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Walmart Employees Take Case Of Company's 'Vicious Circle' To Wall St.

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First Posted: 10/12/11 04:36 PM ET Updated: 12/12/11 05:12 AM ET

As the largest private employer in the world, Walmart prides itself on the company's "Open Door" policy, which assures employees that they should feel free to share concerns and suggestions with management.

Some associates, however, say they have consistently been shut out by Walmart Chief Executive Mike Duke. Now they are turning efforts to air grievances toward Wall Street analysts, to make their argument that low-cost labor strategies are ultimately hurting Walmart.

On Tuesday, six current and former Walmart employees, along with John Marshall, a senior capital markets analyst for the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union, presented their explanation of Walmart's recent slump to 26 investors and analysts.

Walmart, the world's largest retailer, has suffered a two-year drop in U.S. sales, though the trend has already begun to lessen.

The presenters introduced a report, authored by Marshall and filled with testimony from employees, arguing that the company's cost-cutting approach to labor was dragging down U.S. sales and long-term revenue growth.

On Wednesday, outside investors and analysts visited Bentonville, Ark., where Walmart's corporate headquarters are located, to learn how the corporation plans to reverse its American sales slump. Walmart also announced Wednesday that it is seeing improvements at some U.S. stores for the first time in nine quarters.

The group of employees -- members of an association of workers called OUR Walmart, backed by UFCW -- attempted to meet with Duke last June to voice complaints about working conditions at the company. Duke declined to attend the meeting.

Although members of Our Walmart say they are not seeking union representation or a collective bargaining agreement, Walmart -- a company that has resisted decades of organizing attempts -- maintains that OUR Walmart is a Trojan horse for the UFCW.
But the workers insist that their grievances with the company are legitimate. They intend to try to meet with Duke again on Wednesday.

Around this time each year, Walmart executives huddle in Bentonville with the outside analysts and investors who research and describe the company's performance to the stock-holding public. The conversations at several days of meetings shape public perceptions of the company's successes and failures. This year, for the first time, Walmart employees injected themselves into the process by presenting their cause to the industry experts directly.

The report and testimonies focused on what the group characterizes as Walmart's "vicious circle:" as Walmart executives respond to slumping U.S. sales numbers, they cut labor costs, "setting in motion a 'vicious circle' of understaffing, operational miscues, and lost sales that is diminishing the company’s long-term value."

The company disputes this theory, and claims that understaffing is not a problem at stores, or the reason behind slumping U.S. sales.

"We have a laser focus on serving customers and our plan is working," Walmart spokesperson Steve Restivo wrote in an email. "This is nothing more than an attention-seeking stunt by a union organization attempting to further their own political and financial agenda."

OUR Walmart has doubled in size to over 2,000 workers, spread across the U.S., since launching last June. While unions have been attempting to organize Walmart for decades, labor historians view OUR Walmart as the most promising effort yet for affecting actual change at the retail goliath.

But so far the group has been primarily focused on gathering membership and community outreach. The presentation to market analysts represents a new strategy.

"The UFCW is hoping to demonstrate to economists and analysts that the traditional business model at Walmart has reached a dead end," said Nelson Licthenstein, labor historian at University of California, Santa Barbara, and author of "The Retail Revolution: How Wal-Mart Created a Brave New World of Business."

"If the analysts believe the model is not working and these big institutions begin to dump stock, maybe executives will have a meeting and say: maybe we'll reorient this thing," Lichtenstein added. "That would be beneficial to America."

But analysts at the presentation said they are not ready to dump stock any time soon.

"I didn't hear anything that made me believe the stock would go either way," said Jan Rogers Kniffen, the Chief Executive Officer of J. Rogers Kniffen, a New York-based equity research and financial management firm. "We've all heard the issues. It's not that they aren't legitimate, it's just that they aren't new."

Kniffen attributes Walmart's depressed U.S. sales to other aspects of the business, such as a failed store redesign several years ago and the depressed U.S. economy.

