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Occupy Wall Street Protesters Wrestle With Growing Security Concerns

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First Posted: 11/01/11 03:58 PM ET Updated: 11/02/11 09:17 AM ET

Protesters living in Zuccotti park are dealing with an escalating security problem, which some say could threaten the sustainability of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

There have been multiple incidents of assault, drug dealing and drug use, rape and attempted rape, according to conversations with numerous protesters. And the problem, they say, is getting worse.

In the past several weeks, the cluster of tents at the west end of the park -- the farthest section from the bustle of working groups and activity near Broadway -- has grown increasingly dangerous, many say. The sanitation team has reported finding needles in tents, and reports of crack and crystal meth use have surfaced. But the most serious concern most protesters say, is the risk of assault, especially for women and at night.

In an attempt to maintain peace and institute some measure of security, park-dwelling occupiers convened on Monday to discuss safety and security concerns. Among the issues discussed: What sorts of incidents should the police be involved with? How should the security working group -- one of nearly 80 groups to have sprung up since the movement's inception -- handle violence or theft in the park? What role should the community watch working group play? Should OWS welcome anyone who wants to join them in the park, no matter how unstable his or her behavior appears?

As with other logistical issues occupiers face, from managing the communal finances to preparing for winter, reaching consensus is a critical challenge for the movement, which tries to give every participant a voice. But safety issues also pose specific difficulties for occupiers, who want to be involved in making the community safe, but often lack any security experience.

At Monday's meeting, a member of the facilitation working group -- who had helped organize the meeting -- announced to the crowd, "We all know that safety and security concerns are growing more and more dire by the day," then laid out a proposed six-point plan to deal with individuals who pose a serious security risk.

Currently a number of working groups are already devoting themselves to safety concerns. In addition to the security group, there is a community watch that patrols the park at night, a peace council, a community alliance and a mediation team.

But disruptions abounded during Monday's meeting, illustrating a concern for many occupiers: Can the current consensus-driven decision-making process function as the group in Zuccotti grows larger.

"These people are telling you what to do!" an agitated man with a mohawk shouted out. "There are many dangerous things being spoken right now!"

The crowd was torn over how to handle the disruption. Some people wanted to hear his argument, while others shouted, "This is an example of disrespect to the community!"

Another member of the facilitation working group stepped forward, trying to calm the crowd. "We are all here because we're trying to fix a broken and violent culture that we grew up in," she said. "It's scary to be in this situation because a lot of us are new to facilitating in a stressful situation."

The police have made a handful of arrests, but many of the alleged crimes have gone unreported. Although a police presence surrounds the park, officers rarely enter it. Protesters offered dozens of explanations for what they describe as a diminishing police presence inside the park and a growing criminal element, which range from the conspiratorial to the practical.

"Our safety concerns in the park are just the same kind of stuff that the rest of New York City sees," said Daniel Zetah, 35, a member of community watch who has been living in the park for three weeks. "It's just that we're in a very small, confined, public space."

Zetah says assault is the most serious safety concern. He, like many other park dwellers, believes that security problems in the park are often exacerbated, not helped, by the police.

"We are convinced [the rise in crime] is being partly manufactured by the authorities," Zetah said. "A lot of people who have ended up in the park have said that the police told them: 'Take it to Zuccotti.' "

Many other occupants said they had heard similar stories from people in the park exhibiting anti-social and criminal behavior.

The police, meanwhile, vigorously deny that they have been encouraging anyone to go to Zuccotti. They did email a list of a number of arrests they have made since October 11, which included the arrest of a man for sexual abuse of a woman inside a sleeping bag.

"He's occupying Rikers now," wrote Paul J. Browne, Deputy Commissioner of the New York City Police Department.

Another rumor that has been circulating alleges that the drop-off bus from Rikers Island has been rerouted to deliver recently released inmates directly to Zuccotti park in an attempt to undermine the protests. A spokeswoman for the New York City Department of Correction said the city was "absolutely not busing inmates to Zuccotti Park," and added that there has been a drop-off point in lower Manhattan since mid-August, 2010.

Many in the park feel that this line of thought is a distraction, and worry that the occupiers method of addressing security concerns is not working.

"My feeling is, it doesn't matter how they're here. They're here. We have to deal with them," said Deborah Goodman, a member of community watch. "I hope we don't get mired in process."

Goodman says when she first joined the group, they offered an hour of training to new members. Goodman, a retired legal secretary, was skeptical.

"An hour is not enough time to learn how to deal with this," she said. "I love this movement, but I think that right now we are in a period of critical growing pains."

Monday's meeting was difficult, said Haywood, a community watch group member who goes by one name and has been living in the park for three and a half weeks. But he said the meeting also showed signs of progress.

"There may not have been any resolutions, but there's greater involvement now, and a lot more people are on community watch," he said. "Internal conflict -- that's how all progressive movements end up dying, right? Right now we are figuring out how we are not going to let that happen."

