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SXSW Eco: Replacing Unsustainable Language To Tackle Climate Change

Climate Change Communication

First Posted: 10/06/11 09:19 PM ET Updated: 12/06/11 05:12 AM ET

The average 'Walmart mom' may not necessarily care about a reduction in waste or greenhouse gas emissions achieved by removing the dimple from the bottom of a wine bottle, said Brooke Buchanan, the multinational retailer's director of communications for sustainability. "But if we can translate that into cost savings, the message is heard loud and clear."

In this case, the welcomed message is a price rollback of 21 cents on a bottle of Oak Leaf merlot.

During a panel at the SXSW Eco conference in Austin, Texas, on Wednesday, Buchanan and other experts discussed the importance of language when talking about environmental sustainability and climate change. The consensus: The conversation has fallen short, and needs to be refocused on how the issues affect people personally.

As Jeff Nesbit, executive director of Climate Nexus, put it: "We don't need to save the planet; the planet will survive without us. We need to save us."

"We have failed to convince the general public that we need to worry about the environment or climate," added Andrew Hutson, project manager for corporate partnerships at the Environmental Defense Fund, and a member of the panel. "We failed partially because of how we talk about it."

In fact, "sustainability" itself is probably not part of the ideal vocabulary, according to the panelists. Neither is "climate change" or "environmental." Even "green" is now so ubiquitous, they suggested, that it has become meaningless.

"Cost savings" may also not be the best phrase to use, according to Hutson. "If you talk about how much money is saved," he said, "someone will not be as likely to act as if you talk about the money wasted." Similarly, Hutson suggested that air pollution should be described as a fight to not lose clean air rather than one to create more clean air.

As Nesbit told the standing-room only crowd, "story-telling matters." And these narratives need to be understandable, emotionally accessible and specifically tailored for each audience.

"Some people are inspired by doom. But a lot are turned off by that message," Kelly Rigg, executive director of the Global Campaign for Climate Action, said during a separate panel discussion on Tuesday.

Religions, cultures, regions and affluence, among other factors, can all influence how someone receives a message, panelists said.

This lack of a one-size-fits-all frame adds a new dimension to an already formidable challenge: How do you get through to everyone at the same time?

While the panelists offered no easy answer, they provided a few strategies to consider, starting with some up-and-coming words and phrases that may prove more appealing -- "community," "green jobs," "aspiration" and "nostalgia" -- or at least more emotional -- "fear" and "health risk."

"Do not lead with ideas that threaten people's core beliefs, values, or the understanding of their lives," Hutson recommended. "They turn off when they hear that. People seek information and interpret facts that correspond and confirm their existing beliefs."

Environmentalists themselves are often accused of "preaching to the choir." Even Buchanan acknowledged that it "seems like we're just communicating with each other."

"You have to talk to the people that may speak a different language," Hutson added. "It's not enough to be right. You have to tell a story in a compelling way to the right audience."

The audience should include people who may not have traditionally been part of the debate, suggested Robin Rather, CEO of Collective Strength Inc., a sustainability consulting firm. Discussions tend to revolve around cities and suburbia, for example, yet residents of rural communities are just as important in tackling climate change, Rather said during a separate Wednesday panel. She recalled a visit with her "redneck cousins" -- who "drive 550 pickups with gun racks" -- in which the topic of conversation turned to which fuel efficient cars are the most manly.

"They aren't doing it to green up the planet," she said. "They have strong economic motivations." The $600 an average person spends owning a car can be especially burdensome for low-income families.

What's more, it would be "political suicide" not to consider rural populations, added Rather, noting that these communities house a number of elected officials, including many of the politicians who are "not driving the decisions that we need to be making," she said.

In the end, the most important thing is to simply start talking. "In order to persuade, you need to have a conversation," Hutson said. "We can't even say 'climate' in Washington right now. We need to change that."

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The average 'Walmart mom' may not necessarily care about a reduction in waste or greenhouse gas emissions achieved by removing the dimple from the bottom of a wine bottle, said Brooke Buchanan, the mu...
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garboop2
07:48 PM on 10/09/2011
I am with you on this RP.
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ChrisInYao
There's impermanence to all things big and small
11:19 AM on 10/09/2011
I think people generally feel good, or feel willing to doing something for the health of the planet when that action is seen to benefit someone or something in their sphere of influence. As the SXSW Eco conference realized, people want to see how the issues affect them personally.

