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Black Friday Shopping 2011: TV Retailers Look To 'Play Offense' For Holiday Shopping Season

Black Friday Shopping 2011

First Posted: 11/06/11 11:56 AM ET Updated: 11/06/11 11:56 AM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - It may not be a blood bath, but it will definitely be a dogfight.

The television aisles of top U.S. retailers are poised for a hard-fought contest this holiday season as chains take little chances with budget-conscious shoppers.

Unlike last year when some such as Best Buy held the line on discounts and promoted only high-end TVs, many retailers told Reuters this past week that they plan to do whatever it takes to get the customer through the door.

For the consumer, expect to see price cuts of up to 40 percent from a year ago on big-screen TVs, plus free shipping deals and even a 36-month financing option, in the run-up to ''Black Friday'' on Nov. 25, the unofficial start of the holiday selling season.

``As we look at the holiday season, we are going to play offense,'' Hhgregg Inc Chief Executive Officer Dennis May told Reuters in an interview last week. ``We are going to be very promotional. We are going to be aggressive.''

U.S. shoppers have held off on buying televisions and other nonessential items in the anemic economy. But the TV market is also a victim of a lackluster product cycle.

Early last week, Japanese manufacturer Sony Corp warned investors that its TV division is headed for its eighth consecutive annual loss, while rival Panasonic Corp forecast its biggest annual net loss in a decade.

``My outlook is not any different from Panasonic and Sony,'' Anthony Chukumba, an analyst with BB&T Capital Markets said. ''We have a lull right now in terms of TV demand; part of it is macro-driven, part of it is product cycle-driven. There is just not a lot of innovation out there.

``And a couple of things that may in fact just have been counted on to drive incremental demand like 3-D and Internet-connected smart TVs are just not working.''

Against this backdrop, global demand for televisions is expected to fall about 1 percent in the fourth quarter, according to Paul Gagnon, director of North American TV research for consulting firm Display Search.

This will fuel the intense fight for shoppers as they look for the biggest bang for their buck during the holiday season.

``It is starting even earlier than usual. You are seeing sharp promotions. You are seeing Wal-Mart out there with a TV this weekend and Amazon.com with special deals. It is upping the overall intensity,'' Bernstein analyst Colin McGranahan said.

``It is going to be a dogfight. Everyone's going to be fighting because demand is not great,'' McGranahan said.

Best Buy has already said it would offer free shipping on online orders from Nov. 1 through Dec. 27. On TVs costing more than $899, the world's largest consumer electronics chain is offering 36-month financing, a 60-day price guarantee and a promise to even pick up the TV from the customer's house if the model was not what he or she really wanted.

``Given economic realities, consumers are definitely more discerning this holiday season, definitely looking for the best value for their money,'' Mike Mohan, senior vice president and general manager of Home Theater at Best Buy, said.

FOCUS IS ON BIGGER SCREENS

Industry watchers expect retailers to focus less on promoting special features like 3-D technology, which can be difficult for the average consumer to understand.

``Today's TVs have so many capabilities such as Smart TV, Internet and 3-D technology and there are also a lot of confusing terms such as screen refresh rate and HDMI Inputs. Consumers can become overwhelmed and have difficulty understanding what television will meet their needs,'' Jim Hilson, BJ's Wholesale vice president of merchandising said.

Instead, they expect the focus to be on screen size, stressing the increased affordability of big screens.

``In the U.S. which is one of the more mature markets around the world for TVs, one that has already largely gone through the flat-panel TV transition, mostly what people are out there doing right now is updating the size,'' Gagnon said.

Hhgregg said it is carrying more giant TVs with 60-inch and above screens, and reducing its inventory of 32- and 40-inch TVs this holiday season.

``I can get a 60-inch TV for what I used to pay for a 40-inch TV,'' Hhgregg CEO May said. ``The screen size the consumer has always wanted has become affordable to them now.''

Due to their focus on larger sizes, retailers including Best Buy, BJ's, Sam's Club and Hhgregg told Reuters that they will not be reducing their shelf space for televisions despite the uncertainty in demand.

