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U.S. Adds 80,000 New Jobs In October As Jobless Rate Falls To 9.0 Percent

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First Posted: 11/04/11 09:31 AM ET Updated: 11/05/11 11:15 AM ET

Exactly one year from election day 2012, unemployment in America remains stuck at crisis levels, with little reason to budge.

The U.S. economy added 80,000 jobs in October, falling below economists' expectations, while the unemployment rate dipped from 9.1 to 9.0 percent, according to new data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

This report serves as the latest confirmation that, more than two years since the great recession officially ended, the labor market has essentially seen no recovery at all. For the last six months, we've averaged 90,000 new jobs each month -- just barely enough to keep up with population growth. We are treading water, economists are saying Friday, and there is no indication that an end is in sight.

"It's a very weak report," said Dean Baker, economist and co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. "We can keep going like this basically forever and never get back to full employment."

The U.S. economy still needs to regain nearly 6.5 million jobs lost during the recession -- plus some 4.6 million jobs to account for population growth.

The details inside the report don't provide much hope for the nearly 14 million unemployed Americans -- including almost 6 million who have been out of work for six months or longer -- or the nearly 8.9 million Americans underemployed in October, working part-time jobs because they are still unable find full-time employment.

Two glimmers of hope: the employment-population ratio ticked up for the fourth straight month, suggesting that more Americans are attached to the labor force -- and the unemployment rate is not dipping simply because more Americans have given up looking for work. Additionally, the number of long-term officially out of work Americans declined by 366,000 to 5.9 million, 42.4 percent of total unemployment.

But average hours and earnings remain essentially static, even as corporate productivity goes up. From June to September, workers produced more, while costing their companies less.

This trend -- which has been ongoing for decades, but has been heightened since the Great Recession -- is one critical reason why
corporate profits are at pre-recession levels, while unemployment and earnings for American workers are still in a deep hole.

"We are very gradually moving to a labor-less society," said Bernard Baumohl, chief global economist at The Economic Outlook Group. Firms, he said, "are making sure that the number of workers they have now are able to produce more if necessary. The problem is that there are going to be a lot of Americans who are going to remain unemployed for a very long time."

Job gains were concentrated in professional services, with growth also coming in leisure and hospitality, health care, and mining. Government employment continued to shrink. Manufacturing employment, once the hoped-for vanguard of recovery, remains flat.

"This can't be good news for the Obama administration," Baker said. If unemployment stays around 9 percent this time next year, he added, it will be the highest rate that any president has run for re-election under since the Great Depression.

"The one thing Obama can say is that he inherited this. And there's no doubt about that," Baker said. "Could he have done better? Should he have done better? Those will be the questions for debate."

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Exactly one year from election day 2012, unemployment in America remains stuck at crisis levels, with little reason to budge. The U.S. economy added 80,000 jobs in October, falling below economists...
Exactly one year from election day 2012, unemployment in America remains stuck at crisis levels, with little reason to budge. The U.S. economy added 80,000 jobs in October, falling below economists...
 
