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Ron Paul 2012 Campaign Could Spoil Romney, Perry Hopes

By CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN and STEVE PEOPLES   10/03/11 03:50 AM ET  AP

GOP presidential candidate, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), speaks at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), at the Orange County Convention Center, on September 23, 2011 in Orlando, Florida. Tomorrow the GOP presidential candidates will all participate the Florida straw poll. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

McALLEN, Texas -- Ron Paul, antagonist of the Federal Reserve and advocate for the gold standard, probably won't capture the Republican presidential nomination. But with his libertarian leanings energizing a small though growing group of passionate conservatives, the quirky Texas congressman is proving to be a force in the 2012 contest.

Four months before the initial voting, Paul is having such a big impact on the race that some Republican operatives are convinced that he will play spoiler in important states, siphoning votes and attention from his rivals for months to come and helping determine the nominee.

He's empowered by unconventional but successful fundraising techniques, a more sophisticated campaign than his two previous attempts at the presidency, and a fiery message he's preached for decades but only now is resonating with Americans concerned about the nation's debt.

In short, he could prove dangerous for the early front-runners, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

"I have no idea what exactly spoiler means," Paul said recently while in New Hampshire. "If you're a participant and you have an influence and you win or come close and you influence the debate, I think that's pretty important. So I don't put a negative term on that as spoiling anything. Spoiling their fun? Maybe they need a little spoiling."

It's unclear which rival the 76-year-old Texan stands to hurt the most.

Paul's most devoted followers have been committed to him for years. But the "converts," as the congressman calls them, seem to be growing with little regard for whether their support of Paul unintentionally helps another candidate.

Kate Baker is among the many die-hard Paul supporters in New Hampshire who shrug off the suggestion that their candidate may play spoiler. She holds out hope of victory.

"Ron Paul is doing well enough he has the possibility to win, particularly in key states. This time I can taste success," said Baker, the volunteer head of New Hampshire's Women for Ron Paul Coalition. She also worked to help Paul get elected four years ago.

But for Baker and others, winning almost sounds less important than spreading Paul's message of fiscal discipline and smaller government. That's a pitch he's made for years and one that others suddenly have adopted, sometimes with more success.

"Look at how much the message is traveling right now. He's honest and consistent. That's the kind of person I can put my money and effort behind," said Baker, a 37-year-old Manchester resident. "I vote for Ron Paul on principle."

Others like her have helped Paul build a grass-roots fundraising network so robust that his team is preparing for a primary campaign that goes the distance, confident Paul will raise enough money to stay in the race as long as he wants.

His fundraising prowess dropped jaws four years ago when, during one cash-grab blitz, he raised more than $5 million in 24 hours. Drawing on thousands of small online donations, Paul has raised at least $1 million in five individual "money bombs" this year, according to his campaign.

Overall, he raised $4.5 million this year through June 30 and is expected to report $5 million more through the end of September. That's well behind Romney and probably Perry, too. But it's far more than most of the second-tier candidates.

It's not just money that's helped him become a more credible candidate this time around. It's also the improved quality of his campaign.

Paul moved more quickly this year to put organizers and experienced workers in important states. He was the first candidate to run television ads in New Hampshire. At the straw poll in Ames, Iowa, a test of campaign organization, Paul finished second to Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann by only 152 votes.

"The fact that we have so many county chairmen and precinct chairmen and all this all through Iowa, we never had that before," Paul said recently from his office in Washington.

There are signs that Paul is adopting more traditional, and possibly successful, campaign strategies, according to Eric Woolson, who managed former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's victory in the 2008 Iowa caucuses. The strong straw poll finish was "maybe a little more of an acknowledgement that this is the way the game is played," he said.

In New Hampshire, the difference goes beyond organization.

Paul still talks freely about some subjects that place him on the fringe, such as ending the fight against drugs. But his early ads in the state seemed to "recast" his image, said Richard Killion, an unaffiliated Republican strategist who had advised former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, a 2012 race dropout, in New Hampshire.

The ads give the impression that Paul is the most electable and best positioned to beat President Barack Obama, going against the conventional wisdom that Paul "speaks out well on big problems in Washington, but may not be the best messenger to tackle them," Killion said.

Paul is working to remedy that perception.

"I keep thinking maybe how I can improve on saying things so the people can understand what I'm talking about and make sure that they don't misinterpret me," he said.

All this suggests Paul is poised to improve upon his 2008 performance, when he grabbed more than 7 percent in the New Hampshire Republican primary and reached as high as 14 percent in Nevada.

"There's no doubt in my mind that Ron Paul will get somewhere north of 10 percent, possibly even in the high teens, which will have a major effect and impact on the race and who wins – whether its Perry or Romney – in New Hampshire," said Michael Dennehy, a New Hampshire-based operative who led Sen. John McCain's campaign four years ago.

"I would go so far as to say he will play spoiler," Dennehy said. "I do not see his support waning below 10 percent."

