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George Papandreou, Greek Prime Minister, Survives Critical Confidence Vote

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DEREK GATOPOULOS and ELENA BECATOROS   11/ 4/11 09:16 PM ET   AP

ATHENS, Greece — Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou survived a confidence vote early Saturday, calming a vicious revolt in his Socialist party with an emotional pledge to step aside if necessary and seek a cross-party government lasting four months to safeguard a new European debt agreement.

Papandreou won the critical parliamentary confidence motion 153-145 after a week of drama in Athens that horrified Greece's European partners, spooked global markets and overshadowed the Group of 20 summit in the French resort of Cannes.

The threat of a Greek default or exit from the common euro currency has worsened the continent's debt crisis, which is already struggling under bailouts for Greece, Ireland and Portugal.

Finance Minister Evangelos Venizelos, who warned that the debt-ridden country still faced "mortal danger," said the new government would last until the end of February.

But conservative opposition leader Antonis Samaras demanded immediate elections. He did not say whether he would join coalition talks, due to be formally launched later Saturday when Papandreou meets the country's president.

"The masks have fallen," Samaras said. "Mr. Papandreou has rejected our proposals in their entirety. The responsibility he bears is huge. The only solution is elections."

Midway through its four-year term, Papandreou's government came under threat after his disastrous bid this week to hold a referendum on a major new European debt agreement. The idea was swiftly scrapped Thursday after an angry response from markets and European leaders who said any popular vote in Greece would determine whether the country would keep its cherished euro membership.

They also vowed to withhold a critical euro8 billion installment of loans from an existing bailout deal that Greece needs urgently to stave off an imminent and catastrophic default.

Papandreou's shock referendum gamble, and the hostile international response, horrified many of his own party stalwarts. It prompted an open rebellion with senior socialists saying they would only back the confidence vote if he pledged to seek a cross-party coalition with a mandate to secure the new debt deal and the disbursement next bailout loan installment.

Struggling to face down the revolt, Papandreou insisted his only priority was to save the country. He insisted he was not concerned with retaining the premiership, but warned that elections now would have been "catastrophic," jeopardizing Greece's continued bailout funding, the new debt deal and the country's euro membership.

He sought the vote of confidence "to safeguard a steady course for the country – with no power vacuum, without being dragged to election," he said.

"We must proceed in an organized way. And regardless of developments, the country must be governed tomorrow without turbulence."

Several thousands supporters of Greece's Communist Party protested outside parliament just ahead of Friday's vote to demand elections, in a rally that ended peacefully.

Government officials said they were not deterred by an initial hostile response by opposition parties to the coalition offer.

"We will keep inviting (Samaras), and re-inviting him, again and again until we have a result," Agriculture Minister Costas Skandalidis said.

After seeing nearly two years of harsh austerity measures that spurred crippling strikes, violent demonstrations and street attacks against his lawmakers, Papandreou insisted the burden of painful reform could not be carried without help from opposition parties.

"We, the Socialist party deputies, carried the cross of reform ... But one group in Parliament is not enough," he said. "This great task requires sincere and broad support."

Greece has been surviving since May 2010 on a first euro110 billion bailout. But its financial crisis was so severe that a second rescue was needed as the country remained locked out of international bond markets by sky-high interest rates and facing an unsustainable national debt increase.

The new European deal, agreed on Oct. 27 after marathon negotiations, would give Greece an additional euro130 billion ($179 billion) in rescue loans and bank support. It would also see banks write off 50 percent of Greek debt, worth some euro100 billion ($138 billion). The goal is to reduce Greece's debts to the point where the country is able to handle its finances without relying on constant bailouts.

In return for bailout money, Greece was forced to embark on a punishing program of tax hikes and cuts in pensions and salaries that sent Papandreou's popularity plummeting and his majority in parliament whittled down from a comfortable 10 seats to just two.

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Associated Press writers Demetris Nellas and Nicholas Paphitis in Athens contributed to this report.