``To some degree, the 42 (inch) is the new 32. The 55 is the new 42,'' said Jason Shaw, vice president of merchandising for electronics at Wal-Mart's Sam's Club warehouse store operation. ''They are getting more for their money than they have ever gotten before.'' (Reporting by Dhanya Skariachan in New York, editing by Bernard Orr and Maureen Bavdek)

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NEW YORK (Reuters) - It may not be a blood bath, but it will definitely be a dogfight. The television aisles of top U.S. retailers are poised for a hard-fought contest this holiday season as ch...
NEW YORK (Reuters) - It may not be a blood bath, but it will definitely be a dogfight. The television aisles of top U.S. retailers are poised for a hard-fought contest this holiday season as ch...
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01:00 AM on 11/10/2011
I always say that I'm not going to go but I always see a great deal..like the HDTVs under 100 dollars. Walmart has posted their ad earlier this year than ever.
http://www.goodandbadnews.com/walmart-2011-black-friday-ad/
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1John 5:11-12 Eternal Life in flesh
02:54 PM on 11/07/2011
Been there, done that ....bate and switch ....NOT WORTH THE EFFORT !
01:15 PM on 11/07/2011
We are trying to buy only things made in the US this year. I couldn't find find a waffle iron last week, a TV would be out of the question.
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VFausone
12:00 PM on 11/07/2011
Millions of Americans are scared and hurting so guess what? WHO CARES ABOUT BLACK FRIDAY? I don't. If some fool wants to stand outside and freeze to death in line to save $100 on something they don't need why should anyone care about that?
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Phil Hill 2012
11:21 AM on 11/07/2011
Black Friday deals are never deals. I bought my latest Sony TV at an online retailer for 50% less than the same TV at best buy. The best part is that the online retailer is an official Sony reseller so the TV was brand new with the same warranty as any TV bought at Best Buy. I went to BB first to see if I could negotiate the price down for the convenience of 30 day return policy. I was told their price was at cost and they were willing to not make a profit off the TV because they sell cables to go with it at a premium. Their price was the same as the Sony website. At cost my arse...
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irishdoc
It's not me..it's you. Really
10:39 AM on 11/08/2011
Where did you get it from?
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10:27 AM on 11/07/2011
Sorry banks, credit card companies, retailers, economy...I am keeping my money this year! Either making crochet gifts or body butters...ALL HOMEMADE!
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littlepuffycloud
I propose a toast to my self control...
09:58 AM on 11/07/2011
Is my family the only one in the country with only one television? One little 32" Sharp Aquos flatscreen in the living room...After saving up for a few months, we paid cash for it 7 years ago. I'm sure we could get a bigger one for less than the $900 we paid for it, but why? That's another thing I love about my cozy little house; there's no room for multiple crap.
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10:21 AM on 11/07/2011
Fellow 1 TV-er here! :) It's rarely on!

I paid $300 for a 40" flat earlier in the year after using the same 13" TV for the past 10 years! The new TV gets less play than the old one ever did!
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littlepuffycloud
I propose a toast to my self control...
10:58 AM on 11/07/2011
Woo hoo! Maybe we should start a 1 TV-er club. It would be very 'exclusive' ;)
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06:57 PM on 11/07/2011
I myself will be boycotting Black Friday. What I really want to tell you is I love your Pug!
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littlepuffycloud
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10:13 AM on 11/08/2011
And I bet if my pug Wilbur got to meet you, he would love you too.
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ImmanuelGoldstein
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09:45 AM on 11/07/2011
In the first place who needs to buy a new TV every year or two? I just replaced my old CRT monitor that was manufactured in 1999 with a flatscreen bought used made in 2007. Plenty of people I know are watching TVs a decade or more old that work perfectly and who have no inclination to replace them. Most of the 'innovations' just aren't worth the additional cost to most people and it's hard to run out and buy a 60" flatscreen when you are still saddled with the credit card bill from the 48" one.
3D TV is astronomically expensive,literally a headache, and few TV shows are filmed specifically to take advantage of it, which renders it irrelevant in most cases. The kind of people who would buy smart TVs already have DVRs which are plenty smart enough for their purposes (now if only the SHOWS were smarter ZING!). Finally, the days of spending almost a trillion a year in home equity withdrawals are over,and with the underployment rate approaching 25% , the only way many people could get one is if they allowed you to buy them with food stamps.
To sum up : Most people don't NEED new TVs (in the big picture ,who NEEDS a TV at all really?), have no reason to want one, and can't afford it if they did.
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inorbit
09:43 AM on 11/07/2011
I hate Black Friday and never participate. It's degrading.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
10:27 AM on 11/07/2011
You've got oodles of company!
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majorwiblit
Mr Natural says,,,"Don't mean Sheeet!"
08:02 AM on 11/07/2011
I think for alot of americans this is not going to be a very merry Christmas
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NWBrunette
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09:35 AM on 11/07/2011
Christmas has absolutely nothing to do with shopping and little to do with presents. It has to do with family and friends, love and compassion, celebration and nurturing our spiritual side. At least it is if you get outside of the little hallmark box the corporations keep trying to stick you in.
10:52 PM on 11/07/2011
Christmas is a special holiday. It's a time when Christians purchase material things as gifts for others to celebrate the birth of someone who disapproved of material things.
07:40 AM on 11/07/2011
HP,,,,I can't upload a pic in my bio,,,It says"There is an internal error,,please try again later??
I know its not a big deal,,,,just wondering,,,,,ty

