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Dennis Kucinich And Marcy Kaptur Clashing Thanks To Ohio Redistricting Plan

By JOHN SEEWER and ANDREW MIGA   10/07/11 11:18 AM ET  AP

Ohio's new congressional district map has thrust Reps. Marcy Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich, two veteran Democratic politicians who call themselves friends, into an awkward primary faceoff.

TOLEDO, Ohio -- Ohio's new congressional district map has thrust Reps. Marcy Kaptur and Dennis Kucinich, two veteran Democratic politicians who call themselves friends, into an awkward primary faceoff that both sides expect to be hard-fought. Already, the veneer of collegiality is beginning to fade.

Kaptur is casting herself as a workhorse who has risen to be an influential insider on Capitol Hill. And while not well-known nationally, she notes she has gone to bat for Ohio. Kucinich is a quirky two-time presidential candidate with a national following among progressives.

Stuck in the middle are the union leaders and blue collar workers who've backed them both for years.

The new map eliminates two of Ohio's U.S. House seats because of the state's slow population growth. Republicans who redrew the state's congressional boundaries decided to solidify their hold on vulnerable districts and lump Democrats into four of the state's new 16 districts, down from 18.

Whichever party controls a state legislature typically structures redistricting so that incumbents in the majority party are protected and the minority party seats are put at risk.

Redistricting is making rivals of same-party incumbents in other states as well. In Illinois, the Democratic-controlled legislature put Rep. Joe Walsh, a tea party follower, into the same district as fellow Republican and tea party supporter Rep. Randy Hultgren. In North Carolina, Democratic Rep. Brad Miller either will have to run against fellow incumbent Rep. David Price in a primary or run in a district that leans Republican.

In Ohio, Republicans who redrew the congressional boundaries put Kucinich and Kaptur together in a district that hugs the Lake Erie shoreline from Cleveland to Toledo. It's heavily tilted toward Democrats, so whoever emerges from the primary, now scheduled for March, will be a big favorite to win the seat.

The move angered Kaptur, who lost much of the Toledo area she had represented since 1983, but it delighted Kucinich, who was so convinced that he would be drawn out of his Cleveland district that he began shopping for a new one out of state earlier this year. He visited Washington state several times for political events over the summer, making it no secret he was eyeing two open seats out West.

His flirtation with running for Congress from Washington state is already giving Kaptur talking points.

"He was campaigning out there," Kaptur told The Associated Press. "I didn't seek to be a representative from the West Coast or the East Coast, I want to represent Ohio's north coast. And I have been."

Kucinich has been gracious in his comments about Kaptur, but a fund-raising email hints at his line of attack. Referring to Kaptur's work on behalf of Ohio's defense firms and military bases, Kucinich's pitch said, "We aren't going to have Wall Street pay for our campaign. We aren't going to ask the defense industry for a donation."

Kucinich praised Kaptur in an interview.

"I can only say good things about her," the eight-term congressman said. "She has always been kind to me. Obviously it's going to be a vigorous competition and I don't take anything for granted."

Kucinich, 64, is known for his offbeat, brash style and zest for political combat since becoming Cleveland's "boy mayor" at age 31. He's won fans for pushing causes like a "Department of Peace" and fighting to impeach former Vice President Dick Cheney.

He ran for president in 2004 and 2008, saying Democrats weren't doing enough to end the Iraq war and winning the backing of many Hollywood celebrities, including actor Sean Penn. He said during a 2007 presidential debate that he saw an unidentified flying object while visiting the home of actress Shirley MacLaine.

Kaptur, 65, isn't an attention grabber. But she can get fiery, especially when she's talking to autoworkers at one of the many factories that dot northern Ohio. And she's taken on other Democrats, once openly criticizing President Bill Clinton for his support of the North American Free Trade Agreement in the 1990s, saying it cost Ohio thousands of jobs.

She said she plans to highlight her "real results" for Ohio. She cited her efforts to get the World War II Memorial built in Washington. As a senior member of the House Appropriations Committee, she's also steered federal dollars to dozens of solar and infrastructure projects in Ohio.

"There's a little bit of a difference between the two of us," Kaptur said. "I think that I am very involved at the ground level, not so much in the atmospherics."

