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Paul Ryan's Newest Tax Policy Talking Point Trips Over Reality

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First Posted: 10/12/11 05:37 PM ET Updated: 10/13/11 07:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Joseph Rotella is president and owner of the Spencer Organ Co., a small business with 10 employees that specializes in rehabilitating pipe organs from churches and communities around the country. The operation does quite well, with roughly $2 million in revenue a year and enough profit to land Rotella squarely in the top tax bracket that benefits most from the Bush tax cuts.

That makes Rotella Exhibit A in a new effort from Rep. Paul Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, to convince voters that in little more than a year, President Barack Obama will oversee a job-killing crush of tax hikes. Over the past week, the Wisconsin Republican has raised the frightening specter that under Obama's tax policies, small-business owners will soon be turning over half of their annual paycheck to the government.

"In 15 months' time, the top tax rate on small businesses goes to 44.8 percent. Now they are going to throw another tax increase on it," Ryan said during an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" this past Sunday. "We are going to be taxing small businesses at about 50 percent. According to the Treasury Department, 80 percent of businesses file as individuals. Sixty percent of [small] businesses in this country file their tax rates as individuals and will get hit by this new tax that goes to 50 percent in 15 months. Why would we do that?"

Broadly speaking, we wouldn't. And even if we did, it turns out that many small-business owners, including Rotella, say it wouldn't make a bit of difference in their hiring decisions.

"If we have work and things are rolling along, then we're rolling along," said Rotella. "I'm not basing business decisions on whether our tax rate shifts a little bit one way or another."

He added, "My big concern is actually infrastructure within my community, because if my employees are happy, if there's good schools, roads that work, public transportation and public services that are good, then my employees are happy and they're more productive. If public transportation gets cut, one of my employees may have a much more difficult time getting to work. That's really hard. We've invested all this time into this employee, and then they have to think about doing something else for a living."

Despite testimonials like these, Ryan's argument that 60 percent of small businesses will face a tax rate of 50 percent --
stated most recently in a CNBC interview on Wednesday morning -- seems poised to become the GOP's top talking point in the weeks, if not months, ahead, as lawmakers look to stigmatize the president's job creation proposals and grease the wheels for a further extension of the Bush tax cuts.

But the argument is largely misleading, according to both small-business owners and analysis from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

Ryan's office told HuffPost that his claim about the 50 percent rate is based on an agglomeration of several tax policies affecting wealthy individuals. By adding up the effects of multiple perks that will expire with the Bush tax cuts, and then lumping in individual Medicare taxes, Ryan created a total top rate for high earners of 44.8 percent. This combination of several different taxes is not how individual income tax rates are usually stated. Ryan could just as easily add in the average sales tax that individuals pay and cite that higher figure as the total tax rate.

On "Meet the Press," the congressman nevertheless made another addition to his already arbitrary figure, tacking on the 5.6 percent surtax on millionaires that Democrats have proposed to pay for the president's job creation proposals. From there, he arrived at the menacing 50 percent figure.

From a narrow, technical perspective, Ryan's claim about the total tax rate is true. Congressional Democrats acknowledge that the millionaires tax -- if it ever passed -- would remain in place even if the Bush tax cuts expired and the rates on the wealthy, as a result, rose.

The more problematic portion of Ryan's claim is his argument that, because many small businesses file as individuals rather than as corporations, higher taxes for rich individuals can be considered higher taxes on small businesses. In fact, the overwhelming majority of small businesses do not earn anywhere near enough profit to land them in the brackets that currently benefit from the Bush tax cuts.

According to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, just 2.2 percent of the 36 million taxpayers who report small-business income on their tax returns would land in the highest tax bracket if the Bush tax cuts were allowed to expire. And only 1 percent would make enough to be subject to the millionaires surtax.

But even within this tiny slice, many of the operations that would be subject to higher taxes are not the mom-and-pop stores that the public generally pictures when it hears "small business."

