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First Posted: 10/26/11 06:16 PM ET Updated: 12/26/11 05:12 AM ET

Does speaking English and Spanish fluently make you less American? Is bilingualism a hindrance to the American dream?

As the nation’s Latino population continues to surge and the 2012 electoral season intensifies, expect more talk on both sides of the perennial question: What language is spoken here?

Republican presidential candidates Michele Bachmann and Newt Gingrich have both pledged to make English the official language of the United States. Bachmann stood on a chair at a packed Des Moines, Iowa, campaign event recently and repeated her English-only promise to cheers and applause.


Mitt Romney and Bachman have mispronounced the Yiddish word “chutzpah” at different events but don’t expect to hear its rough Spanish equivalent “atrevimiento” from the mouths of the GOP candidates.

Gingrich’s English-only pledge comes a time when the candidate is seeking the crucial Latino vote with his own Spanish-language Twitter account, and a Spanish-language campaign website called “Newt Presidente.”

In one Spanish-language post, the campaign said there is no contradiction between his English-only plan and his use of the Spanish-language to reach potential voters and donors. The headline of the Spanish-language post: “Newt in favor of English... and of Spanish.”

Studies have shown that English-only could hurt Latino graduation rates, according to a 2010 poll by the Associated Press and Univision that was conducted in connection with Stanford University, The Huffington Post reported:

The findings also raise questions about whether English-immersion does more to assimilate or isolate -- a heated debate that has divided states, academics and even the U.S. Supreme Court. Arizona recently ordered its schools to remove teachers with heavy foreign accents from English-language instruction, while the Obama administration is seeking to push more multilingual teaching in K-12 classrooms.

“The language barrier is still a serious risk factor for Hispanics,” said Michael Kirst, a Stanford University professor emeritus of education who helped analyze the survey. Even with many schools replacing Spanish with English in classrooms, for a student evaluated as learning English, “the odds of completing high school, and particularly college, significantly drops.”


At Coral Way Elementary, “bilerate” education has been embraced, with the test scores of the 1,500 mostly low-income students among the highest in the city, NPR reported:

There are about 440 public bilingual immersion schools across the country, up from only a handful in the 1970s. A growing number today teach Mandarin and French, not just Spanish.

But in some states — California, Arizona, Colorado and Massachusetts — bilingual immersion programs are banned because a majority of voters don't think children can learn proper English and hold on to a foreign language and culture at the same time.
It’s an issue that gets caught up in the angry debate over illegal immigration, especially from Spanish-speaking countries. Even in Miami, when Rosa de La O tells people her kids attend a bilingual school, some always ask, “Are we loyal? Are we not? Is a child is going to absorb that?” she says.

Parents like de La O say being fluent in English and Spanish does not make you less of an American. It just creates more pathways to the American dream.

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04:33 PM on 11/23/2011
Learning new languages is a good thing! keep them in schools.. they open kids minds to new things
Epilef2000
Cafe Con Leche Party
09:52 PM on 11/16/2011
Thomas Jefferson knew six languages, Including Spanish; Johm Adams knew French, Dutch And hebre-- all three knew Greek, and Latin...ambassador Ben Franklin knew French and Italian.

The founding fathers did not stipulate English as ana official language in the Constitution, in my opinion, because language is a matter of individual choice-- and I imagine, that's the country grew economically and educationally, they expected Americans to be multilingual
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shyhon
Truth, Justice and the American Way
10:17 PM on 11/16/2011
I disagree. Please look at this from www.usefoundation.org

All fifty-five delegates to the Constitutional Convention spoke English. They took it for granted English was the language of this country. Since the overwhelming majority of the American population spoke English, the founders may not have thought it necessary to declare in law what existed in fact.

Those who say the founders favored a multilingual government for the United States point to documents published in French and German during the American Revolution. But the fact remains that after the Constitution of 1789 created our present form of government, there is not a single example of Congress approving multilingual publications during the time of the founders.

Just six years after the Constitution took effect, Congress deliberately rejected a request to publish copies of federal laws in German.

Two years later, Congress rejected a similar request. The debates cited the cost of printing in multiple languages and the confusion that might result from problems in translation–concerns as valid today as two hundred years ago.

In 1811, President James Madison signed the Louisiana Enabling Act, establishing the conditions under which Louisiana could become a state. It required the laws, records, and written proceedings of the new state to be in English.

Opponents of official English tend to ignore the votes against printing laws in German, and that James Madison, architect of the Constitution, approved a bill that mandated English as the language of government for Louisiana.
Epilef2000
Cafe Con Leche Party
10:35 PM on 11/16/2011
All true, and German almost became the "unofficial" language of the United States as opposed to English--unfortunately, the Founding Fathers did not place such requirements in the Constitution; which either means we need an Amendment, or English may one day be replaced by another language.

