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For U.S. Muslims, Work-Time Prayer a Struggle

Muslim Prayer At Work

First Posted: 10/30/2011 8:55 am Updated: 12/30/2011 5:12 am

By Omar Sacirbey
Religion News Service

(RNS) Dr. Syed Malik is a devoted Muslim who tries, and mostly succeeds, to pray five times per day, as demanded by his Islamic faith.

He is also an accomplished general surgeon in Orlando, Fla., who does complex operations that can last hours.

Malik, 66, would never leave an operating table to pray. Instead, when surgery and prayer times conflict, he performs prayers before surgery or makes them up after.

"I don't care if this goes against what some scholars say, I feel very comfortable with how I approach prayers," said Malik.

In fact, Islamic scholars generally agree that while prayers command high priority, they can be missed or performed later in extenuating circumstances.

While Muslims differ about what constitutes extenuating circumstances, many successfully integrate prayer into their workday, often with help from their employers.

Still, employers and Muslim workers sometimes clash over prayers.

This month (October), Hertz fired 25 Somali Muslim drivers at the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport who refused to sign an agreement pledging to clock out during prayer breaks.

Hertz says they initially allowed Muslim workers to pray during two paid daily breaks of 10 minutes each but many workers took more than 10 minutes. Nine Muslim workers signed the pledge.

The workers' union is challenging Hertz. But some Islamic scholars say that the rental car company offered the workers a solution compatible with their Islamic beliefs.

"Employers have the right to protect themselves. Unfortunately, there are Muslims who abuse the system," said Imam Yahya Hendi, president of Clergy Without Borders, an interfaith organization in Washington, D.C.

Hendi said that it was un-Islamic to accept pay for work one did not perform, and chastised the fired Hertz workers for making Islam seem "complicated" and "inadaptable to America."

"If Muslims can do it on their own time, this is the idea," said Zulfiqar Ali Shah, executive director of the North American Fiqh Council, a group of religious leaders who offer guidance on Islamic law.

"If there's a conflict between prayer and work, the Muslims should accommodate to work," said Shah.

To emphasize that point, Muslims point to a hadith, or story, about Prophet Muhammad in which he prayed the midday and afternoon prayers together.

Most scholars recognize the exception, but caution that it should be used judiciously, and not just to avoid uncomfortable situations.

"Would you step out of a meeting to use the bathroom or take a call from your son? Then why not take a few minutes to be with God?" said Hossam Al Jabri, an imam in Boston and former executive director of the Muslim American Society, an advocacy group.

"Being a little inconvenienced for the sake of God is not such a bad thing."

Most Muslims can complete their prayers in three to five minutes, although pre-prayer ablutions, or ritual washing, can take almost as long.

For each of the five prayers - pre-dawn, noon, afternoon, sunset, and night -- Muslims have a few hours to make them, although some say prayers are best when made early. These times change throughout the year as the length of the days varies.

Many Muslims find that employers are happy to accommodate their prayer needs.

In his 20 years with the same company in Los Angeles, IT Manager Soheil Naimi has seen supervisors come and go, but none ever prevented him from praying.

In fact, Naimi's prayer space has improved as he's been promoted. When he started, he had no office and used to pray in open conference rooms.

He later received a cubicle that was big enough to pray in, but was often interrupted by co-workers, who he tuned out while praying.

"I don't think I offended anyone," said Naimi, who asked that his company not be named. He now has his own office, so praying is easy. The only time performing prayers can be hard is when he's out of the office, said Naimi, who has prayed in his car, in a bathroom, and has occasionally missed prayer altogether.

Kelly Kaufmann, a program manager at a Chicago health insurance company, keeps a prayer rug in a Macy's tote bag at her office, and reserves one of her company's many meeting rooms twice daily for 30 minutes. Kaufmann, who also asked that her company not be named, text messages Muslim co-workers to let them know when she has a room reserved.

"I am lucky that I make my own schedule and control when my meetings are, and can simply come to work earlier or stay later if needed to ensure the time taken to pray does not interfere with the amount of work I wanted to accomplish during the day," Kaufmann said.

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Drmhp
02:13 AM on 11/05/2011
Religious dogma is a tough topic. I am a compassionate christain that can't even stand christain religious dogma. God know our hearts and when we put on these regimated acts of obedience, it does not make sense. Just care for each other people and stop acting like you are pleasing god.
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11:50 PM on 11/03/2011
Most commentators on this post appear to have assumed that all muslims pray five times a day - It is very few muslims who pray five times a day and there are many who do not pray even once a day.

