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Immigration Is Not The Most Important Issue For Hispanic Voters; Chiqui Cartagena And Leading Marketers Debate The Issues Which Will Drive Hispanic Voters

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First Posted: 10/04/11 01:30 PM ET Updated: 12/04/11 05:12 AM ET

“I don’t care about immigration – I just don’t,” said Chiqui Cartagena, VP of Corporate Marketing for Univision. The audience giggled. Three other expert panelists on stage with Cartagena, as part of an event at Advertising Week called “Will Latinos Elect Our Next President?”, echoed her insistence that statistically-speaking, immigration is not as important to Latino voters as many think.

According to Univision polls, Cartagena said, immigration ranked number ten in most important issues for Latino voters. Issues like the economy, education, and jobs all ranked higher.

The other panelists at the event -- Politico reporter, Ben Smith; CEO of The Mellman Group, Mark Mellman; and advertising consultant to Newt Gingrich’s campaign, Lionel Sosa -- all asserted that there’s a good chance Latinos could be a swing vote in the 2012 election, and that politicians would do well to understand their real interests.

Mellman said that Latinos represent about 10% of the voting public, but in certain states Latino voters can make up as much as 35%. “The fact is that Latinos are a swing vote, something that is often overlooked by both Democrats and Republicans. As she [Cartagena] said this is not a single-issue community – and to the extent that it is, that issue is certainly not immigration,” Mellman said.

Ben Smith, a reporter for Politico, said that despite polling in 2008 which indicated that immigration was not the “single issue for Latinos”, Obama used the topic to “disqualify McCain in the eyes of Latino voters.” Obama’s strategy was to paint McCain as the candidate who is “aligned with people that hate you” by running ads that associated Rush Limbaugh with John McCain, said Smith. This depiction, he said, is one which Republicans like Romney would especially have to avoid if they run in the general election.

Although Obama won 67% of the Latino vote in 2008, George W. Bush won nearly half of the Latino vote in 2004. Lionel Sosa, advertising consultant to Newt Gingrich, said Bush’s campaign is evidence that the “the Latino is a swing vote.” Sosa says he learned this lesson from Ronald Reagan, when working on his 1980 campaign.

“He [Reagan] gave me the insight to what has been the strategy all along. He said, ‘Getting the Latino vote is not as difficult as we Republicans think – because Latinos have conservative values, Republicans have conservative values, and this is the thing that creates this bond between the two of us,” Sosa said.

Cartagena said that there will be 21 million eligible Latino voters in 2012, and that 16% of this population can be considered “swing voter” -- meaning that Latinos will play a more important role than ever before.

“Let’s keep in mind that in 2000 there were only 7 million Latino voters who actually voted. Since then, the number of Latinos who will be registered voters is estimated to be double that,” she said.

Cartagena also emphasized that the Latino population skews young, and that politicians would do well to focus their energies on this demographic. “Every year 500,000 or 600,000 Latinos turn 18, so the parties have an opportunity to engage this voter earlier on,” she said.

Later in the panel discussion, Cartagena qualified her statement about not caring about immigration herself, saying that the topic is only important to her as an American citizen and not because of her Latina identity. “Let’s not forget 85% or 90% of Latinos are here in this country legally…so I mean, let’s move on from that single issue,” she said.

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“I don’t care about immigration – I just don’t,” said Chiqui Cartagena, VP of Corporate Marketing for Univision. The audience giggled. Three other expert panelists on stage with Cartagena, ...
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05:46 PM on 10/19/2011
WHAT?! So I did some research. Chiqui Cartagena is from Spain and went to the University of Miami in Florida. SHE DOES NOT represent Latinas/os. I can tell you that as a Latino immigration is EXTREMELY important to me and my neighbors. My 85 year old grandmother cares deeply about immigration and she's been a citizen for 50+ years. These panelists obviously don't interact with working class Latinos - the individuals that make up the Latino community.
03:11 PM on 10/06/2011
This Latino right here does not find immigration to be the most important issue. I have been a US Citizen since I was 6, so it doesn't affect me anymore. Getting the economy back on track should come first.
07:18 PM on 10/19/2011
That's so admirable of you to care about the 14 million people who are stuck in limbo, have had families separated, have worked in horrific conditions. And you call yourself a Latino. Obviously you don't have any actual ties to the Latino community, otherwise you wouldn't be so careless and self-absorbed. Stop fooling yourself, you are no Latino in their eyes.
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12:02 AM on 10/06/2011
It may not be for Latinos, but it is for those who despise Latinos.
07:13 PM on 10/19/2011
it's important for those that have personal ties to immigration as well. It's important for everyone.
03:30 AM on 10/05/2011
It is rather cynical for a leading VP of Hispanic media, particularly one who earns her salary, profits and dividends from Spanish-dominant, immigrant television viewers to assert seriously, or even jokingly, that “I don’t care about immigration, I just don’t”. And to make that assertion in a context in which nearly 400,000 Latino undocumented are being deported annually strikes me as particularly galling and unacceptable