"These are not all people running what we think of as small businesses," said Roberton Williams, senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center. "They may be giving speeches, writing books, we don't know. This includes lots and lots of different kinds of people. This could be a hedge fund manager. This could be a law partnership. This could be a doctor running his own office. Or it could be a guy operating a store with three employees."

Added a White House official: "[T]he Republican definition of 'small business' includes many investment managers, lawyers and extremely wealthy people who are not, by any common-sense definition, small-business owners. In fact, more than half of the top 400 earners –- whose average income was $271 million –- would qualify as small-business owners under the Republican definition."

If Ryan's numbers are debatable, so too is the premise of his argument. A trio of progressive-minded small-business organizations -- the American Sustainable Business Council, Business for Shared Prosperity, and Wealth for the Common Good -- have collected thousands of signatures for a petition seeking to repeal the Bush tax cuts and use the resulting revenue for sustained government investment in public infrastructure, renewable energy and education.

Rotella shares the sentiment. He isn't in the millionaire bracket, but he would qualify for Ryan's almost-as-dreaded 44.8 percent rate. He doesn't care.

"I'm actually in the tax bracket where the Bush tax cuts have been beneficial for me," Rotella said. "But my business is better off if that money goes to infrastructure."


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WASHINGTON -- Joseph Rotella is president and owner of the Spencer Organ Co., a small business with 10 employees that specializes in rehabilitating pipe organs from churches and communities around the...
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02:12 PM on 10/23/2011
What unbelievable bullshit.

Most SMALL businesses - and I've represented 100's of them over 30+ years - are Sub Chapter S corporations AND SUB S CORPS DO NOT PAY ANY TAXES AT ALL. The profits are allocated to the individual shareholders who pay PERSONAL INCOME TAXES on their share of the corps profits.

Is there anything that comes out of this man's mouth that isn't a lie?
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atomicrob
Art will save mankind
04:32 AM on 10/15/2011
Why do the Republicans keep dragging Ryan out with his stupid plan that's been refuted over and over again? It's like some shoe salesman trying to sell you the wrong size just to say he tried. Their problem is they really think we're stupid. They want this gym rat to be their poster boy and no one is buying it.
09:13 PM on 10/19/2011
The Republicans do not care about America or I'ts citizens. They just want to put President
Obama out of office.
timber1647
It's either sadness or euphoria
04:53 PM on 10/14/2011
Congressman Ryan's problem is that he can't sell his plan. The math just doesn't work. It's another pie in the sky, cut at any cost, excercise by the Tea Party dominated GOP. Can anyone say Medicare Voucher System?
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vetxcl
04:42 PM on 10/14/2011
Rational people don't like anything that Rep. ALEC Ryan has to offer. He's bought and paid for.
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04:22 PM on 10/14/2011
Why don't we make it easy. Just decide a percentage that you get to keep. For folks that still work.....that is. For the successful people, those making above $250k (this year) what is their "fair share"? For the weathy? Confiscate ALL of their wealth? Then public executions? Stoning?? How about a program to snitch on your neighbor for "fairness violations". A diversity tax! For certain ethnic groups! To "level the playing field".....yep! Lets PROTEST!
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
08:08 PM on 10/19/2011
i say 17% cap gains,
everyone pays a bottom 10% tax like it was in the good ole days
top tax bracket 33%
medical, retirement, home interest, mileage (to and from work), charity, all deductible...
SwordOrShield
Software Engineer, Wonk
01:13 PM on 10/14/2011
1% or 60%, same thing, in Ryan's mind!