Walmart moms don't want to be driven by intimidation or guilt from upper spheres of influence in gov't and big business, Rather, what's something that they can do that makes them feel empowered to help foster environmental health. I mean, is it fun to listen to people chin wag over what choices you should be making, in addition to using language that isn't explained to you?
This American
An end to all this nonsense
01:01 PM on 10/08/2011
If the dogs won't eat the dog food you are making, changing the label on the can provides only a temporary respite from the sales problems you are having.
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
05:06 PM on 10/08/2011
Has zero bearing upon the science of AGW.
This American
An end to all this nonsense
05:16 PM on 10/08/2011
Read it, it isn't supposed to.
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Gottlieb
hated by left since 1973 and right since 1982
08:00 PM on 10/08/2011
Dear gallon,

AGW is an acronym for Anthropogenic Global Warming as well as Anti-Global Warming.

I think you should rethink your "Unsustainable Language To Tackle Climate Change" which just confuses this conversation.

This conversation is about communicating to the average "Walmart mom" and your reply to "This American" does not advance the discussion.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
07:44 PM on 10/08/2011
Science isn't a commodity. And while this effort may be valiant, it's already been tried, it's time they realize that some people don't care, will never care, are incapable of understanding the science and pathologically think this is some tribal conspiracy to tax them. They cannot be reached....they have blockers built in their brain that refuses empirical evidence and reasoning...

What part of - we have studied all the alternatives, look for yourself, our data is online for all to see. The amount of CO2 we put in the air is warming our planet...

It doesn't get simpler...a malformed segment of the population can't even see that sentence...what they see is: Al Gore owns a house with a toaster so it must be a conspiracy to enrich him.

Madness
09:05 PM on 10/08/2011
The madness was in thinking they could get away with such a big Big Lie until the Globalists got all their ducks in a row.

"Quote by Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official: "We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy...Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization...One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore."

Quote by Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are caused by human intervention....and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or….one invented for the purpose."
Lots more lovely stuff here:
http://www.c3headlines.com/global-warming-quotes-climate-change-quotes.html
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Richard2
11:11 AM on 10/08/2011
Al Gore is doing a disservice to science by overplaying the link between climate change and weather. To claim that we are causing meteorological events that would not have occurred without human influence is just plain wrong.

Myles Allen in the guardian.co.uk, Friday 7 October 2011
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
11:52 AM on 10/08/2011
how much did your integrity cost?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
05:07 PM on 10/08/2011
You are making the presumption that R2, et al, ever had integrity.
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Richard2
11:54 AM on 10/09/2011
The Guardian newspaper is the voice of the British Labor Party. It is a "tipping point" event when even environmental writers at a paper such as the Guardian are now attacking the alarmist pseudo-science of Al Gore.

Having sided with the real scientists against the alarmism of the Times Atlas of Greenland, the Guardian has taken another step away from the alarmists.
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chrisd3
12:00 PM on 10/08/2011
"To claim that we are causing meteorolog­ical events that would not have occurred without human influence is just plain wrong"

Of course, that isn't actually what he said, but never mind. Facts are just SO annoying.
08:41 PM on 10/07/2011
MORE DECEPTION
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lambdin1
What's this?
04:12 PM on 10/07/2011
Ok. I'm sold on cost savings. But for whom? And how does it impact green? Especially a green enviorment?
This American
An end to all this nonsense
01:06 PM on 10/08/2011
So you would be in favor of conventionally produced electricity, rather than solar and wind the conversion to which would "necessarily cause electricity rates to skyrocket" according to President Obama.
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lambdin1
What's this?
01:27 PM on 10/08/2011
No. All I was asking for whom is it cost effective. Sometime and more often a enity with good intentions is co-opted by the enities which are being fought. Sometimes it starts slowly. Language is one way. I believe that calling something black when it is black and white when it is white. Changing is not always for the better. Are we really being careful and not being co-opted insidiously?
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
09:30 AM on 10/09/2011
Obama never said that. I believe you are relying on an out of context clip where the president is describing what he wouldn't do and are pretending that he was talking about solar and wind.

