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Natural Gas Cars Pushed By Colorado, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania And Wyoming Governors

By CATHERINE TSAI   11/ 9/11 02:07 PM ET   AP

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The governors of Colorado, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Wyoming are teaming up to encourage U.S. automakers to develop affordable vehicles that run on natural gas, a valuable resource in each of their states.

Their plan is to start replacing thousands of vehicles in their state fleets with ones that run on natural gas, in turn driving demand for more filling stations and cars that run on alternative fuel, according to a memorandum of understanding the governors signed Wednesday.

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper touted the idea as a market-driven way to build demand for natural gas-driven school buses, pickup trucks and vans while also supporting jobs, reducing U.S. reliance on foreign oil, cutting emissions, and providing fuel that is the equivalent of $1.25 per gallon cheaper than gasoline.

"Not only do we not send billions of dollars out of the country, it's a cleaner-burning fuel that is significantly less expensive," Hickenlooper said in announcing the effort at a Colorado Natural Gas Vehicle Coalition workshop.

Republican Gov. Mary Fallin of Oklahoma and Hickenlooper, a Democrat, led the initiative. Hickenlooper said the National Governors Association would help promote the idea to other states.

Colorado alone has about 5,800 vehicles in its fleet, plus about 2,000 more within the state Department of Transportation, state fleet manager Art Hale said. Because of a limited state budget, Colorado now has a three-year backlog of about 1,600 vehicles that need to be replaced, Hale said.

Colorado's budget remains tight, but some vehicles will have to be replaced soon. "Some of these vehicles are 10 to 12 years old. We have no choice but to start replacing them," Hickenlooper said.

The extraction of natural gas through hydraulic fracturing, which involves injecting a mix of water, chemicals and sand into rock underground at high pressure, has drawn concern from some residents and environmentalists, especially as companies look to tap the Niobrara formation underlying parts of Colorado and Wyoming and the Marcellus Shale play across much of Pennsylvania.

The Environmental Protection Agency is studying the potential effects of fracking on drinking water, but results aren't expected until next year.

Production of natural gas vehicles today remains low. Honda makes a Civic that runs on natural gas, but it's more expensive than a standard Civic.

There are about 1,200 natural gas vehicles in Colorado and an estimated 120,000 in the U.S., said David Hill, vice president of operations in Encana Natural Gas Inc.'s natural gas economy division. There are about 960 fueling stations nationwide, he said. Colorado has 29, ranking it seventh in the country, Hill said.

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Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:07 PM on 11/22/2011
Flex fuel is a great idea, but fracking is a terrible idea. Natural unfracked gas is fine, if almost as GHG positive as coal. Natural unrfracked gas over half of our gas has the benefit of preventing a methane extensions.

rooftop solar, offshore wind, waste bio char, efficiency and plug in hybrids are the ONLY reasonable energy solution.
07:04 PM on 11/20/2011
If it were efficient to convert vehicles to natural gas wouldn’t you think that companies that produce natural gas be the first to convert.
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Robert Lee Harrington
There's still time to change the road you're on...
06:24 PM on 12/13/2011
I live in Appalachia and I know that the three largest natural gas producers in this area do not have any vehicles that run on natuural gas.
01:09 AM on 11/18/2011
CNG and LNG for large trucks.

Electric for cars and small trucks.
01:04 AM on 11/18/2011
The price of oil is going up and we will all begin to use energy more wisely. Putting all out eggs in the oil basket is risky for our economy and national security. It is time to end the oil monopoly on transportation fuel. Bring on the electric, flex-fuel, CNG, LNG and hydrogen vehicles. If those that believe PEAK OIL theory are correct rising demand for oil from China and India will soon outpace the available supply raising the price for all. We need to diversify our energy sources and type and reduce our risks.
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rodjard
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09:25 PM on 11/11/2011
I will be pleasantly shocked if a car is on the market that I can run
on methane. I do not beleive they will allow it to happen.
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Robert Lee Harrington
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09:15 PM on 11/11/2011
I have an old pickup and I looked into converting it to CNG. The cost of the conversion is more that I paid for the truck, so no conversion until the costs are within reason.
04:20 PM on 11/11/2011
To make this work we need home fill stations or widely available CHG pumps at gas stations.

Your $1 a gal equiv home Phil CNG station is really just a cheap scuba compressor with an explosive safe electric motor worth less than $500. The units now sell for $4500.

Why is the mass funding now available for batteries not around for a simple modified scuba compressor.

