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U.S. Works To Reduce Contagion Threat From Euro Debt Crisis

Ben Bernanke

First Posted: 11/14/11 08:40 AM ET Updated: 11/14/11 08:40 AM ET

(David Lawder and Glenn Somerville) - The United States is ramping up attempts to safeguard its financial system from a worsening of Europe's debt crisis, joining nations in Asia, Latin America and elsewhere in trying to build firewalls.

U.S. policymakers, alarmed by the political upheaval in Italy and Greece, are digging deep into the books of American banks to find out how exposed they might be to euro zone creditors and the plunging value of sovereign debt.

Officials were stung by the implosion of Wall Street firm MF Global, which gambled and lost on European debt, and they are working on contingency plans for a worst-case scenario should another financial firm crumble.

A senior U.S. Treasury official said regulators are contacting big U.S. financial institutions to make sure they are scaling back exposure to Europe and are ready for a potential worsening of the crisis.

The Financial Stability Oversight Council, an inter-agency group set up after the 2007-2009 financial crisis, was trying to identify specific firms that could be hit by financial turbulence and then sort out ways that each one can fortify its balance sheet, the Treasury official said.

While the Treasury has been at pains to say that direct U.S. bank exposure to European countries now receiving bailout aid -- Greece, Ireland and Portugal -- is moderate, once the debt of Italy and Spain, plus credit default swaps, and U.S. bank indirect exposure through European banks are added, the potential sum could exceed $4 trillion.

"As such, the potential for contagion to the U.S. financial system is not small," the Institute of International Finance, the lobby group for major international banks, said last week.

Hedging and netting would limit the true size of any losses, so the $4 trillion figure would be the outer edge of U.S. total exposure.

U.S. banks had about $180.9 billion of debt from Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain on their books at the end of June, based on Bank for International Settlements data. Italy accounted for the largest chunk, more than $250 billion. Guarantees and credit derivatives added another $586.6 billion, bringing the total to $767.5 billion, the IIF said.

There is a secondary level of exposure that is potentially more worrying -- through international banks lending to each other. Here the greatest risk stems from Italy and France. International bank claims on Italy total $939 billion, and French banks account for well over one-third of that, BIS data show. French banks also rely heavily on short-term loans from other international banks for their daily operations. If Italian debt slumps even further, causing deeper losses for French banks, international banks could stop lending to France. The losses would ripple through the whole global financial system.

The United States learned the hard way how these indirect financial linkages work when imploding credit default swaps forced it into a $180 billion bailout of insurance giant American International Group in 2008 to prevent further contagion in the banking sector.

The danger is that a steep drop in sovereign bond prices prompts similar margin calls at banks that could snowball into a seizing up of credit, the lifeblood of an economy.

European banks hold some $3.5 trillion of euro-zone sovereign bonds and U.S. banks have significant direct exposure to their European peers, the IIF said in a report.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke was frank last week about the risks: "It is not something that we would be insulated from ... I don't think we would be able to escape the consequences of a blow-up in Europe."

JPMorgan Chase, the largest U.S. bank, holds about $44 billion in debt of troubled euro-zone nations -- Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy -- and Citigroup, the third largest, has $24.3 billion, said Dick Bove, a banking analyst at Rochdale Securities in September.

MF Global's fall gave a taste of how contagion can rip through the financial system. Brokerage Jeffries Group Inc's shares plunged on concerns about exposure to Europe. The shares stabilized after the firm clarified its position.

CHECKING THE BOOKS

Fed Vice-Chair Janet Yellen said a new round of stress tests of U.S. banks will start in "a couple of weeks" to check their resilience should the value of their assets plunge.

"In light of such international linkages, further intensification of financial disruptions in Europe could lead to a deterioration of financial conditions in the United States," she told a Chicago audience on Friday.

"We are monitoring European developments very closely, and we will continue to do all that we can to mitigate the consequence of any adverse developments abroad on the U.S. financial system," she added.

