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Palestinian UNESCO Bid May Pit Pro-Israel Lobbyists Against Hollywood

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First Posted: 11/02/11 02:49 PM ET Updated: 11/03/11 02:36 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Pro-Israel interests on Capitol Hill may be about to run afoul of the nearly equally powerful lobbyists of Hollywood and Silicon Valley, if a decades-old law prompts the U.S. to defund a major international organization over Palestinian recognition.

The law, passed more than twenty years ago, compels Congress to defund any United Nations organization that admits Palestine as a member, a seemingly perfunctory measure until last week, when the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) voted to admit the Palestinian Authority.

The State Department, saying it was beholden to the dictates of the law, announced immediately that a $60 million payment to UNESCO -- part of an American aid package that composes nearly a quarter of the group's budget -- would be halted.

"We obviously have to comply with U.S. law, we have to comply with legislative restrictions," State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland told reporters on Monday.

Now, with the Palestinians pledging to seek admission to more than a dozen other U.N. bodies -- en route, they hope, to full membership and recognition as a nation -- the State Department and others are scrambling to assess the consequences of a similar withdrawal from well-known UN groups like the International Atomic Energy Agency and the World Health Organization.

But the end of U.S. involvement in one lesser-known UN body, the World Intellectual Property Organization, may pose the most direct consequences for American business interests. If the U.S. is forced to stop funding the group, it would open the door to a possible contest for the attention of lawmakers between the pro-Israel and Silicon Valley lobbies.

WIPO hosts forums for the negotiation of international treaties on copyright protection. It is an essential outlet for Hollywood and Silicon Valley businesses seeking to prevent infringement in the developing world, such as from those who pirate DVDs in China and elsewhere.

The consequences of a diminished US presence in WIPO could be devastating, experts on intellectual property law predict.

"You're trying to engage developing and developed countries in enhancing intellectual property protections where there are already barriers to your success," said Suzanne Stoll, the former WIPO representative in Washington and now COO of the IP lobbying firm Raben Group. "Now you add that you can't vote in the annual governing bodies as the result of a 20-year-old legislative provision involving Palestine. It’s not a good position for the U.S government to be in. You have to anticipate some diminution of your influence in that body. There are always people and interests and nations waiting to fill a void there."

The State Department has said it recognizes these consequences, and is looking for a way to work around them. Yet it has also indicated they cannot see a way forward without new legislation.

"Not paying our dues into these organizations could severely restrict and reduce our ability to influence them, our ability to act within them," the spokesman Nuland said Monday, in discussing a possible "cascade" effect of defunding. "We think this affects U.S. interests, so we need to have conversations with Congress about what options might be available to protect our interests."

In a meeting at the State Department on Monday, Assistant Secretary of State Esther Brimmer told representatives of the copyright interests that the department was still assessing the possible impact of defunding WIPO. Yet in the meeting, she also downplayed some of the consequences of such an action, said Jesse Feder, the director of international trade and intellectual property for the IP trade group Business Software Alliance.

"I wouldn't say they're trying to find a way around it," Feder said. "What they're trying to do is be transparent with us about something that affects our interests. They are still in a mode of figuring out what all of this means because it's all happening in real time."

State Department officials also pointed out in the meeting that even a non-voting member can chair important committees, Feder said.

But experts say that if a country does not pay dues to the group for two years it will lose its right to vote -- and may end up with diminished ability to influence the votes of others.

"Having worked with WIPO through the years, you try to influence the outcome through whatever means you have -- model legislation, enforcement, carrot sticks," says Robert Raben, an IP lobbyist with the Raben Group. "Being required to withdraw money from the enterprise does two things: your friends who agree with you question your logic and propriety, and your opponents who disagree with you -- China, for instance -- have a fantastic new tool to disingenuously oppose you."

Few congressional observers and lobbying groups see much interest on the Hill for a legislative fix.

"Members aren’t going to vote against Israel –- and that’s how a vote to negate the provision is going to look," said Stoll. "Which is steeped in irony, since the two issues –- IP protection for US inventors and businesses and the state of play in the Middle East -– are completely unrelated."

