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Mitt Romney, Rick Perry Take Hits On Their Immigration Records (VIDEO)

First Posted: 10/18/11 11:59 PM ET Updated: 12/18/11 05:12 AM ET

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney defended his record on undocumented immigration during a Tuesday GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, taking hits from Texas Gov. Rick Perry for twice hiring companies that employed undocumented immigrants.

"They're coming here because there is a magnet and a magnet is called jobs," Perry said. "And those people who hire illegals ought to be be penalized. ... You stood here in front of the American people and did not tell the truth that you had illegals working on your property. A newspaper brought it to your attention and you still, a year later, had those people working for you."

Republican presidential candidates have turned "magnet" into a dirty word, accusing each other of supporting policies that would encourage unauthorized immigration to the United States.

Perry attacked the former governor of Massachusetts for criticizing companies that hire undocumented immigrants despite once employing them. Romney used a landscaping company in 2006 that employed undocumented immigrants, then hired another company in 2007 that did the same.

Romney said he fired both companies when he discovered they employed undocumented immigrants -- particularly because he was running for office. He added that it can be difficult to tell whether contractors are hiring people with legal documents.

"We went to the company and said look, we can't have any illegals working on our property. I'm running for office, for Pete's sake," Romney said. "I can't have illegals."

Romney said Perry's policies as governor, particularly his decision to grant in-state tuition to some undocumented young people, proved he "did not pass muster" on tough immigration enforcement.

"When you were governor ... you put in place a magnet," Romney said. "You talk about magnets, you put in place a magnet to draw illegals into the state, which is giving $100 thousand of tuition credit to illegals that come into this country."

Perry has been repeatedly criticized by his opponents for signing a 2001 law that allows undocumented students to receive in-state tuition in the state's public universities, provided they attended at least three years of high school in Texas and are attempting to gain legal status. Perry declined to defend the policy, instead going on the attack. But he was later forced on the defense again, for stating in the past that he would not support a full fence along the southern border with Mexico.

While the other candidates called for a border fence to keep undocumented immigrants out, Perry again said that building a fence along the entire southern border is unrealistic because it would take too long and would be too expensive.

"You can build a fence, but it takes anywhere between 10 and 15 years and $30 billion," Perry said.

Herman Cain, the CEO of Godfather's Pizza, meanwhile defended his controversial statements on a border fence, passing up an opportunity to recant his "joke" that a border fence should be electrified to keep unauthorized immigrants from crossing the Mexico-United States border.

"I don't apologize at all for wanting to protect the American citizens and protect our agents on the border," Cain said.

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) took a slightly different tack, promising she would build a "double-walled fence" to keep immigrants from crossing the southern border and that she would make English the official language of the country.

The candidates threw around the word "illegals" liberally, but softened their tone when a Latino man stood to ask the candidates how they would appeal to Latino voters -- perhaps reminding them that they were in a state with the 12th largest Latino population in the country. Undocumented immigrants, though not exclusively Latinos, make up 7.2 percent of Nevada's population.

Although Latinos do not necessarily support undocumented immigration, a strong majority -- 79 percent -- oppose laws like Arizona's S.B. 1070 that crack down on unauthorized immigration, and even more support paths to citizenship for undocumented immigrants already in the country, according to a report from the Pew Hispanic Center.

And in Nevada, Latino voters hold major power in elections, particularly as the state's Latino population grows. Latinos are partially credited with keeping Democratic Sen. Harry Reid from losing his seat in 2010 to Republican immigration hawk Sharron Angle, who released multiple ads featuring menacing photos of Latino men depicted as dangerous criminals.

Perhaps with this in mind, Romney took a "step back" to bring up his support for legal immigration.

"I think it's important for us as Republicans on this stage to say something that hasn't been said, and that's that every person here loves legal immigration," he said. "We respect people who come here legally."

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WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney defended his record on undocumented immigration during a Tuesday GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, taking hits from Texas Gov. Rick Perry for twice hiring companies that ...
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05:04 PM on 10/21/2011
Immigration is always a hard topic for me and I know I catch flack for supporting illegals. I guess being an immigrant allows me to understand that situations can change so quickly and I too could have been here illegally. Truth be known, many illegals work their tails off more so than any American I've ever known. They sweat and tire all for minimal wages. No one ever appreciates how hard they have to break their backs to make sure their employers are happy. I know this country has laws and in a perfect universe, everything will follow the law...it isn't so and we must understand that certain people need to be given a little leeway. Of course I don't support anyone here illegally who break the law, but why should employers and good illegals have to suffer because some people are upset. Just think about what it would be like living in a 3rd world country, your opinion of illegals will change quickly. Also you have to keep in mind how difficult it is for an illegal to be here and not be discovered. It must be so stressful to live in constant fear of being deported...to take jobs you don't want just so you can feed your family, it's not sunshine and roses for them.
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Pointing out the hypocrisy of the Left and Right
03:53 PM on 10/20/2011
if you hire a ilegal but their is a American willing to do the work you should be penalized.

