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Republicans Flip On Government Job Creation For Defense

Republicans Defense Cuts Job Creation Spending

By DONNA CASSATA   11/ 4/11 10:18 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON -- The same Republicans who insist that federal spending doesn't create jobs and should be cut in the face of staggering deficits are leading the charge against smaller military budgets because about a million defense jobs would be lost.

Pentagon accounts are coming down, and Republicans who repeatedly reject the idea that an infusion of federal dollars can produce new jobs now say the government should keep billions flowing to the makers of guns, tanks, aircraft and ships for the sake of sparing jobs in home districts and states. It's the newest of several arguments against reducing Pentagon budgets.

The contradiction undercuts the GOP's anti-government spending mantra that proved successful for the party in 2010 congressional races in which Republicans reclaimed the House – a pitch sure to be repeated by candidates in 2012 contests.

Then and now, Republicans fill the campaign airwaves, news releases and stump speeches with the argument that Democratic spending – and specifically President Barack Obama's $825 billion stimulus package in 2009 – doesn't create jobs. Just this August, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said they were wrong, estimating that in the second quarter of this year alone, the spending package increased the number of people employed by between 1 million and 2.9 million.

Consider the latest argument from Republicans on the House Armed Services Committee as lawmakers stare down at least $450 billion in cuts from projected defense spending over the next 10 years.

Running for re-election, Rep. Howard "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif., said in February 2010 that the stimulus package did not create new jobs. In a statement about the economy and jobs now on his website, McKeon says "congressional Democrats and the administration continue to insist that we can spend our way out of this recession and create jobs, but the numbers just don't add up."

But at a hearing last week, McKeon, now the committee chairman, argued against cuts to the military, saying, "We don't spend money on defense to create jobs. But defense cuts are certainly a path to job loss, especially among our high-skilled workforces. There is no private sector alternative to compensate for the government's investment."

He later added, "While cuts to the military might reduce federal spending, they harm national security and they definitely don't lead to job growth."

Asked about the competing statements, a spokesman for McKeon, Claude Chafin, said they were "not inconsistent" because the defense industry is a unique recipient of federal dollars.

The Pentagon is facing reductions of nearly half a trillion dollars, stemming in large part from the limits set in the debt accord reached this summer between Obama and congressional Republicans. Republicans and Democrats, as well as the Pentagon, fear that the special bipartisan panel looking to slash the deficit won't be able to come up with a plan in three weeks to cut at least $1.2 trillion in spending over 10 years. If they can't, automatic, across-the-board cuts of $1.2 trillion kick in, with half coming from defense.

McKeon's remarks came at a hearing in which the GOP-led panel had invited three economists to testify about the potentially dire consequences of defense cuts.

One of the witnesses, Stephen S. Fuller, a professor at George Mason University, had conducted an analysis of defense cuts and the economic impact for the defense industry. He told the Armed Services Committee that an estimated 1 million jobs would be lost if defense spending cuts totaled $1 trillion. Hardest hit would be California, with 125,800 jobs lost, and Virginia, with 122,800. The two states have a significant number of aerospace and defense workers.

That prompted Rep. Randy Forbes, R-Va., to echo McKeon in warning about potential job losses if the federal spigot of defense dollars is turned down.

"We need to put those costs on the table when we're saying, OK, over here you're going to save all this. We need to let all these states and people know we're not saving it; we're just passing it on to you, because basically you're going to lose a lot of jobs in making this decision," Forbes said at the hearing.

It was Forbes who wrote on Oct. 24: "The government has tried its hand at job creation by pouring money on the problem, picking winners and losers in the industry, and imposing stifling regulations. It has not worked."

Questioned about his comments, Forbes said in an interview that federal spending does create jobs, but his argument – and that of other Republicans – is "the federal government never creates jobs as efficiently as the private sector creates jobs."

The Defense Department's budget has nearly doubled to $700 billion in the 10 years since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Those numbers reflect the base budget, now more than $500 billion, plus the billions spent on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, money that wasn't paid for with tax increases or offsetting spending cuts.

Robert Pollin, a professor at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst who has compared job creation from military spending to other sectors, said dollars for defense certainly would create jobs.

"It's no surprise to say, with $700 billion ... you better be creating a lot of jobs," Pollin said.

