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As Wall Street Protest Grows, Occupiers Attempt To Change Movement's Structure


First Posted: 10/25/11 08:21 PM ET Updated: 12/25/11 05:12 AM ET

As the Occupy Wall Street protests continue to expand, protesters camped out at Zuccotti Park have begun to focus more of their energy on the internal structure of the movement itself.

In short, they are trying to determine how a leaderless movement that gives every participant a voice can effectively make decisions that account for transient participants, large sums of money and increasingly tense community relations.

For nearly six weeks, all collective actions in the park have been determined by the General Assembly, which uses a daily open meeting to address issues ranging from purchasing new trash cans, to doing laundry, to the ousting of global financial powers. Now, some inside the park are contending that the assembly -- while still valuable in certain respects -- is broken when it comes to two critically important, related tasks: distributing the nearly $500,000 accrued in donations, and making critical structural decisions about life in the park as winter grows close and the surrounding community pushes back.

One enduring point of tension is the growing communal warchest -- the majority of which, thus far, has gone unspent. In the first month of occupation, $485,000 was donated by roughly 8,000 individual, anonymous donors, who gave through the Occupy Wall Street website and in donation boxes around the park. But only $66,000 has been spent, spurring some accusations of a democratic system unable to mete out funds.

But many inside the park are deeply resistant to any change -- particularly change that appears to take power out of the hands of the collective group and put it into the hands of a handful of leaders.

"I think the General Assembly is a beautiful thing, but it started becoming apparent to me that we needed an alternative model when I realized that a large portion of the attendees of the assembly are first timers," said John Friesen, 27, who said he has been living in the park since the first day of the occupation.

"At the beginning the General Assembly was small and we were okay with the lack of procedure," he added. "But now there are growing pains. We're dealing with the evolution of the organizational structure, security inside the park, taking care of everyone's basic needs."

Friesen also pointed out that many of those who participate in working groups -- collectives that deal with needs ranging from food, medicine and money to education reform, drumming, and culture -- no longer attend the General Assembly.

Friesen, like some other park dwellers, supports a new organizational structure called the spokes council. Under the proposed plan, the General Assembly would still exist, but most of the decisions about life in Zuccotti Park -- such how much money should be devoted to laundry and which areas of the park should be reserved for sleeping quarters -- would rest in the hands of a smaller, rotating council.

The council would be composed of a group of "spokes" who would represent the needs of the 60 or so working groups that have sprung up since the movement's inception. As the proposal currently stands, spokes would be nominated by sets of related working groups before every council meeting, and discuss proposals with group members before deciding on the proposal with other spokes. If a group decided its spoke wasn't accurately portraying the group's opinion, it could replace it with another member. The entire system, if it is passed by the General Assembly, could also be dissolved by the assembly at any time.

At a meeting on Tuesday afternoon to review the proposal, which is supposed to go before the General Assembly for a vote this week, three members of the structure working group -- the architects of the spokes council model -- met with a group of eight protesters to hammer out the details of the plan.

But practical realities and theoretical anxieties collided.

"When you're making budgetary decisions at the General Assembly you're also including passerbys," said Adash Daniel, a live-in occupier and member of the structure group. "These could be people who might want to see the movement fail and they're empowered with the same decision-making ability that people who are sleeping in the park have. They can come in, make a terrible vote and then leave."

"But people are seeing this as a money grab, a power grab," said Jared, a participant in the meeting who did not want his last name used. "Have you thought of this proposal without the money?"

But the purpose of the proposal, others pointed out, is to form a collective group with the institutional memory and context to make informed financial decisions. The spokes council without authority to make financial decisions would just be another group adding their voices to a collective that, as some see it, is nearing the end of its usefulness.

A man who had a name tag that said Jose -- with the "o" inscribed with a peace sign -- raised his hand. "What's stopping you from making this happen now?" he asked.

"The biggest obstacle is a broken system," said Marissa Holmes, another member of the structure group. "We have to go through the General Assembly and deal with a system that currently doesn't work to get this implemented."

To make matters more difficult for those supporting the spokes council, many in the park said they do not see the the General Assembly as a broken system at all.

