -- which would give students like Cabello a path to legal status."

I submit, neither does the U.S. Congress, support The DREAM ON Act ~ evidenced, by in the last 10 years, Congress has failled passage of The DREAM On Act on seven (7) different occasions.

Most recently, when the Democrats had control of ALL THREE Houses ~ The U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. Senate AND the White House, on December 18, 2010, the U.S. Senate voted down The DREAM ON Act with the help of 5 Democrat U.S. Senators

Waiting for The DREAM ON Act to pass ~ is like waiting for the Second Coming of (R) President Ronald Reagan to return to grant a 2nd "unvetted" AMNESTY by Presidential Executive Order, as he did on November 6, 1986, to over 3 million illegals

Just isn't going to happen ~ build a bridge & get over it
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06:18 AM on 10/05/2011
"Perry helped to pass a bill requiring identification to vote and vetoed a bill to give undocumented immigrants driver's licenses."

Three States grant valid driver's licenses to illegals

Utah ~ unknown number of driver's licenses issued to illegals
New Mexico ~ 95,000 driver's licenses issued to illegals since 2003
Washington ~ 350,000 driver's licenses issued to illegals since 2001 MINUS the one issued to Jose Antonio Vargas, was recently cancelled for not having a valid residency in the State of Washington at the time of issuance ~ the little fraud

That's 445,000+ illegals with valid driver's licenses driving on all 50 States' public streets & highways AND registering to vote, with an official U.S. State Governmental Photo I.D. !
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06:05 AM on 10/05/2011
Rick will make a great Governor for the USA's newest 51st State ~ Mexico

Since 11.2 million illegals refuse Naturalized U.S. Citizenshp, but demand all the rights & benefits without the commitment

I assert ~ the USA, take U.S. Citizenship to Mexico & "absorb" Mexico as our 51st State, changing its name to Mexicana

Imagine the benefits to the USA ~

Mexico ~ 11th richest economy of 193 nations in the world
Mexico ~ 7th largest producer of barrel oil in the world
Mexico ~ largest producer of Silver in the world
Mexico ~ June 2011, Unemployment Rate of 5.45%
Mexico ~ southern border with Guatemala only 550 miles long, instead of 1,956 miles
............... existing USA border
Mexico ~ largest drug producer / exporter in the world
Mexico ~ once acquired, legalize Marijuana & tax it for a profit ~ no need for drug cartels
Mexico ~ already sold 1/2 of Mexico the U.S. Gov't in two separate land sales
. . . . . . 1848 ~ Guadalupe-Hidalgo Treaty ~ $15 million USD
. . . . . . 1853 ~ Gadsden Purchase ~ $10 million USD
Mexico ~ 95% of Mexican Nationals want FREE USA social benefits
Mexico ~ 110 million Mexicans are accustomed to $4.64 USD daily minimum wage
Mexico ~ 30% of all Mexican-born Nationals already live in the USA

No more hatred, racism, bigotry, xenophobia ~ we'll all be happy USA-Americans
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Viper1st
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05:29 AM on 10/05/2011
"Maria Fernanda Cabello, a 20-year-old junior at Texas A&M University, moved to Texas from Mexico when she was 12 years old."

