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Super Committee Asked By 100 Lawmakers To Consider All Options To Meet Savings Goal

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ALAN FRAM   11/ 2/11 08:31 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Breaking with party orthodoxy, 40 House Republicans urged Congress' supercommittee on Wednesday to consider all options for raising revenue as they hunt for ways to trim the gargantuan $14.8 trillion national debt.

Though in a letter to the special debt-reduction panel the GOP lawmakers studiously avoided specific proposals that the signees admitted could shatter the group's unanimity, it seemed to at least crack the door open to the potential consideration of tax increases.

That seemed to separate the 40 Republicans from many of their GOP colleagues, who have said they would only consider new revenue generated by a stronger economy.

The GOP lawmakers joined with 60 House Democrats in the letter, which also called on the supercommittee to keep the door open for savings culled from benefit programs like Medicare, a path opposed by many Democrats. In addition, the letter said the special committee should aim for $4 trillion in 10-year savings – more than triple the panel's mandated minimum target of $1.2 trillion.

At a news conference and in separate interviews Wednesday, Republican participants shied away from expressing an unconditional willingness to accept tax increases as part of a final deal.

Even so, the letter's bipartisan, conciliatory tone contrasted with the political atmosphere in Washington that has buffeted the supercommittee, which has made little evident headway just three weeks from the deadline for completing its work.

"To succeed, all options for mandatory and discretionary spending and revenues must be on the table," the letter said. "In addition, we know from other bipartisan frameworks that a target of some $4 trillion in deficit reduction is necessary to stabilize our debt as a share of the economy and assure America's fiscal well-being."

The signers comprised about 1 in 6 House Republicans and nearly a third of its Democrats – hardly the kind of numbers that typically force difficult decisions in Washington. Even so, participants said they believed many other lawmakers also supported a large package with savings from both spending cuts and new revenues, and expressed hope that a letter signed by 100 of the House's 435 members would have clout.

"When this big deal comes out, any member can find 10, 20, 30 reasons to say `No,'" said Rep. Steven LaTourette, R-Ohio, one of the signers. "It's now a time for the ostriches to pull their heads out of the sand, the holier than thou crowd to get off their horses, the sacred cows need to be made into hamburger."

So far, the 12-member supercommittee – six Republicans and six Democrats – has faced a dilemma in which Democrats demand higher taxes as their price for accepting significant savings from benefit programs such as Medicare, while Republicans oppose revenue increases and insist on trimming benefit programs.

Bipartisan budget experts have urged the committee to produce at least $4 trillion in savings. They say doing less would not significantly alter the potential long-term financial nightmare the government faces, in which red ink continues growing faster than the U.S. economy.

"Our country needs our honest, bipartisan judgment and our political courage. Your committee has been given a unique opportunity and authority to act. We are prepared to support you in this effort," the letter states.

The list of signers includes many moderates from both parties. But it also in includes conservatives such as presidential candidate Ron Paul, R-Texas, No. 2 House Democratic leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and liberals such as Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who chairs the Congressional Black Caucus. It was organized by Reps. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., and Mike Simpson, R-Idaho.

"We all know you can't get to that kind of number by just looking at one side of the equation or the other," Simpson said of a significant debt-cutting deal.

"I'll give up my election, I'll give up my seat" in exchange for an agreement that helps the country's fiscal future, Shuler said.

In an interview, conservative Rep. Cynthia Lummis, R-Wyo., a signer who has had tea party support, said that while she would prefer to reduce the debt without raising taxes, "This is not an ideal world." She said the national debt is a problem both parties have created and must solve, and said she is not "an absolute `hell no' person when it comes to considering all options."

Like all but three of the 40 GOP signatories, Lummis has also signed the pledge by anti-tax activist Grover Norquist to oppose tax increases. Lummis said she did so when she was first elected in 2008, but did not sign it last year.

"Grover Norquist is not in my district," she said. "I represent the state of Wyoming and its people."

Norquist did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Democratic participants said it made sense for them to sign a letter opening the door to paring programs like Medicare, which are often called entitlements.

"Those of us who are the strongest supporters of entitlement programs have to be at the table to guarantee sustainability," Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vt., said in an interview. "If we stand on the sidelines, those programs will be in enormous jeopardy."

The committee faces a Nov. 23 deadline for proposing at least $1.2 trillion in savings over 10 years. If Congress doesn't approve such a plan by Dec. 23, $1.2 trillion in automatic cuts would start taking effect in 2013.

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Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction: http://www.deficitreduction.gov/public

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WASHINGTON — Breaking with party orthodoxy, 40 House Republicans urged Congress' supercommittee on Wednesday to consider all options for raising revenue as they hunt for ways to trim the gargant...
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Hannalee
haben sind gewesen gehabt haben geworden sein
05:30 PM on 11/04/2011
Social Security has nothing to do with our problems. Don't touch it. If Medicare is cut significantly, it'll be more pain for the middle class, more pain as usual, more sickness that they can't afford to have treated. Some people will be sicker and some will die. And these are the wages of death for being screwed by financial industry criminals.
08:22 AM on 11/03/2011
So, now that all options are on the table. How about a bill that will help to CREATE JOBS?
07:50 AM on 11/03/2011
"We must do everything we can to defend Social Security and protect the needs of tens of millions of working families. With this in mind, Sen. Bernie Sanders formed the Defend Social Security Caucus.

Members of the new organization already include Sens. Akaka, Blumenthal, Boxer, Sherrod Brown, Cantwell, Harkin, Lautenberg, Menendez, Merkley, Mikulski, Reed, Sanders, Schumer, Stabenow, and Whitehouse.

