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Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real

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SETH BORENSTEIN   10/30/11 03:39 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

The study of the world's surface temperatures by Richard Muller was partially bankrolled by a foundation connected to global warming deniers. He pursued long-held skeptic theories in analyzing the data. He was spurred to action because of "Climategate," a British scandal involving hacked emails of scientists.

Yet he found that the land is 1.6 degrees warmer than in the 1950s. Those numbers from Muller, who works at the University of California, Berkeley and Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, match those by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA.

He said he went even further back, studying readings from Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson. His ultimate finding of a warming world, to be presented at a conference Monday, is no different from what mainstream climate scientists have been saying for decades.

What's different, and why everyone from opinion columnists to "The Daily Show" is paying attention is who is behind the study.

One-quarter of the $600,000 to do the research came from the Charles Koch Foundation, whose founder is a major funder of skeptic groups and the tea party. The Koch brothers, Charles and David, run a large privately held company involved in oil and other industries, producing sizable greenhouse gas emissions.

Muller's research team carefully examined two chief criticisms by skeptics. One is that weather stations are unreliable; the other is that cities, which create heat islands, were skewing the temperature analysis.

"The skeptics raised valid points and everybody should have been a skeptic two years ago," Muller said in a telephone interview. "And now we have confidence that the temperature rise that had previously been reported had been done without bias."

Muller said that he came into the study "with a proper skepticism," something scientists "should always have. I was somewhat bothered by the fact that there was not enough skepticism" before.

There is no reason now to be a skeptic about steadily increasing temperatures, Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, a place friendly to skeptics. Muller did not address in his research the cause of global warming. The overwhelming majority of climate scientists say it's man-made from the burning of fossil fuels such as coal and oil. Nor did his study look at ocean warming, future warming and how much of a threat to mankind climate change might be.

Still, Muller said it makes sense to reduce the carbon dioxide created by fossil fuels.

"Greenhouse gases could have a disastrous impact on the world," he said. Still, he contends that threat is not as proven as the Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says it is.

On Monday, Muller was taking his results – four separate papers that are not yet published or peer-reviewed, but will be, he says – to a conference in Santa Fe, N.M., expected to include many prominent skeptics as well as mainstream scientists.

"Of course he'll be welcome," said Petr Chylek of Los Alamos National Lab, a noted skeptic and the conference organizer. "The purpose of our conference is to bring people with different views on climate together, so they can talk and clarify things."

Shawn Lawrence Otto, author of the book "Fool Me Twice" that criticizes science skeptics, said Muller should expect to be harshly treated by global warming deniers. "Now he's considered a traitor. For the skeptic community, this isn't about data or fact. It's about team sports. He's been traded to the Indians. He's playing for the wrong team now."

And that started on Sunday, when a British newspaper said one of Muller's co-authors, Georgia Tech climate scientist Judith Curry, accused Muller of another Climategate-like scandal and trying to "hide the decline" of recent global temperatures.

The Associated Press contacted Curry on Sunday afternoon and she said in an email that Muller and colleagues "are not hiding any data or otherwise engaging in any scientifically questionable practice."

The Muller "results unambiguously show an increase in surface temperature since 1960," Curry wrote Sunday. She said she disagreed with Muller's public relations efforts and some public comments from Muller about there no longer being a need for skepticism.

Muller's study found that skeptics' concerns about poor weather station quality didn't skew the results of his analysis because temperature increases rose similarly in reliable and unreliable weather stations. He also found that while there is an urban heat island effect making cities warmer, rural areas, which are more abundant, are warming, too.

Among many climate scientists, the reaction was somewhat of a yawn.

"After lots of work he found exactly what was already known and accepted in the climate community," said Jerry North, a Texas A&M University atmospheric sciences professor who headed a National Academy of Sciences climate science review in 2006. "I am hoping their study will have a positive impact. But some folks will never change."