 
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11:04 PM on 11/07/2011
if this is so---- why am I still unemployed? please!!!!!!!
02:00 AM on 11/07/2011
Wow, the jobless rate falls to ONLY 9%. Do you know what the jobless rate was in the Soviet Union, the Evil Empire as the Alzheimer-stricket President Ronald (Star Wars) Ray Gun called it? Zero. Maybe we can take a lesson from the fallen. After all, we're trying to become a socialistic nation, too. Welfare thee well.
10:25 PM on 11/06/2011
Unemployment will continue to be a struggle combined with record numbers of people living at and below poverty level. We need to reinvent ourselves and find new opportunity and ingenuity. Things have permanently changed in jobs and it will take time to readjust. Education and creativity now is crucial
10:59 AM on 11/06/2011
The article should have said THE US ADdS 8OK PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS-WHILE THEY LOST 20K PUBLIC SECTOR JOBS.
01:29 PM on 11/06/2011
The article noted that 80,000 jobs were added. That is a net figure after 20,000 government employees were cut. Is that what you were trying to say?
02:17 PM on 11/06/2011
Yes.Thanks for saying it better than I did.
07:35 AM on 11/06/2011
This may seem like a very small number of newly employed. But it is something and President Obama is responsible for that. Compared to the amount of people that are still unemployed,this is nothing to them. The wedge in the unemployment can only be blamed on one group of people,the Republicans of the Senate and House. Their refusal to even debate anything on the jobs bill is a clear cut admission that jobs and the middle class Americans mean nothing to them. This started before George Bush ever left office and the decline of the economy was of his making. So the Republicans want to give the rich even more of a tax break,even though it has been proven that their tax break doesn't raise the economy. So the Republicans want to continue to give the rich,big corporations and oil companies tax breaks and the rest of the people die? A word to the people who are not among the rich. Don't work for the rich. This way the rich won't have anyone to cater to them. They can't cook,do their hair,put on makeup,dress without someone telling them what to wear and use limos everywhere they go. Leave the rich to fend for themselves and see how long they last. Their illegals are going back to Mexico because of the job situation. All I can say is "Republicans Pass The Jobs Bill". The people gave you your jobs,and we can take them away. Then you will be unemployed.
11:04 AM on 11/06/2011
Stop blamiing the repubs with your lib talking points. Actually the GOP led House of Representitives has passed about 20 jobs/economiic bills since Feb. and sent them to the Senate where Harry Reid,the Senate majority leader will not let them come to the floor. This is because he does not want to be on record for the Dems defeating jobs bills brought to them. His quote has been "Dead On Arival".
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02:29 PM on 11/06/2011
Both parties suck at the teat of Wall St and until that changes we will continue manufacturing revolutionaries and this economy will continue to flounder while people like whoever wrote this silly article throw us bones.
06:15 PM on 11/06/2011
How about people wake up and stop viewing politics as the fault of one party or the other. Both the democrats and republicans have failed the American people, and NEITHER party deserves to be in Washington any longer. Republicans shoot down bills, plans and proposals not because it's good for the American people, but because it's good for "party lines" and "standing up to Democrats". Democrats do the exact same thing. Neither side could care in the least bit about the plight of the American people, since no matter what happens THEY will be well off. Their salary is paid by American tax dollars, their jobs are lay-off proof and they will have lifelong benefits and pensions once they are out of office. Talk about a welfare state.

People need to abandon this broken system of "Democrat or Republican", "Liberal or Conservative." There are more options out there than just two parties. Start looking for representatives who care about helping Americans, and not just making their party look good in polls.