"Yes, it's better if your associates feel empowered. All things are better like that," Kniffen continued. "We all think we should be paid more. But would that significantly improve Walmart's performance? I'm not convinced that would be true."

Others said that while they did not intend to change their investment strategies, the presentation gave them something to mull over.

"There seem to be mutually confirming phenomena: Walmart is reducing core personnel costs and there is also a reduction in same store sales," said William Atwood, executive director of the Illinois State Board of Investment, which overseas the state's pension funds. "That doesn't necessarily mean that its a causal relationship; that's kind of the question."

Atwood said he intends to question Walmart executives about this over the course of the next several days of the meeting.

The presentation may already be changing the tenor of the proceedings, if ever so slightly, according to attendants.

One investor noted that an analyst at a Tuesday night dinner with Walmart executives raised the subject of the presentation with Walmart associates. The analyst asked if the company was concerned about renewed efforts to organize the workforce. Executive Vice President Leslie Dach answered that he was not concerned, and said that the workers presenting were a "couple of malcontents," the investor recalled Dach saying.

However, those at the presentation said they had a different impression.

"The people in the panel were pretty passionate," Kniffen said. "I thought these people would be very, very dissident, but it was very clear to me that the people on the panel really like Walmart. They're fairly enthusiastic and they're not happy about some of the things they've seen."

The Walmart employees, for their part, felt a measure of satisfaction from the presentation.

"Each person who doesn't really know how it works, the looks on some of the people's faces were kind of amazing," said Kenny James, one of the presenters and a former Walmart support manager from Renton, Washington.

James said he was at Walmart for over nine years, until he began to speak out on behalf of fellow workers, only to see his hours steadily docked until he could no longer support himself on his Walmart salary. He is now working as an OUR Walmart organizer, and like many members, is steeped in the difficult stories of Walmart employees, who typically earn wages associated with the poverty line.

"As soon as you think you've heard all of the stories, there is always another one," James said. "Sadder and sadder."

