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AP/The Huffington Post   VERENA DOBNIK First Posted: 10/17/11 12:33 AM ET Updated: 11/07/11 03:40 PM ET

By VERENA DOBNIK, The Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Occupy Wall Street movement has close to $300,000, as well as storage space loaded with donated supplies in lower Manhattan. It stared down city officials to hang on to its makeshift headquarters, showed its muscle Saturday with a big Times Square demonstration and found legions of activists demonstrating in solidarity across the country and around the world.

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Could this be the peak for loosely organized protesters, united less by a common cause than by revulsion to what they consider unbridled corporate greed? Or are they just getting started?

There are signs of confidence, but also signs of tension among the demonstrators at Zuccotti Park, the epicenter of the movement that began a month ago Monday. They have trouble agreeing on things like whether someone can bring in a sleeping bag, and show little sign of uniting on any policy issues. Some protesters eventually want the movement to rally around a goal, while others insist that isn't the point.

"We're moving fast, without a hierarchical structure and lots of gears turning," said Justin Strekal, a college student and political organizer who traveled from Cleveland to New York to help. "... Egos are clashing, but this is participatory democracy in a little park."

Even if the protesters were barred from camping in Zuccotti Park, as the property owner and the city briefly threatened to do last week, the movement would continue, Strekal said. He said activists were working with legal experts to identify alternate sites where the risk of getting kicked out would be relatively low.

Wall Street protesters are intent on hanging on to the momentum they gained from Saturday's worldwide demonstrations, which drew hundreds of thousands of people, mostly in the U.S. and Europe. They're filling a cavernous space on Broadway a block from Wall Street with donated goods to help sustain their nearly month-long occupation of the private park nearby.

They've amassed mounds of blankets, pillows, sleeping bags, cans of food, medical and hygienic supplies - even oddities like a box of knitting wool and 20 pairs of swimming goggles (to shield protesters from pepper-spray attacks). Supporters are shipping about 300 boxes a day, Strekal said.

The space was donated by the United Federation of Teachers, which has offices in the building.

Close to $300,000 in cash also has been donated, through the movement's website and by people who give money in person at the park, said Bill Dobbs, a press liaison for Occupy Wall Street. The movement has an account at Amalgamated Bank, which bills itself as "the only 100 percent union-owned bank in the United States."

Strekal said the donated goods are being stored "for a long-term occupation."

"We are unstoppable! Another world is possible!" Kara Segal and other volunteers chanted in the building lobby as they arrived to help unpack and sort items, preparing them to be rolled out to the park.

While on the streets, moments of madness occasionally erupt in the protest crowd - accompanied by whiffs of marijuana, grungy clothing and disarray - order prevails at the storage site.

It doubles as a sort of Occupy Wall Street central command post, with strategic meetings that are separate from the "general assembly" free-for-alls in the park. One subject Sunday was data entry: protesters are working to get the names and addresses of donors into a databank, to thank them for their gifts.

The movement has become an issue in the Republican presidential primary race and beyond, with politicians from both parties under pressure to weigh in.

President Barack Obama referred to the protests at Sunday's dedication of a monument for Martin Luther King Jr., saying the civil rights leader "would want us to challenge the excesses of Wall Street without demonizing those who work there."

Many of the largest of Saturday's protests were in Europe, where those involved in long-running demonstrations against austerity measures declared common cause with the Occupy Wall Street movement. In Rome, hundreds of rioters infiltrated a march by tens of thousands of demonstrators, causing what the mayor estimated was at least euro1 million ($1.4 million) in damage to city property.

U.S. cities large and small were "occupied" over the weekend: Washington, D.C., Fairbanks, Alaska, Burlington, Vt., Rapid City, S.D., and Cheyenne, Wyo. were just a few. In Cincinnati, protesters moved their demonstration out of a park after hearing that a couple was getting their wedding photos taken there - but the bride and groom ended up seeking them out for pictures.

More than 70 New York protesters were arrested Saturday, more than 40 of them in Times Square. About 175 people were arrested in Chicago after they refused to leave a park where they were camped late Saturday, and there were about 100 arrests in Arizona - 53 in Tucson and 46 in Phoenix - after protesters refused police orders to disperse. About two dozen people were arrested in Denver, and in Sacramento, Calif., anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was among about 20 people arrested after failing to follow police orders to disperse.

Activists around the country said they felt that Saturday's protests energized their movement.

