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ROTC Returns To Ivy League Universities

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By MICHAEL MELIA   10/23/11 01:26 PM ET   AP

NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- Yale sophomore Andrew Hendricks has gotten used to receiving strange looks when he crosses the Ivy League campus in his Air Force uniform.

Hendricks, the only Air Force cadet at Yale, wears the uniform on days he drives to the University of Connecticut to train with the Reserve Officers' Training Corps, a program that had been barred from his university until faculty agreed to welcome it back beginning next fall. Judging from the reaction of Yale students, he does not expect much of a stir when cadets start conducting drills amid the Gothic buildings in New Haven.

"I never get anything negative," said Hendricks, 19, of Fairfax Station, Va. "I think it's mainly that people are really curious because they don't see a lot of military influence on campus."

Four decades after Vietnam War protesters cheered the departure of ROTC programs from some Ivy League universities, their return is bringing little more than a symbolic change to campuses where a new generation of students is neither organizing against them nor lining up to enlist.

Yale, Harvard and Columbia all signed agreements this year to bring back ROTC. The antagonism with elite universities faded with the end of the draft, and much of the lingering opposition to the military dissolved with last year's repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," the policy that banned gays from serving openly in the armed services. The universities said the policy violated non-discrimination rules for campus organizations.

A tiny number of students at these schools pursue ROTC – a total of three at Yale and five at Columbia do so through off-campus arrangements – and those numbers are not expected to rise dramatically anytime soon. But the agreements to revive ROTC are important to the schools, which once produced many of America's most decorated military officers, and the armed services, which are regaining a presence at some of the country's best-known universities.

Officials are excited about ROTC because it offers students another path to national leadership, the dean of Yale College, Mary Miller, said in an interview. She said the administration was influenced by appeals from President Barack Obama, who used his State of the Union address to call on universities to engage more directly with the military, and a survey by Yale's student government that found support for ROTC.

"We hope by making a path to military leadership available on campus, that students will pursue it in part because the opportunities for that leadership come so early in military careers. It has a strong youth culture component, which has been quite striking to me," Miller said.

The ROTC program, which was founded in 1916, has 490 host units, most of them concentrated in the South and Midwest. Students receive scholarship money in return for agreeing to military service after graduation.

In the years surrounding World War II, thousands of soldiers and sailors trained on Ivy League campuses. But last year, only 53 students from the conference's eight universities were commissioned through ROTC programs.

Yale has agreed to host Naval and Air Force ROTC detachments next fall. Air Force officials say it is too early to assess how many might enroll, and Navy officials say they are hoping at least 15 freshmen, from an incoming class of about 1,300, will attend Yale next year on Naval ROTC scholarships.

The change is likely to be even less visible at Harvard and Columbia, where Naval ROTC gained formal recognition but students are expected to continue training at nearby campuses. At Harvard, which has nine midshipmen training at other Boston area schools, the Naval ROTC director said it would not make sense to create a new detachment.

"You need some type of sufficient numbers to be able to have a battalion and meaningful leadership roles, and nine does not cut it," Capt. Curtis Stevens said. "You can barely man a color guard with nine."

Regardless of the numbers, he and other advocates said it is important to the military to be represented on elite campuses.

"Symbols matter, and the symbolism of America's leading universities declaring or even implying that there is something illegitimate about serving your nation in uniform was shameful. Fortunately, we've now gotten over it," said Graham Allison, director of Harvard's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs and a former U.S. assistant secretary of defense.

Stanford University's faculty also voted this year to invite ROTC back to campus, but it has not reached agreements with any of the service branches. Other prominent schools including Princeton, Cornell and the University of Pennsylvania already host units.

But there is still some resistance in the Ivy League. Brown University's president, Ruth Simmons, said this week that she continues to back the school's policy of denying ROTC recognition as an academic program.

A music professor at Brown, Jeff Todd Titon, said many on the faculty feel there is no place for the military at a liberal arts college.

"The military is a chain of command organization where obedience is required, and that's just antithetical to our ideals and goals," he said.

Susanna Kotter, a Yale junior from Boston, has concerns about sexual violence in the military, but she said having future officers on campus could help her learn about an institution that is not part of her daily life.

"If that will elicit more conversation about the Army, I'm OK with it," she said.

The bans' reversal marks a renewal of long military traditions at Yale, which had 25 graduates serve as generals for the Union Army during the Civil War, and Harvard, which has produced more Medal of Honor recipients than any institution outside the service academies.

Hendricks is looking forward to dropping the three-hour weekly commute to Storrs when ROTC comes to New Haven, and he also thinks it will make him feel more at home on his own campus.

"Knowing that I'll be doing this for Yale, I'll feel more school pride," he said.

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01:21 PM on 10/25/2011
This could have all been avoided.

"How Hillsdale Beats Harvard":

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124389872115674363.html#articleTabs%3Darticle
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pepper1311
POGS are dirt
10:15 AM on 10/25/2011
I this funny, such bastions of liberalism, discriminating because of career choice.I know why we another 'Professor in Chief'
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11:00 PM on 10/24/2011
ROTC never left the Ivy League. Cornell has continuously carried all three services. Just because Harvard, Yale, and some of the other schools had a problem (and not necessarily an inappropriate argument for how their monies are distributed), Cornell is still part of the Ivy League and did not cease their programs.
For everybody bashing "the Ivy League", get over yourselves, since many state schools and private universities do not have ROTC .
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CabCurious
let's be honest
03:43 PM on 10/24/2011
This is a good thing.