Chris Field, a Carnegie Institution scientist who is chief author of an upcoming intergovernmental climate change report, said Muller's study "may help the world's citizens focus less on whether climate change is real and more on smart options for addressing it."

Some of the most noted scientific skeptics are no longer saying the world isn't warming. Instead, they question how much of it is man-made, view it as less a threat and argue it's too expensive to do something about, Otto said.

Skeptical MIT scientist Richard Lindzen said it is a fact and nothing new that global average temperatures have been rising since 1950, as Muller shows. "It's hard to see how any serious scientist (skeptical, denier or believer – frequently depending on the exact question) will view it otherwise," he wrote in an email.

In a brief email statement, the Koch Foundation noted that Muller's team didn't examine ocean temperature or the cause of warming and said it will continue to fund such research. "The project is ongoing and entering peer review, and we're proud to support this strong, transparent research," said foundation spokeswoman Tonya Mullins.

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Online:

The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature site: http://www.berkeleyearth.org/index.php

Judith Curry's blog on the study and her supposed criticisms: http://judithcurry.com/2011/10/30/mail-on-best/

Santa Fe climate conference: http://bit.ly/rQknVi

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12:41 AM on 11/15/2011
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ClimateHawk
Think before posting.
08:22 AM on 11/12/2011
From netdr:

"I was a true believer after watching "An Inconvenie­nt Truth" for about 6 months until I looked at the facts closely.

There were 2 main arguments which convinced me.
1) The CO2 and Temperatur­e graphs showing that they went up and down together.
2) The hockey stick graph showing that temperatur­es were cool for hundreds of years and shot up in modern times."

As Steven Chu says, many people believe global warming is happening because of sound bites, and many people believe it is not happening because of sound bites.

You can gain a better understanding by investigating a little deeper.

For a historical perspective a good place to start is: http://www.aip.org/history/climate/summary.htm

For a good summary of the long-term trends, see: http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators

The cause-and-effect reasoning is that we humans burn fossil fuels that increase the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and that is causing the planet to heat up. As the planet heats up, weather patterns are getting disrupted. Haven't you noticed?

Aside from common sense, there is strong statistical evidence that the extreme heat we have seen in Russia, France, and Texas is not "normal".

The evidence is in.

It's time to act (or for the pessimists, there is still a chance we can turn things around).
03:05 AM on 11/08/2011
While Rick Perry is telling Texas there is no such thing as Global Warming.........He certainly doesn't seem to want to stay there.

Three months straight of 100 degrees and rising every year...somethings going on there.
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Hitchcockcameo
In the shadows, directing your every move.
09:29 PM on 11/08/2011
Not only that, his state commissioned a report on Climate, and when the report came back discussing the ramifications of Climate Change, any mention of Climate Change was redacted by his staff.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/10/perry-officials-censored-climate-report
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Andrew Harvey
Don't F with the Jesus
08:58 PM on 11/10/2011
Yeah, its called La Nina, and its not related to AGW.
09:11 PM on 11/10/2011
Just don't tell us you know this, because Perry said so.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
12:31 PM on 11/11/2011
Not true.

La Nina is part of the planet's natural climate cycle. However, more energy in the climate system indicates stronger El Nino/La Nina ocillations in the Pacific, because, as we know, the cycle is due to the warming of waters at the equator.

More gas=more heat.
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
02:07 PM on 11/07/2011
So a phycisist who was once skeptical of climate change now believes that it is real. And the folks who paid him are not happy with his results and are criticizing him. Gee, that sounds like exactly the sort of behavior that climatologists have been accused of indulging in for the last couple of decades. I guess when the right wing authoritarians do it, it is ok.

Funny, why did Muller think, in his pre-enlightenment days, that global warming was not real? Perhaps he believed the politicized rubbish put out all over the web by the fossil fuel industry?
Perhaps he thought that there was no relationship to the fact that the theft of emails known as climategate was traced the worlds largest fossil fuel exporter?
Whatever. The point is that even an educated scientist can suffer from a wrong opinion before he looks at the data long and hard.
Muller looked long and hard at the data and holy craft! the global warming nuts are right! It is getting warmer!