Stress tests could lead to some banks raising more capital. The Financial Industry Regulatory Authority told MF Global to boost its net capital in August following concerns about its exposure to European debt.

A Fed survey last week showed that about half the top U.S. banks had loans to European banks or were extending credit to them. If European banks ran into trouble and were unable to repay their loans, U.S. banks could face sizable losses.

The chief economist for ratings agency Moody's Investors Service, Steven Hess, said last week that so far there were no signs that banks were unwilling to lend to one another.

"If ... the crisis becomes much worse and includes Italy for example -- and this is all if, not a forecast from the part of Moody's -- if that were to happen, you could see the financial system in the United States ... suddenly suffer problems," Hess told the Reuters Washington Summit.

Should that happen, the United States can turn to tools it honed during the financial crisis of 2007-2009, said Nellie Liang, director of the Fed's Office of Financial Stability Policy and Research.

"We were creative that time, and we could be creative this time," Liang said. "But I think, just step back, the first line of defense is doing proper risk management and supervision."

U.S. money market funds, for example, already have pulled back significantly from European debt exposure under the watchful eye of regulators, she said. Their holdings of European paper totaled $384 billion in September, down 30 percent from June when alarms were first rung, the IIF said.

Regulatory reforms have given the Fed much more authority to watch over and investigate financial firms considered so large that they could disrupt the whole financial system.

IMPATIENCE

U.S. impatience over Europe's inability to quash the spreading risk is palpable. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner tried again on Thursday to press for more decisive action.

"It is crucial that Europe move quickly to put in place a strong plan to restore financial stability," Geithner said in Hawaii, echoing the views of other finance ministers attending the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.

"It is not being dealt with forcefully," Philippines Finance Minister Cesar Purisima said at the summit.

APEC finance ministers agreed to shore up their economies to protect against any damage and underpin growth.

These steps might include imposing capital controls to prevent a rapid outflow of cash that would destabilize an economy, lowering interest rates or fiscal stimulus.

For the Philippines, Purisima told Reuters he is prepared: "We have a lot of fiscal space if we need it ... Whatever is necessary, we will be doing, our interest rates are low." --

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Realist2011
beware false profits....
07:29 PM on 11/16/2011
No Advantage
“If you don’t have to, generally people don’t see the advantage to doing it,†said Richard Lindsey, a former director of market regulation at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission who worked at Bear Stearns Cos. from 1999 through 2006. “On the other hand, if there were a run on Goldman Sachs tomorrow because the rumor was that they had exposure to Greece, you’d see them produce those numbers.†"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/u-s-stock-index-futures-slide-as-european-sovereign-debt-concern-deepens.html

Notice the article says at more than 5 trillion dollars in derivatives. So, we're already more than double Ben's projected "exposure" and we have no clue if the 5 trillion is even close to the true amount. Hold on. It's going to be a bumpy ride.
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Realist2011
beware false profits....
07:29 PM on 11/16/2011
A few days ago I commented on this article and indicated that I had a "problem" with Ben's numbers. I found some additional information. A Bloomberg article (link is below) regarding the potential liabilities of US banks scares the heck out of me. Here's the excerpt that concerns me.

"JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), among the world’s biggest traders of credit derivatives, disclosed to shareholders that they have sold protection on more than $5 trillion of debt globally. Just don’t ask them how much of that was issued by Greece, Italy, Ireland, Portugal and Spain, known as the GIIPS.

As concerns mount that those countries may not be creditworthy, investors are being kept in the dark about how much risk U.S. banks face from a default. Firms including Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan don’t provide a full picture of potential losses and gains in such a scenario, giving only net numbers or excluding some derivatives altogether.