There is no doubt language is an important heritage of a country; which is why I am amazed at Americans who complain that the French are discriminatory because they only want to speak to you in French (even if they speak English or another language). As such, I do think, even if English is declared an official language, what is needed is a moderate policy that does not discriminate people's right to speech in another language. I speak Spanish and English fluently, it is irrelevant if English is declared official or not, but when a place of business makes policy that no foreign langauge can be spoken, its to draconian and discriminatory. In school I was told to speak "American"; I have to agree with George Bush Jr. policy which was "English Plus"--which is a great thing, we need more multilingual people.
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shyhon
Truth, Justice and the American Way
11:30 PM on 11/16/2011
My husband grew up speaking spanish and english as well. His mother spoke 7 languages, his father three. My uncle, born and raised in Texas spoke 13.
The more languages the better. Some of my grandkids are learning to speak Korean from one grandmother, another set of g. kids are learning arabic. Still another set learning spanish.
My mother in law, born and raised in Egypt spoke with a charming french accent. That was her first language-the other six followed.
America is so isolated from Europe there really isn't any incentive to speak French or Italian, etc. In my husbands family, all spoke spanish because born and raised on the border.
Epilef2000
Cafe Con Leche Party
04:57 PM on 11/17/2011
Wow..that is amazing....I would love to speak that many languages..and its great that you family continues learning languagse..some families loose their tongues, and I find that it is a sad thing, not only because of heritage but because it has the potential to be lucrative (career-wise)_ as well. I am just working on my third; and being bilingual, I strongly believe and there is evidence, that speaking and writing different languages provides a different perspective and different ideas. I know that my personality changes when I speak in Spanish or English.

I agree..in the US there is little incentive to know other languages precisely because of its relative isolation; but when our Ambassadors and diplomats, and even our own military lack vital languages, its a failure to our economic and political success.
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AntonioSaucedo
11:01 AM on 11/12/2011
And usually some of the most vociferous anti-bilingualism people don't speak English properly. They's just fixin' to complain 'bout them Mexicans.
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AntonioSaucedo
10:58 AM on 11/12/2011
If you're bilingual it's time to learn more languages. That'd shut up many a monolingual. I speak five myself. And counting.
11:37 PM on 10/30/2011
I speak fluent English and okay Spanish. If I'm speaking in Spanish and you don't understand me, then most likely I'm not talking to you, or else I want to spoil your eavesdropping.
04:17 PM on 11/23/2011
OMG I Love your comment!! :)
Dayne
People are people
08:18 PM on 10/30/2011
Learning new languages is always a good thing. It expands the mind, opens up new opportunities, and exposes people to new things. Having ESL, immersion, bi-lingual, whatever it's called in your state is fine .... HOWEVER. English has, is, and should be the ONE official language of this country, period. If you can't speak English, you don't graduate. If you can't speak English, you shouldn't drive and if you can't speak the language there is no way in the world you should vote. It's pretty simple people. Communication is vital and that means having ONE OFFICIAL language. This isn't about racism, right/left, English vs. Spanish, this is about having one language that ALL CITIZENS can communicate in effectively, or at least passably.
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PaticaDeGato
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09:20 AM on 10/30/2011
Only in the land of the "freedom fries" would speaking a second language be seen as a threat.
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Danilo-11
Obama is attacked the same way Jesus was attacked
09:24 PM on 10/29/2011
1st Make English the official language. 2nd. Make speaking a foreign language illegal. 3nd. Make cursing in public a federal felony. That's the "Freedom" that they believe in.
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lenguss
02:13 PM on 10/29/2011
Bilingual education is one of the worst crimes foisted upon Hispanic children, preventing them from immersion and learning English the way kids do. This makes them second class all the way. The ONLY path to American life and citizenship is by learning English. Kids do it in a few weeks or months, the same way they learned Spanish, by absorption. Every other nationality did it - Hispanics can do it too.
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broui
No d#%& cat. No d#%& cradle.
06:29 PM on 10/30/2011
English is the 2nd most difficult language on the planet for a person to become fully proficient in behind Manderin Chinese. Why? We have varying kinds of metaphor (most other languages don't) and multiple definitions for words.

There are FIVE levels of ELL classes before a student is fully mainstreamed without support. Why? Because often they can speak it fairly quickly but reading and writing it take years. SIX to EIGHT is the average - and this assumes they were proficient in their native language in the first place.

Bilingual Education is essential for students if they are to have a prayer of immersion at all.
06:33 PM on 10/30/2011
Dear Droui,

Try Dutch, German or French, English is not bad compared to any of these. The key to economic well being is to able to speak the native language of the country you live in, if you can not, then your economic well being will suffer.

It did not take me 8 years to learn to read and write English, I was able to read Dutch in about 3 months.
05:21 PM on 11/02/2011
Bilingual education doesn't deny access or importance of English. It simply says we can utilize the amazing potential of millions of young people by developing their bilingualism. The second class status of Spanish speakers in this country is a far larger issue, one of economics, racism, history, and disenfranchisement.
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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
02:09 PM on 10/29/2011
Hola....Hello...Salut...Dag

Por favor...Please...S'il vous plait...Alsublieft

Beinvenido...Welcom...Bienvenu...Welkom

Gracias...Thanks...Merci...Bedankt
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TedEjr
Geeky nerd. Or is it nerdy geek?
01:44 PM on 10/29/2011
From the article---Republican presidential candidates Michele Bachmann and Newt Gingrich have both pledged to make English the official language of the United States (END)

I guess that leaves Jeb Bush out of the equation for any run at the Presidency. His wife is hispanic, and he speaks Gringo Spanish.