"At this point in time I am not aware of any groundswell for a lobbying effort like that," said BSA's Feder. "We need to see how things play out. We don't even know for a fact that things are going to come to a head in WIPO."

Spokesmen for Microsoft, Google, and the Motion Picture Association of America, all of whom have been in consultations with the State Department in recent days, declined to comment on any possible lobbying efforts.

In an interview on Monday, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a strong defender of the cuts to UNESCO and other international commissions with memberships he views as distasteful, told The Huffington Post that he wasn't particularly worried about the fallout from possibly having to defund a dozen more organizations.

"There's always a chance that it goes too far," he said. "They all deserve consideration. The priority is, is it in the United States's interests or not. It certainly is in the case of UNESCO, where I fully support defunding it."

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WASHINGTON -- Pro-Israel interests on Capitol Hill may be about to run afoul of the nearly equally powerful lobbyists of Hollywood and Silicon Valley, if a decades-old law prompts the U.S. to defund a...
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08:07 PM on 11/10/2011
UNESCO should just slash employee salaries and perks by 25% that should make up the shortfall. Not sure why this is news they should have known the rules on the books before voting the way they did. If UNESCO had no clue how they're biggest benefactor would react...time for some management!!!
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01:55 PM on 11/07/2011
Corrected Links From Earlier Reply To MisteRationale:

The Difference Between How the Sides Fight:

http://markhumphrys.com/Bitmaps/palestinian.way.of.war.gif

Why America Aids and Supports Israel:

http://www­.israel21c­.org/opini­on/us-reap­s-mutual-b­enefit-of-­aid-to-isr­ael

http://doc­stalk.blog­spot.com/2­010/10/ben­efits-of-u­s-aid-to-i­srael-exce­ed_29.html

http://www­.factsandl­ogic.org/a­d_02c.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZrUgjHcCEKEC&pg=PA129&lpg=PA129&dq=36+billion+dollar+bargain+organski&source=bl&ots=jrbDnxl-Ad&sig=VHQi1EiP3RgRzzwaEcGrLYszPUI&hl=en&ei=Hxm4TrmlDYjE2QXin_XMDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false
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01:00 PM on 11/07/2011
PA media, school books use ‘systematic indoctrination’ that teaches hate and a false narrative, making any future peace agreement impossible:

http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=219468&R=R3
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12:58 PM on 11/07/2011
Does This Meet Unesco Standards For Textbooks? Probably!

PA Teaches 5-Year-Olds to Die for Allah
PA kindergarten teaches children to die fighting Israel in the name of Islam. Class play involves soldiers, death.
By Maayana Miskin
8/16/2011, 7:54 PM

A Palestinian Authority kindergarten showed off what its young students had learned over the past year by having the five-year-olds act out scenes of terror and death for their families. The parents were moved to tears upon seeing their children pretend to die as “martyrs,” Palestinian Media Watch reported reported.

During the graduation ceremony two plays were performed – one based on “Little Red Riding Hood,” the second, “The Martyr's Wedding,” a story glorifying death in battle with Israel for the sake of Islam.

“Another performance named 'The Martyr's Wedding' delighted the audience due to the role-play of the children, whose acting depicted the reality of roadblocks, children, occupation, soldiers, and the children's death as Martyrs,” wrote the PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, in a report picked up and translated by Palestinian Media Watch.