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Protesters living in Zuccotti park are dealing with an escalating security problem, which some say could threaten the sustainability of the Occupy Wall Street movement. There have been multiple inc...
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09:39 PM on 11/03/2011
Is there any reason not to just have 7am to 10pm protests? Would this weaken the message?
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
09:22 PM on 11/03/2011
Perhaps if the police chose to protect and serve citizens instead of the 1% this would all work out better.
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bayonet division
Choose this day whom you will serve.
03:50 AM on 11/04/2011
What are the fires in Oakland accomplishing?
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
01:35 PM on 11/04/2011
Too soon to tell. Violence bred violence, not surprising.
08:02 PM on 11/02/2011
Here's why the protestors could be squandering a chance to make history: http://bit.ly/uRnTb9

Enjoy the slides of protest signs.
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scythus
*sigh* because they don't let it trickle down.....
07:35 PM on 11/02/2011
I have been accused of being a cynic from time to time but I find it rather odd that this crime wave happened shortly after they were caught using batons and pepper spray on non violent protesters. Perhaps it's just me but it does look like a convienent way to get everyone out of the park or spark enough violence to "justify stern measures"...some things are a little to coincidental to be a coincidence you know?
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Raglimidechi
standing on fishes
06:23 PM on 11/02/2011
Looks like protesters are going to have to spend time reinventing the wheel. They'd be well advised to pack it in each evening and reappear at the crack of dawn. Donors could contribute housing vouchers for those who need help.
06:18 PM on 11/02/2011
I suppose it would be rediculous to ask for police protection. These are, of course, mostly people sent in to disrupt the movement through intimidation, and they are supported by those who control the police. That's called democratic society in America today.
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Jesster
01:59 AM on 11/03/2011
sigh :)
06:00 PM on 11/02/2011
This is the typical end of most utopian fantasies of the left. Most of the hippie communes of the 60's ended in squalor and abuse of the weaker by the stronger. Hobbes and Locke were a lot more accurate than Rousseau.
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Jesster
02:09 AM on 11/03/2011
I think I mostly agree with your premise - EXCEPT that I don't know how you conclude that OWS is UTOPIAN!

What is being asked here doesn't even really qualify as idealistic!

Reinstating safeguard like Glass-Steagall, some common sense banking/financial reforms and accountablity (plus prosecuting corporate malfaesance and criminality - would amount to little modest Reforms.

Many of us see these relatively modest gestures of decency as a starting point for a fairer, healthier and more vibrant society AND economy. Yes, really. But the basic reforms that set this movement into visible motion cannot be called a "utopian fantasy" by any stretch of the imagination.
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05:49 PM on 11/02/2011
They're waiting for the next OWS inspired crime wave.
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JennyHatch
in my Kitchen...
04:25 PM on 11/02/2011
Praying for the safety and security of the naive.
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califson
Love my country, ashamed of my government
03:33 PM on 11/02/2011
Assalts, rape, theft, filth, drugs, and violence............None of which happened at the Tea Party rallies...Even if the news is not covering it all, some of the problems are leaking out. So when will the left take responsibility and stop their support of criminals?...
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05:50 PM on 11/02/2011
crime went up and it is not even covered by HufPo.
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Rodger leMonde
I call them as I see them.
09:05 PM on 11/03/2011
The Tea party was not all that attractive.
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bayonet division
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03:51 AM on 11/04/2011
Where was the Tea Party crime wave?
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glassjaw
03:28 PM on 11/02/2011
its been reported that the ACORN entity in NY ( renamed but the fraud is the same ) is paying people $10 per hour or $100 per day to be Occupanters
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boehnerstan
anti establishment is SO in
05:12 PM on 11/02/2011
Reported by whom? Sean Hannity and FOX? Spare us the rumor mongering.
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Jesster
02:20 AM on 11/03/2011
Thanks for putting it politely - I was about to say something I might (kind of) regret...
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Cincy Dad
03:22 PM on 11/02/2011
Here's the line I got a laugh out of:

"Should OWS welcome anyone who wants to join them in the park, no matter how unstable his or her behavior appears?"

Let me get this right. The police aren't allowed to kick protesters out of the park, but OWS can? Whatever happened to the 1st admendment right to protest? Are liberals so used to applying double standards to everything that they can't even see their own hypocricy?
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ceciljoy
03:34 PM on 11/02/2011
Nice spin, joking! Your spin sucks. As I thought, cops are directing the dregs they'd normally be rounding up and throwing in jail to head down to the park and hang out with the protestors, these dregs are committing crimes against the protestors, looks like the cops are letting it happen so if the cops aint going to do anything about it the protestors will.
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Tquin
05:06 PM on 11/02/2011
Sure, the protestors are such feeling people. Don't want to feed the hungry and don't want those beneath them to enter. WOW!
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Tquin
05:09 PM on 11/02/2011
So, protestors have the money now but don't want to feed the hungry.
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IOKIYANO
03:16 PM on 11/02/2011
I hope they make it. Odds are against them in any large city, especially NY. Even if the police aren't rounding up all the miscreants and sending them to the park (quite a brilliant strategy), certainly a fair amount of society's edge dwellers are going to be drawn to the crowd, the excitement, the easy prey, and the free meals.

Any way it goes, this could be the most amazing reality show ever. I hope someone good is making a documentary on this experiment in on-the-fly self government. People are going to learn a lot.
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bayonet division
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03:53 AM on 11/04/2011
Yes, they are; "avoid concentrated groups of leftists".
RightRealDeal
Keep The Change
03:03 PM on 11/02/2011
ShantyTown must be out of control with crime.
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JPMac
02:15 PM on 11/02/2011
Didn't Joe Biden say this wouldn't happen if we passed Obamas jobs bill!!!!??? Pass that Bill!!

What a joke!!!!!