Americans before illegals!
11:15 AM on 10/20/2011
If someone doesn't use E-Verify, take away their business license. That will solve the problem very quickly.
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01:55 PM on 10/20/2011
DAN---BINGO PROBLEM SOLVE. NOT ONLY THAT BUT IF ILLEGALS CAN'T GET A JOB, THEY WILL DEPORT THEMSELVES BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
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12:01 AM on 10/20/2011
"Perry said. "And those people who hire illegals ought to be be penalized"

This coming from the man running the 2nd largest sanctuary state in the country. Tx provides for the illegal parents to take care of kids, those here illegally and those with US born American citizens. Many parents have a combination of both. We provide welfare, WIC, food stamps, housing, medical, primary, secondary education and college "in state tuition rates" and give state grants and institutional aid to illegal students. 

Also, those committing crimes in Tx are released back into the community instead of being deported most of the time. I know one person arrested 6-8 times for beating up his wife, driving while intoxicated, getting into fights at bars and all times except once, he was released back to the community. The one time he was deported, it only took a few days to get back. 

If Perrys' picture is not in the dictionary when you look up the word "hypocrite", it should be! 

Disclaimer: Tx resident for over 25 yrs with 10 yrs on the border. 
07:58 PM on 10/19/2011
Perry is so stupid and ignorant he forgets that the US built a 2000 mile ROAD through some of the worst terrain in the world in less than one year during WWII. It is called the ALCAN highway. We could do a double fence with razor wire on top and that would cut down on most of the illegals, not to mention making drugs and guns harder to smuggle across the border. A fence works BOTH ways.

Perry is also hypocritical for denouncing Romney since Perry REFUSED to allow an E-Verify bill out of committee in the State legislature. He fought against any measure to punish and prevent employers from hiring illegals. The reason is that Robert Perry, the big GOP donor in Texas, has over half his workforce which is illegal. Such a law would cost Bob Perry millions of dollars in profit.
05:15 PM on 10/19/2011
I'm so proud of these young latinos trying to get the best education they can get..Im happy someone else realized it too.. that they dont just come over here to sit on a couch watching novelas. I would love to see everyday americans work as hard as these Immigrant workers having to wake up at 3 am to catch the bus to pick Your lettuce..or Clean Your house and Build Your Country. they do all so they can provide for families..but very disappointed in some of the illeagals that do soak up the system. they should deport those who contribute nothing but fillling a space.
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01:58 PM on 10/20/2011
26SNR-----THEY SHOULD GO BACK TO MEXICO AND BUILD THEIR COUNTRY... WE HAVE 40 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED.. WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE, GET IT ?
02:56 PM on 10/20/2011
then do the job. bend over for hours..pick up a hammer..take their spot and prove me wrong..untill then zip your lip sweetie pie. get it?? Muchas gracias for nothing. And your a little late I commented on this days ago.
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Pointing out the hypocrisy of the Left and Right
03:55 PM on 10/20/2011
their illegal. i dont care how hard working they are, their is just as hard of working American out their that needs work to.

they want to come here? do it the legal way like everybody else has to.
05:19 PM on 10/20/2011
No one came here legally in the beginning....we stimulate the economy more than any legal American ever will and you know that.. You should go back to school so they can teach you how to spell. I can see your in the closed minded crowed and don't appreciate what Hispanics do for the U.S....They come over here for freedom. A chance to be better and to make something of themselves.. The minimum wait time to be able to get here legally is 10 years. Because they have the drive and motivation they struggle just to get to the side that is greener.
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05:14 PM on 10/19/2011
October 2011.
A pitiless hunting party in the Greatest Country is taking place! Run! Run!!! They want our skin.
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04:58 PM on 10/19/2011
They've just declared Open season.
01:45 PM on 10/19/2011
Finally a bit of sense from perry.
01:42 PM on 10/19/2011
I would like to know who works on those Perry hunting grounds that has the controversial rock?
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angelshalo321
02:01 PM on 10/20/2011
ALL RICH PEOPLE HIRE ILLEGALS AND PAY THEM CASH TO OVOID PAYING THEM INSURANCE----WHEN THEY GET SICK ---HAVE BABIES THEY GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND THOSE OF US WHO HAVE INSURANCE PAY FOR IT WHEN WE VISIT THE HOSPITAL..
01:08 PM on 10/19/2011
it's a shame to see how many people like to blame the way the country is at this time on illegal immigration without paying attention to the real picture, they like to blame who they want and not who it is, banks giving credits to people who can't afford to pay them, credit card companies making millions on interest just by having all this people with low income with 5 or 6 of them...illegal immigration does have an impact on economy but is not the cause of all the problems like they want to make it seem, they are being blamed for everything that happens and i don't think a lot of people who give their opinion here would be willing to go work on the dairy farms, cattle feeders, the farm fields, etc.. so no they are not taking your jobs, this are the jobs that you do not want to do
01:50 PM on 10/19/2011
I know a new science teacher who works at Jiffy Lube to make a buck. He said he'd work the fields if need be. He is white as they come. And a real citizen too!!
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05:19 PM on 10/19/2011
But has he been denied a job working the fields? Obviously he wasn't denied his manual labor job at jiffy lube.