"It's an upward trajectory," said John St. Lawrence, a Florida real estate lawyer who took part in Saturday's Occupy Orlando protest, which drew more than 1,500 people. "It's catching people's imagination and also, knock on wood, nothing sort of negative or discrediting has happened."

St. Lawrence is among those unconcerned that the movement has not rallied around any particular proposal, saying "policy is for leaders to come up with."

"I don't think the underlying theme is a mystery," he said. "We saw what the banks and financial institutions did to the economy. We bailed them out. And then they went about evicting people from their homes," he said. He added that although he is not in debt and owns his own home, other people in his neighborhood are suffering and "everyone's interests are interconnected."

In Richmond, Va., about 75 people gathered Sunday for one of the "general assembly" meetings that are a key part of the movement's consensus-building process. Protester Whitney Whiting, a video editor, said the process has helped "gather voices" about Americans discontent, and that she expects it will eventually take the movement a step further.

"In regards to a singular issue or a singular focus, I think that will come eventually. But right now we have to set up a space for that to happen," Whiting said.

Some U.S. protesters, like those in Europe, have their own causes. Unions that have joined forces with the movement have demands of their own, and on Sunday members of the newly formed Occupy Pittsburgh group demanded that Bank of New York Mellon Corp. pay back money they allege it overcharged public pension funds around the country.

New York's attorney general and New York City sued BNY Mellon this month, accusing it of defrauding clients in foreign currency exchange transactions that generated nearly $2 billion over 10 years. The company has vowed to fight the lawsuit and had no comment about the protesters' allegation about pensions.

Lisa Deaton, a tea party leader from southern Indiana, said she sees some similarities between how the tea party movement and the Wall Street protests began: "We got up and we wanted to vent."

But the critical step, she said, was taking that emotion and focusing it toward changing government.

The first rally she organized drew more than 2,500 people, but afterward, "it was like, `What do we do?'" she said. "You can't have a concert every weekend."

The Wall Street protesters' lack of leadership and focus on consensus-building has help bring together people with different perspectives, but it's also created some tension.

"Issues are arising - like who is bringing in sleeping bags without permission," said Laurie Dobson, who's been helping a self-governed "working group" called "SIS" - for Shipping, Inventory and Supplies.

Sleeping bags were among items cited by Zuccotti Park's owner, Brookfield Properties, as not allowed on the premises - along with tents, tarps and other essentials for the encampment. By Sunday, all those items were back.

Strekal didn't see that as a problem. Protesters could do it, he said, "because we're winning the PR war."

Around his neck hangs a tiny silver Liberty Bell - a symbol of American independence given to him by a fellow activist.

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Associated Press writers Suzette Laboy in Miami, Steve Szkotak in Richmond, Va., Kevin Begos in Pittsburgh, Laurie Kellman and Stacy A. Anderson in Washington, Tom LoBianco in Indianapolis, Sophia Tareen and Carla K. Johnson in Chicago contributed to this report.


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Via HuffPost Miami:

When an Occupy Miami member offered evicted protestors vacant apartments in a building he owns in Downtown Miami's Overtown neighborhood, it seemed like the perfect solution: the 'Peace City' space would provide headquarters for the movement and shelter a small faction of the group's most vulnerable members. But it hasn't gone well. Other tenants say the building has become a cesspool of drug use and violence while non-resident Occupy Miami members are trying to distance themselves from the 'radicals' -- all while the two factions are wrestling for control over Occupy Miami's social media sites and future plans.

From the Miami New Times:

The feud between the Overtown occupiers and more mainstream members has only gotten worse. The two factions are now battling for control of Occupy Miami's social media sites. The movement's main Twitter account recently announced it had been "hijacked by a small, non-consensus group of radical members." The Occupy Miami Facebook page was also temporarily hacked by someone inside Peace City. Meanwhile, the Overtown occupation is slowly driving away more moderate members.

"This is a black eye on the Occupy movement," says Shannon Reaze, an Overtown community organizer and Occupy Miami supporter who is now helping tenants move out of Paz's building. "The violence and drugs going on here are way outside of what I thought Occupy stood for. This place is destabilized."

...The supposedly hard-core activists here spend their days drinking and getting high. And as Peace City devolves into lawlessness, the most committed occupiers are leaving. Local landowners and politicians want the place shut down, while cops are suspicious. Yet as long as Paz wants the protesters around, nothing short of a demolition order can keep them out.

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Via HuffPost DC:

WASHINGTON -- Occupy DC has a new lawsuit involving tents on its hands. But it doesn't involve temporary structures in McPherson Square.