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Llib Noswad
aka: Bill, Conservative
12:21 PM on 11/05/2011
I don't know how the people of Greece reached the point of where they are at with the I'm owed, I owed, gimmie, gimmie, gimmie attitude but they are no different than the liberals in this country. Sooner or later the free lunch runs out.
03:25 PM on 11/05/2011
Except for the wealthy...for them the free lunch is permanent.
10:12 AM on 11/05/2011
I think George Papandreou made a great statement when he announced he's put the bailout to a referendum. He reasserted the importance of citizens over financial markets. Unfortunately, that wasn't a good thing for the Greek people; their last best hope for an eventual recovery - and improved governance - comes from maintaining their integration with the Eurozone and EU and swallowing a bitter austerity pill. http://sisupolitics.blogspot.com/
01:36 PM on 11/05/2011
Quote: "I think George Papandreou made a great statement when he announced he's put the bailout to a referendum­."

I don't think that giving an addict the chance to choose an overdose is a very good idea.
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Shane Mulvey
03:26 AM on 11/06/2011
I believe that a country choosing to continue with the EU's "bailout" program is certainly akin to a drug pusher demanding a higher price of his/her product.
ElCojonuo
I believe in WISDOM
09:06 AM on 11/05/2011
Was he sending a message to the Germans and the French ?
It sure looks that way.
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Sasa Milosevic
Impression without expression is depression
08:06 AM on 11/05/2011
Greeks are so hypocritical.

They have been protesting for a months destroying the Athens while others Europeans pay their debts and damages, and they again shamelessly voted the man whose economical and corrupted policy led them into economical chaos.

I do not trust them anything.

If EU did not wrote off 50% of Greek's debt, the Papandreou would not politically survive. For sure. Greeks would not forgive him. But, European finanical mercy gave him new chance in the eyes of the own people.

It seems he is not so bad politician. He found way to convince Merkel and her political company to pay last decade Greek's extravagnace from wallets of other EU citizens.

Over 63% of French are against help to Greece. I agree with them.

http://www.ouest-france.fr/actu/actuDet_-Grece.-Les-Francais-sont-contre-l-augmentation-de-l-aide_39382-2008005_actu.Htm

I am asking Greeks how would they react in situation they had to pay Portugal's or Ireland's financial debacle....
ElCojonuo
I believe in WISDOM
09:10 AM on 11/05/2011
Why do I think that a ' Milosevic ' can't be objective about the founders of Western Civilization ?
The Greeks INVENTED Politics, and they're good at it.
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Sasa Milosevic
Impression without expression is depression
09:21 AM on 11/05/2011
So what if they invented politics? Their today's politics is horrible.
The ancient Greek democracy is dead. It exists only in books of history.
The quality democratic politicans would not initiated such collapse of the own nation....

By the way, you did not read well :
I am not " Milosevic".
I am Milosevic.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
09:16 AM on 11/05/2011
Europe must accept that its policies led to the problems in Ireland and Greece. The French and German public has been misled by leaders like Merkel who seek to pass all the blame, but we should understand, we have politicians like Eric Cantor, and political commentators like Rush Limbaugh, who prize entertainment value above truth.

With European leaders who cannot be trusted, Greece should go the way of Iceland.

Reference: http://www.greekcity.com.au/content.cfm?id=6671
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06:32 AM on 11/05/2011
I recommend following Mike Whitney at CounterPunch to understand what it is happening in Europe. If I understand correctly the monetary union is inherently weak because there is no fiscal union and the ECB cannot shore the southern countries up by buying their debt by running the printing presses. Meanwhile, like our own GOP, Brussels, the IMF, etc., is demanding privatization, hair shirt belt tightening, and so forth which will put Euro-land on life support and allow the likes of the City, Wall Street and the Swiss to hoover it all up at fire sale prices. Good bye world.

At least in the US we have a fiscal union which allows places like New York to co-exist with Alabama. Europe is not likely to unite a la the USA anytime soon. Languages, culture, history will keep it separate. It is going to hurt like hell, but maybe the cure is in returning to the drachma, the lira, mark and so on. Just sayin' I don't know if that is the answer, but I don't see many other solutions other than wholesale capitulation to the banksters.

Cheers,
Jack
07:41 AM on 11/05/2011
Quote: "the ECB cannot shore the southern countries up by buying their debt by running the printing presses"

The ECB could but the Germans won't let them because they still remember what hyperinflation led to in the interwar years.