"I have a lot of faith in the GA," said Maria Fregoso, a member of the facilitation group, which assists with the General Assembly. Fregoso recently put together a list of all the proposals that have been passed by the assembly. "I feel like there's a lot of ways to improve the GA that haven't been tried."

The facilitation group already has one such idea underway: a board on which every assembly-approved proposal will be posted for 24-hour review. The proposals will also be available online.

"I'd like to see those ideas exhausted first," Fregoso said.

UPDATE: This report has been updated to clarify the spokes council process, and correct the number of working groups at Occupy Wall St. The number is around 60, not 30.
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As the Occupy Wall Street protests continue to expand, protesters camped out at Zuccotti Park have begun to focus more of their energy on the internal structure of the movement itself. In short, th...
As the Occupy Wall Street protests continue to expand, protesters camped out at Zuccotti Park have begun to focus more of their energy on the internal structure of the movement itself. In short, th...
As the Occupy Wall Street protests continue to expand, protesters camped out at Zuccotti Park have begun to focus more of their energy on the internal structure of the movement itself. In short, th...
As the Occupy Wall Street protests continue to expand, protesters camped out at Zuccotti Park have begun to focus more of their energy on the internal structure of the movement itself. In short, th...
 
 
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03:19 PM on 10/28/2011
Oh, and is was an error by my computer....I know how to spell should!
03:18 PM on 10/28/2011
Really? Drugs=Educ­ation=Budd­hism=lack of success...Whoever said this, shouyld read about Steve Jobs. The Genius of APPLE. He did drugs, LSD, and he was very successful. He also followed Budhism. People on here really are very uneducated.
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02:28 PM on 10/28/2011
the answer to their problem is simple. They must incorporate as a 401C3 corporation, elect a board of directors, list on the stock exchange, submit a 10c report anually. Issue corporate bonds, pay dividends, comply with Dodd/Franks and EPA regulations. Pay union wages................wait a minute. They would have to protest against themselves!!
08:30 AM on 10/28/2011
I see these young protesters as victims. They will carry the burden to pay off the nations debt. The more Obama gives away the higher their taxes and lower their standard of living in the future. The sad thing is average people are looking at them as useless. I mean who can disreguard work and responsibility and camp out in the park for a month. No one will take you seriously when you lack responsibility. It is time the protesters go home no one is even paying attention any longer.
10:10 PM on 10/27/2011
Just too funny! The liberals are fighting about how the money is spent!
09:11 PM on 10/27/2011
They should be protesting the Federal Reserve! watch these on u tube, "The Creature form Jekyll island", "America: Freedom to Fascism" & "proof America is a Republic not Democracy"
03:17 PM on 10/27/2011
Where's the tape on Peter Shiff, who's in the 1%, talking with the OWS crowd? Not on HP? It's on the other websites. They don't want you to see him schooling the people, and them not being able to give coherent answers. He pays 55% in taxes and employs 150 people!
05:51 PM on 10/26/2011
This is an amazing demonstration of the birth of a democratic system of government in micro. Not one that people joined but one that grows out of individual interests and common cause.

I predict that from this "demo" will come a new "American Spring" in 2012.

However, the odds are decidedly not in our favor. Fior those of us out here looking in, who support the movement in principle, need to protect it from outside efforts to crush the movement and let them work through their issues.

Its a bit like "Survivor Zuccotti" lol, Here people get added to the island instead of booted off.
(If that becomes a TV show I want 1/2 my royalties donated to OWS :-)
04:53 PM on 10/26/2011
Anyone else see this as some kind of social experiment on the verge of collapse? Could anything be more meaningless?
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10:51 PM on 10/26/2011
O my, you must be one of them Republicans.
04:35 PM on 10/27/2011
Oh my, you must be one of them OWP that do not know what they are protesting for...
oilfield
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12:03 AM on 10/27/2011
it is interesting.....i like how they are forming a government so to speak.
04:50 PM on 10/26/2011
Americans blame the federal government more for the nation's economic plight than they do the primary target of the Occupy Wall Street protests --- big financial institutions. If you don't know why people are protesting on wall street, this article gives a very good explanation on it.