Why isn't the DOE forcing gas utilities nationwide as Utah and many other countries around the world do. to spend pennies a gallon eq to offer CNG at a selection of gas stations in cities/towns/and villages to sell at home delivery cost.

Answer> Campaign donations to our most corrupt in the world politicians, from T Boone Pickens who makes a fortune selling CNG at his Clean Energy franchises at $3/gal eq, and of course Big Oil who really doesn't want to interrupt the lucrative sales of gasoline and diesel.
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Robert Lee Harrington
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11:15 AM on 12/12/2011
http://www.altfuelprices.com/
02:12 PM on 11/11/2011
yeah mary the state trooper body guard right wing sl*t mixes state govt with private natural gas corporation thus reaffirming benito mussolini's definition of fasc*ism..."fasc*ism is the merging of corporations and govt"....
01:31 PM on 11/11/2011
I understand that Natural Gas is a viable alternative fuel, however, for a country that is struggling financially I do not understand why propane is not getting more recognition as the most available and economical approved alternative fuel available in America today. Many do not realize they can upgrade their existing gasoline engines to run on propane or gasoline as a bi fuel vehicle. This allows them to save money while using a cleaner fuel and switch to gasoline when propane is not available. Propane for transportation (Autogas) is more readily available at the pump right now than E-85 is. People just have to get used to finding it since it is often not at a typical gas station. About 90% of all propane used in the US is domestic and about 60% of all propane comes from Natural Gas refining. The big difference is that the cost of the propane fueling station is less than 10% of what it costs for a fueling station for Natural Gas. If the natural gas industry wants us to drive on Natural Gas why don't they pay to build the fueling stations instead of waiting for governement subsidies to do it for them. America can not afford another bailout or corporate rebiuld. Get smart, Americans: Drive on Propane!
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pewty
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12:32 PM on 11/10/2011
IM behind ANYTHING that will stop, or cut down the amount of money we send to countries that HATE the USA
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
08:01 PM on 11/10/2011
I bought a used CNG Honda just for that reason along with a Phil station for my house. It cost me about $0.025/mile in fuel cost! To put that in perspective a Hybrid cost about $0.08/mile in fuel cost!

Sometimes making a political statement can save you lots of money!
02:16 PM on 11/11/2011
then why haven't you been behind american farmers producing all that ethanol for our gasoline for the past 30 years ? yeah right....just another fossil fuel hypocrite....
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dbrett480
11:58 AM on 11/10/2011
This wouldn't have anything to do with the high concentration of natural gas in their respective states. All the governors just love the environment.
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10:53 AM on 11/10/2011
Hmmm, with that much money on the line, maybe they could, you know, put in some public transportation or at least buy plug-in hybrids and install solar panel charging stations. Gas to Gas is an extremely wasteful, destructive lateral move.
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Malcolm Hensley
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08:07 PM on 11/10/2011
I don't know it might help make public transportation affordable. A therm of natural gas is just slightly less than a gallon of gasoline and goes for about $0.45. Think of cites where buses instead of using diesel at ~ $4.00/gallon moving to something that cost about $0.50/gallon.

I personally drive a used CNG Honda and it cost me about $0.95/gallon equivalent to fill up at home. That comes out to $0.025/mile fuel cost. My neighbor's SUV is over $0.25/mile!
09:11 PM on 11/10/2011
$4 natural gas (more than what it is right now) on an energy equivalent basis, translates into $24 oil (it's about $90 right now). It makes economic and energy security sense
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Robert Lee Harrington
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08:52 AM on 11/10/2011
LA County replaced their fleet of over 2,000 diesel buses with Natural Gas 15 years ago. They run great and don't produce a clowd of soot behind them. There is no reason we all can't drive Natural gas cars and trucks. Tell Obama to start buying natural gas federal vehicles at:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
12:47 AM on 11/11/2011
great one
07:58 AM on 11/10/2011
In the 23-years, I spent with a State Inspector, she ALWAYS drove huge Dodge Ram 4-wheel drive vehicles. NEVER; a reasonable means of transportation!
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julieintx
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11:12 AM on 11/10/2011
You're saying there's never any need of pickup trucks? You've never worked with your hands, have you? You are not familiar with agriculture, construction, landscaping work apparently.
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bgofca
02:20 AM on 11/10/2011
a switch to electric would be much better.
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Malcolm Hensley
Last of the Reagan Republicans
08:08 PM on 11/10/2011
with 50% of all electricity made from coal and the limited range I just don't follow your logic!
09:13 PM on 11/10/2011
Not to mention the huge incremental cost