As far as praying at work is concerned, there should be no problem if the employers can treat this as break-time or ask the employee to work extra time.

The employee must ensure that his break time is not causing any scheduling conflicts. Work should be a priority in case the employee is serious about his career.
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
03:13 AM on 11/03/2011
I use to make deliveries to a Muslim and there were times when I got there when it was a "Prayer time" and I would wait for him to finish to make the transaction. Wonder what he would have done if I showed up but sat in the truck with the parts he needed doing prayers for ten minutes while his customer stewed about his wasting time, as he was on his way to work? Time IS money, sometimes.
09:42 PM on 11/02/2011
Muslim prayer takes 5 or 10 mins max and only 2 prayers are performed during normal work hours. I think employers would benefit by having observant Muslims. Employers don't have to promote Islam but they dont have to become antagonistic toward islam either. At the same time, observant Muslims should understand that they live in a secular country that doesn't care much about religion and also antagonistic toward Islam. If they are unwilling to be a bit flexible, they should try to find jobs that wouldn't interfere with their prayer schedules.

Both sides can learn from each other. Dialogue and communication is the only way to move forward.
01:51 PM on 11/02/2011
Most of us don't believe in their god and couldn't care less about their prayer schedule. If praying to their god interrupts work they should find a job that supports praying to their god or be fired.
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Tracy Kline
02:16 PM on 11/02/2011
Agreed. Same rules for everyone.
02:37 AM on 11/07/2011
Yes, but Christians get Sunday off every week, and Muslims can't have a total of 10 minutes off to pray...that seems really fair.
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SO12
10:44 AM on 11/13/2011
that twice during working hours and I have worked with many Muslims that take ten minutes to wash there feet they usually take between thirty minutes ,which is fine as long as they clock out for there time ,
True Christians pray five time a day
when they wake up before they eat there meals and when they go to sleep .
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NYC123
11:48 AM on 11/02/2011
God doesn't need our prayers! Prayers are for our benefits. Acts of mercy are what is important in one's spiritual journey regardly of what faith!”
11:33 AM on 11/02/2011
"Employers have the right to protect themselves. Unfortunately, there are Muslims who abuse the system," said Imam Yahya Hendi

That pretty much sums it up to me. If you've been given 10 minutes of "personal or prayer" time then that's all you have. And if you're asked to clock out(like most that aren't working) then what's the problem?
01:21 AM on 11/02/2011
Belief should be respected in so far as everyone is entitled to believe as they choose. And since no one (except the Creator) has a 360 degree view of all things, we must be careful in drawing our conclusions, lest we show too much of our own ignorance. So much of science itself is formed on the basis of belief-- such as theory and hypothesis. The branch of theoretical physics is called that because proofs are lacking; the same applies for theoretical math etc.