Two protesters arrested during a February action outside Merrill Lynch's offices on 15th Street NW near McPherson Square have filed suit against the Metropolitan Police Department, Legal Times reports. (Read the complaint here.)

The plaintiffs, Samuel Dukore and Kelly Canavan, were part of a "targeted occupation" of Merrill Lynch on Feb. 13 where protesters were raising awareness about Merrill Lynch's reportedly close ties with Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.). Issa, for his part, claims that the reports of these close ties are "wildly inaccurate."

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OWS reports via its website:

After the brutal attack on the attempted re-occupation of Liberty Square by NYPD on the 6-month anniversary of #OWS, a number of Occupiers have relocated their base of occupation to Union Square in midtown Manhattan, a point of convergence for several #OWS protests over the past 6 months.

According to reports on the ground, several dozen people slept in the park after the illegal and violent raid on Liberty Square. Over 70 people remain, now on Day 3. Although tents and tables are still banned, Occupiers have brought blankets and sleeping gear. Many are calling it ¨the new Occupation.¨ In addition to holding General Assemblies, Union Square Occupiers are providing vital jail support for those arrested on #M17 as they are released from NYPD custody. So far, the NYPD has made no attempt to remove Occupiers or prevent them from sleeping in the park.

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Occupy Long Beach is defending the mother's home. For more information, click here.

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The woman had the apparent seizure has been identified by the New York Observer as Cecily McMillan:

Cecily McMillan, an Occupy Wall Street activist once profiled in Rolling Stone, suffered a seizure Saturday night during protest action near Zuccotti Park. Many on-scene reported Ms. McMillan had trouble breathing after she was tackled and handcuffed by law enforcement.

A video uploaded to Youtube late Saturday night purports to show the attack. Two women can be heard commenting, “There’s Cecily,” then there is confusion as the police clearly perform a violent take-down on someone in the crowd.

According to Jeff Sharlet’s November, 2011 article about the Occupy Movement, this may be Ms. McMillan’s second violent encounter with police.

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Cops caught on video about 10 seconds in taking down the woman who had the apparent seizure:

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Watch video from inside Zuccotti Park as police moved in late last night:

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The paper reports from last night's chaos at Zuccotti Park:

At one point, a woman who appeared to be suffering from seizures flopped on the ground in handcuffs as bystanders shouted for the police to remove the cuffs and provide medical attention. For several minutes the woman lay on the ground as onlookers made increasingly agonized demands until an ambulance arrived and the woman was placed inside.

By 12:20 a.m., a line of officers pushed against some of the remaining protesters, forcing them south on Broadway, at times swinging batons and shoving people to the ground.

Kobi Skolnick, 30, said that officers pushed him in several directions and that as he tried to walk away, he was struck from behind in the neck. “One of the police ran and hit me with a baton,” he said.

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@ Greg_Palast : Our photographer ZD Roberts beaten @OWS Zucotti Park by cops. Thrown to ground, hair grabbd, hit with clubs while yelling, I'M PRESS PRESS!

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@ macfathom : Doubling east on Barclay, and now the ragged front of the march is at City Hall. #OWS

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@ LuddoftheFuture : girl in the street having a seizure and the cops have her in handcuffs. can this get any worse (live at http://t.co/4pLyy3gP)

Activists cry out for paramedics. The woman is limp on the ground. "Come on you violent bastards where's the paramedics?"

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@ jeffrae : March is heading north up broadway #ows #occupywallstreet

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@ macfathom : Dozens of arrests, many cuffed and sitting on broadway waiting for their ride to jail. #OWS

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@ RDevro : Police are barricading the park. It's cleared. I witnessed countless violent arrests. No way to estimate numbers.

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@ troutish : Protesters being dragged out by the head at #OWS #Zucotti Park http://t.co/qomhKkrA

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Cops pulling apart human chains. There are shouts for mic checks. Now, chants start forming. "The NYPD are sweeping through," says Tim on the live stream.

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@ ANIMALNewYork : Police are moving in. It's chaos.

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@ ANIMALNewYork : NYPD just made an announcement that Brookfield has to "clean the park" and Liberty Plaza is officially "closed."

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@ OccupyWallStNYC : Bagpipers just started marching into the park bringing the party mood with them, NYPD arrested one of them, and things got real heated. #OWS

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@ JackieHRye : NYPD just "destroyed" the tent in Zuccotti Park, Occupiers call for its re-building. Marching band also going through the park. #OWS

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@ RDevro : The tent in the middle of the park continues to fill with people planning to stay the night. Lots of energy here.