Paul also seems more willing to mix it up with the other candidates that he was in 2008.

He acknowledges trying to score political points that raise his profile in addition to his standard no-frills discussion of the issues.

A Paul television ad calling Perry "Al Gore's Texas cheerleader" garnered loads of attention and drew attacks from Perry. That was an unusual reaction from a front-runner who would typically ignore attacks from lesser candidates.

Paul said he wrestles with how to apply the new style.

But as much as other candidates pull Paul's ideas into the conservative mainstream, it's easy to forget he was the Libertarian Party's candidate for president in 1988.

Paul calls for immediate withdrawal of troops around the world, brushes aside concerns about Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb and has suggested Israel be left to defend itself. He would return to the days when the currency was backed by gold. He would eliminate a host of federal agencies and says, "There is no greater threat to the security and prosperity of the United States today than the out-of-control, secretive Federal Reserve."

Mostly, Paul is pleased that some ideas he's hammered for years are echoing all around him.

"Nobody ever did this and now it's not just me doing this," he said. "I think that's all good."

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Peoples reported from Manchester, N.H.

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08:41 PM on 10/21/2011
I support him and I didn't even know of him until the summer of 2010. I support him so much that I will not vote for ANYONE else and neither should you. Honesty and consistency go along way and his ideas are awesome.
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trevorhanson86
pigs will eat bacon
10:05 PM on 11/03/2011
yes!
01:37 PM on 10/17/2011
Anyone who would vote for Ron Paul would never vote for Romney or Perry so yea....
01:17 PM on 10/17/2011
He's certainly come a long way since 2008

http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/ron-paul/ron-paul-2012-ron-paul-economy
12:30 PM on 10/15/2011
Don't get your news from the MSM-including FAUX. They just published a poll, completely leaving out Ron Paul. Everywhere I go in New Hampshire-the people love Ron Paul! December surprise.
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11:01 PM on 10/11/2011
If any GOPer should win, its Ron Paul. He's overall fairly decent (wouldnt say the same for Rand Paul) ... but I don't see eye to eye his vision of purist capitalism. Either way, he gets things
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trevorhanson86
pigs will eat bacon
03:10 AM on 10/15/2011
http://maxkeiser.com/ Here's the purist capitalist.
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Tammy Tyler Palmisano
05:30 AM on 10/09/2011
America needs someone like Ron Paul! Constitution, Power To The People! These people bashing Ron Paul have obviously never read the Constitution (just like our current government). As Thomas Jefferson said, "A Government big enough to give you everything is a Government big enough to take it all away" Someone said something about not having FEMA, FEMA is a joke! I know first hand about FEMA I survived Katrina and FEMA was to busy paying FRAUD claims to help. Having the Government take care of everything is like living in your parents house! I like being in control of my destiny. I will vote for Ron Paul!
01:22 PM on 10/17/2011
Sorry to hear about your experience with Katrina and disappointment with FEMA. Out of curiosity, how efficient was the free market at helping Katrina victims? Did the private sector do a better job?

http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/ron-paul/ron-paul-2012-ron-paul-economy
11:11 AM on 11/07/2011
You bet it did. My community banded together and sent food and supplies to Katrina victims. And when it got there, Mississippi volunteers kept it AWAY from the FEMA thugs and made sure it got to folks who needed it.
02:54 AM on 10/08/2011
huffpost needs a new server big time
12:14 PM on 10/07/2011
Ron Paul is not a SPOILER!! if anything, it's the other way around--the great thesbians that they are (Perry, Romney etc) put on their $5k suits and make-up, speak well and tell you what you want to hear...Ron Paul tells you the TRUTH. he's not a spoiler, he's a SOLUTION!!
12:36 PM on 10/15/2011
And they ALL leave out another thing; WHO is the one with all those VOLUNTEERS? What DO you suppose those volunteers are doing? Where do they rate the importance of "Boots on the ground"? Nah, that's nothing important. Let the MSM remain asleep.
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Amin Khad
07:04 AM on 10/07/2011
Ron Paul knows what ails America. He cares about the people, and doesn't pander to them with socialism or scapegoating of the "other" (e.g. Muslims).
01:03 PM on 10/06/2011
Ron Paul's ideals ARE the ideals of the Republican Party...originally...before it was ruined by the big corporate (banking) interests lobbying for wars to expand their balance sheets. Real Republicans should be celebrating Ron Paul's success, along with the rest of America who is tired of the same song and dance. In Ron Paul I see a glimmer of hope for the American people and a return to Kennedy era unity, but only if we can see through the media complex charade.
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brkitdwn
06:56 AM on 11/26/2011
well said!!! keep speaking your mind.. on many websites!
12:45 PM on 10/06/2011
All people planning on voting for Obama in 2012, read this post and realize why you shouldn't. He lied to us to get elected, just like every other politician­. But the worst thing is, he gave us hope, promised us change, and let us down TREMENDOUSLY. Here is a short list of how he let us down. Please reply and correct me if there are any errors, or if you have a reason why you chose to ignore these facts and remain ardent to the idea of voting for Obama.

