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Mark Zuckerberg: Google, Microsoft Are Violating Your Privacy--Not Us (VIDEO)

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The Huffington Post   First Posted: 11/07/11 06:08 PM ET Updated: 11/08/11 04:01 PM ET

Facebook isn't violating your privacy -- Google, Yahoo and Microsoft are.

That was the message from Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook CEO who has consistently faced criticism over his site's privacy practices, during an interview with Charlie Rose.

Facebook’s way of handling its users' personal information has brought the company crosswise with lawmakers in the United States, Europe and South Korea; prompted Facebook boycotts; and even inspired one photographer to stalk Zuckerberg and snap photos of him in the name of "turning the tables" on the entrepreneur.

Yet Zuckerberg argued that Facebook is far more privacy-friendly than other web behemoths, who are less transparent about the data they collect and how they use it. The Facebook co-founder called out Microsoft by name as one company violating users' privacy, though Microsoft was an early investor in the company and owns a fraction of the social network.

"If you look at companies, whether it's Google or Yahoo! or Microsoft, right, that have search engines and ad networks, they also have a huge amount of information about you. It's just that they're collecting that about you behind your back, really," Zuckerberg said, according to a transcript of the interview, which airs November 7. " And it's like you're going -- you're going around the web, and they have cookies, and they're collecting this huge amount of information about who you are. But you never know that."

Zuckerberg maintained that Facebook collects only the information a user chooses to share with the social network, whereas Google and other internet companies silently compile data about individuals as these users browse the web. These firms are the real threat, but Facebook "appears scarier" because it is more transparent in how it displays what its users have shared, Zuckerberg argued.

"[T]he people have little or no control over the information that a company like Google or Yahoo! or Microsoft has about you," said Zuckerberg. "I think that these companies with those big ad networks are basically getting away with collecting huge amounts of information, likely way more information than people are sharing on Facebook about themselves...[I]n reality, you have control over every single thing that you've shared on Facebook."

At one point during the interview, Facebook chief operating officer Sheryl Sandberg asserted that Facebook often came up in the context of online privacy because it had pioneered new privacy precautions, a point Rose immediately contested.

"I think it is the case that people talk about Facebook and privacy a lot, and I think it will continue to be the case, but it’s because we lead in this area, meaning that we are the most privacy-focused place for anyone to share anything," said Sandberg.

"Well, no, it’s because you have more information about everybody than anybody else," Rose countered.

Lawmakers might not be so sympathetic to Facebook's argument. During a hearing on mobile privacy earlier this year, Senator Jay Rockefeller told Facebook chief technology officer Bret Taylor that his companies' practices were "indefensible" and accused Zuckerberg of being devoid of "social values."

During the Charlie Rose interview, Zuckerberg also reflected on his relationship with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, whom the Facebook CEO called "amazing." Zuckerberg noted that he had asked Jobs questions about running a tech company, such as "how to build a team around you...that's focused on building as high quality and good things as you are" and "how to keep an organization focused;" along with questions about the "aesthetics" and "mission orientation of companies."

"I think we connected a lot on this level of, okay, Facebook has this mission that's really more than just trying to build a company, right, that has a market cap or a value," Zuckerberg said. He added that Jobs understood Zuckerberg was not interested in selling Facebook and said it was one way that the two men "saw eye to eye on...what we were trying to do in the world."

Watch an excerpt of Charlie Rose's interview with Zuckerberg and Sandberg below, or check PBS's Station Finder to see where you can catch the broadcast of the interview:

