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Why 'Ideal Worker' Women's Careers Fall Behind Men's: Catalyst Study

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First Posted: 10/14/11 10:03 AM ET Updated: 12/13/11 05:12 AM ET

Dear women trying to get ahead in the workplace and blaming yourself for not advancing: It's not you, it's them.

A new study from the nonprofit group Catalyst surveyed over 3,000 MBA graduates and found that even when women employed the strategies of the so-called "ideal worker" -- requesting high-profile assignments, hob-knobbing with the bosses, and clearly communicating their goals -- they still didn't see the same career advancement men did, and their salaries increased at a slower rate.

Researchers identified nine tactics that employees are taught will help them get ahead but found that, for women, only one resulted in an increase in pay. When women made their achievements known (by making sure their managers were aware of their accomplishments and asking for promotions) they saw a salary increase. But the rest of the tools that are supposed to mean making your way up another rung on the corporate ladder? They didn't make any difference.

So is moving to a different company a better option? Again, only for the guys. Women didn't fare nearly as well financially as the men when they changed jobs. Men at their second post-MBA employer earned $13,000 more in their new job, but the women who made a switch saw no change. The study found women were better off staying put, "where they had already proven their worth."

In addition to that news (which you may, understandably, have mixed feelings about), the study claims to debunk a few commonly held beliefs about why exactly women are paid less.

One of those myths is that women choose slower career tracks. Instead, Catalyst found that even among the among the employees most proactive about their careers, only 71 percent of women were content with their rate of promotion, compared to 82 percent of men. The authors pointed to the women's lack of satisfaction as evidence that the women want to get ahead but face external impediments. In other words, it's not you, it's them.

The study also called into question the idea that the gender pay gap is in part women's fault. Previous research has indicated that women are less likely to ask for a raise, hence they're less likely to get one. Last February, NPR reported that men are four times as likely to ask for a raise than women. According to Linda Babcock, the economist interviewed on the subject, women have good reason to be sheepish about asking for more money: When they read the exact same negotiation script as a man, observers reported that the man deserved a raise. The women were thought to deserve one too, but were evaluated as aggressive and liked less.

But the Catalyst study found that there's little discrepancy between the genders in their request for raises. 47 percent of women reported asking for a higher salary during the hiring process, only slightly behind the 52 percent of men who did. The gap was even smaller when it came to job title: 14 percent of women and 15 percent of men said they had asked for a position at a higher job level.

What do you think about these findings? Have they proven true in your career?

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10:29 PM on 10/16/2011
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09:09 PM on 10/15/2011
"the authors pointed to the women's lack of satisfaction as evidence that the women want to get ahead but face external impediments. In other words, it's not you, it's them."

The gap between men and women 71% vs 82% being satisfied with career advancement is pretty small. It's easier to conclude the gap is due to women feeling like a victims rather than actual victimization. Such a small gap is more easily explained by internal factors like being told you are a victim from birth until present day. This article also assumes they are victims stating "Dear women trying to get ahead in the workplace and blaming yourself for not advancing: It's not you, it's them." Well if you are telling women it's them but men are told it's themselves no wonder the men are happier with their achievements.
01:40 PM on 10/15/2011
Being a woman still stinks. I hate being female because it's blocked me from getting the things I wanted and made me vulnerable to getting the things I found intolerable--in particular boring womenwork. If I were taller I would have had a sex change operation, but I'm too short to pass as male. I hate, hate, hate being a woman. And that is perfectly rational. Being a woman sucks.
07:20 AM on 10/15/2011
A look through the list of the 100 most powerful women is awe inspiring: the incredible successes, top jobs, huge responsibilities, background, etc.

There is no glass ceiling. There are too many women who have been incredibly successful.

When we are not moving forward as we would like, we do, indeed, have to ask ourselves what we are doing wrong. It could be any one of a number of things that in my long career I have witnessed: wrong career, no passion about the job, family taking precedence, not willing to put in the necessary hours (married women in the office in the early hours of the morning is an exception, but lots of men), pressure of balancing family and work, not willing to delegate responsibility for children to a 24/7 nanny, playing second fiddle to a husband, inability to stay detached (seen women cry in the board room, never men), personalizing issues, sweating the small stuff, gossiping (men don't like to engage in negative gossiping, with its serious damage), micromanagement -- big time, not as good as men at branding themselves and staying true to their core and life goals -- could go on.

This post won't make me popular, but it is the truth. Leaders understand that we are completely responsible for our circumstances, as a result of our decisions or how we have responded to decisions of others. Women need to understand that too.
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01:54 AM on 10/15/2011
In federal agencies where politics is the game in hiring, career development, promotion. performance appraisal, and salary increase - it is "them" not me, absolutely.
01:48 AM on 10/15/2011
If our boss was any kind of boss he/she would know what kind of job you are doing. You shouldn't have to keep a diary of your achievements. Those bosses should be fired as they may be overlooking a great asset to the company.
07:29 AM on 10/15/2011
I think perhaps the better, but more difficult answer (although discredited in this article) is to leave. Realistically management is usually not about to leave. If it doesn't appreciate great work now, it never will.

The default in most companies is for management not to acknowledge achievements sufficiently for any number of factors: indifference, fear of competition, unhealthy tier structures, not allowing employees their own personalities, discounting input from the lower levels, etc.