Maria should pursue her Naturalized U.S. Citizenship first & obtain her SSN ~ A practicing attorney requires a law license, requiring a background check & fingerprinting ~ a good idea to be a U.S. Citizen or LPR first
07:58 PM on 10/04/2011
I think he is trying to get the Latino vote ,but at the same time has to keep the republicans happy,hypocritical
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09:31 PM on 10/04/2011
Same can be said of BHO ~ pandering to the Hispanic/Latino community, all the while ~ splitting mixed Hispanic/Latino families by deporting 1 illegal every 79 seconds of every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month of his 32-month presidency
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05:44 PM on 10/04/2011
The only reason Perry allows anything is if there is a personal benefit to him... Cronyism at its best with Perry!!! More tuition-illegal or not-means more money for him somewhere down the line, is my personal belief. Perry has done nothing but line his pockets and those of his lobbyists.
11:16 AM on 10/04/2011
Rick Perry is an opportunist, nothing more and nothing better. He knew he probably wouldn't be elected again so he tried to woo the Latino vote with the tuition law, and he only squeezed out 39% of the vote. Behind the scenes he still uses racist slang, talks about shooting coyotes and advocates for sanctuary cities, that's why rednecks love him.
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shirley thomas
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10:51 AM on 10/04/2011
go to mexico, china, russia, ngland and any other country, illegally and see if they are as gracious as we have been. while i feel for the students brought here by their parents, they are using resources that rightfully belong to american citizens. go to the website of any country and look at the criteria for gaining citizneship and nowhere does being illegal send u to the top of the list. illegals have really hampered black employment.but the real culprits are the emplyers who hire them, show a bunch of them being perp walked and i'll bet they won't be so swift to hire illegals
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zagatosz
09:18 AM on 10/04/2011
Hey; did we not steal Texas and most of the Southwest from Mexico?
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12:01 PM on 10/04/2011
No. We fought for it and the puny Mexicans lost it! Now they feel entitled to our accomplishments!
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hfreedom
05:54 PM on 10/04/2011
I am so happy Obama won. Now, we know it wasn't our imagination about how much prejudice and ignorance is still in this country. The inbred culture of the KKK lives on. They are still so threatened by anyone that is more intelligent and able to look beyond the color of skin. Sad, too, very sad.
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hfreedom
05:45 PM on 10/04/2011
That is very correct!! We didn't cross the border. the border crossed us!!
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01:10 AM on 10/04/2011
I suppose there is a good chance Obama will win again. Still, if he really wanted to bring the country together he would create a new cabinet post for a new agency; the Department of Spirituality. All public policy should be evaluated on its pro-American spirituality. If Obama appointed Perry to this post it would be a master stroke.
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ElBruce
01:48 AM on 10/04/2011
That would require an Act of Congress. They won't do anything he suggests.
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shirley thomas
we have no friends in dc
10:54 AM on 10/04/2011
what the heck is pro american spirituality. anything that smack of any kind of religious involvement gets my dander up. obama should have dissolved the faith based initiatives
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dayvidBrooks
12:10 AM on 10/04/2011
Rick Perry's immigration policy is "you don't have to go home, but you got to get the hell out of here"
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Drama Llama
12:00 AM on 10/04/2011
"She and her family came into the country on tourist visas that later expired"

Hey Huffpo.. what a nice way of saying this family illegally overstayed their tourist visas which were unlawfully gained for the purpose of evading US immigration laws.

But saying it like these poor tourists had their visas "expire" like someones drivers license might expire is just a bit much.
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ElBruce
01:49 AM on 10/04/2011
Actually, just staying in the country is not a crime. Immigration infractions are not the same thing as crimes. They're not "illegal." There is no such thing as an illegal person. In fact, the very concept is anathema to everything that makes us human.
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09:58 AM on 10/04/2011
Defend them all you want. They violate immigration laws .What they do can lead to a ban from entering the USA and can also leave them non eligible to be US citizens ever.

They purposely violate the laws of this country when they overstay whether they are technically "illegal" or not.. The US department of Homeland Security refers to them as illegals. I will do the same.
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Viper1st
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09:34 PM on 10/04/2011
> illegals do enter the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do work, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do drive, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do vote, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do use identity theft IDs, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do obtain social services, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do represent themselves, as U.S. Citizens ~ illegally
> illegals do receive FREE K-12 education, in the USA ~ illegally
> illegals do receive FREE emergency health care, in the USA ~ illegally
> Illegals do SCAB U.S. jobs for half-price wages, in the USA ~ illegally
> Illegals do depress wages for ALL U.S. Workers, in the USA ~ illegally
> Illegals do earn ill-gotten monies by illegal means, in the USA ~ illegally
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wanamoka
01:22 PM on 10/13/2011
Yea, it should be more like the expiration date on the milk, you may be able to drink it for a little while but eventually it has to go.

No matter how sorry you feel for their plight, how much you respect that they work hard, like these people because they've become your friends or your housekeeper. You've got to realize that the Dream Act is a slap in the face to people who have legally become citizens.

If they want to stay, let them go through the process of legalization.

I'm a teacher in TX and I'd say at the school I taught at 95% of my students were from somewhere other than the US. Not just Latin American countries, but Asians, African, Eastern European, Middle Eastern, who have not been here long. People are coming in droves from all over the world looking for the life they see on television.
Am I heartless? No. But I also expect people to do the right thing.