They agree on most issues, with the most notable exception being abortion. She's against it.

Both have been outspoken against NAFTA – a popular position in their Rust Belt districts, where unemployment is in double digits in some cities.

"Everything, everywhere, it's jobs – jobs and crime," said part-time construction worker and college student Richard Regler, 46, of Lorain, a steel-making city in the newly drawn district, which had a 10 percent unemployment rate in August.

Kucinich and Kaptur haven't faced a close general election in a long time or had to raise much money. Kaptur won her 14th term a year ago by an 18 percent margin, while Kucinich had an 11 percent victory.

They had a cordial meeting recently when both spoke at a labor organization fundraiser. Kaptur said she told him she would run on her record, before adding, "We have to do what we have to do."

What's unknown is how many influential Democrats and donors will pick sides.

Mayors and other lawmakers in the district who are sure to be courted by the two campaigns will be weighing how it could impact their careers before making an endorsement, said Democratic Party chairman Chris Redfern.

Cuyahoga County Republican Chairman Rob Frost plans on running against the winner of the primary.

Organized labor leaders say choosing among either Kaptur or Kucinich is kind of like being forced to pick their favorite child. "No matter the outcome they get rid of one of their strongest labor supporters," said David Childers, business manager for the International Brotherhood Of Electrical Workers Local 1194 in Milan.

He admires Kucinich's "fighting spirit" and calls Kaptur "a good friend of labor."

"It does put us in a bind," he said.

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Associated Press writer Thomas J. Sheeran contributed to this report from Elyria.

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Cornelius F Brantley Jr
08:58 PM on 12/01/2011
This is not good at all. Two of our best. Obama needs to make room in the cabinet for one of them now.
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Gestas
Mountain Man
10:29 AM on 10/11/2011
Here you go SARAH PALIN Fans...Stop sending your Dimes and Dollars to her..Here is someone just as bad if not worse than Sarah...
04:32 AM on 10/11/2011
As someone who grew up in northwest Ohio and is fairly familiar with the actual work (as opposed to the rhetoric) of both candidates, I have to say that Kaptur is the better choice... maybe not the sexier choice, but the better choice. The truth about Kucinich is that he is a politician who has always had his eye on something more prestigious-- a senate seat, the white house, etc. He likes to make a name for himself on the national stage, and he has become an important progressive ideologue, but Marcy Kaptur has been a hard-working labor advocate with her ear to the ground and with reliably progressive fiscal policies from day one. She has devoted herself to the same post for almost 30 years without the slightest hint that she is angling for something bigger and better. If recent history has taught us anything, it SHOULD have taught us that local politics actually matter. Its not going to be helpful if Kuchinich gets elected with the aid of donations from California and New Jersey and then spends his entire term running for the presidency.

All of that aside, its majorly f**ked up that this redistricting has happened in the first place, and it is really a shame that we have to lose either of these veteran representatives.
09:37 PM on 10/12/2011
My sentiments exactly. To my knowledge, Marcy never had to run in a Primary because so many in her district thought she was neglecting her constituents like Dennis had to go through recently. Though the whole defense contractor connection issue does give me pause for Kaptur.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
02:34 AM on 10/14/2011
Kucinich saved you guys from the banksters...
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wardropper
New empty micro-bio
10:29 PM on 10/10/2011
"He said during a 2007 presidential debate that he saw an unidentified flying object while visiting the home of actress Shirley MacLaine"

Everybody sees unidentified flying objects while visiting the home of actress Shirley MacLaine...

Unfortunate terminology, given its reputation, but I'll bet he saw something which he couldn't identify...
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wardropper
New empty micro-bio
10:22 PM on 10/10/2011
The writer of this article deserves to be sued for calling Kucinich "quirky".

He's one of the most constistent politicians in recent memory, and his intelligence, like Ron Paul's, naturally makes the less intelligent feel like they're in the presence of something "quirky", but that is not grounds for blackening their character.