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lensman3
02:26 PM on 11/15/2011
Another case of Too Big To Fail. Let them fail. The model in the past (in the US) if a bank fails, over the weekend another bank takes over. They have always tried for the 2 days. If it takes a week to cut over a bank, so be it. Let the bank(s) fail.
03:58 AM on 11/15/2011
In other words Obama is working hard to help Wall Street...again!
07:37 PM on 11/28/2011
huh?
12:18 AM on 11/15/2011
Why doesn't the US just admit that we're causing the financial collapses all over the world. We have our hand in almost every nation and the ones that gave into Democracy (for money) were getting plenty from the US. However, the well has run dry and everybody's paying for it. Bush probably forgot about all the countries that depend on US aid when he implemented his Bush tax cuts.
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kemcha
Advocate for the 99ers
09:23 PM on 11/14/2011
Please. It don't matter what they do. Even if we have no money invested in Europe, our economy is still going to get hit.

AT LAST AND I HOPE OUR ECONOMY CRASHES.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
04:37 PM on 11/14/2011
.....Guarantees and credit derivatives added another $586.6 billion, bringing the total to $767.5 billion, the IIF said.
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Similar to the amount they took the taxpayers for via TARP.

Odd that they didn't want to invest in America - did the GOPTP's determination to wreck the economy so Pres. Obama would be a one-term scare them off investing here?
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jwalter
The State is a gang of thieves writ large.
03:07 PM on 11/14/2011
We can limit our exposure by abolishing the Federal Reserve and it's bailouts of the banks.
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Pretrib
what goes around comes around
02:57 PM on 11/14/2011
"The United States is ramping up attempts to safeguard its financial system from a worsening of Europe's debt crisis"

Yeah, we are off to a great start. Almost $15 trillion in debt and Obama wants to spend more. Stop the spending orgy! Stop the quantitative easing! Fire the Keynesians! We have a spending problem that no amount a revenue (taxation) can address.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:11 PM on 11/14/2011
Some US citizens believe that there is no limit to the amount of US Dollars that the US government can take from the US taxpayers and/plus continuously borrow more US Dollars back from wealth producing foreigners in the foreign industrial nations and then spend that money to create all sorts of additional government bureaucratic jobs for the unemployed, more government contracts to construct all sorts of “Pork Barrel†infrastructure projects, and increase government benefits for those US citizens whom the politicians think will vote for those same politicians that pass laws to give those citizens more and more "free" money.

The USA will become a third world nation of mostly unemployed starving beggars after the US government deficit spending destroys the purchasing power of the US dollar.

US citizens should demand RE-INDUSTRIALIZATION of the USA because that will create a bigger economic pie, create more jobs for US citizens, and create more NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA that could be confiscated by the governments at various levels as taxation to pay for our ever increasing government expenses such as more infrastructure, more teachers, more firefighters, and maybe to also PAY OFF SOME OR ALL OF THE US NATIONAL DEBT that we are expecting our children to pay.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
04:40 PM on 11/14/2011
The Bush tax cuts were free money - you took them and didn't complain then, so why now?
03:53 PM on 11/14/2011
very great one
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Realist2011
beware false profits....
02:04 PM on 11/14/2011
Ben's continued obfuscation is maddening. They talk of "direct" and "indirect" exposure, as if somehow one represents less potential damage. 4 trillion? You have to be joking Ben. Ben, Goldman Sachs helped Greece hide part of their debt by utilizing a complex "swaps" agreement. And you want us to believe that this feindish behavior has somehow been mitigated to reduce America's exposure. We're in it up to our eyeballs, and the numbers will never be published. Derivatives are not regulated. They should have been regulated out of existence, but absent that, meaningful regulation and transparency was vitally important. How important? Unfortunately, I think we're all about to find out.

The truly bizarre aspect of all of this is that when the first "failure" occurs, and all these entities start demanding payments on their "insurance" (Credit Default Swaps) for their losses, they'll quickly learn that it was all "vapor". There were never any reserves held in the event of actual losses, so everybody's "insuring" everybody else, and there's nothing to pay them off with.

If OUR government even thinks about trying to support these financial institutions behavior with our tax dollars, OWS will look Boy Scout jamborees. Heaven help us.

