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China's Shenzhou 8, Tiangong 1 Spacecraft Dock Together In Orbit Over Earth

Shenzhou 8 Tiangong 1

GILLIAN WONG   11/ 3/11 09:05 AM ET   AP

BEIJING — Two unmanned Chinese spacecraft docked successfully and were orbiting the Earth together Thursday in a step that moves China closer to manning its own space station in about a decade.

The Shenzhou 8 craft that was launched Tuesday docked with the already orbiting Tiangong 1 module, said Wu Ping, spokeswoman for China's manned space program. The assembly has orbited Earth six times, with onboard instruments working normally, she said.

The U.S. and Russia are the only other countries to master the space docking technique. It was "a milestone success and sets a sound foundation for continued missions," Wu said.

The joint assembly will fly for another 12 days doing tests, then a second docking will be followed by two days' flight. Shenzhou 8 is scheduled to return to Earth on Nov. 17, she said.

"Our aim is to try our best to perform multiple tests within one launch so as to maximize our benefits through limited launches," Wu said.

China launched its own space station program after being turned away in its repeated attempts to join the 16-nation International Space Station. That was largely on objections from the United States, which is wary of the Chinese space program's military links.

Experts see no explicit military function for the Chinese space station.

In terms of technology, the launch of the Tiangong-1 places China about where the U.S. was in the 1960s during the Gemini program. But experts say China progresses further than the U.S. did with each launch it undertakes.

Two more docking missions with the Tiangong 1 model are planned next year, one of them manned. China will set up a space lab by 2016, Wu said, and its actual station will be launched in three sections between 2020 and 2022.

All the parts of the docking mechanism and the more than 600 onboard instruments were designed and made by Chinese state-owned and private companies, she said.

President Hu Jintao praised the docking in a message from France en route to the Group of 20 economic summit. Premier Wen Jiabao and other top officials watched the docking from an aerospace center in Beijing, the official Xinhua News Agency reported.

At about 60 tons when completed, the Chinese station will be considerably smaller than the International Space Station, which is expected to continue operating through 2028.

China launched its first manned flight in 2003, joining Russia and the United States as the only countries to launch humans into orbit. The Chinese space program also calls for one day landing on the moon, possibly with astronauts.

Asked by a reporter what real benefits the Chinese government's investment in its space program brought to ordinary citizens, Wu said "It's fair to say that aerospace technology is closely linked to the everyday life of the people."

She said the benefits of past space travel ranged from the use of satellites for navigating in cars and television broadcasting to the designs of diapers for babies and the freeze-drying of ingredients used in instant noodles.

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DAE
12:05 PM on 11/05/2011
All the yapping about China "stealing" our technology is sour grapes. Where would our auto industry be if we hadn't stolen Japanese automotive technology in the 1980s and 90s or our aerospace industry without the German jet and missile technology from WW2? Having the ability to learn and successfully implement technological advances from other countries is how we advance as a species. The fact that China has successfully done so is a feat in and of itself.
09:09 PM on 11/04/2011
Space program in China is cheap because we have no shuttle system. That's the big money drain, sending groceries up there all the time. Hopefully China will find a cheaper form of propulsion and propel us into a real space age.
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04:40 AM on 11/04/2011
I have read estimates purporting to be from the US military, stating that at some point between 2030 and 2050 China will surpass the USA in just about every measurable yardstick.

