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Undocumented Students Face Obstacles Even After College

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First Posted: 10/03/11 08:48 AM ET Updated: 12/03/11 05:12 AM ET

By Erika Niedowski, Associated Press

PROVIDENCE, R.I. — When Rhode Island became the 13th state to allow in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants at public colleges, supporters heralded the move as one that would give students the kind of advanced education they need to succeed in the workforce.

But students who are not here legally may still face a major obstacle even with the benefit of a college degree: Many have no immediate pathway to legal status and, under current federal immigration law, employers cannot legally hire them.

"I know of students who have graduated magna cum laude and top honors in their colleges, but right now they're working minimum wage in restaurants," said Antonio Albizures-Lopez, 20, who came to the U.S. from Guatemala when he was 1.

Albizures-Lopez, who is pursuing legal residency, says the best solution is passage of federal legislation, known as the DREAM Act, which provides a pathway to legal residency for college students.

The Rhode Island Board of Governors for Higher Education, which oversees the state's three public higher education institutions, unanimously approved in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants last week, effective in the fall of 2012. The General Assembly had failed repeatedly to take action on legislation that's been introduced year after year.

Eleven states – California, Connecticut, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, Texas, Utah and Washington – have laws allowing the children of undocumented immigrants to receive in-state rates if they meet certain requirements, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Oklahoma allows in-state tuition for the children of undocumented immigrants under a state Board of Regents policy.

Gov. Lincoln Chafee, in urging the Board of Governors to adopt the change, said it would allow more Rhode Islanders to attend college, help build a stronger workforce and boost an economy that is among the nation's most troubled.

Research varies on how much resident tuition rates for undocumented immigrants increase enrollment. A 2010 paper co-written by Aimee Chinn, an economist at the University of Houston, did not find a sizable increase overall for 18- to -24-year-olds in the 10 states studied, though it did find that Mexican men in their 20s attended at modestly higher rates. It also found that even in-state tuition may still be too expensive, especially since undocumented immigrant students do not qualify for federal education aid.

By contrast, a study this year by the Latino Policy Institute at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, which looked at an array of research on the issue, said that in-state tuition has led to an enrollment increase among undocumented immigrants, on average, of 31 percent in the places it has been implemented.

The Urban Institute has estimated that 65,000 undocumented immigrants graduate from high school in the U.S. every year.

But even if more students go on to attend public colleges and universities with the benefit of in-state rates, a big question remains: How will they fare in the workforce after they graduate, even with a degree that traditionally makes it easier to get the kind of high-skill, high-paying job not available to those who finish only high school?

"Even with a college degree, there hasn't been a more general immigration reform that would enable these kids to get a job once they have their degree," said Chinn.

Amanda Pereira, 18, came to the U.S. illegally at the age of 6 from Brazil with her family.

"In a way, it is going to be another dead end," she said. "But in a way it is a help because at least they got through another four years and got their education, so they can find ways to possibly get legalized through an employer."

The Brandeis University freshman was granted legal status – after more than a decade pursuing it – last spring, but is continuing to advocate for undocumented immigrant students.

"We do need to continue pushing for the DREAM Act," she said.

That federal legislation – the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act – would provide a pathway to legal residency for undocumented-immigrant students providing they meet certain requirements. A December study by UCLA estimated that such students could contribute anywhere from $1.4 trillion to $3.6 trillion to the nation's economy over the course of their careers, depending on how many ultimately obtain citizenship.

But the bill has failed to win the necessary votes on Capitol Hill despite repeated tries, and its prospects for passage are uncertain.

Albizures-Lopez, a resident of Lincoln who graduated from Blackstone Academy Charter School in 2009, called in-state tuition a "stepping stone" to college but added, "It's not complete. It's not even halfway complete."

He says he has "protected status" while his legal case for residency is pending, so he is able to work a part-time job coaching soccer at a private high school. He plans to apply to college, including the University of Rhode Island and Rhode Island College, where he could get in-state rates. URI's in-state tuition is $9,824, compared to $25,912 for out-of-state.

