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Michele Bachmann Blasts Herman Cain's 'Devil' 9-9-9 Plan At Republican Debate In New Hampshire

First Posted: 10/11/2011 9:10 pm Updated: 12/11/2011 4:12 am

Herman Cain, as is his wont, defended his 9-9-9 plan during Tuesday night's Republican primary debate by saying that everyone who's analyzed it -- and that includes economic minds from the left and the right (see Bruce Bartlett) -- is just "wrong" because they've started from the wrong set of assumptions. Those same economists struggle to analyze the plan because Cain refuses to show his work. Per ABC News:

“The first thing I think is show me the money,” said Joel Slemrod, an economics professor at the University of Michigan. “I want to know whether it adds up and I suspect it doesn’t.”

The 9-9-9 plan eliminates the payroll tax and estate tax, which brought in a combined $883 billion in 2010, or about 41 percent of the $2.16 trillion collected by the federal government last year. Cain’s proposal also wipes out taxes on capital gains and repatriated corporate profits.

The Tax Policy Center estimates that cutting capital gains taxes alone would allow 23,000 millionaires to pay no income taxes, a move that would add $11 billion to the deficit each year. Cain’s fellow GOP presidential candidates Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich and Jon Huntsman also support eliminating the capital gains tax.

Cain’s plan to end taxes on corporate profits that are earned overseas and then brought back into America would drop federal revenues by about $80 billion over the next decade, according to the tax center.

“Everything he’s talking about is if you just provide tax cuts to rich people we will all fare well,” Mishel said. “But hasn’t that been the theme for 30 years and doesn’t everybody agree that the middle class does not fare well? This is a triumph of amnesia.”

And per the Christian Science Monitor:

But probably the largest economic impact would be shifting the tax burden. “It's a huge tax reduction on the very top and a huge tax increase for moderate and low income people," says Michael Graetz, a professor at Columbia University who has testified before Congress on taxes.

For example, economists have a measure called marginal propensity to consume. Low income people tend to spend about 98 percent of their income, middle income people spend 97 percent and high income people spend 90 percent.

Thus, Cain’s proposal would result in an individual who makes $20,000 per year, paying $1,800 in income taxes, plus another $1,605 in sales taxes, assuming they spend 98 percent of their income. The combined income and sales taxes would amount to 17 percent of income.

By way of comparison, using today’s tax rates, that individual – married filing separately – would pay $2,575 in combined taxes or 12.8 percent of their income, according to the website moneychimp.com.

Michele Bachmann blew up Twitter with her ensuing quip, "When you take the 9-9-9 plan, and turn it upside down, the devil's in the details." Michele Bachmann is correct!

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01:01 PM on 11/02/2011
Michele Bachmann blew up Twitter with her ensuing quip, "When you take the 9-9-9 plan, and turn it upside down, the devil's in the details." She is closer to a fundamentalist than anything. I BET if you asked her about "the rapture" or the end of days prophecy she would be in total agreement.
01:30 PM on 10/28/2011
Cain is a Satan Name .... and also 999 is 666. Anyone with The Lord in their lives knows what i am talking about!!!! In Jesus's name Amen!! Goooo Bachmann
04:37 PM on 10/23/2011
Hold the boat!!!

I just realized that all those sales ploys which use "9.99" instead of rounding up to zero are also a satanic plot!!