Come on folks. Drop the xenophobia. Only the insecure insist on hiding behind one language.
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MauricioC
Be careful-90% of people are from accidents
01:40 PM on 10/29/2011
I have been speaking English, Spanish and "Spanglish" for as long as I can remember. When do I speak English? When I'm at work, or when I'm out and about doing whatever. When do I speak Spanish? when I'm with friends at a party, or whatever.

In most parts of the world, people normally speak 2 or 3 languages on a daily basis. Only here does it seem to be a big deal.
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Chi Man Sam
Liberal, Pro-Choice,Union,Women,Anti Religion-GOP
06:14 PM on 10/29/2011
The joke in Europe is,
If your Tri-Lingual your from Europe,
If your Bi-Lingual your from Spanish,
If your only capable of speaking one language
your American.
10:13 PM on 11/03/2011
Actually, with speaking English, Spanish, and German, and being an Anglo for appearance sake, many people figure I'm an Argentinian, and my parents immigrated after the war.

You're spot on about Europe's thoughts on Americans, that and darn near nobody here can drive a standard transmission, which is the norm in the rest of the world!
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
10:16 AM on 10/29/2011
One key question I have to ask about bilingual education, keeping in mind that English is the anchor language: Whose langauge should take precedence? Spanish? Swahili? French? Italian? Mam? Hindi? Urdu? Chinese? Kanjobal? Quiche? Yoruba? Portuguese? Arabic?

If you have a school where the students come from all over the world and they all want to retain their native tongues, do we have to hire a teacher to teach each one of them in their respective native languages "and" English? If so, at whose expense? If we cannot do this and we have to chose one language, whose language are we going to chose? Why?

This is my take on this: This is the United States of America! English is the "unofficial" official language. Schools should not have to choose one foreign language over another. Bilingual education is great but no langauge, other than English, should have primacy over the other. It should be a choice for the student to choose whatever foreign language(s) they are interested. My children chose Spanish; but nobody should be forced to learn any language that is not the mainstream language of the United States. If you are an immigrant, learn English, if you do not currently speak it!
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Danilo-11
Obama is attacked the same way Jesus was attacked
09:28 PM on 10/29/2011
Maybe .... each school district should make this decision.
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
10:58 AM on 10/30/2011
That sounds good but the question still remains: Whose (or which) language should take primacy and why? For me the issue here is: If you are in the United States, you must learn English, as the "undisputed" mainstream language, before you talk about any other foreign languages. If parents want their children to learn any language other than English, they should do it at their own expense. If the language is offerred at the school where their children attend, fine. But, no language should take primacy over another when it comes to bilingualism. Heck, I want my children to speak my native language too. So, I also have the right to insist, under the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, that my native tongue be funded for my child by a school disctrict as his billingual alternative, if that school district is funding billingual education for other immigrant groups.
If we all want our native tongues to be a billingual alternative for our children, how is that going to work out? Who will pay for it? I suspect that every immigrant has as much right and desire that their children communicate with me in their native tongues just like any other immigrant group. So, this issue is not just black and white; we have more gray areas than black and white.
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broui
No d#%& cat. No d#%& cradle.
06:34 PM on 10/30/2011
We do it quite effectively at my high school.

However, we do not have professionals that speak all the languages - just those that are the most prevalent among our immigrants (Spanish and Russian). Our ELL teachers manage to teach quite effectively to the rest, though I don't know their methodology.

The expense? ELL teachers cost the same as a general ed teacher does. We staff based on need - what the numbers demand.
Intelligentia
Anti-Racist
09:33 AM on 10/29/2011
Is bilingualism a hindrance to the American dream? No! What kind of question is that?

Does speaking English and Spanish fluently make you less American? See "Question," below.

Question: Does speaking English and [Italian] fluently make you less American? Does speaking English and [French] fluently make you less American? Does speaking English and [Russian] fluently make you less American? Does speaking English and [Arabic] fluently make you less American? Does speaking English and [Swahili] fluently make you less American? Does speaking English and [Portuguese] fluently make you less American? Et cetera.

Do you see how that question sounds when you substitute Spanish with any other foreign language?

Bilingualism is not the problem, it's monolingualism in a language other than English that can kill the American dream for the non-English speakers, unless the American dream to the non-Englidh speakers means dead-end jobs that keep them perpetual underclass in the United States.
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bbertaud
Je ne regrette rien, rien de rien
10:07 PM on 10/28/2011
I grew up speaking English, French and Spanish, I have two nationalities , Canadian and Belgian...and speaking 3 languages (and a fourth one after a couple of beers) doesn't make me any less Canadian or Belgian