CORRECTION: A previous version of this article incorrectly referred to Walmart's Executive Vice President as Lesley Duke. His name is Leslie Dach.
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12:32 PM on 11/02/2011
I think the workers are right, but not for the reasons they presented. Workers who are treated like animals respond with poor performance. They don't care about their job, and take no pride in their work. Why should they, they're just another mistreated, interchangeable part of the Wallmart machine. Consequently, every time you go to shop at a Wallmart, you're literally surrounded by depression; there's nothing around you but unkept shelves and frowns. It inevitably rubs off on you, the shopper, leaving you feeling depressed about your shopping experience. Psychologists have already found a clear link between what people buy and where, and their self-image. Shopping at Wallmart leaves you feeling like a cheap, not smart, shopper.
04:30 PM on 10/16/2011
I think that Walmart's Executives are "out of touch" with the company's employees. I went in to Walmart last month for the first time in two years. I was there long enough to observe many of the workers. The employees looked like they were just going through the motions- whether they were stocking shelves or checking patrons at the registers. When I asked an employee for assistance, she appeared annoyed. No smiles and a lack of eagerness to help usually means the working environment is not pro-employee. I'm glad I don't own stock in Walmart- I would be embarrassed.
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gerorem
Linus v. Lucy
02:16 AM on 10/15/2011
Walmart and the other big box execs just never get it, because they never get out. Reducing salespersons reduces sales.
If workers are not happy, the customers won't be.
If they are not paid well, they can't shop their own store.
If all you seek is the bottom line, you lose it.
04:37 PM on 10/14/2011
Walmart Execs know very well the impact of reduced labor hours. If nothing else those guys are bean counters par excellence. Empty shelves, stock out and check out counter throughput stats among other negative indicators including customer complaints can all be correlated to labor hours.
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ultrawiz
Holding the Middle Ground
02:58 PM on 10/14/2011
Everyone should be striving to make Walmart sales go down 100%. People should be insisting on goods made in the USA when they shop. Walmart bringing in cheap goods from China is doing nothing to help put Americans back to work. Next time you wonder where all the jobs are, look at the label in your shirt or at what's parked in your garage.
12:20 AM on 10/16/2011
Manufacturing jobs are going abroad with or without Walmart.  Pining for those jobs back is to misunderstand the economic notion of comparative advantage.  Focus on the future not turning back the clock.
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Red45
We can turn the tide
01:35 PM on 10/14/2011
As long as we let the greedy call employee's suggestions and complaints "stunts", we can just watch America continue to slide down the toilet. Boycott WalMart.
01:02 PM on 10/14/2011
Hi..Has anyone read the statistics on big box retailers, who have gone out of business? There are more local, regional and national brick and mortar, big box retailers out of business in the past 30 years than we can count.
Along with the Internet, ROP advertising is now gone and the number of flyers you receive in your mailbox advertising ' specials or bargains' has just about declined to thousands in a neighborhood, instead of dropping millions, per week.
The face of shopping has changed. We have fewer and fewer leisure hours..we all work and commute..no time..so a big box retailer like Walmart gains favor because it is convenient..everything under one roof, presumably with competitive pricing, made possible by bulk manufacturing and an up to date marketing tag system that allows minute to minute inventory control. We, consumers flock there for convenience, competitive pricing, largely stocked shelving and quick check out. The consumer who had brand loyalty..wether to a product or
shopping facility, is gone..we are able to shop from home on the computer, we have only
ourselves as a community to blame. Why didn't we shop at the local yarn store? The
answer..maybe three more dollars per skein? Not necessarily..statistically the answer became ease of shopping. Why drive to 3 stores..grocery, hardware and soft lines? It's all under one roof at Walmart and the goods we are able to purchase are marginally close to acceptable..beats running to 10 other stores.
As for specific hard Iines and hardware..our movable society
07:12 PM on 10/13/2011
Walmart's revenues are down because the economy is down- and their customers are low-middle income people who's disposable income has dropped the most.  When the economy and the middle class rebound, Walmart will as well.  What they don't need are pressure tactics by unions who inflate salaries and pensions; reward poor performance by making it impossible to fire, and rewarding senior employees who do nothing while shunning merit based promotions.
03:34 PM on 10/13/2011
The only reason some analyst show any interest on "OUR Walmart" is because they want to gauge how serious the union threat is to Walmart. If they think the Union has even a remote chance of gaining traction they'll dump Walmart stock like a hot potato.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
03:27 PM on 10/13/2011
it is no doubt that sales suffer from lack of qualified workers at wal mart.....it is a task to buy something from the electronics department that requires a person to get it out.....like a camera. you could substitute lowes and home depot in the same category......if you need help with it, you are on your own.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
05:46 PM on 10/13/2011
Yes -- and that's because the wages and hours don't attract people who really know stuff. And people who know stuff just aren't appreciated by head office.

I've heard stories from people working for several different retailers about how a truly knowledgeable staffer, tech or even assistant manager will get edged out or made miserable enough to quit so the position could be filled by a lower-wage lackey. Some of these were staff members who should have been treasured because they brought people into the store, people who told their friends that soandso really knows what he or she is talking about or could work wonders with photofinishing, data retrieval or whatever.

And, as you point out, some departments are ridiculously understaffed. When people buy stuff like paint and insulation, computers and electronics, home appliances, etc., they often need assistance and/or advice. Yet there's only one staff member to run about fetching stuff, ringing up purchases, making up orders, answering the phone inquiries and so on.

