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U.S. Credit Downgrade Possibility Not Scaring Lawmakers

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First Posted: 10/28/11 09:38 AM ET Updated: 10/28/11 09:38 AM ET

A growing number of lawmakers do not think another downgrade of the country's AAA rating will harm America's economy, raising questions about how much pressure Congress is under to fix the intractable budget deficit.

Analysts warn, however, that signs of complacency on Capitol Hill threaten efforts to cure America's long-term fiscal health.

Bond markets defied predictions of a jump in borrowing costs since August when Standard & Poors downgraded the country's AAA credit rating, after the debt ceiling crisis.

Tim Ryan, a Democrat on the House Budget Committee, said there was broad sentiment in Congress that the U.S. economy would not necessarily suffer from a downgrade by the other two big agencies -- Fitch and Moody's -- that still rate U.S. debt as AAA.

Ryan cited the role of the three major agencies in the buildup to the 2008 financial collapse, when they gave AAA ratings to the toxic mortgage-backed securities at the heart of the crisis.

Since then, Ryan said, "the credit rating agencies have lost a tremendous amount of credibility. The U.S. is still the safest investment to make" -- meaning another downgrade may have little influence how investors view U.S. debt.

When it comes to fixing the economy and sentiment on Capitol Hill, "I don't think the ratings agencies' analysis is the major issue," Ryan told Reuters.

A bipartisan congressional "super committee" is tasked with finding ways to cut the budget deficit by at least $1.2 trillion over 10 years by November 23. If it gridlocks, across-the-board spending cuts of $1.2 trillion are due to begin in 2013. However, some analysts say they could yet be undone by a new Congress elected next year.

It is unclear how most members of the deficit-cutting committee feel about the risk of another downgrade. But even if they reach a deal it must be passed by the full Congress, too.

Congressman Michael Grimm, a Republican, told Reuters: "There's no question that when the sky didn't crash after the first downgrade, it has been easy for some members to become complacent and to say we can absorb another downgrade.

"There have been some that think we can absorb another one and they hide behind the fact that the credibility of the ratings agencies has been called into question.

"I think that's dangerous because by doing that you are not accepting the gravity of the debt."

Ratings agencies analysts have said they are watching closely for signs that U.S. politicians can come to grips with the country's fiscal mess.

Stephen Hess, Moody's lead analyst for the United States, said an immediate downgrade is unlikely even if the super committee flopped.

"That would be negative information but it is not decisive in our view about the rating," Hess told Reuters.

Moody's wants to look at other factors in the coming year, such as the result of the presidential election, the next annual budget, the overall economy and whether any of the Bush-era tax cuts expire at the end of 2012, he said.

FEAR FACTOR DIMINISHES

"The reaction to the S&P downgrade has reduced the fear factor on Capitol Hill," said Steve Bell of the Bipartisan Policy Center, which has been urging lawmakers to come up with a broad deficit-reduction plan.

Bell, who supported the S&P downgrade because he thought it would galvanize Congress to deal with deficits, said he had spoken recently with half-a-dozen senior congressional staff members from both parties.

"I was surprised by the nonchalance" to the prospect of another downgrade, Bell said. "The attitude on the Hill is, 'Treasuries are the safest place to put money at the moment, because look what happened after the S&P downgrade.' It is the worst possible outcome from the debt limit crisis."

S&P's downgrade in August seems to have encouraged investors to buy more U.S. Treasury bonds -- yields are now lower than before the downgrade -- but it triggered big losses on the U.S. stock market and was followed by a resurgence in concern about the debt crisis in the euro zone.

Many analysts believe that the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts at the end of 2012 may be the only true galvanizing force on Congress to reach a deficit-reduction deal.

If Republicans want to keep some or all of those tax cuts, they may finally be forced to agree to Democratic demands for revenue increases -- which Republicans have so far resisted -- as part of a deal to pay down the U.S. national debt.

G. William Hoagland, a former Capitol Hill veteran who served as staff director of the Senate Budget Committee, said another U.S. downgrade could further hurt Europe's economy, in turn posing a risk to the fragile U.S. recovery.

"The nature of the global economy dictates that actions we take in the U.S. have ramifications far beyond our domestic borders. It would be a mistake for the legislators and decision-makers to not take into consideration that those global impacts will come back to haunt our economy also."

William Galston, once a policy adviser to former president Bill Clinton, said complacency over a downgrade "can only further diminish the pressure to reach a deal here and now."

Senator Rob Portman, a Republican on the super committee, said the reaction of the ratings agencies to the panel's work "should be a serious concern to all policymakers."

Yet Portman also noted that the United States continued to attract investors despite the S&P downgrade.

"Someone told me recently ...'The cleanest of the dirty shirts is the United States,'" he told Reuters. "If you look in your closet and say, 'Which shirt should I wear today,'" the United States wins out."

(Reporting by Tim Reid, Editing Paul Simao and Chris Wilson)

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10:49 PM on 11/02/2011
Remember to check your credit folks - http://www.freecreditreportadvice.com/
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themodernleader
06:58 AM on 10/31/2011
Downgrading is the policy of this dangerous administration. What is downgrading? Letting the powerful have their way in ownership and monopoly while inflating the currency-devaluating the currency. Result Destruction of the middle class and economic self-sufficiency. Bankruptcy, massive unemployment and anarchy is our immediate future. After that calumnhy it is anybody's guess.
04:07 PM on 10/30/2011
Aren't the rating agencies the ones who blocked the Atlanta bill to not allow subprime lending before the housing collapse?
Wow, just pass a bill to help the people and watch to see who opposes the bill. A lot of people you would least expect.
frank1946
Tell the Truth
09:46 AM on 10/30/2011
I CAN PRINT $$$.............................Therefore I AM !