Please sign up to become a citizen member to show your support for Social Security and to receive e-mail updates from Sen. Sanders."

http://sanders.senate.gov/petition/?uid=36ab3bec-a656-4678-82d3-ca7c116b0ee6
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oheart
05:00 PM on 11/04/2011
Hey, thanx for the link: Fanned!
04:05 AM on 11/03/2011
Members of congress bankers on wall street the administration and the courts all played a role in tearing apart this nation and now they want to place blame on the people of this nation. Oh lets cut social security, medicare medicaid its much easier ' to many crooks within government.
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Dan1902
United we bargain,divided we beg!
02:11 AM on 11/03/2011
Poll after poll says tax the rich, end the wars,as well as saying DO NOT touch SS and Medicare or Medicaid!! That is the will of the people if they go against that will then they ALL must be voted out!!
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Imzadi
Proud Progressive for decades
06:55 AM on 11/03/2011
I heartily concur! The were elected to serve the public, not Grover.
01:54 AM on 11/03/2011
The Gang of 12 are like students taking a final exam for graduation: Their actions are the future for the next decade.
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GloriaY
12:58 AM on 11/03/2011
republicans running scared or is this a ploy? Whatever happens, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid MUST be left alone, if not Democrats who vote to make any change whatsoever, together with republicans will feel the wrath of Seniors, particularly as we know that Social Security is not broke, as republicans would have us believe.
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FreedToChoose
...lest my wife says I'm not.
11:39 PM on 11/02/2011
It takes time, but Heavens to biddle boodle... come on...
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MisterCharles
My bio is filled with liberalism
11:06 PM on 11/02/2011
If these politicians did not hear the voices of the Millions of Americans petitioning them for jobs and equality and civility, what will the voices of 100 of their fellow lawmakers cause them to do? If you keep getting the same results then you need to do something different, these career politicians need to be voted out of office and quickly.
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windy33
10:22 PM on 11/02/2011
there are over 50 million senirs and they are not push overs and they are not a line item veto. they are watching and they will be at the baoolot box in 2012. the G.O.P AND THE T-PARTY IS TOAST. BURNT TOAST
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windy33
10:20 PM on 11/02/2011
maybe some of them are starting to run scared. they know that they will be fired in 2012 for saying no. it's called insubordination. they say time and time again NO to do the job they were elected and told to do.
01:16 AM on 11/03/2011
you must be referencing the mountain of legislation held-up by the Democratically-controlled Senate.
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Imzadi
Proud Progressive for decades
06:58 AM on 11/03/2011
A Mountain of ridiculous legislation that does the public no good - and not single jobs bill to be seen. It all social/religious reengineering, and inappropriate.
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windy33
08:50 AM on 11/03/2011
and the house says no so there for it can't get to the senate.
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ylobrkrd
outoutdamnspot
01:19 AM on 11/03/2011
fired in 2012...this found poking about the web: Uh Oh...that sound you hear is the big crack in the pot. It's going to be interesting to see if any of the TPers go Capitol native.

A polling firm says that GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine is far outpacing two Tea Party Republican primary challengers in a recent poll.

In the case of Snowe, the three-term incumbent’s “prospects for winning the Republican nomination for another term as Senator from Maine are looking the best they have in two years, in what could be a sign of Tea Party fever dwindling,” said Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen in an analysis of the findings.
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windy33
08:53 AM on 11/03/2011
SNOW NEEDS TO GO. AND THEY NEED TO GET A DEM IN THERE.

the t-party people have been dwindling for quite some time. people are finally seeing them for how radical and nuts they are
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
08:59 PM on 11/02/2011
Let's default. Then when the banks come after us we will get to use all of those great weapons we have sitting around collecting dust.
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ylobrkrd
outoutdamnspot
01:19 AM on 11/03/2011
Let's sue the banks for the interest they owe us.
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Nick Lahanas
Republicans: Robin Hood in Reverse
08:51 PM on 11/02/2011
THIS JUST IN: 40 HOUSE REPUBLICANS TOSSED OUT OF NATIONAL CAUCUS.
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calloy
goo goo g' joob
08:46 PM on 11/02/2011
watch out gop! grover will getcha!!!! mmuuuhahahahahahahaa
08:06 PM on 11/02/2011
Congress could always punt and let the States deal with it. Maybe the Super Committee should just recommend something along the lines of …..
1. Abolishing the federal income tax (it’s redundant, expensive, and unnecessary)
2. Replacing it with a pro-rated flat tax that is directly levied on the States. (see below)
3. Developing an annual budget that addresses the expected Federal expenditures for the next fiscal year.
4. Determining how much of the expenditure should be covered through tax revenue.
5. Dividing that total tax revenue requirement by the number of voting members in the House of Representative. (It currently stands at 435.)
6. Determining each State’s share of the total tax revenue requirement by multiplying the total number of voting members the State is entitled to have in the House of Representatives by the value obtained in step number 5.
7. Sending a tax bill to all fifty states.
8. Letting the States collect the required revenue through any legal means they want.
9. Reduce some of the potential for the continued gaming of the tax system at the Federal level be implementing strict rules that significantly limits the ability of Congress to influence, interfere or impede a State’s legal revenue collection activities without the approval of a super majority of both houses of congress.

It is all a pipe dream but, it still sort of make you wonder how a tax system like this could change the country's governing dynamics at the Federal level.
08:21 AM on 11/03/2011
At least you are thinking out side the box and suggesting solutions.