The issue, however, is how many jobs.

A study that Pollin and Heidi Garrett-Peltier conducted in 2009 found that spending $1 billion on health care, education or clean energy, or cutting taxes, created more jobs across all pay ranges than spending the equivalent amount on the military. Investment in education generated about 29,100 jobs from $1 billion in spending compared with 19,600 jobs from health care, 17,100 from clean energy and 11,600 from the military, according to the analysis.

"Channeling funds into clean energy, health care and education in an effective way will therefore create significantly greater opportunities for decent employment throughout the U.S. economy than spending the same amount of funds with the military," the two wrote in a study based on Commerce Department data.

Pollin said Thursday that an updated study is forthcoming – and the conclusions are the same.

Said Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass.: "Defense spending is a poor way to create jobs. You can create more jobs investing in other areas."

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Bumpkins 05:12 PM on 11/04/2011
Said it all along..there will be no real Defense cuts. Forty cents of every tax dollar goes to defense........why we have a deficit...that is one main reason. One million jobs....one million foreign contractors...not here...we have to replace the huge amount of equipment worn out in the sand of Iraq and the roadless Afghanistan........The money machine has tried to keep the cash cow alive. First, can we  Read More...
10:29 AM on 11/09/2011
I do not quite get why in the world would we need to continue to build weapons, tanks, aircraft and ships that we no longer use. Why is it we have so much of this equipment in storage and we have not used it since WWII but yet the DOD continues to build this equipment for the sake of jobs. This is a joke right? Wouldn't it make more sense to stop using the funds to build outdated equipment and find work in another area for these people and others who are suffering to find work? I just do not understand why any military vet would have to go homeless or hungry because DOD is being so selfish with these funds. So I ask are they really looking out for those jobs or looking out for hoarding money for themselves?
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Max Shelby
Purveyor of tar and feathers
10:23 AM on 11/09/2011
Hey Joe how's it feel to be awarded accolades by what the SPLC recently designated as a "hate group" the Family Research Council? Bet that'll look great on your resume come next election.
10:07 PM on 11/07/2011
The GOP/Teaparty will never pass a bill that will benifit our Country. Their goal is to ruin our Country and cut off any and all programs that protect our Seniors/Poor/Disabled/Military and continue to cut education,
lay off Teachers, so for Christmas this year the only gifts the GOP/Teaparty are handing out are scissors.
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President Obama 2012. obamaachievements.org
06:45 PM on 11/07/2011
They get exposed but there are usually no consequences.
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imtheoz
04:34 PM on 11/07/2011
There just isn't an issue that Republicans aren't hypocritical about. This isn't news, but no harm in pointing it out one more time.
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Gregory Osmond
02:39 PM on 11/07/2011
When is the media going to call these guys out and tell the world that we're not buying your lies.
Pass The President's Job Bill and let's get people back to work!!
hhoc612710
Life in peace & harmony.
02:31 PM on 11/07/2011
Republicans have been EXPOSED time and time again. This is not new but now it's about what they cherish most "Defense"
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02:12 PM on 11/07/2011
Tax rates do not create jobs or the incentive for businesses to expand or build. The one single thing that creates jobs and markets is CUSTOMERS WITH MONEY TO SPEND!!!. The jobs that could be created by the American Jobs Act are the exact same as those for the defense industry. They are government contracts going to private businesses who employ people. The Amercan Jobs Act jobs will go to small, local businesses who can also benefit from the President's offer of a tax credit fo new hiring.

Also, last month private sector job creation was 104K new jobs. However, because there's no more stimulus money to keep the states employing them, plus the GOP's all out attack on teacher, police and firefighters, we lost 39K public sector jobs. That's nearly 40,000 people who's lost income will affect their local businesses quite badly. It's thousands of more homes that may be forclosed on. It's more government money for unemployment rather than employment. Republicans should receive a shock to the groin any time they claim they're trying to create jobs. It's a lie and a cruel one at that.
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rel77
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused
01:33 PM on 11/07/2011
Just another example of Republicans saying one thing to curry favor with the extreme right wing while quietly lobbying the White House to send all the money they can get to their States for job creating projects. They know full well that their "arguments" against government spending are a line of BS, but they can't say that because the Tea Party has painted them into a corner. What Republicans need to do is turn themselves from a lunatic reactionary hate group back into a political party that works across the aisle to do the nation's business and get people back to work.