Terry Gorman, executive director of Rhode Islanders for Immigration Law Enforcement, opposes in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants. He cites a 1996 federal law that laid out certain restrictions on undocumented immigrant benefits, and says it's a violation of that statute to provide in-state tuition to students who came here illegally, on the basis of residence, if the same break is not available to all students – including those from out of state.

Students paying out-of-state rates at California institutions mounted a legal challenge on those grounds, but the state Supreme Court upheld the in-state tuition policy, saying it did not conflict with federal law. The U.S. Supreme Court in June declined to hear the case.

But Gorman also maintains that the policy change offers students in the U.S. illegally a "false hope" about their post-graduation prospects.

"This is going to be an educated population that can't do anything with their education because they're illegal aliens," he said. "What do they do? They can't work."

Kimberly Mehlman-Orozco, who conducted the Latino Policy Institute study at Roger Williams, points out that, while that's the law, it isn't necessarily the reality. She said that under current enforcement practices, many who are here illegally are in fact being hired. That being the case, she said, they may as well be college-educated.

Under the new policy in Rhode Island, in-state rates will be available only to undocumented immigrants' children who have attended a high school in the state for at least three years and graduated or received a GED. Students also must commit to seek legal status as soon as they are eligible, or lose their resident tuition.

Supporters of the policy change say it would affect approximately 140 students in Rhode Island.

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By Erika Niedowski, Associated Press PROVIDENCE, R.I. — When Rhode Island became the 13th state to allow in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants at public colleges, supporters heralded the m...
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Viper1st
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09:24 AM on 10/04/2011
"Teresa Serrano, 22-year-old Latina spends most of her days at home in Texas, unemployed, unable to drive, and underachieving because of the place she was born."

"Yale University was among the list of colleges to which Serrano applied, identifying herself as an international student. She was admitted and offered full financial assistance even though she could not supply all the required documents to qualify her as a true international student. She is one of a small group of undocumented students admitted to Yale."

13 years of FREE K-12 education AND "full-ride" to Yale ~ can't obtain employment as an illegal in the USA

$200,000 of education dollars of U.S. Taxpayer money, wasted on 1 illegal

Cause "putting the Cart before the Horse"

Get a valid SSN via Naturalized U.S. Citizenship FIRST ~ Before seeking a USA College Degree

"Life After Yale: Undocumented"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/liane-membis/life-after-yale-undocumen_b_938479.html

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Viper1st
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08:57 AM on 10/04/2011
The last time "unvetted" Amnesty was granted

The U.S. Unemployment Rate was 4.5% ~ When the U.S. Unemployment Rate, once again reaches 4.5%, then I'll reconsider my stance against "Unvetted" Amnesty

Appears my position will not change until sometime in the mid-2017, per the CBO

Until then ~ I'm only marginally fine with the USCIS granting legal entry into the USA by 1 million "vetted" foreign nationals (LEGAL Immigrants) annually, for each & every year since 2001 ~ Evidence that the U.S. Immigration policies are NOT Broken, just unenforced.

Marginally fine? Since ~ 14 million U.S. Citizens are out of work in the USA, there is no need to even be allowing LEGAL Immigrants into the USA
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Angrykitteh
You're on double secret probation....
08:46 AM on 10/04/2011
"I know of students who have graduated magna cum laude and top honors in their colleges, but right now they're working minimum wage in restaurants," said Antonio Albizures-Lopez,

Oh boo hoo. At least they can get a job. That's BETTER than many American kids can get after graduation.