So what will happen now? I think it is safe to predict that the fossil fuel beauties will be spitting out squid ink non stop until they have some sense of security that their beloved cash cow is safe from science.

Climate Change, like it or not, is upon us peeps. Deal with it.
11:11 AM on 11/07/2011
I was a true believer after watching "An Inconvenient Truth" for about 6 months until I looked at the facts closely.

There were 2 main arguments which convinced me.
1) The CO2 and Temperature graphs showing that they went up and down together.
2) The hockey stick graph showing that temperatures were cool for hundreds of years and shot up in modern times.

Since then I discovered both were bovine scatology.

The warming occurred 800 years before the CO2.
Warming causes CO2 to come out of the oceans but there is no measurement if this CO2 causing further warming. Lots of hand waving no measurements.

Since they can't tell how much warming is caused by modern CO2 with satellites going overhead how could they do it with ice cores? If they can we should get modern ice cores so we will know how much warming modern CO2 caused.

Poor old Doc Mann and his hockey stick is a low point in peer review. He used some proxies upside down multiplied data that agreed with him X 399 that which didn't agree with him X 1.
That is just a small sample of the ways he water-boarded his data to come to the conclusion he wanted all along.

It took a skeptical statistician to do the peer review right.

So you see believers can morph into skeptic when exposed to the truth.
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canuckhoser
Don't mind the man behind the curtain
12:23 PM on 11/07/2011
Since then you discovered denialist propaganda that makes you feel better, that is all your post illuminated

What the science says...
Since the hockey stick paper in 1998, there have been a number of proxy studies analysing a variety of different sources including corals, stalagmites, tree rings, boreholes and ice cores. They all confirm the original hockey stick conclusion: the 20th century is the warmest in the last 1000 years and that warming was most dramatic after 1920.

So no, the "hockey stick" graph isn't your smoking gun. Neither is your lag charge. Vostok ice cores

Do you understand the physics of carbon gases?

What happens when co2 absorbs long wave radiation?
What is the effect?

They have ruled out orbital forcing. The sun. Cosmic rays. Water vapor. Natural co2. And every other denialist myth. What? You think they haven't studied every skeptical argument? They spent billions doing so even when the science was understood to satisfy the push back...and even when 98% agree with the science. It isn't good enough

It's interesting to see anyone charge Mann with manipulating data...from those that spend their careers manipulating HIS and most other climate science data

To sum. Billions of points of data. In dozens of different fields. Tens of thousands of scientists. And it's all bovine scatology. Yet, not one has come forward to expose this fraud
But then you went to a denialist site and uncovered it yourself. Congrats. Your Darwin award awaits you.
12:58 PM on 11/07/2011
Since the hockey stick paper there have been dozens of studies using non tree ring data which confirmed the existence of the Medieval and Roman war period and the little ice age.

Proxies have been gathered from almost every continent so it was a surprise when the peer reviewers didn't make Dr Mann explain all of the contrary evidence.

As I said a low point in peer review.

"They " haven't ruled out cosmic rays at all. That is wishful thinking on your point.

The specifics of how Dr Mann manipulated the data have never been sucessfoully refuted.

Did he multiply data which confirmed the hockey stick by 390 ?

Did his software find hockey sticks in Red noise ?

The real climate scientists should have been appalled about his chicanery but instead they circled the wagons to support the phony.

I noticed that you made no effort to defend the CO2 lags temperature but still causes temperature rise scam.

Good choice !!
01:02 PM on 11/07/2011
So in summary you didn't deny that Dr Mann manipulated data. You didn't claim that we could measure the effect of CO2 in ancient warming.