With four times our population, and a hard working population that puts a higher premium on education than we do, it should come as no surprise that China is on the road to being the number one economic power on the planet. It is a truism that military power follows economic power, so we can expect them to dominate in that area as well, at some point in the not so distant future.
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Amalek
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07:01 AM on 11/04/2011
I doubt it takes that long. Some reputable forecasters have their economy taking the #1 slot in 2016. The world can only hope that China uses its power more responsibly than the US has in the last decade. We started too many wars and backed the wrong guys too many times.
01:02 PM on 11/05/2011
Great observation, you got my second!!
01:04 PM on 11/05/2011
Great observation, I second.
07:00 PM on 11/03/2011
Besides a lot of good mechanical engineering this docking procedure was done automatically and not remotely controlled from base. This indicates the high level of programming sophistication on the part of the Chinese engineers.
Also, while the ESA, Japan, Russia and the USA have docking modules for the International Space station, can anyone confirm whether the Japanese and the Americans automatically dock their modules? I know the Russians have an automatic system and the Euriopeans as well as with their ATV. It's only because there have been many commentators that have said the Americans require their astronauts to manually control the docking procedure? If the latter is the case, then while that may be a credit to the skills of the American space crews and the manoeverability of the various US space modules, that should really be part of a fall-back solution.
08:27 PM on 11/03/2011
Good question. The Space Shuttle did not have autonomous rendezvous and docking capability. During the rendezvous phase, the flight computers could use the Ku-band communications antenna as a radar transceiver to track the ISS. The computers could also calculate 3-axis accelerations for a closing trajectory at any given future moment in time. But it could not calculate the appropriate times to execute those course correction burns, nor could it script a sequence of burns in advance. Each burn had to be targeted, calculated, and executed via flight crew inputs on the computer keypads. The final approach from 600 feet was flown in full manual mode using the translational and rotational hand controllers. The Japanese HTV uses automated rendezvous to within 10 meters of the ISS. Then the ISS crew uses the robotic arm to grapple the HTV and berth it to the station. The American SpaceX Dragon and Orbital Cygnus cargo transports will operate very similarly to HTV, although the passenger version of Dragon will have fully automated docking. The Boeing CST-100 and SNC Dream Chaser passenger transports will also have fully automated docking. However, all of these passenger transports will have manual controls which override the automated guidance if necessary. As you correctly noted, the European ATV and Russian Progress cargo transports have fully automated docking.
02:31 PM on 11/03/2011
It is rather amazing what the Chicoms did with so little. Their entire space program's cumulative cost today is lower than NASA's budget for 1 single year.

There's some advantage in graduating 6 million a year, half of them scientists and engineers.
03:31 PM on 11/03/2011
When you compare the Chinese space program to that of SpaceX, the American aerospace startup, you'll find that NASA is the phenomenally expensive outlier rather than the Chinese being remarkably economical. The truly amazing feat is how NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center has done so little with so much and yet continues to draw increasingly large percentages of the overall NASA budget allocation. SpaceX developed two new launch vehicles, five new rocket engines, two new launch complexes, and a new reusable spacecraft and launched four consecutive successful missions for the same amount of money that MSFC paid to build a fixed umbilical tower for a completely unnecessary rocket that was promptly cancelled after going wildly over budget. Due to gross program mismanagement, the cost of the James Webb Space Telescope (designed to peer farther and earlier into the universe than Hubble) has ballooned to $8.8B, which exceeds the cost of a new Ford-class nuclear-powered naval aircraft supercarrier! NASA management is terrible. As a space enthusiast I think it's a great tragedy that NASA has accomplished so little with the great wealth of human and economic capital at its disposal. As soon as NASA barely cracked open the door for independently-managed commercial enterprises to sell goods and services to NASA, we got this huge explosion of progress from SpaceX that provides a glimpse into how much potential we actually have trapped in a broken system.
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04:43 AM on 11/04/2011
That's depressing.
09:00 PM on 11/03/2011
You know, made in china.
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Amalek
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07:02 AM on 11/04/2011
Like everything else.
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JBS
Part time misanthrope & full time curmudgeon
02:03 PM on 11/03/2011
April 12, 2011 marked the 50th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin's first flight into orbit.

Compare the progress in manned space-flight since that flight with the advances in aviation made before the Wright Brothers 50th anniversary on Dec 17, 1953.

The first commercial passenger airline was operating within 10 years of the Wright Brothers first flight.

The first INTERNATIONAL airline began scheduled service in 1919 - what became known as the First World War kinda' got in the way. But, within a year of the end of that war, there were 15 commercial, scheduled passenger carrying airlines.

The 1920s and 1930s were the golden age of aviation, much of it a result of NASA's predecessor the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) research and US Government subsidies to the emerging commercial aviation community.