It's a throwback to the days when some of us were English Puritans, full of bigotry, superstition and hypocritical piety, and needing to flee our homeland, where such things were despised.
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JohnQpublic81
I like Jesus, it's his fan club that scares me
09:05 PM on 10/10/2011
I was really hoping to hear that they both agree that money has too much influence in politics and that instead of campaigning against each other, they just plan on having a few small debates which will be televised in their district and online.
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Adam of CA
Independent Information Hunter
03:03 PM on 10/10/2011
Dennis has sure paid his dues, and deserves to be reelected. Go Dennis!
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Candide33
I heart Bernie Sanders
02:02 PM on 10/08/2011
Wonder why he doesn't just run for senate?
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AnathTheGoddess
A legend in her own mind.
10:44 PM on 10/10/2011
Because the Senate seat that is open is currently held by fellow Democrat Sherrod Brown who is running for re-election. GOP Rob Portman won in 2010, so unfortunately, that seat is not open until 2016.
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Candide33
I heart Bernie Sanders
11:29 PM on 10/10/2011
:( poor little guy needs a good spot, he has the heart of a lion and is a champion of the people.
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01:45 AM on 10/08/2011
Dennis Kucinich is probably the democrat whom I respect the most. I sincerely hope he's able to retain his seat.

It's hard to dislike an honest, principled man, even when you don't agree with all of his policies.

Go Dennis!
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Binea
Only a fool denies she is a fool, I am no fool
05:05 PM on 10/07/2011
If I could afford to..I'd move to Ohio to help Dennis..how long before the vote ?
will a donation from someone in NY be ok ?
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Binea
Only a fool denies she is a fool, I am no fool
02:53 PM on 10/08/2011
If it is legal for someone in another state to send Dennis money..I will gather as many Ron Paul supporters as I can to do so..we have a deep respect for you mr.Kucinich..even though we differ on HOW to fix things we agree on the most important.AND we NEED Honest men/women of Integrity like yourself in Gov..do NOT dispair..we have your back ( I'll make them :)
04:02 PM on 10/07/2011
she is against abortion? then, i go for kucinich.

a progressive Dem. woman who is against giving women rights to their own bodies? what is she, some religious freak?

if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
03:56 PM on 10/10/2011
Kucinich is not pro-choice. He is a devout Catholic.
06:12 PM on 10/10/2011
thanks for informing me. well, always more to learn. that settles it, i won't vote for either of them. aren't there any pro-choice politicos there?
09:39 PM on 10/12/2011
I'm pretty sure he had a change of heart. http://www.ontheissues.org/2004/dennis_kucinich_abortion.htm
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Pollitrix
Progressive Liberal Conservative
03:48 PM on 10/07/2011
Although, a Dem money to Hultgreen campaign on the way. Joe Walsh go home get a job and pay your child support or go to jail like every other citizen who does not pay.
03:39 PM on 10/07/2011
Not only is our economic system in disrepair, but so is our election system. How wrong is it that we allow a "party (that) controls a state legislature typically structures redistricting so that incumbents in the majority party are protected and the minority party seats are put at risk."?

Is that really the intent of how redistricting is supposed to be done - drawing lines so one party has an advantage over the other? It's manipulation pure and simple.
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Randolph Greer
I am a Poet .
03:10 PM on 10/07/2011
As someone from another state, I have a view that I hope the voters up in Ohio will take into account. While I disagree with Kaptur on abortion, I think she is the one to choose. She was one of the strongest opponents of "free trade" which is the foundation idea that has led to the corporatization of this country and the world. When it comes time to represent the people, she will always be on their side. Kucinich, on the other hand, has more self-centeredness. and really is something of a lone wolf. Frankly, his personality is not that of a legislator.
05:00 PM on 10/07/2011
Free trade did not lead to corporatization of this country. Government intervention in the market lead to corporatism.
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Randolph Greer
I am a Poet .
07:24 PM on 10/07/2011
I sure hope that no one read your statement but me. Because everyone without prior knowledge who reads it, is bound to to suffer from a mental deficiency in the future.
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Binea
Only a fool denies she is a fool, I am no fool
03:00 PM on 10/08/2011
I am a ron Paul supporter but, Dennis Kucinich needs our Help..if legal to donate to his campaign from another state,lets donate whatever we can..he is very rare..he is like a Ron Paul, just on the other side
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JoAnnCr
02:58 PM on 10/07/2011
Why doesn't one of them move into a Republican leaning Ohio district?