As for proof of the supernatural, consider the big bang theory as promulgated in science-- one cannot uphold that theory except with the existence of God. You see science can often tell us the 'how', but only religious knowledge can tell us the 'why'. The two can also complement each other and enhance the understanding of both. Hence belief is important in both disciplines of thinking.
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jbrumf5632
10:44 PM on 11/01/2011
Stop talking to yourself and get back to work!
12:00 AM on 11/02/2011
Were you talking to yourself just then?
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
07:16 PM on 11/01/2011
Five times a day reciting the same nonsense to a non-existing nothing. What a silly way to waste a portion of one's life. It would be so much better to commit to saying something nice to someone five times a day.
12:02 AM on 11/02/2011
Five times a day putting one's forehead on the ground to realize that there is a force much greater than us, knowing that we are small and weak compared to God, knowing that we are accountable for each and every one of our actions, and having recharged one's faith after completing praying. A person who finishes praying gets back to his desk refreshed and renewed and is ready to take on the challenges of the day. If you actually took time to read what the prayer consists of, you wouldn't make the illogical claim that the prayer is "nonsense".
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
12:27 AM on 11/02/2011
There are plenty of forces greater than us... gravity, strong, weak, etc. We are each accountable to ourselves for our actions. I am in no need of refreshment and renewal in my daily work as I an personally committed to what I do and I know I provide a valuable, necessary service to my fellow man in my work. I have no need for prayer to achieve this. I don't need to know AT ALL what the prayer consists of because it is directed at a nonexistent being made up many hundreds of years ago by primitive nomadic dessert denizens and therefore silly in the extreme, no matter the content. You believe in a falsehood and should examine your beliefs with a critical eye. They are not helpful to you. Cheers.
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The Knocker
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
12:12 AM on 11/02/2011
As far as saying something nice to others, Muslims frequently greet others "Asalaam alaikum", which connotes "May the peace and blessing of God be unto you." This is a much better and profound greeting than telling someone "Good Afternoon", when they may have just lost a love one or their job.
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
12:30 AM on 11/02/2011
I'd prefer good afternoon to asalaaam alaikum as you describe. Better yet.... you look great! You must be feeling very happy because it shows!
01:52 PM on 11/02/2011
I don't believe in their god so that greeting has no more worth then "Gumby hopes you have a fine day!"
03:51 PM on 11/01/2011
Why does Islam demand a Muslum to pray 5 times a day? 4's not good enough. Seems like an arbitrary number.
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carmenalex
STR8 AGAINST H8
04:19 PM on 11/01/2011
Kinda like the number of Hail Marys and Our Fathers my priest told my to pray after i told him I committed some sin or another when I used to be religious. A lot of things in every religion are arbitrary.
TORSTEN HUSVEDT
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07:52 PM on 11/01/2011
And everything in every religion is false.
11:59 PM on 11/01/2011
It was originally 50. Can you imagine if Muslims had to pray 50 times a day and each prayer lasted about 5 minutes?
02:04 PM on 11/02/2011
That would be ideal. They wouldn't be able to murder as many people as they do now. Moslems should be required to pray non-stop 24/7/265.
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grittyreboot
LOLitical activist
03:00 PM on 11/01/2011
If a company allows its employees to take smoke breaks without having to clock out, I think this should be allowed. Both take roughly the same time, and the prayers only happen 1-2 times during work hours. Which is less than the number of smoke breaks taken on average.

-A smoker and an athiest.
06:10 AM on 11/05/2011
Actually, because of this issue, they were revising their policy so that smokers would also have to clock out during the breaks. Hertz has stated that the clocking-out won't affect their pay in either case, as long as their break is within the 10 minutes that they get. The policy seems more than fair to me. I believe there must be some other issue at stake here. Some sort of union power play, or just the fact that people are resistant to change.
01:42 PM on 11/01/2011
The idea that God is an oversized white male with a flowing beard who sits in the sky and tallies the fall of every sparrow is ludicrous. But if by God one means the set of physical laws that govern the universe, then clearly there is such a God. This God is emotionally unsatisfying... it does not make much sense to pray to the law of gravity. [Carl Sagan]
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
02:35 PM on 11/01/2011
It is highly doubtful that Muslims, who pray to an Arab prophet and the Jewish God consider Him to be " an oversized white male."
I think you're getting all mixed with Santa Claus.
03:26 PM on 11/01/2011
Good point. One small correction. Muslims don't pray to any prophets. Muslims only worship God. But He does not have a human form. The idea that we were created in God's image is purely a Christian belief.

God describes Himself in the Qur'an as "Light upon Light".
11:19 AM on 11/02/2011
Sorry for the confusion. My point was directed towards prayers in general.
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NYC123
12:10 PM on 11/01/2011
Being loving to thy neighbor, striving to do good, taking-in and broadening discernment and understanding, never speak ill of others, having godly principles in one's under current that advances our humanity, are the exercise of the fruitage of prayer to a lovely and giving God! And I would say, they are equally as important in this very divisive world, than exact prayer session markers!
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NYC123
01:46 PM on 11/01/2011
Good doesn't need our prayers! Prayers are for our benefits. Acts of mrecy are what are important in life with all cutures and faiths!
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
03:10 AM on 11/01/2011
If Moslem considers praying five times more important than the job, he shouldn't hold this job. No special accommodation should be provided.

"If the mountain won't come to Muhammad, then Muhammad must go to the mountain."
04:39 AM on 11/01/2011
1) There is a difference between Moslem and Muslim. Muslim is a follower of Islam. Moslem is a derogatory term started by Arab Christians. Either you ignorantly used the term or you intentionally tried to be derogatory.

2) No one is saying that work is unimportant. However, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 affords everyone the right to observer their religious practices while at work.
04:40 AM on 11/01/2011
* observe their religious practices
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
12:39 PM on 11/01/2011
OK, I'll use Mohammedan from now on.