We are still fighting a never-endi­ng "war" (quotes because war has not been declared) on terrorism, and in fact, are SPREADING the "war" to five other regions. Terrible PR for America.

We are still waiting for equal rights for the GLBT community. Yay, DADT repealed! Just crumbs for the oppressed.

Legalizing marijuana? Nope, recently in MN, Obama laughed at the idea.

GITMO? still open.

Patriot Act? Strengthen­ed.

Close the revolving door in Washington­? One, his campaign donors would abandon him. Two, his cabinet is essentiall­y the same with the same big business involved as GWB.

New jobs deals? ALL in favor of big business. Boeing, GM, GE, etc.

None of these can be blamed on a Republican congress or filibuster­s. This is all principle.

Face it. Huge issues, no actions, or making it worse. Obama is just like any other politician­. A phony looking for votes. He (just like Republican­s, sans RP) is a corporate sell-out.”
10:56 AM on 10/09/2011
i voted and canvassed for and contributed to obama.

to your list i would add he assassinates american citizens on his own say so, unappealable to any court or legislature and he continues the depression making policies of bush with regard to the too big to fail banks, giving them trillions in taxpayer money, much through the fed, which doesn't ever cure the problem of too much toxic debt, no transparency and unknown counterparty risk. ask the japanese: they tried the same thing for 22 years (since 1989) and it doesn't work. what does work is what worked in the savings and loan crisis under george h w bush, what worked for the nordic countries in the '90's and what the fdic has done routinely for the decades of its existence with the small enough to fail. as bernie sanders (among others) says, if they are too big to fail, they are too big to exist.
04:28 PM on 10/11/2011
I voted for Obama, and two days ago my wife and I registered as Republican voters so we can vote for Ron Paul in the Primaries!! Ron Paul 2012
01:27 PM on 10/17/2011
"We are still fighting a never-endi­­ng "war""

Actually, he said he would begin a phrased withdrawal within Iraq (done) and recommit to Afghanistan (done). Did you forget why were there in the first place (9/11)? Have you forgotten that Bin Laden was killed? If you are completely anti-war-no-matter what then I can understand your criticisms. But it's incorrect to lambaste Obama for actually sticking to his campaign promise on this issue.
http://www.obamaftw.com/

This site below keeps an objective record on his promises.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
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Giovanni Campanella
07:35 AM on 11/30/2011
Bin Laden is killed, it's time to come home. With thousands of Americans dead, trillions in debt, do you think it was worth it? Would you say that to all the relatives and friends of the dead and innocent? Go ahead and tell a traumatized mother who watched her children get blown up at 3am. Go ahead.

He said we'd be out of Iraq - period. We are still there - whether it's contractors, military - whatever. We are still in Iraq and people are still dying. Obama is the worst President and anyone who still supports him is ignorant and biased.
10:00 AM on 10/06/2011
As an independent I will not vote for Obama ( Did not vote for him on the first) or for any Republican nominee. But, I will vote for R. Paul and even work for his campaign if He's nominated by the Republican Party. He thinks the same way I do and I believe He would hang on and fight for his beliefs, not like the actual president does. If You want REALL CHANGE Ron Paul is the man.
07:56 PM on 10/10/2011
You NEED to register as a Republican NOW to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. You can switch back right after.
08:45 AM on 10/06/2011
I'm a middle-left democrat who voted for Obama and Ron Paul is the only republican candidate that I would vote for against Obama in 2012. The GOP would be smart to nominate him because he'll pull a lot of folks in the middle who would NEVER vote for the likes of Perry, Bachman, or Romney.
04:20 PM on 10/10/2011
If you're a registered Democrat you will need to switch affiliations soon. DEADLINE changing voter registration for the first primary in the nation-NH-is October 14.
12:19 AM on 10/06/2011
At least thanks to Ron Paul the Government Accounting Office looked into the Federal Reserve and found out 16 trillion dollars missing in illegal bailouts!
01:08 AM on 10/08/2011
That didn't get much media attention, either. It was ONLY $16 trillion.
11:39 PM on 10/05/2011
This is HAPPENING! Did you see the fundraising article today? It's not the $8 Million the Paul campaign raised this quarter, it's the 100,000 DONORS! And that's not all the grass roots support the good doctor has. Volunteers who donate their time. People, groups and websites "off the radar". The bank-owned media are quaking in their shorts. HOW will they keep Ron Paul from winning? HOW? There has NEVER been a grass roots groundswell like this, not even Ronald Reagan.
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GuyCybershy
01:02 AM on 10/06/2011
True, nothing scares the elites more than a genuine grassroots movement. HuffPost has really turned negative on Ron Paul lately and we can expect more of the same.
04:22 PM on 10/10/2011
I watched the HP editor on the tube today. Newsweek guy Howard Fineman. That explains it. Why HP is just another MSM.