NYC 2-Square Miles Smaller, According To Census Bureau

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First Posted: 11/03/11 05:43 PM ET Updated: 11/03/11 05:43 PM ET

New York just got a wee bit smaller.

After declaring the city's land area to be at 304.8 square miles in 2008, 17 square miles smaller than previous figures used for decades prior, the Census Bureau is challenging the Department of City Planning's number and saying New York's area to actually be 302.643 square miles.

A geographer for the Census Bureau explains the discrepancy in calculations to The New York Times:

We have made our digital data more accurate and more complete, and that has impacted the area figures in many areas. In some cases — annexations, for example — cities have gained land through legal action. In other cases, just our digital representation of what the boundary is and what area is land versus water within the boundary may have changed. This is not to say that these areas have really lost or gained land, but our digital representation has changed, therefore the numbers have changed.

So who incurred the most shrinkage? Brooklyn and Queens!

This isn't the first time the city and the Census Bureau have disagreed on number games. Earlier this year, Mayor Bloomberg questioned the bureau's estimate citing 8.175 million New Yorkers, a relatively big step down from the 8.4 million city officials recorded.

The numbers don't account for 170,000 new homes built in New York in the last decade and they improbably count just 1,300 new residents in Queens since 2000. There are not a lot of vacant homes in this city. In Queens, common sense says we didn't go up by [only] 1,000 people.

Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz said he was "flabbergasted" and that he knew the Census Bureau had made a "big, big mistake."

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New York just got a wee bit smaller. After declaring the city's land area to be at 304.8 square miles in 2008, 17 square miles smaller than previous figures used for decades prior, the Census Burea...
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11:38 PM on 11/05/2011
First of all, I own a 2 family in Queens. The downstairs portion is a duplex, that at one point the previous owner had it split as 2 apartments. We correctly filled out our forms, and I checked that my tenants correctly filled out their forms. The census bureau either called or VISITED 5 times afterwards (not kidding) to confirm that there were only 2 people living in the duplex section. It was totally annoying.
Now with the underestimate, I am not surprised. There are a lot of illegal apartments all over Queens that no owner will attest to, and there are a ton of illegal immigrants that will never say they live in Queens. So in conclusion, I agree with the legislators on this point, it is a total underestimate, but not for the reasons they can publically claim.
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Rteefact
country before profits
09:38 PM on 11/04/2011
Well they been trucking out their garbage for some time less landfill, less land.
01:09 PM on 11/04/2011
Thats not all the govt. is taking from you.
11:24 AM on 11/04/2011
Hey ... I live in Brooklyn...
And if we don't get those square miles back...
I'm gonna send the boy's over.. and then FORGETABBOUTIT...
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GirlInNYC
A girl in NYC
07:19 PM on 11/04/2011
Haha. Break a kneecap.
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kpamesa
11:21 AM on 11/04/2011
Must be all the liberal hot air that's weighing down the island....can't help but wonder how much more land mass will be lost because of all the "occupiers"?
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Kritikos
Intelligence is not a science
11:21 AM on 11/04/2011
Its just a NYbble.
10:30 AM on 11/04/2011
This is the first census that has ever been under control of the white house. Which of the 57 states has obonehead placed these extra two miles?
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filliperogers
how do you edit a empty micro-bio?
02:10 PM on 11/04/2011
57 states, really?
09:17 AM on 11/04/2011
The brain of NYers has also been shrinking. They vote democrat and they are always bankrupt.
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derealest
08:46 AM on 11/04/2011
I wonder if this affects districting????
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canoeal
Wooden Boatbuilder, Luke 6:37-38
08:32 AM on 11/04/2011
Who cares...
08:20 AM on 11/04/2011
Wait all the new protestors the count has to go up.
05:08 AM on 11/04/2011
I worked the census and it was an absolute joke. I wonder if they have yet dealt with the illegal hotel rooms we were supposed to ignore.
10:06 AM on 11/04/2011
What are illegal hotel rooms and why are you supposed to ignore them? Please reply me back, im very curious about this detail. Why do you think they "let" these hotel rooms get away?
04:54 AM on 11/04/2011
maybe a lot of people didn't participate. Maybe they have people living with them that didn't care to be counted. Lots of reasons. NY is so uptight.
05:09 AM on 11/04/2011
NY is uptight? Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:43 AM on 11/04/2011
spikedance, I've noted several replys from you thinking, that somehow, NYC is some kind of superior city...that really, the rest of the country couldn't care less about. NYC is very uptight, with a lot of rude people. Fact, get over it.
03:32 AM on 11/04/2011
He is only the Interim Mayor because Occupy runs the city now.
03:31 AM on 11/04/2011
Maybe they count people like stocks they inflate them?