If an average American performed as poorly at his or her job as our Government has, they would have been fired a long time ago. It's high time we fired both of these inept, useless parties and started hiring people that can actually do the job. If our tax dollars are going to pay them, we may as well demand that they do the job correctly.
12:30 AM on 11/06/2011
I think we're going to find yet another revision to the unemployment numbers, which Mr. Obama changed methods of accounting for the unemployed. There are more people entering the, or I should say attempting to enter, the job force than 80,000. I don't believe for a minute that the unemployment rate went down. Gotta feeling they'll once again quietly revise them upwards. However, the fact off the matter is that the real unemployment rate is well over 15% and probably closer to 20%. Another sign of the amazing work young Barry is doing.
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mudshark12
Now who are you jiving with that cosmik debris?
10:53 PM on 11/05/2011
80,000 new jobs is nothing to sneer at, the unemployment rate WAS 9.1% now it IS 9.0%, if you want a faster rate of change then don't vote Republican in upcoming election(s).
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09:25 PM on 11/05/2011
The real reason they drop is quite simple.People on unemployment who have exhausted their benefits and will get nothing more are taken off the list of unemployed peoples,thusly it shows less people that are collecting.One of the litle tricks the gov has always loved to use in an attempt to fool the people
01:33 PM on 11/06/2011
That is totally inaccurate, but it is a common misconception. If you are unemployed and looking for work then you are included in the unemployment data whether you are receiving unemployment benefits or not. Hope this helps.
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lynettema
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08:33 PM on 11/05/2011
With our obstructionist Congress, it is amazing that ANY jobs get added. Cons are doing everything they can to stall our economic recovery. Voters SHOULD reward them with the loss of their jobs next year.
04:30 PM on 11/05/2011
You want jobs?Read this sweet article
http://news.investors.com/Article/590193/201111011900/Pelosi-Vs-Boeing-and8212-And-Jobs.htm
11:10 AM on 11/06/2011
Leobluedog:
You are exactly correct. Their motto is "Let their be 0 jobs added unless they are UNION JOBS".This South Carolina fiasco is such bull. This plant could have been opened all ready if not for these union and democratic obstructionists. They compplained that by Boing building the SC plant that they were taking jobs from Washington which was not true because they simultaneously added tons of jobs in Wash.
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04:13 PM on 11/05/2011
80,000 jobs gain. 80,000 new legal immigration. 40,000 illegal immigration. Seems like a loss to me.
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mudshark12
Now who are you jiving with that cosmik debris?
09:03 PM on 11/05/2011
Maybe this is why you have zero fans.
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07:03 PM on 11/06/2011
Mudshit, I have you for a fan.
07:37 AM on 11/06/2011
The illegals are going back to Mexico. There are no jobs for them. Read or listen to the news lately?
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sophie M
ANTI WAR./animal rescue
04:08 PM on 11/05/2011
i don't blame O for the sad job figures.
too many people on this earth......
...there is simply not a job for everyone.. (w/automation, technology)
face the cold hard facts.
07:33 PM on 11/05/2011
U R Naive
07:43 AM on 11/06/2011
DUH? For one thing, when you speak about my President you address him as President Obama,Commander in Chief,or President of The United States Of America. Not O. That is disrespectful and offensive and not American. It is more of a racial slur,so you got to be a Republican. You are entitled to your opinion,but never address MY President as "O". You may not respect him,but at least respect the office he holds.
11:14 AM on 11/06/2011
Get a Grip. they were probaably just saving time and space by using one letter. You people and your PC crap. Racism..I am tired of some people calliing the race card every time someone says anything derogatory about him or hiis administration..Think about it. You know that the only reason he won the election the first time is because of his race. If he were white with his lack of credentials he would have never been elected..You know that.
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sophie M
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01:03 PM on 11/06/2011
i did not say O sucked.
ii said : i don't blame O.
get a grip .
RTIII
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04:01 PM on 11/05/2011
But, of course, this isn't the REAL "unemployment rate" - which is about double the published figure - this is just the official ratio of those people contacting an agency of some level of government (local, state, or federal) for employment help. People who are unemployed and who are seeking work and who are not in contact with a form of government about their situation are not counted AT ALL.
07:47 AM on 11/06/2011
I would like to know where you have gotten your facts. As I see it and it has been reported that the unemployment rate is now 9.0%. I don't know where you have gotten your info from and I would like to know. Fix news? The Republicans talking box. The real unemployment,as you have stated is double what is actually being said. That would make it 18%! Yep you are a regular fix news watcher,who the Koch brothers also own.
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11:00 AM on 11/06/2011
That's pretty laughable, Teresa - me a Bagger? Wach Fox? HAREDLY.

I got my information by living it, paying attention, and living it. The official calculation began changing under Reagan and has been "tweeked" ever since, with the most recent changes occuring in the Shrub's first term, if I recall correctly. The original number is still calculated and goes by some arcane number and letter designation like G15 or something like that - I wish I could remember it exactly. The motive for this is that it makes any administration - and congress - look better. Don't take my word for it, do some research into it yourself. That way, you'll know some truth you didn't get from TV - which, I strongly suspect, is a line you've told plenty of baggers in the past.

Meanwhile, I'm probably on the same side of the political divide as you. I wonder why you think it's a fox news position? Because it makes Obama look bad? He's doing plenty well on that score all on his own! And not related to unemployment specifically - I have other criticisms. I _am_ thankful we aren't shedding jobs at the same rate we were when he came into office - over half a million a month!
09:57 AM on 11/20/2011
The Bureau of Labor Statistics measures unemployment in several ways. The most commonly reported is the U3 unemployment rate - the "official" unemployment rate which follows the ILO definition of unemployed/ total labor force. It's this rate which is 9%. If you include discouraged workers (U4) it rises to about 9.5%. If you include all other marginally attached workers (U5) it rises again to 10.5%. If you include the underemployed, those who have part-time work but want full-time employment (U6) it rises greatly to nearly 16.5%.