How the hell did this idiot get elected. One of the worst members of Congress; I only hesitate to say 'worst' because that counts as taunting Murphy.
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King Joffe Joffer
Independent, part time ruler of Zamunda
03:30 PM on 10/13/2011
The story should make everyone weary of anytime any political figure says I talked to a small business owner and they say that Obamacare, regulations, taxes, etc. are killing their business. Anytime an actual small business owner is interviewed they are not among aggrieved parties that the GOP discusses. In fact the next time any politician says they talked to a small business owner, the reporter/moderator needs to stop them and ask what business and the name of the owner so their sentiments can be verified.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
08:11 PM on 10/19/2011
small business owner with 70 employees
regulations cost money to comply with
obamacare has cost us more of an increase than in the past (goes up either way, has done nothing to cut costs)
i have to borrow money and am still paying 6 figures in fed corporate taxes to keep up with growth....the 35% rate sucks....
villain of the month club has folks scared to invest
sba loans are great, but the banks that end up writing them have lending caps....
frankieshoes1
lookitupyerdamnedself
08:06 AM on 11/12/2011
Instead of attacking the idea that people should have health care you should be looking at why the cost of your premiums is so high. Almost everyone used to have health care as part of their compensation. Now it seems that big corporate health care, which by nature should be more efficient, has profiteered to the point of excess.
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CanadianSkeptic
Amazingly, thinking can solve most problems
03:22 PM on 10/13/2011
The GOP: Never letting reality get in the way of rhetoric and ideology.
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riverwester
Indignant Badger
03:01 PM on 10/13/2011
Paul Ryan: water-carrying, tool-boy, GOP liar-extraordinaire.
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DrObvious
No more business as usual
02:40 PM on 10/13/2011
So   .....   the debt and deficit don't matter  .... again ... for Republicans.

The most pressing national issue is to ensure that rich people continue to pay really low taxes.

Not trying to create jobs that pay living wages for the more than 14 million unemployed.
Not ending two pointless wars in Afghanistan/Iraq
Not balancing revenues and expenditures
Not containing the still spiraling costs of health care
Not stabilizing the depressed housing market.

Nope.    The only thing that matters is to ensure the rich pay not a dime more toward our common public expenses.     Nothing else matters to Republicans.    And that's why we're on a brink of calamity.
09:03 PM on 10/19/2011
I think the Republicans need a new and different congress.
02:29 PM on 10/13/2011
Paul Ryan is an idiot...
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vetxcl
04:44 PM on 10/14/2011
He's just a hard-wurkin' ALEC puppet doing what sugar daddy sez. Give him a break. Criminals need to eat too.
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BBackSoon
Hello, I must be going.
02:18 PM on 10/13/2011
I am sure there are quite a few 'Small' Businesses and their owners that will be affedted, but so what?

That extra few percent will not break you. And if you business pays more in taxes, maybe you will take home a little less and won't be in the top tax bracket.
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theiFyoU
I used to be disgusted, but now I'm just amused.
02:08 PM on 10/13/2011
Why let facts intrude at this point?
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lisaman
I am a liberal American so get over it
01:56 PM on 10/13/2011
I am constantly sending these type of articles to friends and family, if only they would actually read it and learn. Alas, it is all I can do and yet it is not enough.
Rowwdy
Truth Will Set You Free
03:21 PM on 10/13/2011
*You can chain the leg of an elephant to a tree for two or three months and then remove the chain, and the elephant will remain next to the tree rocking back and forth; the elephants mind has been altered because of the imprisonment imposed upon him by his master; republican ideology is that tree and congressional representative are that chain. The only way you can try and get someone to change their minds is to ask them to prove what they are telling you, tell them to show you hard cold facts not something they heard on Fox News; the “TRUTH” and “FACTS” are great tools, and in using these tools that God given us, sometimes we get hurt ourselves…
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lisaman
I am a liberal American so get over it
03:36 PM on 10/13/2011
So true. did you see Brain Games on Nat Geo? It explained a lot in terms of how can these people not see what the republicans are all about??? These people being anyone who would vote for a republican who does not stand to gain but instead lose.
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EspritDeVoltaire
K Street PR firm board member
01:43 PM on 10/13/2011
Ryan's figures are dishonest at best. Why not throw in all sales taxes on goods and services as a raw percentage to raise it even more?