What do you think the students at OWS are protesting for? JOBS!!!!
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chevyliddle
what's a micro-bayou?
08:07 AM on 10/04/2011
Anyone that still believes "undocumented immigrants" are only taking the jobs that Americans won't do.....should read this article.
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RatPack78
I enjoy playing devil's advocate.
11:08 PM on 10/03/2011
We're told "illegal aliens only do the jobs that Americans won't do." Yet here we have a direct attempt to help illegal aliens compete for the jobs Americans do want! We have a 9% unemployment rate and we're looking to glut the job market even further with people who shouldn't be here. But you say "It's not their fault, they didn't choose to come here." Tell that to the American citizens who have to compete for jobs against them and see how much sympathy you get. Yet our insane politicians put the needs of illegal aliens over those of our citizens.
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ugly american
"I drank what?"- Last words of Socrates
10:37 PM on 10/03/2011
These kids have got their degrees, but they can't work because they are in the US illegally.
But that just means they can't work in THIS country legally.
It would seem that even though they are not US citizens, they ARE citizens of some nation or another, correct? Is there no demand at all for people with their educations in their home countries?
Are these degrees they have just specific to the US and nowhere else? However much they may dislike the idea, the best course for them may be to go back to the nations they or their parents came from.
They will certainly have a legal right as citizens to work there. And they'll probably have better luck getting employment there because their nations have laws that require companies operating there to hire their locals first.
In America we are not fortunate enough to have such laws.
If they play their opportunities right, foreign citizen graduates could be better off than Americans. Mexico's economy and much of South America is growing while America is in a Depression.
So why can't undocumented students work? It's just insisting on working here that seems to be the problem.
But they would just join the club; neither can Americans.
07:34 PM on 10/04/2011
@ugly, you have a very good point. I have spent more than 2 years of my life living in other countries and I can tell you, a college educated person who speaks English is worth their weight in gold.

Here is what gets me about this article. I see people who's parents thwarted our laws and snuck into our country and now they are unhappy because, even with in state tuition, for them it is still not enough. I wonder if Canada has this problem. I'm 100% with Romney on this one. If I can't go to Texas and get in state tuition, then why should a non-citizen be able to do so.
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
08:45 PM on 10/03/2011
Immigration stories bring out the worse in us.
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IllTakeTheRedEye
Do you know what a nonemployer business is?
05:58 AM on 10/04/2011
I wonder hypothetically speaking, if Latin America, Spain, and Portugal, were as economically strong as Switzerland, and Hispanics in the USA were among the upper middle class and higher, if you would say the same?

Especially if, if the USA was being invaded by millions of people abroad, from parts of the world that have not developed as fast as they would prefer, and they feel they have the right to invade the USA at-will because they do not like how slowly their countries are developing. Meaning, you believe that the world inhabitants ascribe to
I want it all...and I want it now
I wonder if you do not see anything wrong with that?
08:34 PM on 10/03/2011
DREAM Act = Amnesty
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ugly american
"I drank what?"- Last words of Socrates
03:31 PM on 10/03/2011
People work hard, get good grades, go to college.
They work and study hard and rack up thousands of dollars in debt.
They get good grades and high honors. They should do well in life.
Some get advanced degrees, adding to formidable credentials.
They dream of the contributions they can make to the world.
Then they graduate and find that these degrees are wall decorations.
Nobody will give them a job.
Even though they won't say it, it is easy to tell from the look of the workforce. These young graduates are not from the same place.
Some even will say outright that they will not hire them because of their citizenship.
So they are relegated to fast-food and service industry. Few can find work as construction laborers but there's competition.
Because of nationality the companies don't want them.
The corporations would rather take advantage of the visa programs and bring in people from other nations than hire people here who would work for the same.
It is quiet discrimination against Americans.
If only they had been born in the East! They could have been educated there and corporations and even the Federal Government would be fighting each other to recruit them.
We're still passing out visas to work here like crazy all over the middle east and Asia.
Americans already face competition from foreigners for graduate level jobs.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
04:03 PM on 10/03/2011
All anyone needs to do is google h1-b visa abuse and they can read from thousands of credible sources about how the chamber of commerce backs wage supression.
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IllTakeTheRedEye
Do you know what a nonemployer business is?
05:48 AM on 10/04/2011
Good post. I really appreciated the last 5 sentences.
02:16 PM on 10/03/2011
"I know of students who have graduated magna cum laude and top honors in their colleges, but right now they're working minimum wage in restaurants," said Antonio Albizures-Lopez

There are plenty of legal grads who are doing the same thing.
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Ohioliberal
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06:19 PM on 10/03/2011
So if the children of bank robbers got their college expenses paid for by the exploits of their bank robbing parents, should they get special consideration?
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IllTakeTheRedEye
Do you know what a nonemployer business is?
05:41 AM on 10/04/2011
Did you just stereotype all USA-born Americans that have graduated with a Bachelor's degree, Master's degree, or PhD, with or without top honors, that cannot find any job other than a minimum wage restaurant job as being "the children of bank robbers?"