its been saying that since last week
07:32 AM on 11/07/2011
I'd love to see the Occupy and similar movements push consumers to boycott Black Friday and even vow to donate most of or all the holiday spending money to various charities or to only shop at local retailers. Basically stick it to big companies and their big box stores. I kniw that's more a pipe dream.

As for TVs, I still own an old cathode tube monster, and am waiting until I pay off some bad debts before upgrading. I do wonder why one should buy a pricier one from Best Buy when lesser-known brands cost less.

One last thing on Best Buy. They don't make money off the computers or TVs. They sell them at neat cost. Their secret revenue maker is on all the added services their salespeople push. So when that computer sales guy is pushing you to buy ink, surge surpressor, paper, internet service, and a service plan...or the TV guy is pushing Dish network and Netflix, that's how BB makes their revenue.
08:18 AM on 11/07/2011
They are asking that no one use their CC on Black Friday so that the banks do not get a portion of the purchase price.
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VFausone
12:01 PM on 11/07/2011
Oh I like it- very cool. CASH ONLY!
10:32 AM on 11/08/2011
That's a great idea. I'll be encouraging that one in my circle of friends! Another side effect is that it will slow down the checkout lines while under-educated clerks learn to count cash and make change, thereby reducing the profit/minute of the big=box retailers.
I'm lovin' it!
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inorbit
09:42 AM on 11/07/2011
You can game the system by just buying the TV and nothing else. I love doing stuff like that. I use credit cards only to get rewards. I never carry a balance or am late on a payment, so they make very little money off of me. They actually call customers like me "deadbeats." *heh* Another fun way to game the system is use Target to buy food and other essential household items because they sell it cheap to draw customers in and make very little money off of it. Use their credit card to get 5% additional off (never, ever carry a balance!) and never buy anything else from them. Love it!
10:53 AM on 11/07/2011
It's not the CC holder that pays the banks at time of purchase...it is the vendor. Everytime you use your CC the bank gets up to 2.5% of the sales price as a service fee. That is why gas stations charge less if you pay cash. I have a small business and stopped accepting CC's. If you think of all the money spent on Black Friday not using CC could send them a clear message. It is also one reason why donating money over your phone is better..the banks made millions of dollars on 9/11 and the earthquake in Hattii.


If you think those cards that offer rewards don't cost you ...you are delusional. The stores are in contract with the card holder, they raise their prices to enable you to 'earn' a reward. Its a whole business, that you pay for with each purchase you make. Trust me, you are not gaming them...they are gaming you.
07:13 AM on 11/07/2011
Did Badges and friends activity go away,,,,are they coming back????????????
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littlepuffycloud
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09:52 AM on 11/07/2011
Don't care about no stinkin' badges, but really miss friends activity..
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flinthfp
1John 5:11-12 Eternal Life in flesh
02:56 PM on 11/07/2011
Yep, Just notice that...????
07:12 AM on 11/07/2011
Its gonna be a sad Christmas,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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NWBrunette
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09:47 AM on 11/07/2011
There are a gazillion ways to make Christmas happy without shopping and oodles of presents... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8oAU56MTS8&feature=related
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Elyriaohio
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05:09 AM on 11/07/2011
Wallmart has mind-numbing Xmas music on already for our shopping annoyance. God help their employees that have to listen to that for 2 months.
10:36 AM on 11/08/2011
Yes, and it has subliminal messages embedded within, like "Banks are your friends" and "Collect government benefits by becoming a Wal-Mart employee".