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Activists ask for more room as the tent is growing, expanding.

"It looks like a floating tent." -- as Tim on his live stream.

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@ OccupyWallStNYC : .@justawall is leading us in a song! "Hit the road, banks! And don't ya come back no more no more no more no more!" #OWS

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Activists have assembled make-shift, cardboard sleeping areas inside Zuccotti Park. The cardboard is joined by a large green tarp.

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@ RDevro : A tarp is going up in Zuccotti as protesters march around the park chant-dancing. #m17 http://t.co/rJfP3GF9

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By VERENA DOBNIK, The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- The Occupy Wall Street movement has close to $300,000, as well as storage space loaded with donated supplies in lower Manhattan. It stared do...
By VERENA DOBNIK, The Associated Press NEW YORK (AP) -- The Occupy Wall Street movement has close to $300,000, as well as storage space loaded with donated supplies in lower Manhattan. It stared do...
 
 
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SocialistDistortion 09:04 AM on 10/17/2011
johnnyboy45 wrote: "OWS, what a joke!!" ----------------------------------------- The bittterness of the GOT-Pers is so thick I can taste it all the way here in Chicago. You're just pouting over the fact that OWS has now ignited a worldwide protest, while the TP is no longer the flavor of the month and continues to fade further and further into obscurity. The ultra-right wing revolution you all were so sure  Read More...
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Obama's loss is Americas win
07:48 PM on 10/19/2011
The OWS crowd reminds me of and old Cher song....................Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves
04:05 AM on 10/19/2011
Let's take a poll to decide on a good monthly TAKE HOME income for each & every person over 18 in the US. Averages must reflect each state's and/or city's unique "standard of living" expenses. (ie job in one state pays $8/hr & pays $15/hr in another state for same job - YET - average rent for $15 state might be $1500/mo and $900/mo in the $8 state). Here's the challenge:

1. Determine median monthly TAKE HOME income > adequate for 1 individual adult to COMFORTABLY live on --- single american with no children.

2. If possible, list all expenses by name & amount so readers see how you arrived at the figure.

3. Decide approx AGGREGATE amount to EXQUISITELY raise 1 child from conception to age 21.

4. If possible, itemize expenses by name & amount so readers see how you arrived at estimate.
04:04 AM on 10/19/2011
5. Take average of all submitted proposed thus arriving at 2 basic figures:
a) Monthly cost to keep one american adult comfortable
b) Divide aggregate sum to arrive at an average flat monthly cost to raise one american child.

6. Form 100% evenly dispersing profit-sharing entity owned equally & exclusively by all members of entity. No limit on how many members may join the entity. Entity official designation - TBA.

7. Mission statement: To ensure each & every member of the entity receives enough income, resources, goods and/or services - all or in part - to meet or exceed estimated COMFORTABLE monthly income AND meet or exceed appropriated aggregate monthly amount to EXQUISITELY raise each & every child. Each year members may update personal needs, wants & any changes in ability to personally contribute to others financially, in goods, and/or in services. Businesses, corporations or other entities are welcome to join and contribute financial, goods, services, employment or other opportunities in return for promotional considerations and the opportunity to submit their own "wish list".
07:19 AM on 10/19/2011
What a great idea, obama would love it.
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Obama's loss is Americas win
07:45 PM on 10/19/2011
Socialism. No thanks.
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Carolab
Walking an 87-year-old in the sand isn't easy
09:57 PM on 10/18/2011
Update:  CBS reporting they now have $435K.
09:57 PM on 10/18/2011
Occupy Wall Street needs money and a direction. WE the People (WE Party) can help!

Occupy Wall Street turns to the A United World Social Network (WE Party) for help to create change without protesting.

WE THE PEOPLE want to see a shift in consciousness from I to WE - www.weparty.info

WE THE PEOPLE appeals to 100% of the people. At WE PARTIES WE are making a difference at www.weparties.info and not getting arrested.

"Learning your purpose is your energy source to promote kindness and pass your love forward" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... -

The WE Party Mentors say "WE can make a difference" - "Yes WE can" - United WE stand" - "WE can be the change WE wish to see in the world" - "In God WE trust" - "WE the people" - "WE are the world" - I'm proud to be an AmerWEcan" - "WE are family" - "WE believe" - "WE need a media in this country that covers grassroots movements" - WE shall not be moved" - "All WE want is equity" - "WE are the 99%"

WE created three petitions for WE Party Peace Ambassadors to sign.