They don't realize they are losing the customers who don't like their time being wasted in waiting or being frustrated by not getting any information on the products.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
06:11 PM on 10/13/2011
its their company though.....and yes they are losing customers....they should fix it or folks will go elsewhere. there are some fast food locations i wont eat at...they are horribly managed and take too long. popeyes where i live is terrible at one location and good at another....i walk with my feet to one but not the other. go to 10 different mcdonalds and you will see 10 different amounts of people....they manage to get some more efficient workers but never keep them....i think they should pay them a little more and shuck the mo ron s ......
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gysgt213
10:33 AM on 10/14/2011
And thats really all a person working any most depts at Walmart can do is get it out of the locked case for you. They ususally do not know anything about the item you wish to purchase other than in stock or out. Not only that but try buying a flat screen from Walmart. I will bet you that even though they have a lot of them on display none of them will actually be in stock.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
01:09 PM on 10/14/2011
that is a huge problem at walmart...they dont have any inventory...
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knewsreply
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02:13 PM on 10/13/2011
Anyone who has a friend that works for Wal-Mart knows that the management and employee relationship have deteriorated. These complaints will increase.
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littleblackcat
02:10 PM on 10/13/2011
WalMart is the biggest fraud in retail today and no, you can never find help when you need it.

Walmart has driven small fabric stores out of business and has now trimmed its fabric department to next to nothing, yarn also. One used to be able to find bargains if you had to manage on a tight budget. Not any more. As more and more small shops have been forced to close, WalMart's prices have gone up and up.

I worked for a while at Sears and was told by a customer that he could get the "very same vacuum cleaner at WalMart for a LOT less." I told him he couldn't and dared him to check. I knew every style and make of vacuum they carried and only ONE style was exactly the same as what Sears had. (And it was more!) I never thought to see or hear from the individual again but about two weeks later that man returned, looked me up and apologized. "I did check and you were right. The only one that is exactly the same is thirty dollars more than what you charge."

WalMart's low prices were reality when Sam Walton was alive, as was his determination to sell only "Made in the USA". That aim died with him and only the hype lives on. People THINK they are getting low prices when in fact they are no less than most other stores.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
05:49 PM on 10/13/2011
Well said. And a lot of stuff is crap that will nickel and dime the customers out of more than they think. A $20 leather belt that snaps in two months will cost you more than a $50 belt from a quality menswear store that lasts a full year or more.
07:14 PM on 10/13/2011
Most of Walmart's prices ARE lower than Sears or Target.  There may be exceptions of course.
11:07 AM on 10/14/2011
Paying 49.97 vs 49.99 isn't worth the hassle.
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loki
Better to die fighting, than live on knees
01:33 PM on 10/13/2011
love those official on paper " Open Door Policies" that many companies have. Then they lock the door to the executives, or put them thousands of miles form the employees so they cant get to them. But, if something happens and there is a law suit, the corporations can point to their "open door policy" on paper as a defence.
12:02 PM on 10/13/2011
Walmart depends on supply lines thousands of miles long. Walmart is also the product of the Interstates.

Yet our infrastructure, including our interstates, is falling apart. The extreme weather patterns caused by global climate change will wreak additional havoc on our infrastructure. Gasoline prices will continue to rise, partially because fracking and the Keystone pipe line rely on massive convoys of trucks, which use fossil fuel, and these convoys are also dependent on our infrastructure

In spite of these realities, Walmart gives generous campaign contributions to the GOP and to the Tea Party who oppose Obama's Jobs Now Act and who deny that global warming exists. In short, WalMart is destroying its own existence.

As a nickel and dime investor, I would not invest in WalMart. Yeah, you might have money-making opportunities in making money from Walmart stocks if play the day-trade game and have insider connections. But for the long term, WalMart has a murky future. Avoid investing in WalMart.
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VictoryBlue
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04:17 PM on 10/13/2011
Just avoid Wal-Mart all together.
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lifetimestudent
Cosmic Possum
11:52 AM on 10/13/2011
I don't shop at Walmart and gave up my membership to Sam's Club for the same reasons. I got tired of poorly stocked, disorganized shelves and no one to ask for help. On the rare occasion that I could find an employee without going all the way to the front of the store, they seemed to know very little about the store or the merchandise. Cutting labor does improve the bottom line, but if a company continues to use that tactic they will eventually reach the point where customers' dissatisfaction with poor service will trump the desire to save a few pennies.