Your message was that "they" have thought of everything and have looked into all possible causes of out slight warming ? Bovine scatology !
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StephenBP
What's he building in there?
01:51 PM on 11/07/2011
You proved nothing, net doctor. Let's see, you set up a straw man, then knocked him down. Then you showed your .... lack of knowledge about environmental chemistry by citing the 800 year time lag.... which, by the way was predicted by climatologists before it was found in the ice cores.

Haven't been at this long, have you?

It shows.
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banana republican
Next in line for crumbs from the King's Table
07:21 PM on 11/03/2011
I spent vacation days the last two years touring around the Great Lakes. 12,000 years ago they were covered by glaciers but the glaciers melted because of global warming. I was grateful that global warming made this possible. I guess it happens even when man isn't around to cause it. (or stop it)
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
06:46 PM on 11/04/2011
"I was grateful that global warming made this possible. I guess it happens even when man isn't around to cause it."

Human caused warming is in addition to a natural warming cycle. We're making a bad situation worse rather than better.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
12:02 AM on 11/05/2011
Yet you missed all the zebra mussells, the asian carp, the lack of endemic species, and the utter collapse of the local ecosystems.

It's almost like you were never there, and that you were just making it up as you went along.
11:53 AM on 11/03/2011
6 comments from DocSkull and still no links proving Mr. Muller is a Global Waming Skeptic. Saying you are a GWS does not make you so, a very smart man as Mr. Muller must have been writing a lot of articles regarding GW.

If a persistent guy like DocSkull cannot find any links, you can take that as pretty good proof there are none. This hole "story" looks like a Global Warming Gimmick, rather than a genuine effort to discuss real science.

Have you ever notice that Believers keep pounding even if they dont have any reply to the question or even anything sensible to say in general? As if just getting the last word proves them right?

Thats not arguing thats bullying.

I copy here the full answer Mr. Muller said in 2008:

A: Global warming. There is a consensus that global warming is real. There has not been much so far, but it’s going to get much, much worse. The thing I would tell the president is that the global warming, according to the global consensus — that’s the IPCC scientists, who won the Nobel Prize — the global warming of the future is going to come from the developing world. It’s the exploding economies of China and India and Asia that are going to be responsible for the CO2.

http://physicsandphysicists.blogspot.com/2008/11/q-with-richard-muller.html

Not much of a skeptic at least 3 years ago. Prove me wrong.
02:36 PM on 11/03/2011
Well, since I wrote this question Mr.Muller himself is with an article on Huff where he says he has been misquoted her and everywhere regarding his stance as a Climate Skeptic. He isn't - and never was one. Makes my point, and my question moot....
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
10:12 PM on 11/03/2011
"Mr.Muller himself is with an article on Huff.."

Muller is quoted, but didn't write it.

"where he says he has been misquoted her and everywhere"

The article doesn't say he was misquoted here.

"regarding his stance as a Climate Skeptic. He isn't - and never was one. Makes my point, and my question moot.... "

As I told you "There is no scientist with legitimate reasons to doubt global warming."
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
09:55 PM on 11/03/2011
"comments from DocSkull and still no links proving Mr. Muller is a Global Waming Skeptic."

Your whiny petulance is unfounded. I posted a link to a video of Muller stating his case 30 minutes after you first petulantly asked for the information. It is just one comment below this one. I've told you about it several times. I don't know why you are unable to see it.
07:49 AM on 11/04/2011
Dear Bully:

If Rush Limbaugh told you on youtube that he would look "skeptical" at Big Oils claims that there is no GW, and subsequently came to the conclusion that Big Oil was right after al - with the headline on Fox News:

"Rush Limbaugh, Global Alarmist, now says Big Oil is right"

Would you say that Rush is a Believer that has lost his faith in Global Warming and is now a "convert" as a "Denier" ....or would you check out is past creditentials on the same subject and come to the conclusion he never was a Believer in the first place.