People are always making the claim that immigrants, illegal or otherwise, are stealing jobs that Americans would do. But the people making those claims are always talking about some abstract American. They're never people who applied 10 times to pick strawberries or pluck chickens and got turned down each time because the employer preferred illegal mexicans.

And why would an employer prefer that. Why take the risk, minute though it may be, of being raided by government agents and fined for hiring illegals if you have plenty of applications from 'real citizens' who want those jobs and are willing to work just as hard for just as low pay and no benefits as those job stealing immigrants?
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05:14 PM on 10/19/2011
an estimated 20 million illegals has more than just a passive impact on the economy. You obviously have an agenda and want to minimize the impact but it just doesn't hold water. I live in South Florida where we are SWIMMING in illegal immigrants to the point where one needs to learn spanish to thrive in Miami. And believe me they are working in construction, landscaping, hospitality, healthcare and everything in between. It's true that Americans complain more about it during hard times when so many Americans are out of work but that doesn't diminish the real impact on American workers. If Americans were flooding Mexico with low wage workers and putting Mexicans out of work there is no question what would happen.
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01:04 PM on 10/19/2011
Who is illegal here?? Here these two clowns argue over Illegal immigration in a state that we took from Mexico in an imperialistic expansionary Illegal WAR
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01:59 PM on 10/19/2011
Did not the U.S. Gov't purchase the northern half of Mexico in two separate land sales for a total of $25 million USD?

Land, the Apache Indians claim to be stolen from them by the Mexican Gov't?

1848 ~ Guadalupe-Hidalgo Treaty ~ $15 million USD
1853 ~ Gadsden Purchase ~ $10 million USD
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02:33 PM on 10/19/2011
Exactly -- we bought that piece of land so yes, if you come into this country without following the letter of the immigration laws you are illegal and must be deported.
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03:10 PM on 10/19/2011
buy ?? you have no sense at all just like Ms Bachmann ~ either empty headed ~or solid bone skulled~ I am more American than you can ever hope to be .. it was AN IMPERIALISTIC WAR of invasion just like Hitler into all of Europe .. and my European ancestors were here in cities in New Mexico long before the Mayflower landed And nobody knows how many thousands of years my indigenous ancestors have been here .. so just go fly your ignorant intolerant kite somewhere else or go BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM
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02:09 PM on 10/20/2011
VIVI-----EVEN LEGAL IMMIGRATION , WE DO NOT NEED MORE LEGAL IMMIGRATION... IS TIME TO SHUT DOWN ALL LEGAL IMMIGRATION INCLUDING H-1 VISAS ... WE DO NOT NEED MORE IMMIGRANTS.. WE HAVE 40 MILLION PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED----HOMELESS----ON WELFARE.
12:16 PM on 10/19/2011
eVerify works.

The ONLY problem with it is an employer actually using it. Most intentionally chose not to.
If you attach a fine for them not using it and a larger fine if they end up employing an illegal, the practice of hiring illegals would disappear.
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02:05 PM on 10/20/2011
DON'T COUNT ON DEMOCRATS TO FIX THE PROBLEM.. DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA WANT TO GIVE THEM AMNESTY SO THEY CAN HAVE THEIR VOTES..---------> A HISPANIC VOTER WHO VOTED FOR OBAMA BUT NOT AGAIN.. MANY HISPANICS WANT THE IMMIGRATION LAWS ENFORCE, LEGAL HISPANICS.
12:00 PM on 10/19/2011
Here is where I take issue with aliens (legal or otherwise). The article says "Although Latinos do not necessarily support undocumented immigration, a strong majority -- 79 percent -- oppose laws like Arizona's S.B. 1070 that crack down on unauthorized immigration". Well, whats that? Its support!!!! Let me see if I understand. You come here legally, and no one is asking you to adopt our culture or customs, but just to follow the laws we all voted on. Instead, you are supporting illegal behavior. To say that even more support paths to citizenship for undocumented immigrants just means that you further show a dispespect for our laws. The path already exists, just follow the rules. They want special rules for just Mexicans and Latinos I guess, because they are the majority of the problem. Anyone that employs, harbors, or gives safe haven to illegal aliens should be jailed. Thats a job creator. Build new jails for illegal aliens, and put hem in it. deportation just means they come back. After serving 3-5 years for example, Pedro wont be so eager to return. Its a Felony in Mexico. Comon!!!!
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05:20 PM on 10/19/2011
jail them and send Mexico the bill for their upkeep because they are the ones exporting their poverty problem to the US.
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angelshalo321
02:07 PM on 10/20/2011
FLORIDA, IS TRUE.. THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WANTS TO GET RID OF THEIR POOR PEOPLE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEM. MEXICAN GOVERMENT IS HELPING ILLEGALS GET ACROSS.
11:48 AM on 10/19/2011
I find it a tall tale that this writer would say that Latinos don't necessarily supports illegal immigration but then go on to say they support a pathway to citizenship for them. That, in essense, IS supporting illegal immigration.

If they don't support illegal immigration, they would be like the majority of Americans calling for their deportation and enforcement of our immigration laws. The fact they aren't, they supports illegal aliens and to give them amnesty.