Demographics speak louder than polls: today, foreign-born Latinos comprise nearly four in ten Latinos (37%), and even undocumented Latinos and their offspring number approximately 14 million people, more than 27% of the Latino population. My question to Chiqui and her research team at Univision would be: how is it that Latina advertising and media experts like yourself repeat ad nauseam to corporate neophytes in Hispanic 101 meetings that Latinos are quintessentially family-oriented, yet you forget these very important “kernels of knowledge” about Latino immigrants

Rather than rely on Cartegena’s 10-point ranking, I invite readers to go to a more independent and respected source, PEW Hispanic, to gauge immigration’s importance to Latinos as a whole, not just to eligible voters. Last August, their survey ranked education, jobs, healthcare and immigration as the top four priorities, and more than 82% of all Latinos said that the raising the issue of immigration during the 2010 congressional elections was extremely/very important. Thus, immigration is clearly an issue that is very top-of-mind among all Latinos
10:13 AM on 10/05/2011
You are right that immigration is of major concern to Latino VOTERS. IN fact in a Congressional district that is 70% Hispanic, a white GOP Anglo unseated Rep. Ortiz and Farenthold had a tough anti-illegals platform. Most Americans who live in that district have to deal with the competition for jobs from all the illegals, and that is their main concern. Comprehensive immigration reform of the type that tries to make the illegals Legal does not have much support there.

If a long time Democratic Congressman cannot keep his seat in a 70% Hispanic district, how exactly is more illegal immigration going to help? What kind of percentage will be needed to keep such a seat safe? Will it have to be 80% or 90%. Even then I doubt that it will help since most Hispanic VOTERS think of themselves as Americans first. That is the way it is supposed to be too. We are ALL Americans first.
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06:33 PM on 10/05/2011
We are ALL Americans first is true randyjet, but you would never no that by reading these posted comments.
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10:39 AM on 10/08/2011
Excellent rebuttal. Perhaps politicians should focus on what's right in support of that American idealism and the dream we have heard so much about. The debate on immigration is at the core of all the issues cited as being more important. What is happening in Georgia is microcosm of the rest of the country. The Obama administration would do well to highlight the benefits to the American economy from the Latina population. If America gives in to its xenophobic pathology, it will bankrupt the country.
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SuperMex
02:02 AM on 10/05/2011
This column by Cristina Constanini and driven by Chiqui Cartagena, VP of Corporate Marketing for Univision is a total JOKE. Chiqui Cartagena visions about immigrants is like that of Gabriel Lerner. Both Chiqui and Gabriel's agenda is to diminish the perspective of Chicanos and of American folks of Mexican ancestry by trying to convince readers and viewers of their b-s.

Lets move on my bu??.
12:56 AM on 10/05/2011
If I was a Latino, I wouldn't be so boastful to brag about my people being 85% to 90% legally in the country. The important factor here, does America accept your presence here, in light of our economy, budget shortfalls, crimes, drugs and disease and the financial toll illegals burden U.S. taxpayer?

The answer isnt so favorable to the Latinos, which in turn, give rise to the notion of reducing immigration including the ones here, legally. And the way things look, that issues is warming up to a full mainstream view among nativist Americans (Whites, Blacks, Irish and Asians).
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boyruns
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10:48 PM on 10/04/2011
source: http://www­.npr.org/t­emplates/s­tory/story­.php?story­Id=5312900
"economist­s generally believe that when averaged over the whole economy, the effect is a small net positive.H­arvard's George Borjas says the average American's wealth is increased by less than 1 percent because of illegal immigratio­n."

and

"The economic impact of illegal immigratio­n is far smaller than other trends in the economy, such as the increasing use of automation in manufactur­ing or the growth in global trade. Those two factors have a much bigger impact on wages, prices and the health of the U.S. economy."

the more you know.
09:38 PM on 10/04/2011
In our country there are more than 11 million people many of them Latinos, but there are others like Chinese, Korean, Indians, etc without proper immigrant documentation, and the only plan the GOP has for them it is deportation. It doesn't make sense; I think, maybe the GOP secret plan it's never get a real solution, to have more undocumented people; In that scenario the immigrants don't have rights and they can be used like modern slaves, in the factories, and in the agriculture. Maybe the GOP miss the times when they could get all the labor they needed from the enslaves African Americans, and still in presidential election times, they can scare all the main stream citizens with the fictitious monster of the illegal immigration, to jump with the prize in the first round, having this story for ever. Who thinks that the problem of 11 million people is not his or her problem should go again to school and retake economics, government, social sciences, etc. If we want a strong country we have to count every body who works hard for it.
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Viper1st
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10:28 PM on 10/04/2011
"the only plan the GOP has for them it is deportatio­n."