Not only is it a lie, it is a compound lie.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
09:26 AM on 10/09/2011
"But for whom? And how does it impact green? Especially a green enviorment­?"

One of the examples above was the removal of the dimple in glass bottles. It reduces the mass of the container and saves on manufacturing and shipping costs. That means less energy is used for the same result.
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lambdin1
What's this?
01:40 PM on 10/09/2011
Regarding the dimple in a glass bottle. It is in place for bottles for bottles that are under pressure. Take champagne, It has a large dimple. So do soda pop cans and beer cans. It all has to do with pressure generated inside the container. All gas containers have a dimple (concaved) or rounded end(s) (convexed). A natural gas container designed for storage is round. An engineer can explain better than I can the importance of strength in these structures. My problem is that while removing the dimple in a glass bottle sounds great, it may not be at all feasible. If I were a manufacture, I would do all I could to contian expenses in order to increase profit. Sometimes knowing why something is; is more important than cost savings. Again letting language dictate parameters is good. However you need to be very careful of greed. It moves insidiously most often without anyones knowledge. Manufactures are always on the look out to weaken regulations. Again greed is the motivator. Even with green manufactures!
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kori77
03:53 PM on 10/07/2011
Language, more people need to read books like George Lakoff's Don't Think of an Elephant. Conservatives have largely shaped our language, especially in politics and that's one of the reasons why it's so hard to get through to people. We actually think mostly unconsciously and largely in a metaphorical way too.
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snoopjohnny
03:39 PM on 10/07/2011
I saw an ominous piece on the History Channel last night projecting events into 2080, given the profound inaction of world leaders (the current status quo). Can we wake people up in time, using good marketing? People seem willing to believe almost anything if it's expressed just so.....it's worth a try!
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Bubblessharky
Where sanity dares to tread
03:32 PM on 10/07/2011
Thank god at last for some pragmatic discussion about how to communicate more effectively. Unfortunately our society is now so out of touch with the environment and the real world, and is so much more influenced by media, the message needs to be translated in a way the masses can understand.

We have no ability to put a dollar on clean air or water. For now. We can only value what is left in the purse.

In New Zealand, the govt is now valuing energy management in completely new ways. Attempting to put a dollar value on something like monitoring energy use or reduced staff sickness through better air quality. If we can put a dollar value on clean air and water next, then this is where we need to head. Weirdly, I say, if we can sell this concept to Wall Street and let them make some money out of it, then it will really take off.
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jkanon
A pragmatic progressive
02:23 PM on 10/07/2011
I understand that Frank, Luntz, the conservative word smith who coined "death taxes" came up with "climate change" to soften "global warming".
04:00 PM on 10/07/2011
It morphed to "climate change" in 2006/07 when it became too apparent that it wasn't warming anymore. Remember the immortal words of Kevin Trenberth in one of the CRU emails:

" The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t."
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_the_warming_conspiracys_most_damning_emails/

Now he's trying to pretend all the missing heat is hiding...at the bottom of the oceans.
What I love about "climate scientists" is how inventive they are.
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Badgersouth
05:08 PM on 10/07/2011
Scientists have been using both "climate change" and "global warming" for decades. It's a non issue..
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Ouroboros Rex
05:09 PM on 10/07/2011
No. It changed when republican pollster Frank Luntz suggested it, just as the last poster said. Further, it didn't stop warming in 2006-7. It kept right on warming, momentarily hidden by other climate. Now it's back and warming faster than ever.

Just so you know, Andrew Bolt is a professional climate liar, and your link is to an article full of baldfaced lies. The people whose emails were stolen were all cleared of any and all scientific wrongdoing by four separate investigations. Which is why you're stuck presenting lies from 2009. 2010 is on record as the hottest year ever in recorded history.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jul/08/muir-russell-climategate-climate-science
http://www.financialfeed.net/scientists-cleared-over-global-warming-no-misconduct-occurred/852139/

Oops, cleared by six investigations, my mistake.

