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Norm Macdonald On 'WTF': Lorne Michaels Wanted A Female 'Weekend Update' Co-Anchor

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 10/18/11 04:57 PM ET Updated: 12/18/11 05:12 AM ET

Norm Macdonald was the guest on Marc Maron's "WTF" podcast on Monday, and revealed that his career could have changed dramatically if not for the support of an unlikely source: Steve Martin.

Macdonald hosted Weekend Update on "Saturday Night Live" from 1994 to 1997, a period when Macdonald's news show parody was frequently cited as the highlight of an otherwise lagging show. Chevy Chase has even said that Macdonald was his favorite Update anchor. Frequently controversial and always bone-dry, Macdonald's humor was a wickedly bleak voice distorting the news in the days before "The Onion" or "The Daily Show" were household names.

But Macdonald revealed the Lorne Michaels originally had another idea in mind: A female co-anchor alongside Macdonald. The comedian was against the idea.

From "WTF with Marc Maron" (beware, those offended by the F word):

Well I remember this one time he wanted me -- this was actually about Weekend Update -- they wanted me to do Weekend Update with a lady. Like the two of us. And I thought I don’t want to do that, that sounds like shit. I was like if there’s a lady and a dude, what are we making fun of local news or something? What the fuck is that?

And he was like, no, no....he had some crazy idea. And I think he liked me because I didn’t understand what he was talking half the time. He goes “You’ll be Fred Astaire, she’ll be Ginger. You’ll give her the comedy and she’ll give you the sex.” And I was like, the dancers? And I had no idea what the fuck he was talking about.

So anyway I said, I don’t want to do it with a fucking lady; let [Al] Franken do it. ... I didn’t care that much about it, because I could just do standup.

Of course, Michaels would have his way a few years later with the enormously successful pairing of Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon as co-anchors. But at the time, Macdonald did not feel that it would work. More importantly, neither did Steve Martin.

But anyways, what happened was funny. At that moment Steve Martin walked in, because he was hosting, and Lorne, to embarrass me, said, "Let’s see what Steve thinks about it." And Steve Martin doesn’t give a fuck about anything. So [Lorne] gives this big long spiel and Steve Martin is completely uninterested... but luckily, just fucking right of the blue, Steve Martin goes “Oh fuck, one time I did this awards show with some broad, they paired me up with up with her and she fucked everything up. And then Lorne was like “Ooh, some support from an unexpected place...”

Interestingly, the only female cast members on the show at the time were Janeane Garofalo and Ellen Cleghorne. Unless Michaels planned on bringing in an outside performer to host Update, it seems likely that he had Garofalo in mind for the "lady" spot, considering her political material.

Then again, what could be drier and more sarcastic than a Macdonald/Garofalo pairing? Maybe Steve Martin saved us all from a barrage of snark that surely would have resulted.

Macdonald told Maron that to this day, he believes he was fired from "SNL" simply because the show stopped finding him funny, and not because of network politics or his irreverent treatment of O.J. Simpson, as many speculate. "I told Lorne at one point I'd do [Weekend Update] forever. What if I was like Walter Cronkite? I wouldn't ask for much money, [but] I'd do it till I was 65," Macdonald said.

But despite having veteran "SNL" writer James Downey on his side, Macdonald was dismissive of the idea that then-NBC west coast president Don Ohlmeyer had him fired.

"I think the whole show was tired of me not taking marching orders. Lorne would hint at things ... I'd do Michael Jackson jokes. And Lorne would say, Do you really want a lawsuit from Michael Jackson? And I'd say, 'Cool! That'd be fuckin' cool, Michael Jackson suing me!'"

For the full 88 minute interview with Norm Macdonald, where the veteran comedian opens up about his past gambling problems, love of literature and ongoing quest for spirituality (really), download the latest free episode of "WTF with Marc Maron."


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butchcliff
The future is unwritten
07:59 AM on 10/20/2011
Never warmed to Norm the person, but always loved his snl dry cutting humor. A lot of times tho his jokes left an awkward moment of silence
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drunkarate
12:03 AM on 10/20/2011
Norm is great with prepped material, but TERRIBLE off the cuff. I also find it amazing how far to the right he's gone since his Weekend Update days. He's really off the farm now.
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PatientZeroBeat
Dying since 1962
11:06 PM on 10/19/2011
Norm Macdonald was absolutely the best anchor ever. It just goes to show how diverse different poeple's sense of humour can be: He was fired because a suit didn't find him funny.
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Bor Zoi
10:11 PM on 10/19/2011
Hey, hey, easy with that, that's my lucky stabbing hat!
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05:12 PM on 10/19/2011
a brilliant interview.
maron is really nailing it.
he's a total comedy insider and comedian
talking shop with the gliterati -
but also, he's got this great twist of working out psychological demons
and drawing in others into that workshop. brilliant stuff.

norm comes off super-interesting. a real artist. of the struck-by-lightning variety.
a jackson pollock of mirth.

kudos sir maron.

p.s. are we okay?
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Lulo
To The Center!!
04:23 PM on 10/19/2011
His bits had more dead air moments than any other...painful to watch at times.
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Scott Michael Labenski
03:35 PM on 10/19/2011
his bashing of oj and michael jackson in that deadpan delivery was masterful.
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Scott Michael Labenski
03:34 PM on 10/19/2011
Norm is my top 3 personal favorite comedians! He WAS the weekend update. Thank Science they didnt put him with a lady. I still to this day search youtube for old norm interviews.
02:45 PM on 10/19/2011
Norm MacDonald on the disease of alcoholism:

http://comedians.jokes.com/norm-macdonald/videos/norm-macdonald---comparing-diseases
Benjacomin Bozart
Jefferson-better to eat bacon at home than to rule
11:51 AM on 10/19/2011
Harry Harrison pointed out in Bill the Galactic Hero that an Imperial planet wide city has no plants to produce oxygen and does produce mountains of carbon. Plus waste disposal is a galactic size problem. And woe to the person who loses his city A-z guide and gets lost. Another reason why the prequels are pretty stupid.
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Freedom Rush
freedom is the oxygen of the soul
09:49 AM on 10/19/2011
I really enjoyed that interview. It's nice to see Marc and the podcast mentioned here on the Post and it was good to hear the real Norm on Marc's show. Nice job fellas.
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ashisu
09:12 AM on 10/19/2011
Really? I don't understand his appeal. He's my least favorite Update Host. I prefer Tina Fey.
10:46 AM on 10/19/2011
he goes over a lot of peoples head. norm is my favorite.
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John Lewis
04:18 AM on 10/19/2011
Norm usually has great banter with others. He doesn't so much speak to them but instead shouts at them.
11:45 PM on 10/18/2011
Who saved Norm from a female co anchor? You guessed it, Frank Stallone.
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John Lewis
04:16 AM on 10/19/2011
Note to self...
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Queso Grande
No, YOU have the last word. I insist.
09:40 PM on 10/18/2011
Norm's funniest line came the Saturday after the OJ verdict: "This just in, murder is LEGAL in California!"

It sounds, from the interview, like Norm did a lot of writing for W.U. I'm kind of surprised, because I would have thought that most, of not all, of the writing was done by SNL writers.
10:47 AM on 10/19/2011
norm has a strange delivery. he almost had to write those jokes.