Aren't you a bit confused?

It's the Democrats whom are splitting up mixed families by deporting 1 illegal every 79 seconds of every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month of BHO's 32-month presidency
07:09 PM on 10/19/2011
This goes beyond parties, it's about gaining the most votes. Republicans are just as likely to sell themselves, actually even more.
08:52 PM on 10/04/2011
Perhaps they forgot where they came from,for those illegals that risk their lives long ago,that they were over worked here,humiliated,treated sometimes like an"alien"from out of space,these second generation of Latinos shame on you.these new comers got the same dream give them a chance.
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08:57 PM on 10/04/2011
"those illegals that risk their lives long ago"??

The one granted unvetted Amnesty 24yrs, 11months ago by U.S. Presidential executive order on November 6, 1986, by (R) President Ronald Reagan

Real tuff gig to U.S. citizenship, wasn't it?
07:06 PM on 10/19/2011
Jorgelzorro's talking about the braceros program, you know, the program in which your grandparents contracted to have Mexican laborers work in the fields in horrific conditions, and still had undocumented AND naturalized Mexicans deported. Real tough gig for your grandparents, wasn't it?
07:52 PM on 10/04/2011
Last week when Obama had that "Latino" roundtable meeting he thought he was speaking to Hispanic-America. But of the three reporters two of them were immigrants.

Hispanic-Americans and Latino Immigrants/Illegals don't have the same agenda. And when people like Congressman Luis Guiterrez threaten to hold back the Latino vote, he's not talking about the Hispanic-American vote because most Hispanic-Americans can't stand him.

He's talking the Latino vote in his tiny little Congressional district -- that's all he speaks for.

In other words Obama's "Latino" advisers are playing him like a bass fiddle. They don't represent the Hispanic-American vote.
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SuperMex
07:13 PM on 10/04/2011
Chiqui Cartagena, I would willing to bet that your panelist excluded 67% of the Latino populace that is represented by folks of Mexican ancestry. You and your panelist are more than likely pushing your own agenda that excludes Chicano.

This column is a joke.
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CrestedSparrow
08:13 PM on 10/04/2011
Hear! Hear! SuperMex. Faved and already Fanned!
07:03 PM on 10/04/2011
They like our music,food,beer,tequila,women,culture but we don't like the mexicans,lol that's funny
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Mark Lindley
08:09 PM on 10/04/2011
Not everyone likes Mexican culture or food. The only Mexicans that are disliked are those in our country illegally and those who advocate for them. No need to thank me for clearing that up for you.
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CrestedSparrow
08:24 PM on 10/04/2011
In other words Mark, YOU do not likes Mexicans. No need to pretend illegals is where you draw the line, as though through some divine knowledge you can tell legals and illegals apart. And thanks for clearing that up. Great job.
04:43 PM on 10/06/2011
Be brave, but hateful and dangerous and say you're racist.
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ms schatzi
01:38 PM on 10/05/2011
I like Mexicans....alot!
07:01 PM on 10/04/2011
It is for the ones that still have family in Mexico or somewhere else
06:59 PM on 10/04/2011
While I dont like Illegal Immigration and believe they should be deported or discouraged from being in the USA .....I believe they did more to try to become an American than all those kids running around Wallstreet demanding, I dont even know what they are demanding. I personally would trade these spoiled children 3 for 1 to any other country who would be foolish enough to take them.
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AsianMan
06:30 PM on 10/04/2011
i care about immigration! bring them over! i love Mexican women! yummy
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Mark Lindley
08:10 PM on 10/04/2011
We don't have enough Mexican women here legally for you to enjoy? If not, then I suggest you move to Mexico.
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SuperMex
01:19 AM on 10/05/2011
Mexican women were here before you Mark Lindley. I suggest that you move back to Austria. Who invited you Mark?
04:46 PM on 10/06/2011
At least you're not racist, though you are sexist and that's just as worse.
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AsianMan
06:14 PM on 10/06/2011
if i love Mexican women i am a sexist?! i don't understand the reasoning here. although i agree that sexism and racism are both bad, but i wanting sex w/any type of women is not sexism!