Men are better at going after the job they want; women are more likely to settle for the first available position.
05:38 PM on 10/16/2011
Evidence?
12:57 AM on 10/15/2011
C'mon... from the article: "The authors pointed to the women's lack of satisfaction as evidence that the women want to get ahead but face external impediments." So their LACK OF SATISFACTION is the evidence of discrimination??? This is a joke article, right? ' Cause it's sure joke "science".
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09:24 PM on 10/14/2011
I was a manager for a large company and was required to have at least several women managers on the staff! We treated them with respect and some were paid more than some males just so that it could not be said that we paid the women less! Their subordinates respected these female managers, but everyone knew not to expect too much from them! What a penalty we had to pay just to call it equality! Most of these women changed more husbands than a movie star. One female manager had 3 in about 10 years, one of which was her subordinate, you can imagine how well that worked!
GOODDOC1
"civil war" is an oxymoron
04:25 AM on 10/15/2011
And how many men changed husbands?
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chiara0
The sleep of reason produces monsters.
11:51 AM on 10/16/2011
Sounds like you didn't hire quality folks. Had nothing to do with their gender. Great people come in all kinds of packages.
08:52 PM on 10/14/2011
My earliest jobs were hard won. I had a non-traditional degree at a time when women were expected to become nurses, teachers, secretaries and waitresses. I quit my first jobs because raises were non existent. I actually had one boss pat me on the head and say, "It's okay, honey, some man will marry you and take you away from all this." How condescending! But the times assumed that one would work as an office helper to a man and then quit to get married.

How sad to see that, fifty years or more later, nothing has really changed. After all, women don't get a discount on their school loans or a break in tuition; they pay exactly what men do. They perform the same job. Why SHOULDN'T they get the same promotional considerations and rates of pay?
07:34 AM on 10/15/2011
See my post above, but more importantly take a look at the list of 100 most powerful women (think it's Forbes' list). After you have read that list, I believe you will change your mind about nothing having changed.

A great deal has changed.
08:49 AM on 10/15/2011
100 powerful women. Out of roughly half the US population.

It's a nice start. But how many women still struggle or never make it that far, as compared to men? That's what the article is about and what I was responding to.
09:17 PM on 10/15/2011
Women make different choices and end up in different places, that's not discrimination. If men and women are so equal then why are their twice as many earning degrees today? I suppose you want to conclude that is due to discrimination? Not every difference between the sex's can be blamed on sexism that is far too simplistic. We still have to keep in mind men and women are really different and we are predisposed towards different roles.
05:43 PM on 10/16/2011
Predispose­d towards different roles? Due to nature or nurture? I'm pretty sure I know which one you think, so please provide evidence if you want to be taken seriously.
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08:12 PM on 10/14/2011
women are usually loud mouthed trouble making instigators typically, thanks eve for ruinig it for everyone.
08:56 PM on 10/14/2011
Actually, Eve did NOT ruin it for everyone. Adam didn't have to acquiesce. He could have said,
"No." And did he take moral responsibility as head of his household? No, he passed the buck to his spouse, "The woman gave to me and I ate." She then took her cue from her hubby and passed it on to the snake. Adam and Eve were banished from Eden for daring to acquire knowledge. All the snake got was removal of his legs.
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06:51 PM on 10/14/2011
The drumbeat to emulate men, copy men, match men and become men in the name of advancement is continued here. It has become the only goal in life for most women.
07:43 AM on 10/15/2011
How about starting a company with different "female" principles (working from home etc.), "female" financial results (no late nights to close the deal, etc.) See how well it goes. I'm not saying for a second that many conventional wisdoms aren't in line for paradigm shifts, but I am saying that many of the norms of business are tried and true. They are entrenched for a reason. Men have entrenched them. If women want to be as successful, they will have to follow those success principles.
06:19 PM on 10/14/2011
If there's a study anywhere out there (no matter who conducted it or how it was conducted) showing that women, compared to men, are discriminated against, HuffPost will find it and publish it. Catalyst is a feminist organization deeply committed to specially promoting the interests of women. In light of that reality, this "study" is not very surprising.
11:52 PM on 10/14/2011
Let me know if the Mason's or any other male organization or group of people have decided to do a similar study.
02:49 PM on 10/14/2011
I returned to the job after maternity leave and started seeing a mentor in another section of the company. Turns out she had returned from maternity leave a few months before me, so we ended up focusing most of our sessions on dealing with being a working mom. At our last session, she said, "Okay, here's the best career advice I can give you. Get a piece of paper and write this down. Get a hold of the list of things that the person at the "next" level in your position should be doing. Now go through that list and write down all the things you are doing are have done to show you are already operating at that level. Now don't tell anyone on your team you are doing this or else they will do it. Then give this list to your manager a few months before review and promotion time, and tell them this is why you deserve a promotion to the next level." It worked. And I pass this advice now to both men and women. You have to demonstrate that you are already operated at the level you want to be promoted to, but you also have to tell your boss what you are expecting so that they can be your advocate.
07:52 AM on 10/15/2011
You were lucky. There is a serious flaw in that advice. Never hold people up for what they should be doing. Stick to what you should be doing. It's not about them; it's about you. If one has to point out another person's failings, ethically it should be done with that person in the room.

There is an underlying flaw in the advice as well: one of competition, rather than co-operation, in the workplace.

But, by all means, demonstrate what you can do for the company; not what the company can do for you.
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02:43 PM on 10/14/2011
Stripping is an alternate choice for todays women - it offers them daily cash pay outs and a flexible work schedule. Men like it. Its lucrative and you can do it in any city. More women should become strippers.