Why has there been no comparable push to develop commercial space technology?
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DXM
An extreme moderate
02:11 PM on 11/03/2011
Why? It's simple: Building and operating spacecraft is MUCH more expensive and difficult than building and operating aircraft. The extreme requirements of spaceflight (where the temperatures, pressures, speeds and amount of energy required are orders of magnitude greater than air flight) still push the bounds of our technology even after over a half a century.
02:35 PM on 11/03/2011
Yep. It's the cost. It's why I don't really see a lot of hope in the private spaceflight companies. SpaceX is neat, but what are they going to do when they realize just how expensive flying regular space missions is going to be? Sure, they can recoup some costs by launching satellites, but I don't think that it will be enough. Governments are still the only organizations at this point that seem to be able to shoulder the costs without an equal and immediate return on investment... Until someone can figure out a MUCH cheaper way to break out of Earth's Gravity well, commercial space flight is sadly just a dream...
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Amalek
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07:03 AM on 11/04/2011
And a lot less demand. There were plenty of reasons to want to get around this planet faster. Fewer reasons to leave it.
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04:48 AM on 11/04/2011
I spent a lot of time listening to the tales of a pilot who went barnstorming after WW I, and who started up an airline. He was able to buy surplus planes left over from The Great War. Not too many surplus spacecraft that can purchased for a few dollars and then flown into the vacuum of outer space.
01:46 PM on 11/03/2011
[ Begging for helps ] Complaint about Human Rights Violations by IBM China on Centennial

Please Google:

Tragedy of Labor Rights Repression in IBM China
or
How Much IBM Can Get Away with is the Responsibility of the Media
or
IBM detained mother of ex-employee on the day of centennial
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Amalek
Highly decorated HP warrior
07:07 AM on 11/04/2011
I tried that, but all I find are your posts on this on a dozen other blogs. No news stories.
07:23 AM on 11/04/2011
I only own 1~2 blogs. IBM China is using its influence to block or suppress medias, even legal systems on this land which I can prove.

Those blogs are translations from reports originated in Chinese. As a HPer, you can easily find a Chinese colleague and verify my translations. Moreover, there are 2 reports from an Indian.

thanks!
01:28 PM on 11/03/2011
Good thing Clinton allowed Loral space to sell restricted information to China in exchange for campaign money or China would be years behind on their rocketry program
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beckjr2000
been there done that & tired of it
01:58 PM on 11/03/2011
Those Missile Guidance Systems made all this possible!
02:16 PM on 11/03/2011
Exactly, prior to the sale all they had were very expensive fireworks.
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DXM
An extreme moderate
02:12 PM on 11/03/2011
Never mind all of the manufacturing technology that has been given to, bought by or stolen by the Chinese over the past quarter of a century.
02:18 PM on 11/03/2011
I agree with you, if you think US corporations have no scruples, the Chinese put them in the shade.
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Oregon Mick
No bread? Let them eat micro-bio!
01:11 PM on 11/03/2011
China marches forward and the US continues to suck wind. We're running out of things to fall behind in.
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DXM
An extreme moderate
02:19 PM on 11/03/2011
Despite perceptions to the contrary, the US is still leaps and bounds beyond the Chinese in most aspects of space technology. The first Chinese docking in space recreates what was accomplished in 1966 by the US (with the docking of the manned Gemini 8 with an unmanned Agena stage) and in 1967 by the former USSR (with the docking of the unmanned Soyuz prototypes, Kosmos 186 and 188). Forgive me if my math is a bit off but that still gives us a *45 YEAR* lead over China in manned spaceflight development.
02:43 PM on 11/03/2011
This is true... for now. I'm just happy someone, anyone, is actually trying to do something big and bold in space. NASA is claiming all sorts of manned missions, but it's the Chinese and the Russians that actually have the viable vehicles right now.