If you only consider those who have been unemployed less than 15 weeks (U1) then our unemployment rate is only about 5%. Suddenly we're not doing so bad! But, as you can clearly see, the "official" unemployment rate is only one piece of the economic puzzle.
01:37 PM on 11/06/2011
Totally incorrect. If you are unemployed and looking for work you are counted as unemployed whether you are drawing benefits or not. You might want to check out the facts on the BLS website.
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12:46 AM on 11/08/2011
Sorry, you might want to do some more research. They publish a lot of numbers and it's not politically expedient to cite the real situation regarding "the current unemployment number." However, what you'll find behind the rhetoric is that the actual source of the information in today's number is exclusively people seeking governmental help. That means, ipso-facto, that those who do not seek governmental help are not counted.

As I said before, they still do calculate the _real_ unemployment number, it just goes by another name.

If you have a problem understanding this, then you are either willfully ignorant or dillusional - or, I suppose, impared in some way. Presuming you are none of those, perhaps you have some deeper homework to do.
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08:16 AM on 11/05/2011
I am sorry, but the recession hasn't ended. That is a political statement inspired by upcoming elections.
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billw8017
Obama/Biden 2012
12:52 PM on 11/05/2011
Technically, the recession ended a couple years ago. We are now too slowly coming out of its affects. As we await the impending election year of 2012, everything becomes political and about the election. Republicans want to prolong the misery and beat Obama. Democrats want us on an upward trend and to fix some of the problems that got us where we are. Both interests serve their political fortunes.
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tlcpro
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03:54 PM on 11/05/2011
The recession is still looming large. With record unemployment levels, there is no doubt about it. We can't be recession free with so many people out of work. When people have no jobs, they have no money to spend to stimulate the economy.
07:54 AM on 11/06/2011
The recession started when Bush was in office. We are coming out of the recession but it has not ended. If we do not get the Republicans to do something and pass the jobs bill,we will be back in a recession again,or worse a depression. If the Republican voters have not seen by now that the Republicans don't care about them,then the voters are not caring about the jobs. They are racist also,as the Republicans they voted for. Thanks to Bill Clinton,who had the best economy and no deficit during his administration, who is now pushing the jobs bill for President Obama.
03:17 PM on 11/05/2011
I totally agree. Prices are higher for everything. There are NO MORE jobs than there were a year ago, no matter what the "experts" say. Getting credit is slow if not impossible (not that I'm trying). and people are really, really hurting. Companies are still laying off people and in our state their is a hiring freeze on the State level.

I have been unemployed for more than a year. The jobs available pay 1/3rd what they used to just two years ago. Many employers are not offering any benefits at all. I get temp jobs and have interviewed but there are always 300 applicants to every position.

So for those who say the recession has ended I say this ... it may be "technically" overy, but believe me the suffering goes on and on and on and there are VERY few politicians in our federal government that are doing anything about it except trying to get themselves re-elected.
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07:17 AM on 11/05/2011
It is obvious to all, except for the Kool Aid drinkers, that Obama is a business/economy destroyer, not a jobs creator. Removing part or all of the 4200+ new regulations imposed by the Obama administration on businesses would create/return million of permanent jobs. However, the left wingers can't/won't comprehend this simple common sense fact.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/24/gop-we-need-a-%E2%80%98time-out%E2%80%99-from-regulations/

"The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions, and evils, is rooted in the three poisons. Greed, anger, and delusion."
~~ Bodhidharma

ANYBODY BUT OBAMA ~ 2012!
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depoly
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08:20 AM on 11/05/2011
Yep!
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Obama/Biden 2012
12:44 PM on 11/05/2011
We seem of one mind; at least, the same quotes resonate with us.

"The ignorant mind, with its infinite afflictions, passions and evils,m is rooted in the three poisons: Greed, anger and delusion." --Bodhidharma & 2Patriotic4U

2Pat... sees those ignorant liberals who after winning WWII and providing our nation's most prosperous and egalitarian era, are whining and seeking rewards for nothing. I go "WOW, that's the Tea Party Republicans in a nutshell."

We're funny people in a funny world.