Read this Bloomberg story:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-09-07/greek-debt-deals-hidden-from-eu-probed-as-400-yield-gap-shows-bond-doubts.html
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:12 PM on 11/14/2011
I sure hope that Ben has sold all ot the European Issued bonds that are in the US treasury, or the US taxpayers will take a bath, not just a haircut.
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Realist2011
beware false profits....
03:41 PM on 11/14/2011
Not to worry. Ben has bought Credit Default Swaps from Golden-Sacks, I mean Goldman-Sachs so he can guarantee absolutely, without any doubt, that we can all feel completely secure. In his words..."Hey, what could go wrong?"
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Realist2011
beware false profits....
01:32 PM on 11/14/2011
Simply amazing. The Fed is attempting to use "hedging" as a means of saving our financial system from, wait...wait...you got, "hedging" (derivatives). That's right folks, derivatives are both the problem and the answer. Here's a quote from Warren Buffet at a Bershire Hathaway meeting regarding derivatives.

"In my view,
derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction, carrying dangers that, while now latent, are
potentially lethal."

Mr. Buffet, your statement in 2002 was prophetic. Very soon, it will become reality.

The link to the full article.
http://www.fintools.com/docs/Warren%20Buffet%20on%20Derivatives.pdf

Read this. Follow him carefully and you will see the exact problems that he foresaw, is what we have been dealing with, and that will wipe out the EU, and eventually I believe, America's finances. These derivatives have "tied" world economies together with detonation cord.

The financial health of the entire world is in jeapardy because, primarily, the damage that has been, and will continue to be done by derivatives. If the Fed thinks, and apparently it does, that the very problem IS the solution, then quite frankly, they've lost their collective minds.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
02:17 PM on 11/14/2011
The USA should evdeavour to again become a NET CREATOR of NATIONAL WEALTH for the USA and and eliminate the negative net trade balance is causing the USA to be a NET CONSUMER (DESTROYER) of the existing NATIONAL WEALTH in the USA.
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darkmark
religion, the veil of evil.
12:38 PM on 11/14/2011
is there any way not to be a participant in these games? i think a much stronger public, as in government, sector would calm the waters a lot, as in quality public education, preschool through post grad, and single payer/medicare for all. just those two would create much needed support for improved quality of living for the average citizen and increase the number of jobs that wouldn't be subject to credit default swaps and derivatives exploding the illusion of strong financial institutions. of course that would mean the money for single payer/medicare for all and public education would have to be secure so taxes would have to be sufficient to cover them but who would object to that?
12:33 PM on 11/14/2011
Will Uncle Ben send another few trillion to European banks again? The one peek we had of the 2007 crisis showed tens of billions being borrowed by Societe General, UBS and Deutsche Bank. I bet borrowing from Uncle Ben is much cheaper then going to the European Central Bank (ECB) or each other.. watch the Euribor rates for interbank lending.
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GuyCybershy
12:13 PM on 11/14/2011
The World Is Drowning in Debt, And Europe Laces On Concrete Boots

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-world-drowning-debt-and-europe-laces-concrete-boots
ChangeAgent007
Changing the world everyday
11:52 AM on 11/14/2011
What they aren't telling you is how the American Taxpayer is going to be affected should Europe implode.

http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-chicago/us-could-be-looking-at-a-recession-if-europe-fails

Taxpayers are on the hook again.
iam99
To know what you prefer...
12:20 PM on 11/14/2011
Yes, the taxpayers, not nearly at all the corporations and the top .01% that:
1. had the lions share of responsibility in creating the financial storms, and
2. by their efforts bought and corrupted our government, and
3. pay the absolute least, or nothing, to support the systems in the U.S.
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darkmark
religion, the veil of evil.
01:03 PM on 11/14/2011
so i popped up the cartoon "banks rescue plan" and the add that popped up with it was for a bank.
ChangeAgent007
Changing the world everyday
02:13 PM on 11/14/2011
lol!!!! Funny.....