The performance was accompanied by “nationalistic” songs, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida reported. Many such songs encourage “martyrdom” and bloodshed for the sake of “freeing the land of Palestine” - a land which, according to the PA, includes all of Israel.
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09:49 AM on 11/05/2011
Moderator, would you mind following HP Guidelines in deciding whether a comment should be allowed to stand, rather than your own personal views? Thank You!
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MisteRational
01:54 AM on 11/05/2011
I love Israel and we should do all we can to protect it's interests.
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MisteRational
01:52 AM on 11/05/2011
Jeez Huffpost moderators, a little rabid about preventing any criticism of Israel?
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MisteRational
01:50 AM on 11/05/2011
Sure, let's let the Pro-Israel lobby dictate all our foreign policy. Let the tail wag the dog.
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09:50 AM on 11/05/2011
Yeah, it sucks that your racist garbage sits up here and I can't reply to it.
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MisteRational
02:25 PM on 11/05/2011
So..by criticizing Israel;s expansionist, oppressive policies regarding "settlements" I am a a racist? Looks to me like you did reply to it...rather ignorantly I might add. Name calling is always an excellent way to foment intelligent and productive dialogue. Instead of educating, you choose do bring discussion down to a childish level of name calling. You are doing wonders to garner support for a questionable policy. Well done.
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MisteRational
01:38 AM on 11/05/2011
Zero tolerance doesn't make anymore sense in foreign policy than it does in the drug war. And it is about as effective.
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03:51 PM on 11/05/2011
MR, I have made several replies to you. They don't show up and they're not in the cue. Then a few of them sometimes appear hours later. I don't know if it's a technical or moderation issue, but I have tried to reach common ground with you. The way this board is laid out and the 'hit or miss' results with comments makes discussion nearly impossible in here.
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MisteRational
10:31 PM on 11/06/2011
Hey Disco,. I agree, The reason you saw 6 posts in a row was that I thought they had all been moderated. The format here makes it very difficult to maintain a dialogue. I have a significantly different point of view regarding Israel. I used to be an ardent supporter but the ongoing shift to the right has put me at odds with their policies. True, any nation has a right to defend themselves but I feel that the ongoing , and heavy handed oppression of the Palestinian people has transcended simply protecting its people. let me be perfectly clear, I do NOT support any of the aggressive actions of the militants in Gaza etc, but I fear Israel has become a monster in its own right. You are obviously very pro -Israel, I respect that but I will have to agree to disagree regarding that Israel is our greatest ally. I feel they are self serving, The sudden invoking of the "rule of law" er ant organization that grants membership to the Palestinians is completely hypocritical in that it is a generally accepted fact that Israel has the bomb and yet we continue to sell them billions of dollars of arms in direct violation of US law restricting sales of weapons to nations that have nuclear weapons and are not participating in the non proliferation treaty.
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01:36 AM on 11/05/2011
Sure, let's let the pro Israel lobby determine everything we do regardless of the potential negative impact around the world.. Classic behavior in favor of the last colonial state. Let the tail wag the dog.
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10:20 AM on 11/05/2011
Yep a tiny country smaller than Rhode Island that's 11 hours away by jet is controlling the foreign policy of the world's most powerful nation.....or.....America supports Israel because it benefits America. Hmm, which is more "Rational?"
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02:19 PM on 11/05/2011
What's the difference? if the policy pursued "in America's interest" leads to a weakening of global influence, then one has to question whose actual interest that policy is in.
01:07 PM on 11/03/2011
This is obviously another political maneuver by the non-alligned movement that goes against the UN's own best interest. Palestine does not meet the criteria to become a member -- not only do their educational standards not make the grade, they actively try to convert Jewish holy sites into Muslim ones. They make selling land to a Jew -- any Jew just by virtue of being a Jew -- punishable by death. They destroyed Joseph's Tomb, Rachel's Tomb, and the ancient synagogue at Jerico, and defiled the Church of the Nativity with feces and cigarettes during the 2nd Intifada. They have often assaulted Jewish worshipers at the Western Wall by hurling rocks at them from the Temple Mount above. They refuse to recognize the ancestral Jewish connection to Jerusalem or any part of the land. They do NOTHING to protect minorities or their holy sites.
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AJ Raalte
Israel forever - warts and all.
08:45 PM on 11/03/2011
Well said, RY!

F&F
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Sonic hedgehog
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11:37 PM on 11/03/2011
"not only do their educationa­l standards not make the grade"

What are these educational standards to be met to enter UNESCO??? I wonder if lawless countries such as Somalia and Chad meet those?? How about North Korea???
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11:43 AM on 11/03/2011
The law, passed more than twenty years ago, compels Congress to defund any United Nations organization that admits Palestine as a member, a seemingly perfunctory measure until last week, when the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) voted to admit the Palestinian Authority.