I don't follow you?
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IllTakeTheRedEye
Do you know what a nonemployer business is?
05:43 AM on 10/04/2011
Thank you for reminding people that "legal grads" in GREAT numbers "are doing the same thing."

Fanned and Fav'd
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didbblejr
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02:08 PM on 10/03/2011
This is one of the largest "Fleecing of America" scams I have heard of.

CHildren of "illegal" aliens being able to attend "public schools" and are also given "Federal and State Grants, loans ect."

How is this happening? They are "children of illegals" which makes them "illegal" as well. A double negative does not make a possitive.

We U.S. Citizens need to stand up and challenge this. Heck our children are having difficulties getting Fed and State Grants and Loans and we pay taxes. These illegal squatters pay zilch, 0, nada.

Write your Congressman/ Congresswoman and show them that you are tired of this fleecing. Lets get this placed on the next voting ballet.

Do as we in Alabama are doing and demand laws to find, capture and get these illegal aliens sent packing.
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
08:22 PM on 10/03/2011
Your facts are incorrect. You know how you conservatives always talk about the "rule of law?" The law is that anyone born here is a citizen. The fact that their parents are not citizens does not affect their citizenship. And just like any other American citizen, they are entitled to an education. If you don't like it, ask your representatives to amend the constitution.
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didbblejr
~Opinions, distinguish our Great Nation
08:58 PM on 10/03/2011
I dont see any facts stated in my comment.

What I see is a rant and this is a Fleecing.

I did tell everyone to contact their representative...... Maybe I am missing something here.

Just because it is "law" according to some doesnt mean we cant be angry about it.

IT IS TIME FOR 2 CHANGES NEXT YEAR
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chevyliddle
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06:11 AM on 10/04/2011
The article is about "undocumented" young adults graduating from college. These are not "legally born" children. They are illegally born children of illegally born parents so his statement was correct and in line with the article.
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rMatey
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02:43 PM on 10/04/2011
Make them work off the cost of their education first.
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didbblejr
~Opinions, distinguish our Great Nation
04:10 PM on 10/04/2011
Nope, they are illegal. I say we use the information they provide to the schools and go arrest them and their parents or whoever houses/ supports them.

Then we document them so that they can be identified and if they ever attempt to become legal citizens their request "DENIED". Then we ship them back to wherever they came from.
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lenguss
01:57 PM on 10/03/2011
Of course they face problems. They are not undocumented; they are ILLEGAL. Want to become a US citizen? Join the military and give something back to the country that educated them - for free.
02:11 PM on 10/03/2011
If it was that easy there probably wouldn’t be a whole lot of illegals in this country – only the pacifists, I guess..?
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deatrix
to think-is not illegal YET
02:11 PM on 10/03/2011
to join the army you need to be a US citizen. get your facts straight. any federal job requires citizenship
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03:54 PM on 10/03/2011
not true
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didbblejr
~Opinions, distinguish our Great Nation
05:01 PM on 10/03/2011
I was an Army Recruiter, seems like you need to get your facts straight. You only need to be a "legal immigrint".

There were recruiting programs offered in 2009 that expedited the road to US citizenship for people who joined but not yet citizens. They also used to offer English as a Second Launguish Programs.

There is also a requirement of being a US Citizen for a number of years to become a member of Congess cant remember the time 2 or 5 years.
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TomTheSeal
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01:45 PM on 10/03/2011
Thank your parents for your problems.
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Ohioliberal
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01:39 PM on 10/03/2011
Now if these Texas colleges form affliations with the University of Mexico City and part of the package is to transfer both the credits and the actual student there, then I am amendable to listening to the rest of the plan.
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dogspeed
Your mico-bio is empty.
01:20 PM on 10/03/2011
Obstacles? Then get some documentation.