Michele Bachmann has shown use that capitalism's greatest psychological tool is straight from the Beast itself, which, considering Christ's famed disdain for wealth, has a certain mythic logic.
06:06 PM on 10/15/2011
I was a fan of Bachmann, but after that comment, no longer. Herman Cain is a model citizen for anyone of any color or religion. He has the best interests of America at heart - that is what I believe after listening to him for many years on WSB in Atlanta. He did not go after BO because of his race, but instead, the black community for voting for him because of his race. Instead of the black community admiring Cain for his ability to succeed despite long odds, they are vilifying him because of his high character. Make no mistake - BO is out to destroy our American way of life, and he is succeeding - the latest is that occupy wall street nonsense - a collection of druggies, bums, and clueless college kids led by union thugs. Cain's 9-9-9 is a step in the right direction - and everyone benefits - the low income folks get a break. No more IRS - that's the best part - no more lobbyists, corrupt politicians will be out of business.
The sooner Cain becomes president, the sooner prosperity will be restored to America.
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06:36 PM on 10/23/2011
LOL! Did you lose respect for much of the Republican party when they made similar dishonest attacks against President Obama?
06:58 PM on 10/14/2011
She is not as attractive as Palin and she is introducing a tax plan "Reagan Style". She'd better go somewhere.
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deebastet
05:28 PM on 10/13/2011
Bachmann is always right!
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deebastet
05:27 PM on 10/13/2011
Again thanks Pending persons, wonder why you take so long with the Pending.?
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deebastet
05:27 PM on 10/13/2011
Leave it to Bachmann to bring her own downtrodden religion into 999. She must dream about Satan every day, mmmm wonder why?
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RSKaz
Impact not ego.
01:46 PM on 10/13/2011
Once again, a Tea Bag Republican infers that an African-American man is the Antichrist. But hey! The deviled egg is in the details. If you flip Michele Bachmann upside down you get three minutes of lunatic fringe gibberish.
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05:12 PM on 10/13/2011
Just imagine if Cain's plan had been 888?
What would Shelly do?
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RSKaz
Impact not ego.
08:38 AM on 10/14/2011
One could say she'd flip the number vertical and claim "Herb" was espousing triple infinity but we all know the girl thinks theoretical physics is a hoax.
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12:16 PM on 10/13/2011
Cain knows his 999 proposal makes no sense. To him it is catchy and an easy something to throw out there for political purpose. The purpose is Cain can say, "I have a plan". He knows it makes no sense, but it's something...anything,....easy to remember,...catchy. Herman Cain knows that he has nothing. He doesn't care. The Republican tea party knows that they do not have a viable candidate in Cain, but they do have a viable, of the highest quality, "Negro" pawn to display to try and derail the progress resulting from the civil rights movement in this country. Any African American that would seek to defame the President Obama in the racial way that Cain is doing doesn't deserve recognition from rational Americans. There are far more rational Americans than there are politically and ethically insane Americans that are the current crop of Republican candidates. There are more rational Republicans than this backwater, old southern, turn of the century, yesteryear crop. Herman Cain is a joke to the highest order because he allows himself to embrace this indignity against himself. He is am absolute clown. To emphasize his non- importance, the tea party mob put Sarah Palin on Fox News to deliberately call Herman Cain by another name, several times! Cain reminds me of a very scary movie character I saw some time ago. It was the sadistic clown, "Pennywise", in Stephen King's "It". I also recall a biblical character, Abel's brother, Cain.
Rogell
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12:07 AM on 10/13/2011
Michele Bachmann has a penchant for not owning up to her gaffes, and assuming responsibility for them. Thus, her values leave little to be desired.
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No brag, just fact.
10:45 PM on 10/12/2011
Give Bigbiz a $99,000 tax write-off for every 99 jobs it creates over the next 9 years. They have already profited greatly, from the tax breaks they’ve enjoyed (without reciprocation) over the past decade.
10:25 PM on 10/12/2011
ok 2 anti 999 arguments I dont like:A- The dems will try to raise it. True but they will mess with anything to make it serve there purpose. Instead of debating this point we should debate which plan is the best in the form in which its presented. B-simple plans are not good enough, Bull#%&!. Speaking of dems screwing with good plans you can hide something in a 59 point plan and attach it to something we like and pass it without even noticing it. With 9,9,9, ...how can you hide anything in 3 or 4 short paragraphs we will see the increase clear as day and vote it down
Rogell
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12:11 AM on 10/13/2011
No, your wrong! The democrats aren't going to even touch whatever it is Cain is trying to sell. Besides, it's going to take both parties to come together and develop a meaningful program.
08:01 PM on 10/12/2011
Cain should have called her on the comment, " What ever do you mean Michelle?" At the last debate she was asked how much of their earnings a person should keep. She said all of it. Who is going to pay your salary Michelle?
07:54 PM on 10/12/2011
Michelle is a former IRS tax attorney, I hope she didn't make to many boo boo's looking at numbers upside down.