SO WHO THE HECK IS RUNNING THE AMERICAN FORIEGN POLICY??? TIMES ARE ABOUT TO CHANGE FOR THE BETTER!!!!
01:15 PM on 11/03/2011
Americans are running American foreign policy. The same people who support Taiwan although it agitates China, and support South Korea even though it agitates North Korea, also support Israel even though it agitates its neighbors. AMERICANS believe in supporting lone democracies that are threatened by totalitarian states. Clearly, some people, like you, think that democracy is not worth fighting for, and that we should just cozy with dictators as long it facilitates business for US companies. THOSE DAYS ARE NUMBERED.
01:53 PM on 11/03/2011
do u hate Americans and Jews or just American Jews?
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
06:56 PM on 11/03/2011
He never mentioned Jews.
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10:55 AM on 11/03/2011
The self-destructiveness of U.S. foreign policy amazes me. We are prisoners of AIPAC and the rest of the lobby that puts perceived Israeli interests ahead of American interests. Congress and the President behave like lap dogs when Israel issues marching orders.
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Seawolf56
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11:44 AM on 11/03/2011
x2!! Time for a CHANGE! They are the 1%!
Rosin the Bow
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11:47 AM on 11/03/2011
Keep spreading those anti-Semitic myths, Saltzman. David Duke thanks you for it.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
06:57 PM on 11/03/2011
Sigh. Flagged.
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08:24 PM on 11/03/2011
It shouldn't need to be said, but criticizing Israeli policy and those that support current Israeli policy in the U.S. is not anti-semitism. And my position is held by many Jewish organizations and individuals opposed to AIPAC and the actions of Israel in perpetuating the occupation.
09:20 AM on 11/03/2011
The Palestinian Authority does not meet the UNESCO recommendations for becoming a full member in the international organization, according to a study published on Monday by IMPACT-SE – the Institute for Monitoring Peace and Cultural Tolerance in School Education.

IMPACT-SE is a research organization that monitors and analyzes schoolbooks and curricula across the Middle East with an eye toward determining their compliance with international standards on peace and tolerance, a goal derived directly from UNESCO declarations and resolutions.
Read it all:
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=243916
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lbsaltzman
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10:51 AM on 11/03/2011
As far as demonization is concerned. I suggest Israel look to itself and understand how its' behavior has resulted in its' status as a pariah state. Over sixty years of land theft and ethnic cleansing followed by a long and ugly occupation don't endure to the people you have brutalized. Why should the Palestinians like Israelis after how they have been treated?
11:16 AM on 11/03/2011
The Palestinians are their own worst enemies along with their Arab brethren. Everything you blame on the Israelis can be blamed on the Arabs. The Arabs are not the perennial victims you portray them to be. Four wars, 2 intifadas and countless terror attacks and rockets has resulted in thousands killed an maimed on both sides as a result of the Arab/Muslim/Palestinian refusal to make peace. You just want to blame everything on the Israelis. Israel can't make peace without a partner and that partner is not the Abbas or Hamas.
01:34 PM on 11/03/2011
Tell me, will the displaced/ethnically cleansed Jews from Arab countries be allowed to return? How silly of me! There are no displaced Jews from Arab countries because Israel took them in after the Arab/Israeli war in 1948. (800000-1million). The only reason there were displaced Arabs is that the Arab nations refused to take in Arab refugees from Israel so that they could be used as a political tool
The only thing the Arab nations want is the destruction of Israel.
So tiny Israel can take in Jews who want to return to Israel and also Palestinians who presently live under a Fatah Constitution that calls for the destruction of Israel? Now Israel would have to be suicidal to agree to this.
Being intellectually honest would be to admit the betrayal by Arab nations of their own people. It's time for the world to lay responsibility for the plight of the Palestinians where it belongs, at the feet of these Arab nations rather than using them as an excuse to call for the annihilation of Israel. Then we can talk about a two-state solution.”
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Sonic hedgehog
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11:41 PM on 11/03/2011
I wonder if they looked at the books at North Korea??? or a lawless state called Somalia?? How about Saudi Arabia who doesn't even accept Israeli passport stem owners??
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10:28 PM on 11/02/2011
We shouldn't even be involved in this deal whatsoever.The palestinians according to everyone have finally met the demands and requiremnts set upon them for them to be in the U.N.,thats a good thing.The Israelies were all set as well to start getting on with peace talks etc and now both sides are at each others throats again.Thing is it's not the majority of either side but more fanatics from both sides that are creating the wakes here