There is nothing wrong with serving in the military, especially as a well-rounded and educated officer. I am thrilled to see this finally moving ahead.
03:37 PM on 10/24/2011
The liberals who run the Ivy League schools saw nothing controversial about inviting Khatami, Ahmadinejad, or a Taliban spokesman to campus while opposing the ROTC programs. Sure, attack the military for being 'anti-gay' yet say nothing about the Muslims who advocate killing gays.
09:32 PM on 10/24/2011
They also graduated a fair number of senior military officers through the Kennedy school during the same period and had a number of senior military leaders as speakers. I don't think they had a Islamist Terror Training Program.

Apples and oranges.
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Bishop999999999
02:06 PM on 10/24/2011
I hope you grow to appreciate that lonely walk in uniform, cadet. Realize that you're the only one on that campus who can honestly say that they "Think Different."
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CabCurious
let's be honest
03:43 PM on 10/24/2011
That's so ignorant and pretentious, that it's actually funny.
01:23 PM on 11/11/2011
Bishop: True statement! That lone cadet ensures Yale has at least one free thinker.
12:58 PM on 10/24/2011
Why does the government need to pay for ivy league educations for soldiers?
02:21 PM on 10/24/2011
Well, for one thing, the students will become officers when they graduate, not non-commissioned soldiers.

Secondly, there's some who might say that a person with a well-rounded and rigorous education might be effective in today's military, which is more complicated and more reliant on subtle understandings of world politics than ever before.

Why wouldn't you want a military officer with an Ivy League education?
02:57 PM on 10/24/2011
It is an investment frankly. You are trying to retain people for careers a lot of the time and this is one of the ways you do it, you give them a good education and then they look more favorably upon it.
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hagagaga
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12:24 PM on 10/24/2011
Can somebody explain to me how ROTC is "controversial?"

I'm amazed that more students at all universities don't do it. It gets you a fairly well-paying job for at least three years, with some pretty good benefits with regard to healthcare and things. Granted, I'm a high school senior who wants to go to the Virginia Military Institute, but still...
01:28 PM on 10/24/2011
It's the military, the military is the pervue of really stupid hicks who love their country and their gawd, they have no business being in the same community as me, we have absolutely, positivity nothing in common, and I will NOT waste my time attempting to educate them..... I don't have to either as I'm at Cambridge(UK).

The point being if America educational institutions wish to be treated as equal, to rank amount the Crème de la Crème of Academia, they shouldn't pander to dumb hicks.

As for your very practical choice - the military pays better than McJobs and offers a decent benefits package. I don't argue that, but by the same token, various criminal organizations make obnoxious amounts of money via ethnically dubious means as well. The question you have to ask yourself is "Am I willing to do things I know I shouldn't in order to secure a decent life for myself". That's a very personal question with no absolute right or wrong answer, people do what they must to survive.
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Bishop999999999
02:07 PM on 10/24/2011
Army here.

What exactly is it that I do that is ethically dubious?
02:24 PM on 10/24/2011
wow. IF they are dumb hicks how did they get into such colleges as Yale?
The United States has the best colleges in the world...
02:58 PM on 10/24/2011
You'll have fun with the Rat Guards. Seriously if I were you I'd enlist and know what you're doing, I did ROTC before I enlisted and when I go for OTS I'll be better for it.
08:41 AM on 10/24/2011
It still can't hide the hypocrisy of the Ivy League Schools. They wouldn't allow the military on their campuses, but they had no problem inviting the radical Muslims who advocate killing gays. Harvard hosted Mohammed Khatami, Yale welcomed a Taliban spokesman, and Columbia rolled out the red carpet for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
07:23 PM on 10/23/2011
College maybe. Never in high schools. The problem with ROTC is they have recruiters that talk BS
03:03 PM on 10/24/2011
I can assure you that is us enlisted guys not the ROTC kids...
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CabCurious
let's be honest
03:45 PM on 10/24/2011
I strongly agree that high school recruitment seems inappropriate, but such is life.
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Dantee
I drink for the pain!
05:46 PM on 10/23/2011
Let's have some schools specialize in teaching young people how to prepare for a career, build a home and raise a family and other schools to teach young people to fight wars for corporate profit. Don't try putting them together.
02:50 PM on 10/24/2011
Yes, because no military officers ever want a career, home and family.

Unbelievable.

Trying watching some videos of soldiers returning home and surprising their families and then get back to me about how those brave people should be separated from everyone else.
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Dantee
I drink for the pain!
06:50 PM on 10/24/2011
I was recruited from high school in Southern Louisiana in 1968. Don't try to lecture me, e-street hustler.
03:04 PM on 10/24/2011
A lot of people I know have had very good careers with DOD in all branches of the service, with a family and a home.
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Dantee
I drink for the pain!
06:46 PM on 10/24/2011
I'm either a patriotic American tax-payer and US Military Veteran with my American rights or I'm that same patriotic American tax-payer and US Military Veteran without my American rights! If you are the one god has annointed to deny me those rights, please show me some justification!
04:36 PM on 10/23/2011
remember this though if there are not those willing to protect our country who will..there will always be those people who wish us harm and our men and women in the military deserve our respect not our criticism
04:34 PM on 10/23/2011
i believe its the students choice and the schools should offer it i was in Army JROTC for 3 years and i loved every minute of it they mold you into something most are not who are they do say what a student can and cannot be a part of...they have brains of their own let them choose
04:21 PM on 10/23/2011
Sadly, ROTC continues to violate the non-discrimination policies of these Ivy League Universities. The fact that the universities are willing to pretend that it doesn't is shameful.
08:41 AM on 10/24/2011
And where were all these "non-discrimination policies" when Ivy League schools discriminated against the ROTC? And what about those same schools that invite Islamists to their campus?
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04:07 PM on 10/23/2011
They should just deny funds to these schools and not worry if they accept ROTC.
03:05 PM on 10/24/2011
Ivy schools are not at a loss for cash.