1) Pass It Forward (http://www.change.org/petition...
2) World Peace Petition (http://www.change.org/petition...
3) Six Pillars of Character (http://www.change.org/petition...

It'll just take a minute!Once you're done, please ask your friends to sign the petition as well.

Grassroots movements succeed because people like you are willing to spread the word!
05:06 PM on 10/19/2011
Don't forget the WE t-shirts for only $24.99 plus s&h. WE can get rich selling those.
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09:37 PM on 10/18/2011
I donated to this cause and think it's awesome. Makes me feel better that people of reason have a loud voice than not.
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Carolab
Walking an 87-year-old in the sand isn't easy
09:35 PM on 10/18/2011
Speaking of absurd laws, Bloomberg used a law banning tents for protesters on Federal land to say tents are not part of "free speech" today.

And in Minnesota the county commissioners said no tents, but had no specific law to cite.  The Sheriff removed the tents, yet the only ordinance I can find re:  tents is a CITY ordinance.
07:20 PM on 10/18/2011
FYI --

THE US GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT LAST YEAR WAS MORE THAN $14,000,000,000,000.
Yes, folks, our country ANNUALLY earns over $14 TRILLION.
OUR US NATIONAL DEBT IS JUST OVER $14 TRILLION !!!!
Guess what --- we CAN'T cut our budget because the reality is that:
IT COST $14 TRILLION TO RUN THIS COUNTRY AS IT IS NOW (and even NOW we're IN NEED).

what gives?
07:11 PM on 10/18/2011
ALSO ... gather a PERPETUAL Occupy Wall Street "Wish List" defining both needs and wants.
ALSO ... gather a PERPETUAL Occupy Wall Street PROPOSED LIST OF SOLUTIONS.
ALSO ... get a hold of the latest OFFICIAL BUDGET and listings of US State and Federal EXPENSES & REVENUES. Then --- each one of us (individuals or groups) try to balance it --- then submit your proposal(s) to the Super Committee -- and save some copies for yourself !
07:11 PM on 10/18/2011
2. Why aren't the Occupy Wall Street protesters more organized than the Tea Party?

OBVIOUSLY, Tea Party members are wealthier and/or have more resources. They also are SUBSTANTIALLY fewer in number. Hmmm... NUMBERS? Ha, Ha, by GEORGE I've got it !!
WE, THE PEOPLE, will OVERCOME by OUR SHEER STRENGTH IN NUMBERS !! So, WE'VE GOT SOME HOMEWORK ! At our rallies, make sure EACH & EVERY PARTICIPANT gets a lesson on how the US Government is structured, how legislation can be made, changed or deleted, where, when & how to vote (use playacting to teach this), make sure everyone has a voting ID, list and define the issues and the candidates, instruct on how to recall elected officials AND what the definition of recall is, instruct on how to nominate candidates and how to initiate grass-root movements in their community. EVERYONE CALL, EMAIL OR WRITE TO BOTH THEIR SENATORS AND CONGRESSMAN --- BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL !! OK, you guys... GO FORTH AND TEEEEEEEEEEEACH ! :)
08:21 PM on 10/18/2011
The tea party movement is not a party and there are no memberships. I have no idea where you got the number of members from. According to Gallup 28% of Americans support the Tea Party Movement in 2010 and that number has grown in 2011, how many OWS are there? Tea Party members are more organized because they are educated people with families that have to be organized in their jobs and lives in order to be successful. They believe in the contributions of the individual and all try to contribute. In other words, they are the types of people that do for themselves.
09:29 PM on 10/18/2011
According to a Fox news poll, 65% of americans support OWS. This was after three weeks of the occupation. The tea party has existed for years. To compare the level of organization of the two entities (or non-entities) is totally ridiculous. Also, most of the Tea Party's organizational backbone comes from the billionaire backers who hijacked the movement. To claim that in general the Tea Party people are more educated than the OWS people is even more ridiculous! OWS is all about taking individual responsibility and looking for a way of exercising that responsibility in the public sphere. This is just the beginning people.
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09:45 PM on 10/18/2011
What makes you think Tea Partiers are more educated? I went to MIT and many of my friends from college support OWS.
07:29 AM on 10/19/2011
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12 hours ago (7:11 PM) 2. Why aren't the Occupy Wall Street protesters more organized than the Tea Party?


Because the Tea party members are SMARTER. Thats obvious from listening to the ows people. Wow talk about clueless.
07:03 PM on 10/18/2011
Hi everybody! I humbly submit to you, oh fellow peoples, my humble posits to aforementioned questions concerning the Occupy Wall Street Movement:

Popular Question #1
What are the Occupy Wall Street protesters protesting about?