Quote: "maybe the cure is in returning to the drachma, the lira, mark and so on"

Only the German Mark would have a chance. If Greece leaves the eurozone why would anyone lend to them in drachma knowing that it will depreciate down to next to nothing? Greece's only realistic choice is accept the EU bailout and work to reduce its budget deficit or it could go the Argentinian route.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
09:19 AM on 11/05/2011
Greece must choose the best of very bad options. Exiting the European community is certainly a bad option, but the alternative is worse.
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10:33 AM on 11/05/2011
The Greeks are lashed to the Euro and cannot exert any monetary pressure on their debt. Their bonds may start to look better valued in their own currency.

Argentina seems like a most apt comparison. Did they not say adios to the IMF and recover nicely, thank you very much.

To see this clearly requires a complete change of context. Mind you I am not advocating anything. Just sayin'.

Cheers,
Jack
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BrianPK80
Wisdom is having more questions than answers.
05:46 AM on 11/05/2011
What a farce. Squeezing the heck out of Greece's population to throw another Band-AID on this hemorrhaging financial market.
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jubo
Midnight. How I love her.
05:08 AM on 11/05/2011
Thank you sir for exposing the cartel Europe is...

'Democracy'? How passé...
04:04 AM on 11/05/2011
The whole worlds economy is a ponzi scheme. One country that has no money borrowing money from another that has no money to pay interest on their own debt. Simple math dictates the whole thing is going to come down sooner or later. Who do we all owe all this money to? The "banks" who exactly..... oh yeah nothing. They loan out money that doesn't exist. They have the money because they say so. They don't actually have anything but they make "loans" then demand actual money back with interest none the less. Freaking awesome racket.
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XPat Lib
Living the quiet life in Greece
02:50 AM on 11/05/2011
Greece is indeed in big trouble but most of you posting here have no idea what you're talking about. There is no one particular reason for their current situation. It's a combination of things all coming together, a "perfect storm" if you will, that has created this: over-borrowing, personal and public debt, low productivity, corruption, tax avoidance, and the basic culture of the Mediterranean lifestyle that separates Greeks, as well as other Southern Europeans, from the Germans, Dutch, and French. You cannot make Greeks or Italians become Germans and I don't understand why anyone would want to. Why do you think so many Northern Europeans have flocked over the years to Greece every July and August? It's exactly that laid-back lifestyle, the sun and sand, and a totally different way of life from what they experience the rest of the year at home. Trying to manage a common European currency on all these countries was a mistake and poorly thought out. Greece does not have the same productivity as Germany and imports much more than it exports. When it converted to the euro prices went up but wages did not and Greece never really recovered. Like in the housing crises in the U.S. low-interest loans offered to Greece by European banks made it easy and too tempting so governments (both left and right) over-borrowed. Mismanagement and political handouts added to the problem.

You all need to get over the one-answer-cause of the problem.
05:11 AM on 11/05/2011
I like your comment. From the experiences I had (as a German!) with various cultures, there is much we can learn from the rather relaxed lifestyle in Greece. On the other hand, I think there is much Greeks can learn from us.
The Greek lifestyle is not a problem, the clientile system is.
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dutchman
Two wheels good; four wheels bad.
09:07 AM on 11/05/2011
Excellent post, neighbor!
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07:02 AM on 11/05/2011
Like most things in life, there are many factors. So in that sense, you are right. However, when something goes horribly wrong, it's prudent to look at the major factor or factors. What can't be overstated is the influence of the banking cartels, the bailouts, the pain it has caused.

The fact that most average people are hurting and the financial industry is posting record gains should tell you something.

