Erik Spalding And Cole Evans, Bullets2Bandages: Bomb Tech Veterans Start A Bullet Jewelry Business

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First Posted: 11/11/11 10:32 AM ET Updated: 11/11/11 03:37 PM ET

As Naval Explosive Ordnance Disposal officers -- more commonly referred to as bomb technicians -- Erik Spalding and Cole Evans were prepared to enter into high-risk situations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia and South America. Now as veterans transitioning back into civilian life in the United States, they are taking on a different type of risk: In June, they started Bullets2Bandages, a fashion jewelry business that donates 15 percent of profits to veterans' nonprofits, despite having no experience in fashion or entrepreneurship and no funding.

"When we were getting out of military service, we both knew we weren't interested in taking what's considered the traditional path for a former Naval officer, which is to get an MBA and go to work in corporate America," Spalding says.

Instead, Spalding and Evans, who met while at the Naval Academy, were eager to start their own business. They began by developing software apps before a random event inspired them to switch gears and start making jewelry out of bullets. Since then, their business has grown so quickly, they decided to launch a streetwear line of T-shirts and caps this Veterans Day. As Spalding sees it, the San Diego-based startup has changed their lives and the lives of U.S. veterans transitioning back to civilian life.

Did you ever think while in the military that one day you'd own a fashion jewelry business?

No. I was a weapons and systems engineer in the Naval Academy and Cole had a background in mathematics. So, in a way, our background is the antithesis of fashion.

How did you get the idea for Bullets2Bandages?

When we first got out of the military, we were roommates in San Diego. We had a lot of equipment and were cleaning our stuff out. Cole was cleaning out his old body armor -- his bulletproof vest -- and a bullet literally fell out and rolled onto my dog tag. It looked kind of cool lying there, so I took a picture of it and put it on Facebook. And everybody was like, "Really cool necklace. Where do I get one?"

So what exactly is "bullet jewelry"?

We take brass casings from 9mm or 5.56mm ammunition, and we reload them with bullet tips but we don't put any explosives in them, put them through a finishing process, then match them with dog tags. All of our jewelry uses actual bullet components -- it's not something manufactured in China. We're repurposing something that symbolizes destruction and war to be something that symbolizes healing through our donations to nonprofits. One thing we realized through our own experiences is the transition from the military to civilian life is sometimes very difficult. Everyone has their individual barriers. And we saw a great opportunity to leverage our brand and our company to become symbolic of a transitional process.

How did you start the business? Did you take advantage of any of the opportunities or programs available to veterans?

That's where we realized there are a lot of limitations or barriers. I've been told there are a lot of programs out there for veterans. We actually went to the White House in July and talked to the director of the SBA. It was an open forum Q&A type of thing and we said, "We can't get a loan because we haven't been in business for two years." And a lot of times the loan officers would say, "You have no experience in fashion." They were talking about how the SBA has Patriot Express Loans, but the couple banks we approached said no and were pushing us in the direction of getting a credit card. So we embody the concept of the lean startup -- a lot of the stuff that companies outsource, we do ourselves. I taught myself how to use Photoshop so I could do graphic design work and learned a lot of Internet-based stuff so I could manage the website. Having limited capital forced us to constantly evaluate how to maximize efficiency, and that's a good thing. That's how we started and that's still how we work. We don't waste a lot of money on unnecessary things. We reevaluate what we we're doing at a very fast pace, which is why we've become successful fairly quickly.

Why did you not want to go the corporate route after the military?

A lot of it had to do with creativity, on my part. Obviously, the military is structured in a way that there are a lot of limitations on what you can do, how much freedom you have. I didn't want to have limitations on my creativity. Also, I wanted to build my own dream, not someone else's. I like being able to come up with an idea and put it into action. Obviously, there's risk involved. But I like the process of creation.

But, in some ways, isn't entrepreneurship a natural fit for military veterans? What are some of the skills and training you learned in the military that help you with your business?

Definitely leadership. Leadership is something that's engrained from day one at the Naval Academy. I was always put in charge of other people and had to make decisions. Leadership is about being able to process and use your assets to make good decisions. Even if you're not the most knowledgable person, you're still ultimately making the decisions. That skill transfers into business 100 percent. You're bringing together the people working with you to put them on a path toward some common goal.

The other skill is adaptability. In the military, your tasks vary greatly, whether it's disposal operations like blowing up old ammunition dumps or teaching kids about bomb awareness. In the military, they basically give you an objective but don't tell you how to do it, so it requires you to figure out what resources you need and to learn new skills to do what you need to do. In business, that's a skill you use every day. For example, if you talk to Cole about software applications, it sounds like he's been doing it his whole life, but a year ago he didn't even have have a smartphone. We're always going into new territories, which forces us to be adaptable and constantly grow. It's pretty amazing how being in the military has developed those skill sets.

Did working in such a risky part of the military prepare you for entrepreneurship?

It's definitely a different type of risk. In the military, it's a a physical risk. I don't face a physical risk. Now I face a financial risk, which is just as stressful sometimes. And there are ramification to your actions. One of the things that's big with us in the military is calculated risk. In "The Hurt Locker," the guy did some really stupid stuff. I didn't even watch the whole thing. He took a lot of unnecessary risks, whereas EOD techs are taught early on to make calculated risk. That's what we call threat assessment -- the mentality of taking risks but being able to add in a bit of calculation. You make decisions that are risky, but mitigate some of the risks through intelligence. That applies today. We're wiling to take larger risks than, say, some of our friends, but we always calculate risk versus reward. You learn to do that pretty quickly in the military for physical reasons. Now we're learning how to do that in business.

Did you know right away that you wanted your business to be able to help veterans?