http://explainlikeakid.blogspot.com/2011/10/why-people-are-protesting-on-wall.html
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03:07 PM on 10/26/2011
It's like these OWSers have done so many drugs and sat in liberal college classes discussing Nirvana, they have lost touch with how to succeed in today's world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaZF4FJ2eUA&feature=related
zSpin2001
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04:17 PM on 10/26/2011
Really? Drugs=Education=Buddhism=lack of success.
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Eris23Skidoo
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05:09 PM on 10/26/2011
Or maybe they don't want to debase themselves. Look around you. Have you seen an honest businessman in the last thirty years? There aren't any. All the honest businessmen have been bought out. Their businesses are all in the ground because the cheaters are all ahead because the regulations were tossed out. In order to succeed in today's world you have to have no morals and be willing to kill and maim in order to make a buck. Most of us don't want to participate in that system. Morally bankrupt conservatives of course, have no problem with the status quo.
04:36 PM on 10/27/2011
When I look in the mirror I see an honest businessman.... haha.
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njgal4obama
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02:43 PM on 10/26/2011
My how our perspectives have been skewed.

Because OWS doesn't already have a budget deficit, it's automatically assumed they are not operating effectively.

I thought that being economical and having money in the bank were good things.

But what do I know?
02:37 PM on 10/26/2011
The GA is now the 1%
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Eris23Skidoo
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05:12 PM on 10/26/2011
That makes no sense.
02:01 PM on 10/26/2011
So, it is hard to give everyone a voice because some people might not have your best interest at heart? Hard to manage the daily routines and requirements in a way that keeps the organization functioning (like grocery shopping and drumming)? Subject to money grabs and power grabs?

Why don't the take the half a million that has been donated and just divide it up between all of the people that are at the protest at 8 AM tomorrow morning. Then everyone can fairly spend their share however they see fit. Sure, some have been there longer than others and some are just newcomers. But, even the guy that just walked up deserves his share as much as the guy that has been camping out for three months. Or, the guy who volunteers to grocery shop, drum, pick-up garbage, etc......he shouldn't get more than the guy who just lays in the grass all day, should he?

Growing pains??? Sounds like growing up pains...........the blessed dawn of realization.
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Eris23Skidoo
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05:15 PM on 10/26/2011
I imagine that's how baggers would handle it if 8000 Americans gave you guys a half million dollars. You'd look at is as "your" "share" of "earnings". That isn't why people donated money. We didn't give them money so they could cash out and take their share and go live their life. We sent them money because they inspired us and because they are calling out Wall Street. They are going to keep on calling out Wall Street until all of America tells you republicans and your Wall St allies to go move to Somalia where there is zero regulation.
05:44 PM on 10/26/2011
Baggers and Republicans??? Is that what you got out of my post? You are to quick to anger and way too presumptuous. It would be just as wrong of me to assume everyone involved in the protest is a democrat, because we know the dems are in bed with Wall Street also.

With that said, I consider myself an independent and a realist. And the reality of this article is that it shows the naivety of the demonstrators and their supporters for their simplistic views of social justice and the global economy.
01:21 PM on 10/26/2011
The Wall Street occupy camps will be over when the winter storm roll in. Let's see them camp in a sleeping bag under 3 feet of snow. Right now ACORN employees are being paid $100 a day to hang out there and the homeless are being paid $10 per hour with money raised by former ACORN staff. But when the snow rolls in the protesters will roll out. Next topic please.
01:22 PM on 10/26/2011
Of course HP and the liberal media is not covering the news out that people are being paid to support the occupy movement.
Cite: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/10/26/exclusive-acorn-playing-behind-scenes-role-in-occupy-movement/
02:40 PM on 10/26/2011
That's the difference between HP and Fox. HP covers news. Fox makes it up.
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njgal4obama
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02:44 PM on 10/26/2011
Fock snooze?

LOL!
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12:32 AM on 10/27/2011
I have a pseudo-patent on "SuperGenius." My superhero name is SuperGeniusGuy. You soil the name.