A better question, I think, is ... who's idea was this?? IT'S BRILLIANT !! At our core, we are all FEELING angry, scared, sad, fearful, helpless, hopeless, powerless, voiceless, hungry, thirsty, homeless, leaderless, unrepresented, misunderstood, frustrated, ignored, poverty-stricken, collectively & individually endangered, under-utilized, over-qualified, condescended to, under paid, collectively thwarted, collectively & individually ripped off, cheated, lied to, over-worked, under-appreciated, devalued, dehumanized, demoralized, degraded, spat upon, summarily dismissed, ignored, pummelled, and .... [PLEASE INSERT YOUR FEELINGS IN RESPONSE]

We are protesting about MANY issues on a myriad of topics too complex to articulate, too many to list and too urgent to ignore anymore. WE, THE PEOPLE, are assembling together in cities around the country to give something to each other that certain well-known narcissistic power mongers forgot about ... our innate ability and strength as WE, THE PEOPLE to form a perfect union in SOLIDARITY. I am thrilled to finally see that I am not alone in my feelings. This gives me courage & strength enough now to move into ACTION !!! MAY WE ALL CONTINUE IN PEACE!
08:30 PM on 10/18/2011
What are you protesting about is a good and valid question. I have read article after article and watched/listened to several news shows. The writers/reporters tell me the protests are about holding Wall street accountable for their crimes and I am all for that but the protesters never voice that cause. I have heard anti-government sentiments, anti-military, anti-profit, anti-police, anti-authority, some want to change America's economic system, legal system, election system, medical system, penal system, education system but I hear as many causes as there are protesters. Is the only way to appease them to give in to every cause? If we hang every one that works on Wall Street than will the anti-government people be happy? Will the anarchists be happy? It seems to me that the OWS movement has so many heads it can only tear itself apart.
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09:44 PM on 10/18/2011
I would disagree. It may seem like a disjointed, scattered movement - but the reason it is so broad is because it calls for a systematic change.

This is what Obama got elected on in 2008... Change. We were ready for a big one. And we are still ready -- and it must be as sweeping as the effects of government are.

If there were only one or two things that were the problem, people would still be indoors. But nowadays, there probably is not a single issue these protestors, myself included, are pleased with in the current system.

When will these anarchists be happy? It's simple - when that change finally starts happening. When the people in power now cease being happy. When the tables turn.
07:36 AM on 10/19/2011
Here's a couple clueless, stupid, lazy, waiting for handouts.
05:13 PM on 10/19/2011
Kinda like, "They have money and we deserve at least half of it" No need to work when someone else has already done it. Wall Street does not owe me anything. If I want something I will go out and earn my own money.
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Progressive old broad
06:57 PM on 10/18/2011
I should have put the first two paragraphs in quotes.

and "fine" is " find"

sometimes I get giddy with excitement. shame on me.
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Ann Starke
Progressive old broad
06:55 PM on 10/18/2011
A separate group out of Zuccotti Park has also been working on a list of possible proposals, but one source said he suspects the Demands Working Group's list will become the national platform.

They've posted the list online but they've also made this announcement under the radar: a national convention to be held July 4, 2012:

You wanted specifics? All you have to do is scroll up and fine these paragraphs and you will have your specifics. They are listed numerically. Just click on the "list online". It is extraordinary.
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Adam Dray
There's a snake in my boot!
04:31 PM on 10/18/2011
Personally I can't help but laugh. I especially love the whole 'The world is watching' shout they keep saying...UM PEOPLE, do you realize something.........the WORLD HATES AMERICANS! SO yeah, they're watching...and laughing their butts off!
09:33 PM on 10/18/2011
there's no such thing as "the world" when you are speaking in terms of people's views. But in general, those that "hate Americans" hate the american political economic programs (specifically the ones that screw people in much of the world), but don't hate American people.
Most people are intelligent enough to know the difference.
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09:49 PM on 10/18/2011
They hate us so much -- many protests around the world this weekend involved people saying they were in 100% solidarity with the US. I agree with the other poster - that when people often say they hate the US (my family is from Croatia so I hear this quite a bit from relatives) it's just that they disdain how proud they are of their stupidity and lack morals.

On the other hand, intelligent protestors who see beyond this - are something they can generally respect.
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03:28 PM on 10/18/2011
It's to bad that the best OWS blog / thread doesn't have a link from the main page. Waiting for another WOW moment or are they trying to kill this feed off?