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/debunking-misinformation-stolen-emails-climategate.html

Incidentally, the inventiveness of climate scientists is nothing compared to the skeptics, who can't settle on a story to save their lives. Over 40 different crazy excuses and counting. lol
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
08:37 AM on 10/11/2011
It has officially been climate change since 1988.
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chaotician1
01:00 PM on 10/07/2011
Well, I'd say you are naive at best! Until you convince the Generals, the Oligarchs, the 1 percenters that their is some benefit for them in the next 90 days in increasing their power, their wealth or both; forgettaboutit! If the last 30 years have not convinced you that facts, science, truth, species survival, or any mundane considers mean anything politically or economically; then you have not been paying attention. If you really care about any of that; then you need to be planning a worldwide rebellion against the Generals, the Oligarchs, and 1 percenters...good luck with that!
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chrisd3
01:25 PM on 10/07/2011
"Until you convince the Generals, the Oligarchs, the 1 percenters ...."

The rest of 'em, yes, but the generals were convinced long ago. The Pentagon has been actively planning for Climate Wars for quite a while.
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Craig Bovia
Vermont, 1791, women can vote, no slavery allowed
12:58 PM on 10/07/2011
This is Brilliant and not a moment too soon. We must speak in a way that is meaningful to the specific audience. We need to show them how they benefit and what is in it for them. There is no problem for the Planet. It is US that are in "Heap Big Trouble".
10:57 AM on 10/07/2011
After reading this article and all these comments a quote from author and scientist David Suzuki springs to my mind:"We're all in a giant car heading towards a brick wall and we're all still arguing over where we're going to sit."

People still see climate change as distant, abstract and politically contested. Very few see it as a real threat to themselves or their families.
What will make people take it seriously?
I've been asking myself this question for some time, and I decided to start my own blog (http://www.100daystochangetheworld.com) as a way of tackling it. I wanted to help our planet, but felt overwhelmed by all the problems we seem to be facing. I decided that using the language of fear and doom as a way to motivate us to change the way we live just isn't working. I believe that if we all do small things with a big heart we can change the world.
As Mother Teresa once said:
“I alone cannot change the world, but I can cast a stone across the waters to create many ripples.”

Isn't it time we all woke up and stopped waiting for someone else to make everything better?
Susan
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
11:41 AM on 10/07/2011
The threat is very real. The sector that is the root of the problem, Big Energy, is expending huge amounts of cash to deflect our attention away from the problem.
01:02 PM on 10/07/2011
I agree and that's why we all need to stop waiting for someone else to sort it all out. The problem we face is huge, the finance behind the problem is enormous, but I believe it's in our power to get up and do something about it.
Susan (http://www.100daystochangetheworld.com)
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Craig Bovia
Vermont, 1791, women can vote, no slavery allowed
01:02 PM on 10/07/2011
Yes it is, my Dear. I am with you
F/F
Cheers
10:15 AM on 10/07/2011
Technology can never replace the systems that GOD put into place upon the creation. Everything that the so-called Green movement wants us to use requires dirty energy to produce. You can't create solar panels, windmills, geothermal drilling, tidal collection generators, etc. without using the more cost efficient and energy efficient dirty fossil fuels. You can't grow the food we eat without fossil fuels, for it takes diesel to power the tractors/combines/tractor trailors to plant, fertilize, harvest and transport the food. You can't build homes without using the lumber, brick, concrete, drywall, shingles, etc. which are are all dependent on the heavy use of fossil fuel to mine, separate, transport, manufacture, and create. In other words, this noble idea looks good on the outside, but it cannot be sustained without a dirty fossil fuel backup system. It could enhance some systems, but it will never completely replace the old ways of doing things. If we wanted a truly Green system we would return to horses and buggies, growing our own food in small farms, having private wells, and not relying on electricity for all of our entertainment. In other words we would have to return to the 18th century and be more labor centered instead of machine centered. Now you know that THAT isn't going to happen, so pumping trillions into unsustainable ideas (solyndra) is pure foolishness. Especially since the rest of the world is rushing to undercut our labor costs, and fill their streets with luxury cars.
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Craig Bovia
Vermont, 1791, women can vote, no slavery allowed
01:04 PM on 10/07/2011
OMG. Another very bright dummy
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
10:00 AM on 10/07/2011
They said it just right as they were leaving on the last day.

"We're screwed."