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NBA Lockout: Negotiations Continue Between Players, Owners

Nba Lockout

BRIAN MAHONEY   11/10/11 11:49 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK — The NBA and its players are hitting pause in their negotiations as the union considers the league's latest revised offer.

The league offered a revised offer after nearly 11 hours of bargaining Thursday. It's based on the possibility of a 72-game season, starting Dec. 15.

But union president Derek Fisher said it doesn't address all the necessary system issues that are important to the players.

"It does not meet us entirely on the system issues that we felt were extremely important to try and close this thing out, and so at this point we've decided to end things for now, take a step back," Fisher said. "We'll go back as an executive committee, as a board, confer with our player reps and additional players over the next few days. Then we'll make decisions about what our next steps will be at that point."

NBA Commissioner David Stern said there's really nothing left to negotiate.

"There comes a time when you have to be through negotiating, and we are," he said. "This is the best attempt by the labor relations committee and therefore the NBA to address the concerns that the players expressed coming out of their meeting of the player representatives."

Hunter said they would try to bring the player representatives to New York by Monday or Tuesday to decide what the next step is, and whether the current offer is acceptable.

"It's not the greatest proposal in the world, but I have an obligation to at least present it to our membership and so that's what we're going to do," Hunter said.

Stern said he didn't expect the players to like every aspect of the revised proposal, saying there were many teams, too, who don't like aspects of the revised offer.

Regardless, it will be better for players than the one that Stern had waiting: a 53-47 split of revenues in the owners' favor, a flex cap with a hard ceiling, and salary rollbacks.

Stern would not speculate on how players would react to the deal.

"I would not presume to project or predict what the union would do," he said. "I can hope and my hope is the events of next week will lead us to a 72-game schedule starting on Dec. 15."

Beyond the salary cap system issues that divide the sides, union executive director Billy Hunter said there were six pages of what he called ancillary items, such as the draft age and the commissioner's disciplinary rights, that still must be addressed before a deal.

"There's not enough progress to get a deal done," Fisher said. "That's the disappointing part. We want to get back on the court."

The union had nearly its entire executive committee in attendance, with Fisher and Hunter joined by players Chris Paul, Maurice Evans, Roger Mason Jr., Keyon Dooling, Theo Ratliff, Etan Thomas, Matt Bonner; attorneys Jeffrey Kessler and Ron Klempner, and economist Kevin Murphy. Management stuck with the same small group as Wednesday: Stern, Deputy Commissioner Adam Silver, Spurs owner Peter Holt, the chairman of the labor relations committee, and attorneys Rick Buchanan and Dan Rube.

"It's been a long haul," Hunter said.

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NEW YORK — The NBA and its players are hitting pause in their negotiations as the union considers the league's latest revised offer. The league offered a revised offer after nearly 11 hours of ...
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jinsin
Always Question Authority!
08:37 PM on 11/13/2011
There's not enough progress to get a deal done," Fisher said. "That's the disappointing part. We want to get back on the court."
Apparently Fisher and the boys don’t love the sport enough to be satisfied with the millions they make per season for dribbling, passing, shooting the ball, bad sportsmanship and posturing.
One can get all that for a fraction of the cost by watching College BB or for that matter High School BB. Both these sources come complete with all the emotional upheaval and euphoria found in professional games with the added bonus of supporting our learning institutions.
I am so sick of listening to whiney millionaires and stingy billionaires try and make their case of how underpaid and disrespected they are, how unfairly they have been treated. Talk about being out of touch with reality.
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Fred Ricardo
The white hat, Truth, Justices and theAmerican way
11:56 AM on 11/13/2011
Lock out the greedy millionaire players, hire the best college players at half the price and cut ticket prices. At the rate basketball is going no one will care.
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ApprxAm
Make 12/12/12 National Democrat Unregister Day
09:33 AM on 11/11/2011
I'm in complete shock that the players have lasted this long. It's an impressive display of discipline that they simply didn't have during the last "lockout".

Stand your ground fellas...then go blow it all by the time you're five years removed from the game.
08:06 AM on 11/11/2011
tired of the "we're mistreated" and "its just like being on a plantation" crap. cancel the whole season. let who ever wants to "work" in europe go there and stay there. sick of spoiled, greedy whiners anywhere on my tv.
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ApprxAm
Make 12/12/12 National Democrat Unregister Day
09:32 AM on 11/11/2011
who's whining?

change your channel
12:10 PM on 11/12/2011
the NBA players are whining. you need to tune into a channel.

to repeat, cancel the whole season and let the spoiled, whining brats go elsewhere to complain. long time season ticket holder and am done with them. period.
Boomerwoman
Momma said there'd be days like this
11:33 PM on 11/10/2011
Don't miss BB at all!
11:20 PM on 11/10/2011
why are they ALL Black ?
11:26 PM on 11/10/2011
why do you think they're all black?
12:03 AM on 11/11/2011
I DON'T KNOW ? TELL ME....AND WHILE YOU ARE TAKING UP FOR THEM TELL THE TO STOP GIVING WHITE WOMEN ALL THEIR MONEY!
11:18 PM on 11/10/2011
it's more than you had in the ghetto ! you have enough to give to the white women ! PLAY BALL AZ'S....
11:15 PM on 11/10/2011
JOE just hired a criminal defense attorney !
11:13 PM on 11/10/2011
NEGOTIATE THIS ! ingrates !
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
01:06 PM on 11/10/2011
Greedy player verses greedy owners. They better smarten up before everyone discovers that life goes on without them playing a game.
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Tater Salad
How can I be a quitter when haters dont stop?
10:35 AM on 11/10/2011
Have to say, it shows progress and a willingness on both sides to keep meeting and trying to find resolution to end the lockout.
10:27 AM on 11/10/2011
I am really starting to dislike the players in the NBA. 50/50 sounds like a fair deal to me. I mean this is not rocket science and you get paid a helluva lot of money to dribble a basketball. We have individuals who save lives, protect and serve, educate, etc who deserve your paycheck. Take the deal and sit down and shut up. The more they hold out the more I just want basketball to go away for good.
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onlyThis
All I Am is You
01:26 PM on 11/10/2011
My work associates and I used to go to a Bucks game once a year as an office outing, no more.
01:59 PM on 11/10/2011
You are assuming that there are as many players that there are Owners. (Not)
Your are also assuming that all players are paid millions of dollars. (Not)
If all players were making as much as Kobe or LeBron, everything would be great. Unfortunately the majority of the players earn minimum wage.
02:25 PM on 11/10/2011
For the job that they perform I think minimum wage is a fair salary!
08:07 AM on 11/11/2011
dude, they earn the LEAGUE MINIMUM which is NOT minimum wage (of what $7/hour). get a total new grip. LEAGUE MINIMUM is milllions of dollars! for spoiled kids to dribble a ball and, now,complain.