8 comments - still no links..
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Andrew Harvey
Don't F with the Jesus
09:02 PM on 11/02/2011
Steve McIntyre has completed his analysis of the BEST climate data, in case anyone is interested.

go to: www.climateaudit.org
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
08:03 AM on 11/03/2011
McIntyre appears to unaware that John Christy and his colleague have corrected the satillite data and it shows the same pattern as other sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png

But he's got one up on Judy Curry who's pronouncement of no warming is undermined by the fact that [quoting McIntyre] "SH values in Apr 2010 come only from Antarctica and introduce a spurious low in the BEST monthly data." I'm perplexed how a supposed expert could be so completely unfamiliar with her own data set.

McIntyre has shifted position from denying 20th century global warming to denying medieval temperature reconstructions from proxies --

"Climategate is about the Hockey Stick, not instrumental temperatures. CRUTEM is only mentioned a couple of times in passing in the Climategate emails. “Hide the decline” referred to a deception by the Team regarding a proxy reconstruction, not temperature."

It is a rewriting of history since McIntyre and his fellow shills have spent YEARS complaining about heat islands, weather stations and shadowy conspiracies to jigger the numbers. The post from the day before was one such complaint about weather stations.

If he keeps to his word -- which a liar won't -- McIntyre has made the final step into obscurity since climate from a hundreds of years ago has little bearing on policies which affect his energy industry sugar daddies.

Deniers have lost, they should be quit their whining.
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Andrew Harvey
Don't F with the Jesus
01:36 AM on 11/04/2011
You're obviously afraid of him.

He's also the only person in the world that makes available all of his data and interpretations of the data.

If the IPCC had this level of transperancy, climate-gate wouldn't have happened, and we wouldn't need to continue having this debate. We could instead be debating the real unknowns, like why its warming, which is not addressed in any of these BEST papers.

BEST - Burt and Ernie's Statistical Team.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
05:56 PM on 11/02/2011
For those interested in Muller's skepticism about CRU's work can see this presentation -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQpciw8suk

And read the introduction to the BEST draft report.
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
04:37 PM on 11/03/2011
"The climate scientists deceived the public and they deceived other scientists" - Richard Muller

Sounds like a skeptic to me.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
08:41 PM on 11/03/2011
That was a pretty brash statement considering that he was two years away from knowing whether or not there had been any deception. What gets me is that he still maintains that there was good reasons to be skeptical when his own work demonstrates that he was wrong.
05:23 PM on 11/02/2011
Wrote before and asked for some links to where we can get some kind of confirmation that Mr. Muller is a skeptic. Nobody gave me a link or story where I can find something.

I can find some articles from 2003 and 04 where he agrees with McIntyre regarding Mann's hockey stick. Otherwise it dosen't says much about his opinion regarding GW.

I did find a interesting article from 2008 (yes, that's 3 years ago) where Mr. Muller clearly states:

"There is a consensus that global warming is real."

http://physicsandphysicists.blogspot.com/2008/11/q-with-richard-muller.html

Not much of a "Skeptic" to me....
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
05:33 PM on 11/02/2011
"Wrote before and asked for some links to where we can get some kind of confirmati­on that Mr. Muller is a skeptic. Nobody gave me a link or story where I can find something."

There is no scientist with legitimate reasons to doubt global warming. As I already told you Muller was skeptical about CRU's work and that you should read the BEST draft report.
07:11 AM on 11/03/2011
It would be a lot easier to discuss a subject if you read the question. I am clearly asking for some credentials regarding Mr. Muller's stand as a Skeptic. Since the article claims:
1: Muller is a long stand Skeptic.
2. He has just changed his mind.

I cannot really find any blogs or articles confirming the first claim - only an article that disproves the second claim since he already at least 3 years ago obviously believes that Global Warming is man-made.