We envisioned the company and brand being symbolic of transition for veterans, helping to bring awareness to some of these issues. Initially we were working with the Travis Munion Foundation, which helps families of fallen soldiers and veterans overcome barriers through grief counseling. We're going to rotate every two months, so the one we're working with for November and December is Veterans Village of San Diego, which helps veterans overcome drug and alcohol dependency issues and homelessness. They take people from the streets and take them through a program, and at the end of the program, they move them into a house and get them job placement. They're finding the issues that today's veterans face are not the same issues Vietnam-era veterans suffered with -- it's about more economic issues, because they can't find a job when they get out and end up homeless. Our company is about helping veterans overcome barriers to alow them to continue on in life. Fifteen percent of our profits are donated to these nonprofits, and we leverage social media and help them with their marketing and to create awareness.

Why is social responsibility so important to your company?

I wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for the country I grew up in. I've traveled all over the world and the unique thing about America is the opportunities are endless. But with that comes responsibility for those who are successful to reinvest in our country. I wanted to do something for domestic nonprofits. For us to continue to be in this country, we need to reinvest in our country. We were leaders in the military, now we want to be leaders in the civilian sector and create awareness for veterans. It's kind of hard sometimes when you get out. Some people might be physically disabled, and some might have mental issues. A third of all homeless people are veterans. Some are sleeping on the streets tonight and that just doesn't sit right with me. There are all these different challenges of changing into civilian life, and we just want to help along that process and be a leader for that in business.

Entrepreneur Spotlight

Names: Erik Spalding and Cole Evans
Company: Bullets2Bandages
Ages: 29, 30
Location: San Diego
Founded: 2011
Employees: Zero
Revenue: Undisclosed
Website: www.bullets2bandages.org

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Description: The Bullet Bracelet embodies the true meaning of repurposing. It constructed using once fired 9mm bullet casings, which are reloaded with a full metal jacket projectiles, and linked together using military grade machine gun linkage. "Ironically," Spalding says, "the machine gun linkage is a pretty comfortable linking material."
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As Naval Explosive Ordnance Disposal officers -- more commonly referred to as bomb technicians -- Erik Spalding and Cole Evans were prepared to enter into high-risk situations in the Middle East, Sout...
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11:40 AM on 12/04/2011
i like it good.
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moutonnoir
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11:16 AM on 11/23/2011
i like them.. i really, really dislike their 'jewelry'..
02:26 AM on 11/23/2011
I was in the Marines's 35 years ago just to let you guys know we had that long ago back in the 70's and 80's necklace and bracelet nothing real new! Plt. Sgt.. 77-85
muckatuck
yeah, well, you know, thats just like uh, your opi
01:14 AM on 11/23/2011
can see this going over well with the 'i have expendable income and i wanna be part of the flavor of the month' club.the same people who wear those rubber bracelets, their cause of choice color coordinated with their outfit.i'll wear the tags i was issued in basic, spend the cash i woulda spent on trinkets buying a vet a beer.

Semper Fi
mscellanus
U may kiss it!
12:12 AM on 11/23/2011
Kudos to them! I rather see the bullets used for jewelry than for killing others.
10:54 PM on 11/22/2011
Ten to one TSA will confiscate it.,
08:28 PM on 11/22/2011
Just don't wear your "bling" to Mexico.
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06:36 PM on 11/22/2011
Well, first of all, the jewelry is not bullets. Bullets are what's fired out of a weapon. What you've got here are full up cartridges. Either way, I'm glad that someone's putting them to a better use than what they were originally made for. Sort of remin ds me of the jewelry craze of the 60s when they were making all sorts of necklaces and bracelets from the chrome parts of model car kits.
10:44 PM on 11/22/2011
So what exactly is "bullet jewelry"?

We take brass casings from 9mm or 5.56mm ammunition, and we reload them with bullet tips but we don't put any explosives in them,
& no cartridges have explosives in them either. It is called smokeless powder, and when put into a cartridge such as a 9mm or 5,56mm nato round, it is not explosive, it is a very fast burning powder. Please get this stuff correct, there`s already to many people out there now that don`t have a clue.
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06:22 PM on 11/23/2011
Well, what does your comment have to do with mine? I never said anything about explosive charges in my comment. Never even claimed that there was powder in them at all. Possibly you mistook my " full up cartridges" as meaning that I was claiming that the rounds were loaded. If so, my apologies for not making it clear that I believe that the rounds used were just the bullets and cartridge casings without any kind of powder charge in them.
06:34 PM on 11/22/2011
Good Luck.
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05:20 PM on 11/22/2011
That jewelry is THE BOMB! Yeah I know, I know. But it was simply too easy for the picking. Low hanging fruit dontcha know!
05:21 PM on 11/12/2011
Those two Naval officers aren't much different from this nonmilitary person. Even though I have no experience with operating a hotel or apartment or other types of commercial properties, I was willing to take the financial risk and purchase a whole bunch of them. As for not going the corporate route, I say good for them. Corporate America needs to be overhauled.
11:56 AM on 11/12/2011
Good Luck and may the good Lord be with you....
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04:34 AM on 11/12/2011
What a great idea, Good Luck and Godspeed to both of you. I know what your going through.
Blindbatkites, IED locators and UAV's. my problem is DARPA's CEO is dirty. Contracts to family and friends. Oh yes. The other problem is this adminsitration does not want things that save lives.
little flying bugs and mental trips to Mars. Just ask Regina Dugan, she was part of a elite class that has traveled to mars. Coast to Coast AM, 540. Mine is alot cheaper to build and it works. uphill all the way.
12:26 AM on 11/12/2011
wow how gay are these two ?
01:19 AM on 11/12/2011
Really. That's what you got out of the article?
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03:05 AM on 11/12/2011
Yeah!
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10:33 PM on 11/11/2011
I wish these guys well, but I've been seeing stuff like this at gun shows for years.