We don't need "No Stinkin" Credit Rating !

So what if Interest Rates go UP and we experience a "LIQUIDITY" Crisis ?

It's only Food, a place to Sleep and Work..............who cares ?

SUPER needs to just DEFAULT and let the Worst Happen ? CR's Forever !
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Dr JAY Veeoh
08:53 AM on 10/30/2011
"someone told me" says Portman (that he can still wear his dirty shirt,because other's shirts are even dirtier)

With a man like that at the helm, citing "someone" and incapable of washing his shirt,the country's
financial security matches Greece and Italy.

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4TJefferson
Promote the General Welfare
08:53 PM on 10/29/2011
Consequences schmonsequences... as long as the rich get richer.
workquick
Vietnam Vet/ Writer. No PTSD, just paranoid
10:42 AM on 10/29/2011
So the gist of the article is the GOP/teabag party is intent on driving the credibility of America further down. 2012 has to be ouster year for them.
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AZreb
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09:57 AM on 10/29/2011
Talk about a 180! Didn't we hear the lawmakers and administration crying "The sky is falling" just before the first downgrade?

Now everything is just hunky-dorey, even if the two remaining entities downgrade our credit rating. Guess it works for government, but it sure doesn't work for the indiviudal.
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AlanBannacheck
President of the Deep Thoughts Association (DTA)
08:46 PM on 10/28/2011
Who cares anymore? Finance has become the art of legalized gambling,.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
09:57 AM on 10/29/2011
fanned - but finance has an ace or two up the sleeve.
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Dr JAY Veeoh
08:54 AM on 10/30/2011
You mean a joker or two ?
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knewsreply
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04:30 PM on 10/28/2011
The lawmakers have gone beyond "turning a blind eye". They are in complete denial that they had any part of the credit downgrade.
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drbob601
Soylent Green is People
04:29 PM on 10/28/2011
Scared? Why should they be scared? Nearly half (261) of our members of Congress are millionaires...and each and every one of them receives at least $174K annual salary (+ generous health benefits). In addition, the majority of them have spent more than one term (even decades for some) doing favors for other millionaires in the "private" sector...thus assuring themselves (and their families) of a comfortable (even extravagant) lifestyle for the foreseeable future.

Besides...they've spent three years (at least) getting almost nothing accomplished (other than writing blank checks to our nation's biggest - and most reckless - banks)...and they're still collecting those fat $15,000+ checks each and every month from the taxpayers. Many of them have been doing this for decades...with few or no repercussions. What would make them think that they can't continue this way for many years to come?

All they have to do is hire some expensive marketing consultants and campaign "strategists" to help them figure out how to dupe their "constituents" (particularly the "low-information" voters) into sending them right back to Capitol Hill.

These folks have nothing to worry about. They know how to work the system. It's how they got there in the first place.
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AZreb
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10:00 AM on 10/29/2011
fanned - take a look at he Gang of Twelve who are now in control of our future. Do any of them have the slightest idea of what is actually going on in our country? Most are professional politicians and millionaires without a clue.
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04:05 PM on 10/28/2011
Of course they don't care, they want to destroy this country.

In fact some members in Congress are actively betting against the American economy: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/18/968197/-Eric-Cantor-is-betting-against-America-on-the-stockmarket
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03:58 PM on 10/28/2011
"Since then, Ryan said, 'the credit rating agencies have lost a tremendous amount of credibility.'"

So did the government, Ryan - when they bought all those toxic securities that anyone with a brain knew were barely worth the paper they were printed on.
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03:55 PM on 10/28/2011
The Govt. as with the majority of Americans has not learned + the most important lesson when it comes to finances: Always, always, always live below your means. What does that mean? It means no matter how much income you have always make sure your expenses are a good amount below your income. The Govt. won't do this. They have no regard for our money becuase it is ours not theirs. However, unless we decide to enforce this at the Govt level and personal level we will go under. There is not other way around it. None. Its basic mathmatics. Disagree all you want, the truth is always still the truth.
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03:54 PM on 10/28/2011
We're running an annual deficit of almost $1.4 trillion dollars. Eliminating the Bush-Obama tax cuts (reverting to Clinton-era rates) for incomes > $200k would bring in about $70 billion per year, or only 5% of the deficit. Enacting the senate's recently proposed 5.6% surcharge on incomes over $1 million- in ADDITION to going to the 39.6% Clinton-era top tax rate, without doing ANY of the add'l spending sought by Obama & the democrats, would bring in even less than the $70 billion from eliminating the Bush/Obama tax cuts for incomes > $200k. In other words, if you both eliminate the Bush-Obama tax cuts for incomes > $200k AND sock the $1 mil+ earners with a 5.6% surcharge, at best you pare the deficit by about 10%. And that static analysis ignores the drag on the economy from those tax increases.

Some revenue increases are warranted, but tax increases will not even come close to closing our budget hole. Seriously spending cuts are needed. People act like the republicans have inflicted cruel austerity on the country against its will. The current federal budget is 7% higher than last year's. What austerity?
12:38 AM on 10/29/2011
I might just report you for DMCA violations to the original posting sites, who actually own the content.

I doubt you are janine here, conservativeguy on another site and now Iska Waran here:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/189497-fear-of-another-downgrade-sparks-worry-on-wall-street