Since you, DocSkull, have made 3 comments on my question without answering my question I can only interpret your non-replies as a diversion to make some readers believe you actually have answer anything.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
10:57 PM on 11/02/2011
Skeptic doesn't mean idiot.
10:52 AM on 11/02/2011
Look guys. This says the skeptics reports were skewed and those reports were wrong. Muller's criitcs then say he analyzed the climate skeptics wrong. Bottom line, Muller gets it and more will. Regardless or the two step here in political speak the facts are certain and scientists aren't just making stuff up. We have problems and denying them away will NOT help the situation. http://www.greenlivingguy.com/greenliving/business-giants-urge-warming-action.html Shows in 2005, business leaders got it. Get it!!!
10:16 AM on 11/02/2011
a physicist one said to me, "numbers can be tortured to say anything" this is essentially the problem with the whole debate. evidenced by a different article on the same project muller participated in.
here is that other headline "GLOBAL WARMING IS OVER, SAYS EXPERT".

its real, its over, the answer is clear, the answer is not so clear.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
01:43 PM on 11/02/2011
"a physicist one said to me, "numbers can be tortured to say anything"...."here is that other headline "GLOBAL WARMING IS OVER, SAYS EXPERT"."

You just got done saying that numbers don't mean anything, but now you want us to believe something from the numbers? If you are true to your position, then you shouldn't have any position because you are unable to believe anything.
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jimboy71
Hen Diapheron Heautoi
03:47 PM on 11/02/2011
Gibberish.
12:46 AM on 11/02/2011
The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away.

What a shame for you alarmists, these scientitists say the artic temperature trends which show warming are highly problematic.

http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2010JCLI4054.1?prevSearch=%5BAllField%3A+erroneous+arctic+temperature+trends%5D&searchHistoryKey=

Oh well, the science deniers and the church of Gaia followers all here on the HP will just ignore and deny this science.
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
01:02 AM on 11/02/2011
Exactly.

That's why the ice just isn't sure what to do.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
07:05 AM on 11/02/2011
"these scientitis­ts say the artic temperatur­e trends which show warming are highly problemati­c"

If mid- and low-tropospheric weather above arctic ice ever becomes the topic of conversation, you be sure to mention this article again.
12:38 AM on 11/02/2011
Oh my gosh! The planet has warmed by .61C over the last 150 years!!!!

That means horrible stuff will happen.

Or not.

Probably not.

Based upon the uncertainties contained in the .61C as well as the published Global Warming papers, as well as all the theories about what may or may not happen over the next 100 years. As it turns out, it is equally as possible that the planet isn't warming at all and that .61C is 'noise' and 'error'.

Naaaahhhhhh. Why let the truth get in the way of a good scare story. It is the day after halloween after all. We're all gonna die.
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ILoveFiction
That's unbelievable!
01:12 AM on 11/02/2011
Read Tom Sawyer.

You'll love it!
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
07:09 AM on 11/02/2011
"As it turns out, it is equally as possible that the planet isn't warming at all and that .61C is 'noise' and 'error'."

Actually, the BEST review of the data directly refutes that claim. It was one of their stated objectives. You also misunderstand what is meant by statistical certainty.
08:58 PM on 11/01/2011
"There is no reason now to be a skeptic about steadily increasing temperatures, Muller wrote recently in The Wall Street Journal's editorial pages, a place friendly to skeptics. Muller did not address in his research the cause of global warming."
ie does not validate any new taxes on carbon, for me the government should start with taxing other pollutants that
hinder/destroy life( batteries, nuclear, inefficient combustion's, heavy metals etc),
carbon dioxide absorption should be encouraged, but its priority is far less than other poisons that we mindlessly fill our water/air/earth ways with, mother earth is historically capable of fixing CO2 overdoses in short periods of time compared to other pollutants :)
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
11:59 PM on 11/01/2011
"does not validate any new taxes on carbon"

In the US fossil fuels are already taxed at the national, state, and local levels.
12:51 AM on 11/02/2011
Thanks, I should have stated "new taxes on carbon in Australia"
cheers from down under