If you get a real handle of "The Debt Game" you would see, this is how those with power keep it.
02:05 AM on 11/05/2011
Unlike Obama, Papandreou does not even have to pretend he wants the money to create jobs. He just wants the money for handouts. The whole idea is to avoid having jobs.
01:56 AM on 11/05/2011
Tough decision for Greece. Live within their means or civil war. I predict they will choose civil war. OWS would be proud. Poor Obama, this is his ideology on display for all the world to see.
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XPat Lib
Living the quiet life in Greece
02:20 AM on 11/05/2011
Hey, Joe Shmo, do they have educational services on your world? You really need to take a few classes. Nothing in your two posts above make any sense.
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MGLLC
Truth is stranger than fiction
03:48 AM on 11/05/2011
The austerity measures all over Europe is choking any growth forever. The same is starting here unless we act to stop them. Reason, the greedy banks. When the IMF loans money to a country, the country is prohibited from borrowing elsewhere. Once they have the country, interest rates skyrocket. The chances of Greece, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Belgium & Italy ever repaying their debt under such conditions is almost zero. Spain is forced to sell off their very lucrative lottery to pay interest on the debt to the IMF. The loss of the proceeds from the lottery will make it impossible for Spain to ever repay. The only growth all over Western Europe and the USA is debt. That's the basis for OWS. Austerity measures being put in place only cause economies to contract causing more unemployment, less consumption and accelerating poverty. Obama is part of the corporate oligarchy that has taken over our nation. Whoever replaces him will continue to serve the corporations, not us.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
04:41 AM on 11/05/2011
Laugh My ASSETS OFF (LMAO)! Google: Define LMAO!
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XPat Lib
Living the quiet life in Greece
05:03 AM on 11/05/2011
I think what people are really asking is for the Greek people to change their cultural mindset, which is unlike anything in Northern Europe or the U.S. This is understandable - and probably necessary - but highly unrealistic, at least in the short-term. Greeks certainly need to change the way the think and behave in many respects but expecting them to be like a German or American is a stretch.

I do agree with most of what your saying here, though. While I prefer a Liberal government the U.S. President, regardless of party, will serve the corporate interests because I believe the U.S. is controlled by the financial sector and the large corporations.
12:42 AM on 11/05/2011
This is a clear indication that the situation in Greece is hopeless. The people there just don't consider the seriousness of their situation. They are basically lazy, don't care about the havac that are causing to their neighbors and have for too long gotten a free ride.

If they can't see their way to changing their government -- Germany and others should pull out, wish them well, and be prepared to let them sink under the weight of the Greek's own warped view of social policy.
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wardropper
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01:32 AM on 11/05/2011
We in the US, on the other hand, have so totally mastered the art of hypocritical denial that "the people here just don't consider the seriousnes­s of their situation. They are basically lazy, don't care about the havac that are causing to their neighbors and have for too long gotten a free ride.

If they can't see their way to changing their government -- the rest of the world should pull out, wish them well, and be prepared to let them sink under the weight of the American's own warped view of social policy."
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01:35 AM on 11/05/2011
Never the less the banks gave Greece loans that they new Greece would most likely default on the banks would rather have real assets than worthless paper, makes me wonder if they didn't do this on purpose. Lots of pretty Greek islands, just gave them to a banker on a fraudulent loan.
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Kache
Citizens, Unite!
12:37 AM on 11/05/2011
The headline should have read George Houdini Papandreou escapes certain death.
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12:11 AM on 11/05/2011
Default on the debt, Iceland did and put a few bankers in jail for fraud in the process, Greece should do the same thing. Austrity fot the bankers.
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wardropper
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01:40 AM on 11/05/2011
Iceland did not default on the debt, but it critically analyzed what it did and what it did not owe to unscrupulous foreign interests. The Brits even used "anti-terr....." legislation to freeze Icelandic assets, leaving Icelanders with even less flexibility to sort out their catastrophic situation.
For chrissakes...
Iceland has now clarified that issue, and it will pay what it "owes", to the frightful cost of taxpayers who played no part in the high-risk banking which led to all three of the country's major banks collapsing. It is also disputed that the risks foreign investors took on their own behalf constitute any sort of debt at all to Iceland.
Their bankers, like ours, are still doing very well, but the well-educated nation has woken up, and it does not trust them one bit.
12:07 AM on 11/05/2011
It's a shame. The Greeks would have done better to revert to their own currency. I heard an economist talking about this and he referred to the Euro deal as the new form of colonialism. He's right. This is a loss for the Greek people and a win win win for the banks. As usual. Merkel stinks.
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Dahveed1
I have Flying Monkeys...
01:45 AM on 11/05/2011
I'm sure the rest of the EU is ruing the day they let the Greeks in. Had they been on they're own currency, they would have been declared bankrupt at least 4 years ago. Instead the Greeks have been living on easy street while most of their EU partners have been working twice as hard only to be saddled with the bill from the Greek retirement plan.

The loss for the Greek people you talk about is about to hit them rather hard. The party on the EU's money is ending and reality is about to set in.