Without a cold war to motivate the US we treat Space like an afterthought with the next US led mission being unknown. We aren't even planning on a test firing of the new SLS engines until 2013...I just hope that embarrassment will motivate us to get serious again.
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Oregon Mick
No bread? Let them eat micro-bio!
02:56 PM on 11/03/2011
Oh, I see, and the longer we stand still the further out front we'll get. Good plan.
No it isn't, science and technology are fast changing fields. You don't get a 45 years headstart where you can rest on your laurels. You lose you edge when the people who did the work retire IF they are not replaced by a new generation of trained workers. The government is aware of this and has been having meettings to discuss what to do. They don't have the money to train a new crop of engineers and scientists and the average age of the crop they have is in the high 50's. We have already lost the ablity to go to th Moon, but we are losing much more as well. We are falling behind in everything. When I started all serious test equipment was made in the USA, much in Oregon, now it comes from Canada and France. Just as an example.
01:04 PM on 11/03/2011
SpaceX, a U.S. aerospace startup, has delivered their first full-spec Dragon cargo transport spacecraft to their vehicle integration hangar at Launch Complex 40 on Cape Canaveral, where it will be mated to a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket. In 2008, the SpaceX Falcon 1 became the first privately-developed launch vehicle to successfully reach orbit. In 2010, a demo version of Dragon became the first commercial spacecraft to successfully reenter the atmosphere and return intact from orbit. On this next mission, scheduled to launch Dec 18, SpaceX will be attempting the first orbital rendezvous and berthing of the Dragon spacecraft to the International Space Station. The reusable Dragon spacecraft is designed to carry 6 tons of cargo to the ISS per flight. Dragon has also been designed from the start with human passengers in mind. The most significant feature needed to accommodate human passengers is the integrated launch abort propulsion system, whose innovative design has already been approved by NASA. This system will blast the spacecraft away from the launch vehicle should there be a failure either on the pad or at any time during ascent to orbit. In the future, the same propulsion system will be used for vertical soft landing on earth (or mars!) without parachutes, much like the Apollo lunar landers. Here is a video of Dragon arriving at the Cape: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7DjlVddRs And here is a recap of the Dragon demo flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGR_CnH9dYU
12:43 PM on 11/03/2011
China now assumes leadership in space, while republicans spend their time trying to figure out how to shrink America.
01:19 PM on 11/03/2011
Private industry is making huge strides, let NASA do science and let corporations provide the platforms.
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Amalek
Highly decorated HP warrior
07:05 AM on 11/04/2011
yeah right. Feed the military industrial complex. But let China take over space.
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beckjr2000
been there done that & tired of it
02:01 PM on 11/03/2011
Now tell us all about the "Great Pumpkin"!
12:41 PM on 11/03/2011
Can they get a man to Mars by 2030 (Projected date for USA)?
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JBS
Part time misanthrope & full time curmudgeon
12:47 PM on 11/03/2011
If we don't get the lead out, we're not going to make it by then either.
01:19 PM on 11/03/2011
Probably not, because the Chinese space program is very incremental. They're going to have an operational space station in earth orbit before they land on the moon, and they'll most likely want to deploy propellant depots before they go to Mars. They don't skip any steps, because they learned from our mistakes. Apollo was a developmental cul-de-sac, because we skipped the steps that were necessary to evolve that technology toward a permanent lunar outpost and then an expedition to Mars. The Chinese understand that if they proceed incrementally, with each step building on the last, then they won't get stuck like we did. We've spent 40 years wandering the desert, stuck in low earth orbit, because we rushed to the moon.
12:27 PM on 11/03/2011
First time posting here on this site,show some pictures of my hometown Beijing.
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Wall Str33t
Science is not a liberal conspiracy.
12:24 PM on 11/03/2011
Congratulations to the Chinese Space Program!
12:14 PM on 11/03/2011
space program in China is not that expensive as in US,and i think the thing surprised me the most is not the docking,it is the fact that the average age of the research team for this space program is less than 30 years old,that's amazing.
07:45 PM on 11/03/2011
Not to mention their kid brothers and sisters coming up as well. China to 2025 will continue to grow her economy, abeit at a slower pace, before demographics get in the way. And if China's domestic economy is then big enough she may be able to then coast and perhaps go upmarket as Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan before her. There is also nothing to stop the Chinese government fine-tuning their policy about children but at that stage, as the Singapore government has found out, "You can take the horse to the trough but you can't make it drink"