Yeah, that'll happen soon....
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RespectMyAuthoritah
Calling yourself a patriot doesn't make you one
12:57 PM on 11/07/2011
The Republican solution is quite simple:

1) Blame Democrats for not creating more jobs.
2) Block any attempt by Democrats to create more jobs.
3) Complain that Democrats don't create jobs.
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Denemator
Has the world gone nuts?
02:04 PM on 11/07/2011
Bingo.
12:20 PM on 11/07/2011
Hey if I was in government at this point on either side, I would want to keep the Defence contractors busy and employed and I would want to keep a few wars going.

I meant look at it this way. Iraq ends and the troops come home to almost no jobs. "Hoover-ville" anyone? And then you have layoffs and shutdowns for the contractors. Thats a lot of folks out of work.

I think the the Government in general is scared of the prospect of the unemployment numbers rising, the GOP in particular is very concerned. The overall Gov is scared because it will just add to the overall unease in America with alot of unemployed soldiers wandering about, among other issues.

The GOP is crying-in-the-corner, pants crappingly, terrified of higher unemployment numbers because that is exactly what Obama is going to beat their nominee about the head and shoulders with in the election. And they KNOW that there is nothing they can do about it. Obama will lay out the facts and the timeline for all of the media and the American people to see and the Repubs will lose in a landslide.

(Just my 2 cents, cause that's all I got left)
12:46 PM on 11/07/2011
I agree, though what I believe the artcile is trying to point out is that all along the GOP has been saying that that government spending cannot create jobs. Suddenly now they are going to have to explain why contracts to private industry for welders to make tanks (that may or may not ever be used) a GOOD government expenditure, but contracts to private industry for welders to make/repair bridges ( that are the very core of our national infrastructure and critical for our economy) is a BAD government expenditure. A job is a job and the bridges are a much better investment.
02:35 PM on 11/07/2011
The pre-fab party line for this is: "Defense spending is special."

Seriously. That's all they are going to say to make their case to Republicans.
jbw1948
I'm not going to complain nobody listens!!!
03:57 PM on 11/07/2011
How are you going to pay for the few wars you want to keep going? It would cost less money if the troops were home!
10:51 PM on 11/07/2011
Wars that "I" want to keep going??? Are you sure you read to WHOLE post. I didnt say anything about ME wantig the wars to continue, our government on the other hand......
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Derni
11:35 AM on 11/07/2011
but did they tell you that those companies fill their pockets with $$$$ and it's not really te jobs that would be lost but their income that would be lost?? and you're absolutely correct..they did flip..always taking care of themselves aren't they???
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ebanks84
Grandma knows best!
10:53 AM on 11/07/2011
The republicans are the biggest war spenders in the world. If it has anything to do with making, supplying, or continuing war efforts, they are on board with it and will break the bank to fund it. And if they take power back again, you can bet your bippy they will put us in another war quick, fast, and in a major hurry because that's how they make their extra money and it feeds their braggadocio nature.

Republicans are not happy campers if they're not destroying other third world countries and their people while they steal their natural resources from right up under their noses thinking that America is there to protect them. Not!
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Trevor Seitz
10:52 AM on 11/07/2011
The ONLY entity that can "create" job IS the government… every other employing entity is bound by the bottom line.

The government can hire one person to dig a hole and another to fill it - everybody else has to responsibly account for every dollar out the door, thus every employee must fill a cost effective need. They will NEVER "create" a job because they have extra $ in the profit margin...
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No More Left
The end of a mistake in 2012
10:27 AM on 11/07/2011
Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama's highly touted "Jobs Council", is moving even more GE infrastructure to China.  GE makes more medical-imaging machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it "is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing".  Apparently, this is all part of a "plan to invest about $2 billion across China" over the next few years.  But moving core pieces of its business overseas is nothing new for GE.  Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States.  Perhaps GE should change its slogan to "Imagination At Work (In China)".  If the very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to turn around any time soon?
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And you thought it could never happen!
11:59 AM on 11/07/2011
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Chad53916
Everytime you vote Republican, God kills a kitten.
01:47 PM on 11/07/2011
Gee, Scott Walker had finally opened up our state for business. Why'd they leave???