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Facebook isn't violating your privacy -- Google, Yahoo and Microsoft are. That was the message from Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook CEO who has consistently faced criticism over his site's privacy pr...
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12:37 AM on 11/11/2011
Who needs privacy anyway.
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02:52 PM on 11/09/2011
ly*ing twit
12:27 PM on 11/09/2011
thats a lie, i tried to delete a drunken message i sent some girl, and i tested sending a message and then deleting it on another friend and i couldn't see the message but He still can,and im sure this girl still has that message. so you aren't in control of everything you share
02:33 PM on 11/09/2011
You are in control of the fact that you got drunk. What you did while you were drunk isn't the companies fault and they didn't in anyway force you to send that message.
02:41 PM on 11/09/2011
yea i guess but that makes you = Not fully in control of the information you send
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11:29 AM on 11/09/2011
I know nothing about Microsoft but I will give a couple of examples of the other two.
Facebook- I was editing my wall only to find my home phone number listed at the bottom of the page. I NEVER gave FB my phone number. I deleted it immediately. A few weeks later I checked it again and this time they had listed my cell phone number which again I never gave them and whats more I never use except for emergencies while traveling.
Google/YouTube- The other day I signed in to You Tube, which I rarely do and hadn't done in over a year. When I signed in instead of showing my user name at the top of the page it was the password of my e-mail account which of course I have never given anyone, So I immediately closed my Google/You Tube account then changed my password.
I might also add I pay to have my home phone number unlisted. I can't unlist my cell number but obviously it doesn't matter. They are all information crooks and they get much more info than you give them or put on your wall ! My best advice is to stay far far away from any online service of any kind !
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Gizmo9
It's been lovely!
09:50 AM on 11/09/2011
You become a public property as soon as you start clicking those keys on your keyboard.
09:06 AM on 11/09/2011
Yahoo, yeah. They get hacked anyway so sometimes it's not even really them, just through them, but I doubt Google is invading privacy. I think this guy is full of crap, plain and simple. When I'd run facebook without stopscript, i would get nothing but viruses and malaware, started using stopscript, nothing. I don't get viruses and b.s. going to google. What a moron. It's like the cell phone companies. People only put up with his shit because their family and friends are all on there and it's an easy way to get connected.
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03:00 PM on 11/09/2011
if you really think google doesn't invade privacy you are saying that because you work for them or you are the moron ! They both invade privacy.
08:55 AM on 11/09/2011
Twenty years ago if one ordered something from the Eddie Bauer catalog you would later find an LL Bean catalog in your mailbox and the following week the gift catalog from Crate and Barrel.

Shoot forward to 2011, sign up for an Internet anything and your screen name is sold to any of a dozen email address compilers resulting in Amazon book offers to long lost Somali relatives looking to quickly move vast sums of wealth in illicit schemes. Personal spending patterns and social networking interests are worth money.

Privacy of where you go, what you buy, what you look at or what you say on the Internet has never existed. Someone is compiling that information, Facebook, Microsoft and Goggle are only the tip of the information database. And then of course the Patriot Act and the requirements of the government to insure the national security from those that might say the wrong keywords online.

Anonymity is so 20th century.
08:05 AM on 11/09/2011
What you don't want known, don't put it online.
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Collin Lowry
07:08 AM on 11/09/2011
Darfur: Hey dude, rwanda committed more genocide than us so its okay if we do it a little on the side, okay?
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06:32 AM on 11/09/2011
Sometimes watching natural selection doing its thing can be very funny.

While the American people put up with a government who allows this kind of wholesale invasion of privacy by our corporations, most of Europe and much of the world has implemented very strict privacy (and in many cases, anonymity) requirements for the internet. But we corporate prostitutes have allowed our Supreme Court to declare the internet an "information service", and therefore not given the same basic privacy rights as our telephone and postal communications. Even though the internet is now, by far, the world's primary method of PRIVATE COMMUNICATION.

Future historians are not going to be kind to us. The current state of affairs is obscene.
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10:34 PM on 11/12/2011
You just got fanned for that.
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Joe Mando
Oh say...Can you see?
06:24 AM on 11/09/2011
Nah, nah, nah, nah, naaaahhhh.
06:22 AM on 11/09/2011
Gee Wonderboy....hey look over here...we aren.t that bad.....but we are talkin about you...not them
05:31 AM on 11/09/2011
Its best to never ever use any computer in order to protect yourself from big brother. Watch your back. Their watching you. It should be made illegal. Stand up for your privacy rights America. Make them stop.
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Gizmo9
It's been lovely!
10:14 AM on 11/09/2011
If you are involved in some criminal activity I would agree do not use a computer. They are watching me? Good, I hope they are not bored as my life is not that exiting.
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mlfertig
The grass isn't always greener
08:34 AM on 11/12/2011
But you are using a computer right now and posting things that if yoy are indeed being "watched" you are saying thing that make make you more of a target for the "watchers" What about that...inother words unless you are conducting some illegal activites dont worry,,although i agree that our privacy is being invaded more and more ..smart phones are a big culprit too..
04:41 AM on 11/09/2011
Oh and there are other options for facebook as well. Look into Diaspora ( http://diasporial.com/tutorials/signing-up ) and identi.ca ( https://identi.ca/ ), open source social platforms that are sure to replace Twitter and Facebook as they become more invasive and less useful to users.
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Seeyl8rg8r
slowly watching humanity wither away...
04:01 AM on 11/09/2011
Google is definitely the #1 privacy violator... but Facebook certainly takes the #2 spot.